"I can't stand the thought of producers or directors who scream at people in order to get their work accomplished. I would much rather get it done because those people care about you and want to support you."

    About This Interview

    In his four-and-a-half-hour interview, Burt Metcalfe (1935-2022) talks about his early years as an actor in films and in television series in the 1950s and '60s, including his role as a regular on the sitcom Father of the Bride. He mentions some of his television guest appearances on such series as Hennesey, The Twilight Zone, and The Outer Limits and discusses his transition to behind-the-camera work as a casting director and as the assistant to producer Harry Ackerman. Metcalfe then details his association with the long-running classic sitcom M*A*S*H, on which he worked for the series' entire run, moving up from associate producer to executive producer. He recounts the casting and research for the series, the production, and memorable series episodes. B-roll consists of a few M*A*S*H -related stills. Gary Rutkowski conducted the interview on October 23, 2003 in Studio City, CA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Chapter 1

    On his early life and influences; on his early acting roles

    15:51

    On his stint in the Navy; on acting in the movie "Gidget"; on meeting Rod Serling and Robert Mitchum

    12:34

    Chapter 2

    On acting in the now-classic Twilight Zone episode "The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street"; on early roles on The Outer Limits and Father of the Bride; on beginning to make the transition to behind-the-camera

    14:51

    On acting in The Fugitive; on getting into casting; on casting Days of Our Lives

    10:48

    Chapter 3

    On his early years as a casting director at Screen Gems; on the process of casting; on the Hollywood Blacklist in the '60's

    16:39

    On working with producer Harry Ackerman; on recasting the role of "Darrin Stephens" in Bewitched and casting Sally Field in The Flying Nun; on leaving Screen Gems

    11:34

    Chapter 4

    On how he came to work for and leave Universal; on how he became an associate producer for M*A*S*H

    07:49

    On casting M*A*S*H; on shooting the pilot for the show

    20:30

    Chapter 5

    On casting and producing the pilot for M*A*S*H (continued); on producing and doing research for M*A*S*H

    16:31

    On show creator Larry Gelbart's importance to M*A*S*H; on M*A*S*H and the Vietnam War; on network interference on the show - CBS's edicts about showing blood and including a laugh track

    12:01

    Chapter 6

    On Gene Reynolds' contribution to M*A*S*H; on his shifting duties and Alan Alda's contributions to M*A*S*H

    13:26

    On M*A*S*H's evolving characters and cast defections; on having the cast members direct M*A*S*H

    15:43

    Chapter 7

    On M*A*S*H's cast members and characters; on the death of "Col Henry Blake" on M*A*S*H

    17:47

    On memorable episodes of M*A*S*H that he directed or co-wrote, including "A War For All Seasons", "The Party", and "The Interview" - which he considers M*A*S*H's best episode

    09:12

    Chapter 8

    On shooting the final scene of M*A*S*H; on various behind-the-scenes contributors to M*A*S*H; on noteworthy episodes of the show

    13:47

    On Standards and Practices and M*A*S*H; on the M*A*S*H finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    14:46

    Chapter 9

    On the reception of the M*A*S*H finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"; on the legacy of M*A*S*H; on executive producing After MASH

    14:16

    On post-M*A*S*H projects; on what makes a good television producer; on how he would like to be remembered

    14:26

    On B-Roll photos from his career: photo of Burt Metcalfe directing M*A*S*H, of kissing his wife on the set of the final filming day of M*A*S*H, of Alan Alda, Gene Reynolds and Burt Metcalfe, and a cast photo of M*A*S*H  given to him by Mike Farrell

    01:31

    AfterMASH

    Burt Metcalfe on the genesis of After MASH

    01:58

    Burt Metcalfe on how After MASH was received

    01:16

    Burt Metcalfe on the cancellation of After MASH

    01:03

    Bewitched

    Burt Metcalfe on recasting the role of "Darrin Stephens" on Bewitched

    01:53

    Days of Our Lives

    Burt Metcalfe on casting Days of Our Lives

    04:49

    Flying Nun, The

    Burt Metcalfe on casting Sally Field as "Sister Bertrille" on The Flying Nun

    02:14

    Fugitive, The

    Burt Metcalfe on acting in The Fugitive

    01:27

    M*A*S*H

    Burt Metcalfe on the reception of the M*A*S*H finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    02:04

    Burt Metcalfe on watching the M*A*S*H  finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    01:45

    Burt Metcalfe on how he came be an associate producer for M*A*S*H

    02:38

    Burt Metcalfe on casting M*A*S*H  

    18:29

    Burt Metcalfe on shooting the pilot for M*A*S*H  

    02:01

    Burt Metcalfe on casting Larry Linville as "Major Frank Burns" on M*A*S*H

    01:45

    Burt Metcalfe on casting William Christopher as "Father Francis Mulcahy" on M*A*S*H

    05:56

    Burt Metcalfe on casting Loretta Swit as "Major Margaret Houlihan" on M*A*S*H

    02:30

    Burt Metcalfe on the pilot for M*A*S*H

    04:12

    Burt Metcalfe on the research that was done to prepare for M*A*S*H

    09:56

    Burt Metcalfe on how M*A*S*H related to Vietnam

    01:47

    Burt Metcalfe on CBS's edicts about showing blood in M*A*S*H

    02:07

    Burt Metcalfe on the laugh track in M*A*S*H

    02:04

    Burt Metcalfe on the dramatic elements of M*A*S*H

    02:30

    On show creator Larry Gelbart's importance to M*A*S*H

    02:51

    Burt Metcalfe on Gene Reynolds' contribution to M*A*S*H

    01:36

    Burt Metcalfe on how his position on M*A*S*H changed over the years

    04:05

    Burt Metcalfe on Alan Alda's contributions to M*A*S*H

    07:43

    Burt Metcalfe on Wayne Rogers as "Captain 'Trapper' John McIntyre" on M*A*S*H

    02:38

    Burt Metcalfe on McLean Stevenson as "Col Henry Blake" on M*A*S*H

    01:25

    Burt Metcalfe on Harry Morgan as "Col Sherman T. Potter" on M*A*S*H

    02:36

    Burt Metcalfe on Mike Farrell as Captian B.J. Hunnicut on M*A*S*H

    06:09

    Burt Metcalfe on Loretta Swit as "Major Margaret Houlihan" on M*A*S*H

    02:54

    Burt Metcalfe on William Christopher as "Father Francis Mulcahy" on M*A*S*H

    03:01

    Burt Metcalfe on the hour-long season seven episode of M*A*S*H: "Our Finest Hour" inspired by season four's "The Interview"

    01:23

    Burt Metcalfe on the M*A*S*H episode "Holy Mess"

    01:57

    Burt Metcalfe on the death of "Col Henry Blake" on M*A*S*H

    04:39

    Burt Metcalfe on directing the M*A*S*H episode "A War For All Seasons"

    03:35

    Burt Metcalfe on directing and co-writing the M*A*S*H episode "The Party"

    04:45

    Burt Metcalfe on Jamie Farr as "Corporal Max Klinger" on M*A*S*H

    02:56

    Burt Metcalfe on Gary Burghoff as "Walter 'Radar' O'Reilly" on M*A*S*H

    01:22

    Burt Metcalfe on David Ogden Stiers as "Major Charles Emerson Winchester" on M*A*S*H

    02:33

    Burt Metcalfe on the next-to-last M*A*S*H  episode "As Time Goes By"

    04:18

    Burt Metcalfe on the M*A*S*H episode "Point of View"

    02:59

    Burt Metcalfe on Standards and Practices and M*A*S*H

    02:39

    Burt Metcalfe on the M*A*S*H finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    09:54

    Burt Metcalfe on writing the M*A*S*H finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    04:48

    Burt Metcalfe on the commercial and critical reaction to the M*A*S*H  finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    00:55

    M*A*S*H: "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    Burt Metcalfe on the reception of the M*A*S*H finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    02:04

    Burt Metcalfe on watching the M*A*S*H  finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    01:45

    Burt Metcalfe on the M*A*S*H finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    09:54

    Burt Metcalfe on writing the M*A*S*H finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    04:48

    Burt Metcalfe on a fire that destroyed the M*A*S*H set just prior to filming "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen":

    02:12

    Burt Metcalfe on the commercial and critical reaction to the M*A*S*H finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    00:55

    M*A*S*H: "The Interview"

    Burt Metcalfe on William Christopher as "Father Francis Mulcahy" on M*A*S*H

    03:01

    Burt Metcalfe on the hour-long season seven episode of M*A*S*H: "Our Finest Hour" inspired by season four's "The Interview"

    01:23

    Outer Limits, The (1963-65)

    Burt Metcalfe on acting in The Outer Limits

    01:38

    Twilight Zone, The

    Burt Metcalfe on getting cast on The Twilight Zone episode "The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street"

    02:35

    Burt Metcalfe on the shooting and the plot of the Twilight Zone episode "The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street"

    01:28

    Burt Metcalfe on the legacy of the Twilight Zone episode "The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street"

    00:17

    Twilight Zone, The: "The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street"

    Burt Metcalfe on getting cast on The Twilight Zone episode "The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street"

    02:35

    Burt Metcalfe on the shooting and plot of the now-classic Twilight Zone episode "The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street"

    01:28

    Burt Metcalfe on the legacy of the now-classic Twilight Zone episode "The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street"

    00:17

    Censorship / Standards & Practices

    Burt Metcalfe on CBS's edicts about showing blood in M*A*S*H

    02:07

    Characters & Catchphrases

    Burt Metcalfe on the death of "Col Henry Blake" on M*A*S*H

    04:39

    Classic TV Series Episodes

    Burt Metcalfe on the reception of the M*A*S*H finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    02:04

    Producer Burt Metcalfe on the most effective line in M*A*S*H: "The Interview"

    03:01

    Burt Metcalfe on the M*A*S*H finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    09:54

    Burt Metcalfe on the next-to-last M*A*S*H episode "As Time Goes By"

    04:17

    Comedy

    Producer Burt Metcalfe on the most effective line in M*A*S*H: "The Interview"

    03:01

    Burt Metcalfe on the M*A*S*H finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    09:54

    Burt Metcalfe on the next-to-last M*A*S*H episode "As Time Goes By"

    04:17

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Burt Metcalfe on how M*A*S*H related to Vietnam

    01:47

    Hollywood Blacklist

    Burt Metcalfe on the Hollywood Blacklist

    04:58

    Industry Crossroads

    Burt Metcalfe on the Hollywood Blacklist

    04:58

    Memorable Moments on Television

    Burt Metcalfe on the reception of the M*A*S*H finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    02:04

    Burt Metcalfe on the death of "Col Henry Blake" on M*A*S*H

    04:39

    Producer Burt Metcalfe on the most effective line in M*A*S*H: "The Interview"

    03:01

    Burt Metcalfe on the M*A*S*H  finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    09:54

    Burt Metcalfe on the next-to-last M*A*S*H episode "As Time Goes By"

    04:17

    Pop Culture

    Burt Metcalfe on the reception of the M*A*S*H finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    02:04

    Burt Metcalfe on the laugh track in M*A*S*H

    02:04

    Producer Burt Metcalfe on the most effective line in M*A*S*H: "The Interview"

    03:01

    Burt Metcalfe on the death of "Col Henry Blake" on M*A*S*H

    04:39

    Burt Metcalfe on the M*A*S*H finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    09:54

    Burt Metcalfe on the next-to-last M*A*S*H episode "As Time Goes By"

    04:17

    Television Industry

    Burt Metcalfe on shooting the pilot for M*A*S*H

    02:01

    Burt Metcalfe on CBS's edicts about showing blood in M*A*S*H

    02:07

    Burt Metcalfe on the laugh track in M*A*S*H

    02:04

    Burt Metcalfe on the pilot for M*A*S*H

    04:12

    Vietnam War

    Burt Metcalfe on how M*A*S*H related to Vietnam

    01:47

    War

    Burt Metcalfe on how M*A*S*H related to Vietnam

    01:47

    We Celebrated

    Burt Metcalfe on the reception of the M*A*S*H finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    02:04

    Burt Metcalfe on the M*A*S*H  finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    09:54

    We Cried

    Burt Metcalfe on the death of "Col Henry Blake" on M*A*S*H

    04:39

    Producer Burt Metcalfe on the most effective line in M*A*S*H: "The Interview"

    03:01

    Burt Metcalfe on the next-to-last M*A*S*H episode "As Time Goes By"

    04:17

    Casting Director

    Burt Metcalfe on the process of casting

    03:19

    Producers

    Burt Metcalfe on what makes a good television producer

    02:19

    Burt Metcalfe on the writing and producing process for M*A*S*H

    02:27

    Talent Professionals

    Burt Metcalfe on the process of casting

    03:19

    Comedy Series

    Burt Metcalfe on the reception of and watching the M*A*S*H finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    03:49

    Burt Metcalfe on executive producing After MASH; on the genesis and cancellation of After MASH

    04:17

    Burt Metcalfe on how he came to work for M*A*S*H

    02:38

    Burt Metcalfe on casting M*A*S*H

    18:29

    Burt Metcalfe on the pilot for M*A*S*H

    04:12

    Burt Metcalfe on the research that was done to prepare for M*A*S*H

    10:06

    Burt Metcalfe on the dramatic elements, relation to Vietnam, and laugh track on M*A*S*H

    09:10

    Burt Metcalfe on characters and cast defections on M*A*S*H

    29:09

    Producer Burt Metcalfe on the most effective line in M*A*S*H: "The Interview"

    03:01

    Burt Metcalfe on the death of "Col Henry Blake" on M*A*S*H

    04:39

    Burt Metcalfe on directing the M*A*S*H episode "A War For All Seasons"

    03:35

    Burt Metcalfe on directing and co-writing the M*A*S*H episode "The Party"

    04:45

    Burt Metcalfe on the M*A*S*H  finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    09:54

    Sci-Fi/Supernatural Series

    Burt Metcalfe on acting in the now-classic Twilight Zone episode "The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street"

    04:45

    Alan Alda

    Burt Metcalfe on Alan Alda's contributions to M*A*S*H

    07:43

    Gary Burghoff

    Burt Metcalfe on Gary Burghoff as "Walter 'Radar' O'Reilly" on M*A*S*H

    01:22

    William Christopher

    Burt Metcalfe on casting William Christopher as "Father Francis Mulcahy" on M*A*S*H

    05:46

    Burt Metcalfe on William Christopher as "Father Francis Mulcahy" on M*A*S*H

    03:01

    Jamie Farr

    Burt Metcalfe on Jamie Farr as "Corporal Max Klinger" on M*A*S*H

    02:56

    Mike Farrell

    Burt Metcalfe on Mike Farrell as Captian B.J. Hunnicut on M*A*S*H

    06:09

    Sally Field

    Burt Metcalfe on casting Sally Field in Gidget and The Flying Nun

    02:14

    Larry Gelbart

    On show creator Larry Gelbart's importance to M*A*S*H

    02:51

    Larry Linville

    Burt Metcalfe on casting Larry Linville as "Major Frank Burns" on M*A*S*H

    01:45

    Harry Morgan

    Burt Metcalfe on Harry Morgan as "Col Sherman T. Potter" on M*A*S*H

    02:36

    Gene Reynolds

    Burt Metcalfe on Gene Reynolds' contribution to M*A*S*H

    01:36

    Wayne Rogers

    Burt Metcalfe on Wayne Rogers as "Captain 'Trapper' John McIntyre" on M*A*S*H

    02:38

    McLean Stevenson

    Burt Metcalfe on McLean Stevenson as "Col Henry Blake" on M*A*S*H

    01:25

    Burt Metcalfe on the death of "Col Henry Blake" on M*A*S*H

    04:39

    David Ogden Stiers

    Burt Metcalfe on David Ogden Stiers as "Major Charles Emerson Winchester" on M*A*S*H

    02:33

    Loretta Swit

    Burt Metcalfe on casting Loretta Swit as "Major Margaret Houlihan" on M*A*S*H

    02:30

    Burt Metcalfe on Loretta Swit as "Major Margaret Houlihan" on M*A*S*H

    02:54

    Dick York

    Burt Metcalfe on recasting the role of "Darrin Stephens" on Bewitched

    01:53

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