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"If you simply say to a person, 'here's what I expect of you,' and leave him the hell alone, they'll probably give you a much better job than you could have dreamed of if you'd have written very tight specifications -- because that's what they do for a living."
In his over four-hour interview, Charles "Cappy" Cappleman (1926-2021) discusses his tenure at the NBC Summer Radio-TV Institute at Northwestern University, and his interactions with Chicago television greats including Dave Garroway, Bob Banner, and the cast of Kukla, Fran and Ollie. He recalls his early years at CBS in the mid-1950s, working as a floor manager on programs including The Judy Garland Show, The Red Skelton Show, and Climax! Next, Cappleman talks about becoming manager of stage operations and his involvement in programs such as Playhouse 90, Studio One, Person to Person, and The Ed Sullivan Show. He also touches on his work with the production electronics department, and his promotion to director of program production services, where he worked on programs including The Carol Burnett Show and All in the Family. Finally, he discusses his role as the general manager of Television City. Sam Denoff conducted the interview on December 13, 2000 at CBS Television City in Hollywood, CA.
Highlights

Charles Cappleman on various people he worked with as a stage manager, including Judy Garland and Jack Benny

Charles Cappleman on celebrating the 33rd Anniversary of The Carol Burnett Show on stage 33 at Television City with the cast of the show

Charles Cappleman on being hired by Bob Daly to become general manager of Television City

Charles Cappleman on then-current projects, including implementing HDTV, and the emergence of new media

Charles Cappleman on the advent and development of video tape, and how it impacted production

Charles Cappleman on his involvement with NASA and covering the space program
Full Interview
Chapter 1
On his early life and influences; on the first time he saw television, and on his early experience with it
On his experiences as a disc jockey; on attending Northwestern University, and on witness the birth of television while interning at the NBC affiliate in Chicago; on the technology at the dawn of television
Chapter 2
On playing "race records" as a disc jockey; on working with Kukla, Fran & Ollie creator Burr Tillstrom at NBC in Chicago; on working with Studs Terkel on Studs' Place, and on Chicago in the 1950s
On his experiences during the Korean War; on becoming a stage manager at CBS; on stage managing for My Friend Irma and The Red Skelton Show
On how CBS in Los Angeles was structured in the 1950s; on working for William S. Paley and Frank Stanton; on his involvement with NASA and covering the space program
Chapter 3
On his duties as a stage manager, and on working on Climax! and Playhouse 90; on working with Judy Garland on Ford Star Jubilee, and on working with big stars; on stage managing for the series Meet Millie and My Favorite Husband
On stage managing That's My Boy! and The Jo Stafford Show; on the stages at CBS Television City; on celebrating the 33rd Anniversary of The Carol Burnett Show on stage 33 at Television City with the cast of the show
On various people he worked with as a stage manager, including Judy Garland and Jack Benny
Chapter 4
On becoming manager of stage operations at CBS; on working on Edward R. Murrow's Person to Person; on the production challenges of Playhouse 90, and on working with John Frankenheimer and Fred Coe
On casting director Ethel Winant and producer David Susskind; on the directors and writers of Playhouse 90; on Studio One, and on Herbert Brodkin and Worthington Miner
On The Ed Sullivan Show; on the Hollywood Blacklist; on his duties as assistant director of design and production operations at CBS in the 1960s
Chapter 5
On managing the production electronics department at CBS; on the technological innovation he oversaw at CBS as manager of production electronics; on attending the Don Martin School of Broadcasting
On the role CBS executives like Frank Stanton played in technological innovation while he was manager of production electronic, and on its impact on news gathering; on how new technology impacted the CBS coverage of political conventions
On his duties as director of special projects at CBS; on his duties as director of program production services at CBS; on The Carol Burnett Show
Chapter 6
On working with Joe Hamilton and Dave Powers on The Carol Burnett Show; on All in the Family produced by Norman Lear, and on director Paul Bogart; on the cast of All in the Family, including Jean Stapleton, Carroll O'Connor, and Rob Reiner
On Captain & Tennille ; on CBS Playhouse; on being hired by Bob Daly to become general manager of Television City
On the various stages at CBS Television City; on the technological innovations that emanated from CBS Television City; on the advent of video tape, and the impact it had on production
Chapter 7
On where CBS produced their shows before Television City; on the advent and development of video tape, and how it impacted production; on CBS Television City converting to color broadcasting
On attending a yearly CBS affiliates conference; on how the distribution of shows to the CBS affiliates changed over time
On William S. Paley and Frank Stanton; on James T. Aburey and Robert D. Wood; on how Frank Stanton leaving CBS impacted the network
On William S. Paley's management style; on Laurence A. Tisch
Chapter 8
On the consolidation of Viacom, CBS, and Infinity, and on Mel Karmazin and Leslie Moonves; on how Television City has changed over the years; on implementing HDTV at CBS
On the emergence of new media; on his advice to aspiring television executives; on his involvement in various charities
On his mentors and career achievements and regrets; on how he would like to be remembered; on various people he worked with in his career
Chapter 9
On various people with whom he worked in his career
Shows
All in the Family
Charles Cappleman on All in the Family produced by Norman Lear
Charles Cappleman on All in the Family director Paul Bogart
Charles Cappleman on the cast of All in the Family, including Jean Stapleton, Carroll O'Connor, and Rob Reiner
Captain & Tennille
Charles Cappleman on Captain & Tennille
Carol Burnett Show, The (1967-78)
Charles Cappleman on celebrating the 33rd Anniversary of The Carol Burnett Show on stage 33 at Television City with the cast of the show
Charles Cappleman on The Carol Burnett Show
Charles Cappleman on working with Joe Hamilton and Dave Powers on The Carol Burnett Show
CBS Playhouse
Charles Cappleman on CBS Playhouse
Climax!
Charles Cappleman on his duties as a stage manager, and on working on Climax! and Playhouse 90
Ed Sullivan Show, The aka Toast of the Town
Charles Cappleman on The Ed Sullivan Show
Ford Star Jubilee
Charles Cappleman on working with Judy Garland on Ford Star Jubilee, and on working with big stars
Charles Cappleman on working with Judy Garland on Ford Star Jubilee
Jack Benny Program, The
Charles Cappleman on working with Nat Perrin and Jack Benny on The Jack Benny Program
Kukla, Fran & Ollie
Charles Cappleman on working with Kukla, Fran & Ollie creator Burr Tillstrom at NBC in Chicago
Meet Millie
Charles Cappleman on stage managing for the series Meet Millie and My Favorite Husband
Person to Person
Charles Cappleman on working on Edward R. Murrow's Person to Person
Playhouse 90
Charles Cappleman on his duties as a stage manager, and on working on Climax! and Playhouse 90
Charles Cappleman on the production challenges of Playhouse 90, and on working with John Frankenheimer and Fred Coe
Charles Cappleman on the directors and writers of Playhouse 90
Red Skelton Show, The
Charles Cappleman on stage managing for My Friend Irma and The Red Skelton Show
Studio One
Charles Cappleman on Studio One, and on Herbert Brodkin and Worthington Miner
Studs' Place
Charles Cappleman on working with Studs Terkel on Studs' Place, and on Chicago in the 1950s
That's My Boy!
Charles Cappleman on stage managing That's My Boy! and The Jo Stafford Show
Topics
Advice
Charles Cappleman on his advice to aspiring television executives
Classic TV Series Episodes
Charles Cappleman on his duties as a stage manager, and on working on Climax! and Playhouse 90
Creative Influences and Inspiration
Charles Cappleman on his mentors
Drama
Charles Cappleman on his duties as a stage manager, and on working on Climax! and Playhouse 90
First Big Break
Charles Cappleman on becoming a stage manager at CBS
Historic Events and Social Change
Charles Cappleman on the Korean War interrupting his broadcasting career
Hollywood Blacklist
Charles Cappleman on the Hollywood Blacklist
Industry Crossroads
Charles Cappleman on the Hollywood Blacklist
Korean War
Charles Cappleman on his involvement in the Korean War
Media Consolidation
Charles Cappleman on the consolidation of Viacom, CBS, and Infinity, and on Mel Karmazin and Leslie Moonves
New Media
Charles Cappleman on the emergence of new media
Pivotal Career Moments
Charles Cappleman on becoming a stage manager at CBS
Charles Cappleman on his mentors
Pop Culture
Charles Cappleman on his duties as a stage manager, and on working on Climax! and Playhouse 90
Studio and Network Management
Charles Cappleman on William S. Paley
Charles Cappleman on Frank Stanton
Charles Cappleman on James T. Aburey and Robert D. Wood
Charles Cappleman on William S. Paley's management style
Technological Innovation
Charles Cappleman on the technology at the dawn of television
Charles Cappleman on the technological innovation he oversaw at CBS as manager of the production electronics department
Charles Cappleman on the role CBS executives like Frank Stanton played in technological innovation while he was manager of the production electronics department, and on its impact on news gathering
Charles Cappleman on how new technology impacted the CBS coverage of political conventions
Charles Cappleman on the technological innovations that emanated from CBS Television City
Charles Cappleman on the advent of video tape, and the impact it had on production
Charles Cappleman on the advent and development of video tape, and how it impacted production
Charles Cappleman on CBS Television City converting to color broadcasting
Charles Cappleman on how the distribution of shows to the CBS affiliates changed over time
Charles Cappleman on implementing HDTV at CBS
Television Industry
Charles Cappleman on how CBS in Los Angeles was structured in the 1950s
Charles Cappleman on the stages at CBS Television City
Charles Cappleman on the Hollywood Blacklist
Charles Cappleman on the various stages at CBS Television City
Charles Cappleman on where CBS produced their shows before Television City
Charles Cappleman on William S. Paley
Charles Cappleman on Frank Stanton
Charles Cappleman on James T. Aburey and Robert D. Wood
Charles Cappleman on William S. Paley's management style
Charles Cappleman on the consolidation of Viacom, CBS, and Infinity, and on Mel Karmazin and Leslie Moonves
Charles Cappleman on how Television City has changed over the years
Charles Cappleman on the emergence of new media
Charles Cappleman on his advice to aspiring television executives
War
Charles Cappleman on the Korean War interrupting his broadcasting career
Professions
Executives
Charles Cappleman on being hired by Bob Daly to become general manager of Television City
Charles Cappleman on attending a yearly CBS affiliates conference
Charles Cappleman on his advice to aspiring television executives
Production Professionals
Charles Cappleman on his duties as a stage manager, and on working on Climax! and Playhouse 90
Charles Cappleman on his duties as assistant director of design and production operations at CBS in the 1960s
Charles Cappleman on managing the production electronics department at CBS
Charles Cappleman on the technological innovation he oversaw at CBS as manager of production electronics
Charles Cappleman on the role CBS executives like Frank Stanton played in technological innovation while he was manager of production electronic, and on its impact on news gathering
Charles Cappleman on how new technology impacted the CBS coverage of political conventions
Charles Cappleman on his duties as director of special projects at CBS
Charles Cappleman on his duties as director of program production services at CBS
Stage Manager
Charles Cappleman on his duties as a stage manager, and on working on Climax! and Playhouse 90
Television Executive
Charles Cappleman on being hired by Bob Daly to become general manager of Television City
Charles Cappleman on attending a yearly CBS affiliates conference
Genres
Classic Anthology Series
Charles Cappleman on his duties as a stage manager, and on working on Climax! and Playhouse 90
Charles Cappleman on the production challenges of Playhouse 90
Charles Cappleman on Studio One, and on Herbert Brodkin and Worthington Minor
Charles Cappleman on CBS Playhouse
Comedy Series
Charles Cappleman on stage managing for the series Meet Millie and My Favorite Husband
Charles Cappleman on stage managing That's My Boy! and The Jo Stafford Show
Charles Cappleman on The Carol Burnett Show
Charles Cappleman on All in the Family
Music Shows & Variety Shows/Specials
Charles Cappleman on working with Judy Garland on Ford Star Jubilee, and on working with big stars
Charles Cappleman on stage managing That's My Boy! and The Jo Stafford Show
Charles Cappleman on celebrating the 33rd Anniversary of The Carol Burnett Show on stage 33 at Television City with the cast of the show
Charles Cappleman on The Ed Sullivan Show
Charles Cappleman on working with Joe Hamilton and Dave Powers on The Carol Burnett Show
Charles Cappleman on Captain & Tennille
News and Documentary
Charles Cappleman on working on Edward R. Murrow's Person to Person
Talk Shows
Charles Cappleman on working on Edward R. Murrow's Person to Person
People
James T. Aubrey
Charles Cappleman on James T. Aburey and Robert D. Wood
Charles Cappleman on James T. Aubrey
Bob Barker
Charles Cappleman on Bob Barker
Jack Benny
Charles Cappleman on working with Nat Perrin and Jack Benny on The Jack Benny Program
Seymour Berns
Charles Cappleman on working with Seymour Berns on The Red Skelton Show
Herbert Brodkin
Charles Cappleman on Studio One, and on Herbert Brodkin and Worthington Miner
Carol Burnett
Charles Cappleman on The Carol Burnett Show
Walter Cronkite
Charles Cappleman on Walter Cronkite
Bob Daly
Charles Cappleman on being hired by Bob Daly to become general manager of Television City
Charles Cappleman on Bob Daly
Michael Dann
Charles Cappleman on Michael Dann
Fred Friendly
Charles Cappleman on Fred Friendly
Judy Garland
Charles Cappleman on working with Judy Garland on Ford Star Jubilee
Charles Cappleman on Judy Garland
Whoopi Goldberg
Charles Cappleman on Whoopi Goldberg
Joe Hamilton
Charles Cappleman on working with Joe Hamilton and Dave Powers on The Carol Burnett Show
Mel Karmazin
Charles Cappleman on the consolidation of Viacom, CBS, and Infinity, and on Mel Karmazin and Leslie Moonves
Charles Cappleman on Mel Karmazin and Leslie Moonves
Danny Kaye
Charles Cappleman on Danny Kaye
Perry Lafferty
Charles Cappleman on Perry Lafferty
Worthington Miner
Charles Cappleman on Studio One, and on Herbert Brodkin and Worthington Miner
Leslie Moonves
Charles Cappleman on the consolidation of Viacom, CBS, and Infinity, and on Mel Karmazin and Leslie Moonves
Charles Cappleman on Mel Karmazin and Leslie Moonves
Mary Tyler Moore
Charles Cappleman on Mary Tyler Moore
Anne Nelson
Charles Cappleman on Anne Nelson
Bob Newhart
Charles Cappleman on Bob Newhart
Carroll O'Connor
Charles Cappleman on the cast of All in the Family, including Jean Stapleton, Carroll O'Connor, and Rob Reiner
William S. Paley
Charles Cappleman on working for William S. Paley and Frank Stanton
Charles Cappleman on William S. Paley
Charles Cappleman on William S. Paley's management style
Nat Perrin
Charles Cappleman on working with Nat Perrin and Jack Benny on The Jack Benny Program
Dave Powers
Charles Cappleman on working with Joe Hamilton and Dave Powers on The Carol Burnett Show
Rob Reiner
Charles Cappleman on the cast of All in the Family, including Jean Stapleton, Carroll O'Connor, and Rob Reiner
Hubbell Robinson
Charles Cappleman on Hubbell Robinson
Marion Ross
Charles Cappleman on Marion Ross
Fred Silverman
Charles Cappleman on Fred Silverman
Frank Stanton
Charles Cappleman on working for William S. Paley and Frank Stanton
Charles Cappleman on the role CBS executives like Frank Stanton played in technological innovation while he was manager of the production electronics department, and on its impact on news gathering
Charles Cappleman on Frank Stanton
Charles Cappleman on how Frank Stanton leaving CBS impacted the network
Jean Stapleton
Charles Cappleman on the cast of All in the Family, including Jean Stapleton, Carroll O'Connor, and Rob Reiner
David Susskind
Chales Cappleman on David Susskind
Studs Terkel
Charles Cappleman on working with Studs Terkel on Studs' Place, and on Chicago in the 1950s
Burr Tillstrom
Charles Cappleman on working with Kukla, Fran & Ollie creator Burr Tillstrom at NBC in Chicago
Laurence A. Tisch
Charles Cappleman on Laurence A. Tisch
Charles Cappleman on Laurence A. Tisch
Norman Tokar
Charles Cappleman on working with Norman Tokar
William J. Bell, Jr.
Charles Cappleman on William J. Bell, Jr.
Ethel Winant
Chales Cappleman on casting director Ethel Winant
Charles Cappleman on Ethel Winant
Robert D. Wood
Charles Cappleman on James T. Aburey and Robert D. Wood
Charles Cappleman on Robert D. Wood