"Network television's role is to put asses in the seats to watch commercials. Anybody who doesn't want to admit that shouldn't be in the business. That doesn't mean that the programming that you do can't be uplifting, or challenging, or inspiring. But it's not initially about the programming. It is about coming up with programs that enough people want to see, that advertisers want to advertise in. That's just the way the game is."

    About This Interview

    In his four-hour interview, Don Ohlmeyer (1945-2017) talks about his early years in television as an associate director for ABC sports. He shares memorable moments from his experiences directing the 1968 Olympics in Mexico City and the 1972 Olympics in Munich. He describes producing the popular series of specials Battle of the Network Stars, his transition to NBC Sports, and the creation of Ohlmeyer Communications, under which he produced the Emmy-winning television movie Special Bulletin. He details his move back to NBC, where he served as president of West Coast operations and reinvigorated the network with "Must See TV" and post-Johnny Carson late-night television. Finally, he chronicles his departure from NBC, his brief return to Monday Night Football, and his then-current passions: painting, teaching, and writing. Dan Pasternack conducted the interview on November 17, 2004 in Malibu, CA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Chapter 1

    On his childhood and early influences; on his early interest in sports; on attending college at the University of Notre Dame; on watching sports on television with his father; on how television viewing habits have changed over the years

    13:05

    On working for ABC Sports out of college; on hustling pool; on The 1968 Olympics; on mentor Roone Arledge

    15:38

    Chapter 2

    On The 1968 Olympics (contd.); on mentor Roone Arledge; on Wide World of Sports; on the core of ABC Sports - great storytelling; on creative innovations pushing technology forward

    17:57

    On Monday Night Football; on Pete Rozelle getting ABC to pick up Monday Night Football; on working with director Chet Forte; on Monday Night Football  announcers Frank Gifford, Don Meredith and Howard Cosell

    11:52

    Chapter 3

    On Monday Night Football (contd.); on negotiating contracts; on Monday Night Football announcer Howard Cosell

    15:21

    On winning an Emmy in 1975 for Monday Night Football;  on the 1972 Munich Olympics

    06:50

    On Battle of the Network Stars and The Superstars, precursor to Battle of the Network Stars

    07:09

    Chapter 4

    On leaving ABC for NBC Sports in 1977; on mentoring a new generation of sports executives; on producing the World Series; on the U.S. boycotting the 1980 Olympics in Moscow

    12:16

    On leaving NBC in 1982; on producing the 1977 Emmy Awards; on creating his own company and producing the television movie Special Bulletin

    16:16

    Chapter 5

    On producing the television movie, Under Siege; on the power of made-for-TV movies; on producing the Indianapolis 500

    11:22

    On heading West Coast Operations at NBC in 1993; on creating "Must See TV" on Thursday nights; on the "Walk the Dog" Theory

    18:22

    Chapter 6

    On Warren Littlefield; on executives staying in touch with audience interests; on the importance of research

    07:34

    On the importance of the 18-49 demographic; on the biggest misconception about television

    05:12

    On the Late Night battles - Leno v. Letterman; on supporting Conan O'Brien to take over The Late Show; on removing Norm MacDonald from SNL's "Weekend Update"

    15:47

    Chapter 7

    On the decision to pull Norm MacDonald from Saturday Night Live 's "Weekend Update"; on making NBC the number one network; on the costly negotiations to keep ER at NBC

    11:20

    On the business model for NBC; on Seinfeld and Cheers

    12:03

    On NBC's coverage of the 1997 World Series interfering with the launch of the Fall schedule; on leaving NBC, recovering from addiction and alcoholism, and changing his outlook on life

    06:48

    Chapter 8

    On returning to Monday Night Football  and how it had changed; on leaving Monday Night Football and his next three projects: painting, writing and teaching

    10:20

    On Frank Gifford, Brandon Tartikoff and Lorne Michaels; on how television has changed and where it's headed; on advice to aspiring producers, his proudest career achievement, and how he'd like to be remembered

    17:53

    ABC's Wide World of Sports

    Don Ohlmeyer on Roone Arledge's influence on Wide World of Sports  and on pushing the industry forward on Monday Night Football

    05:16

    Don Ohlmeyer on the format of Wide World of Sports  and how it evolved

    06:03

    American Idol

    Don Ohlmeyer on the appeal of American Idol

    00:32

    Battle of the Network Stars

    Don Ohlmeyer on Battle of the Network Stars

    07:09

    Bluffing It

    Don Ohlmeyer on producing Bluffing It

    01:37

    Cheers

    Don Ohlmeyer on overseeing Cheers and Seinfeld

    01:47

    Executive Don Ohlmeyer on the final episode of Cheers

    01:52

    Chicago Hope

    Don Ohlmeyer on ER and Chicago Hope

    03:19

    Emmy Awards, The (Primetime and Daytime)

    Don Ohlmeyer on producing the 1977 Emmy Awards

    03:20

    ER

    Don Ohlmeyer on ER and Chicago Hope

    03:19

    Don Ohlmeyer on the slow start of ER

    01:08

    Executive Don Ohlmeyer on the costly negotiations to keep ER at NBC

    02:28

    Friends

    Don Ohlmeyer on Friends

    03:36

    Executive Don Ohlmeyer on the costly negotiations to keep ER at NBC

    02:28

    Indianapolis 500

    Don Ohlmeyer on producing the Indianapolis 500

    03:49

    John Denver Specials

    Don Ohlmeyer on producing John Denver's Christmas in Aspen

    01:00

    Late Night with Conan O'Brien

    Don Ohlmeyer on Conan O'Brien filling Letterman's spot on NBC Late Night

    04:24

    Law & Order

    Don Ohlmeyer on loving Law & Order

    01:06

    Monday Night Football

    Don Ohlmeyer on producing Monday Night Football with Chet Forte, who he had beaten in a pool game years earlier

    00:47

    Don Ohlmeyer on Roone Arledge's influence on Wide World of Sports  and on pushing the industry forward on Monday Night Football

    03:18

    Don Ohlmeyer on pushing the industry forward on Monday Night Football

    11:52

    Don Ohlmeyer on Monday Night Football (contd.)

    20:10

    Don Ohlmeyer on going back to Monday Night Football

    03:53

    Olympics

    Don Ohlmeyer on becoming an associate director on The 1968 Olympics

    03:06

    Don Ohlmeyer on The 1968 Olympics

    06:38

    Don Ohlmeyer on the 1972 Munich Olympics

    05:24

    Don Ohlmeyer on the 1980 Olympics in Moscow

    04:33

    Saturday Night Live

    Don Ohlmeyer on removing Norm MacDonald from SNL's "Weekend Update"

    01:48

    Executive Don Ohlmeyer on the decision to pull Norm MacDonald from Saturday Night Live 's "Weekend Update"

    08:05

    Seinfeld

    Don Ohlmeyer on overseeing Cheers and Seinfeld

    01:47

    Executive Don Ohlmeyer on NBC's hit show Seinfeld

    05:24

    Executive Don Ohlmeyer on the final episode of Seinfeld

    02:32

    Seinfeld: "The Finale"

    Executive Don Ohlmeyer on the final episode of Seinfeld

    02:32

    Something About Amelia

    Don Ohlmeyer on producing the television movie, Something About Amelia

    00:16

    Special Bulletin

    Don Ohlmeyer on producing the television movie Special Bulletin

    08:34

    Superstars, The

    Don Ohlmeyer on The Superstars, precursor to Battle of the Network Stars

    07:09

    Tonight Show with Jay Leno, The

    Executive Don Ohlmeyer on Jay Leno's work ethic and connection with the audience

    00:52

    Under Siege

    Don Ohlmeyer on producing Under Siege

    01:29

    World Series

    Don Ohlmeyer on the U.S. boycotting the 1980 Olympics in Moscow

    02:02

    Executive Don Ohlmeyer on NBC's coverage of the 1997 World Series interfering with the launch of the Fall schedule

    02:50

    Classic TV Series Episodes

    Executive Don Ohlmeyer on the final episode of Seinfeld

    02:32

    Executive Don Ohlmeyer on the final episode of Cheers

    01:52

    Comedy

    Executive Don Ohlmeyer on the final episode of Seinfeld

    02:32

    Executive Don Ohlmeyer on the final episode of Cheers

    01:52

    Coverage

    Don Ohlmeyer on pushing the industry forward on Monday Night Football

    11:52

    Emmy Awards

    Don Ohlmeyer on winning an Emmy in 1975 for Monday Night Football and on winning an Emmy for the recap of the 1972 Munich Olympics

    06:50

    Don Ohlmeyer on producing the 1977 Emmy Awards

    03:20

    Jimmy Carter

    Don Ohlmeyer on the U.S. boycotting the 1980 Olympics in Moscow

    01:44

    Olympic Games

    Don Ohlmeyer on becoming an associate director on The 1968 Olympics

    03:06

    Pop Culture

    Don Ohlmeyer on "Must See TV"

    03:43

    Executive Don Ohlmeyer on the final episode of Cheers

    01:52

    Executive Don Ohlmeyer on the final episode of Seinfeld

    02:32

    Sports

    Don Ohlmeyer on becoming an associate director on The 1968 Olympics

    03:06

    We Cried

    Don Ohlmeyer on Jim McKay's amazing job covering the 1972 Munich Olympics

    02:01

    World Series

    Don Ohlmeyer on producing the World Series

    02:02

    Directors

    Don Ohlmeyer on becoming an associate director on The 1968 Olympics

    03:06

    Representatives

    Don Ohlmeyer on becoming producer of Monday Night Football

    00:45

    Television Executive

    Don Ohlmeyer on what it means to be a good Program Executive

    02:15

    Comedy Series

    Don Ohlmeyer on "Must See TV"

    03:43

    Executive Don Ohlmeyer on NBC's hit show Seinfeld

    05:24

    Late Night

    Don Ohlmeyer on the Late Night battles - Leno v. Letterman

    09:35

    Sports

    Don Ohlmeyer on becoming an associate director on The 1968 Olympics

    03:06

    Don Ohlmeyer on the format of Wide World of Sports  and how it evolved

    06:03

    Don Ohlmeyer on Monday Night Football  

    11:52

    Don Ohlmeyer on Jim McKay's amazing job covering the 1972 Munich Olympics

    02:01

    Don Ohlmeyer on going back to Monday Night Football

    03:53

    TV Movies/Miniseries/Dramatic Specials

    Don Ohlmeyer on producing the television movie Special Bulletin

    08:34

    Roone Arledge

    Don Ohlmeyer on mentor Roone Arledge telling him he respected how Ohlmeyer reacted under pressure

    06:42

    Don Ohlmeyer on Roone Arledge at The 1968 Olympics, Arledge's move from sports to news, and what he taught his mentees

    11:54

    Don Ohlmeyer on the format of Wide World of Sports  and how it evolved

    01:30

    Don Ohlmeyer on negotiation lessons learned from Roone Arledge

    05:34

    Don Ohlmeyer on Jim McKay's amazing job covering the 1972 Munich Olympics

    02:01

    Don Ohlmeyer on Battle of the Network Stars

    07:09

    Don Ohlmeyer on leaving ABC in 1977 - mentor Roone Arledge was taking over news

    02:52

    James Burrows

    Don Ohlmeyer on Friends  and "Must See TV"

    03:17

    Executive Don Ohlmeyer on the final episode of Cheers

    00:33

    Dick Button

    Don Ohlmeyer on Battle of the Network Stars

    07:09

    Howard Cosell

    Don Ohlmeyer on Monday Night Football  announcers Frank Gifford, Don Meredith and Howard Cosell

    04:01

    Don Ohlmeyer on Monday Night Football announcer Howard Cosell

    09:47

    Don Ohlmeyer on Howard Cosell announcing Battle of the Network Stars

    07:09

    Larry David

    Executive Don Ohlmeyer on Larry David leaving Seinfeld

    05:24

    John Denver

    Don Ohlmeyer on producing John Denver's Christmas in Aspen

    01:00

    Chet Forte

    Don Ohlmeyer on producing Monday Night Football with Chet Forte, who he had beaten in a pool game years earlier

    00:47

    Don Ohlmeyer on what he and colleague Chet Forte learned from mentor Roone Arledge

    08:03

    Don Ohlmeyer on becoming producer of Monday Night Football  and working with director Chet Forte

    04:29

    John Frankenheimer

    Don Ohlmeyer on admiring John Frankeneheimer's directing style 

    02:33

    Frank Gifford

    Don Ohlmeyer on Monday Night Football  announcers Frank Gifford, Don Meredith and Howard Cosell

    04:01

    Don Ohlmeyer on sports announcer Frank Gifford

    01:29

    Bryant Gumbel

    Don Ohlmeyer on hiring Bryant Gumbel

    00:40

    Marshall Herskovitz

    Don Ohlmeyer on producing the television movie Special Bulletin

    08:34

    Gabe Kaplan

    Don Ohlmeyer on Battle of the Network Stars

    07:09

    Howard Katz

    Don Ohlmeyer on going back to Monday Night Football

    03:53

    Jay Leno

    Don Ohlmeyer on the Late Night battles - Leno v. Letterman

    09:35

    David Letterman

    Don Ohlmeyer on the Late Night battles - Leno v. Letterman

    09:35

    Warren Littlefield

    Don Ohlmeyer on Warren Littlefield

    01:41

    Don Ohlmeyer on Warren Littlefield wanting Leno to replace Johnny Carson

    09:35

    Vince Lombardi

    Don Ohlmeyer on shooting an interview with Vince Lombardi and announcer Howard Cosell

    01:52

    Norm MacDonald

    Don Ohlmeyer on removing Norm MacDonald from SNL's "Weekend Update"

    01:48

    Executive Don Ohlmeyer on the decision to pull Norm MacDonald from Saturday Night Live 's "Weekend Update"

    08:05

    Jim McKay

    Don Ohlmeyer on the format of Wide World of Sports  and how it evolved

    01:30

    Don Ohlmeyer on Jim McKay's amazing job covering the 1972 Munich Olympics

    02:01

    Don Meredith

    Don Ohlmeyer on Monday Night Football  announcers Frank Gifford, Don Meredith and Howard Cosell

    04:01

    Lorne Michaels

    Don Ohlmeyer on Lorne Michaels wanting to produce a late night talk show with Conan O'Brien

    06:12

    Executive Don Ohlmeyer on the decision to pull Norm MacDonald from Saturday Night Live 's "Weekend Update"

    08:05

    Don Ohlmeyer on Lorne Michaels

    00:57

    John Miller

    Don Ohlmeyer on John Miller and Vince Mansey and "Must See TV"

    03:43

    Dennis Miller

    Executive Don Ohlmeyer on the decision to pull Norm MacDonald from Saturday Night Live 's "Weekend Update"

    08:05

    Conan O'Brien

    Don Ohlmeyer on Conan O'Brien filling Letterman's spot on NBC Late Night

    04:24

    Pete Rozelle

    Don Ohlmeyer on Pete Rozelle getting ABC to pick up Monday Night Football

    02:45

    Jerry Seinfeld

    Executive Don Ohlmeyer on Larry David leaving Seinfeld

    05:24

    Brandon Tartikoff

    Don Ohlmeyer on Brandon Tartikoff

    02:46

    Dennis Weaver

    Don Ohlmeyer on producing Bluffing It

    01:37

    John Williams

    Don Ohlmeyer on directing Season's Greetings   - an evening with John Williams and the Boston Pops

    01:12

    Dick Wolf

    Don Ohlmeyer on loving Law & Order

    01:06

    Edward Zwick

    Don Ohlmeyer on producing the television movie Special Bulletin

    08:34

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