"I think an excellent costume design is that which serves its purpose to the best possible degree. Gives the actor the character. Helps the actor grow into that human being … it helps the audience to be able to look at that and know what the hell it is they're looking at. That is the best costume. When it really serves as that complete thing that gives you all the information you need to have."

    About This Interview

    In his two-hour interview, Ray Aghayan (1928-2011) speaks about designing costumes for Matinee Theatre while on staff with the NBC wardrobe department, the challenges of quick costume changes for live television, and his long association with Bob Mackie. He fondly recalls working on The George Gobel Show, winning the first ever awarded Emmy for costume design (along with Mackie) for Alice Through the Looking Glass, and designing costumes for The Judy Garland Show, many Academy Awards telecasts, and the opening ceremonies of the 1984 Olympics. Karen Herman conducted the interview on August 26, 1998 in Studio City, CA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Ray Aghayan on costume design and winning the first costume design Emmy for Alice Through the Looking Glass

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    Chapter 1

    On his childhood in Iran and moving to the United States; on his childhood influences and learning sewing and design from his mother

    17:37

    On his recollections of early television; on his early costume design experiences for Matinee Theater

    10:50

    Chapter 2

    On costume design and the production work week for Matinee Theater; on research for costume ideas and designing for quick changes for live television

    17:56

    On costume design for The George Gobel Show, Shirley Temple's Storybook, and The Judy Garland Show

    10:37

    Chapter 3

    On costume design for The Judy Garland Show and Bob Mackie becoming his assistant; on working with Judy Garland

    10:50

    On his partnership with Bob Mackie; on working with directors and producers on The Judy Garland Show; on working on films and designing and winning the first costume design Emmy for Alice Through the Looking Glass; on designing for the Academy Awards, starting in 1968

    17:47

    Chapter 4

    On costume design for the Academy Awards; on designing for the 1984 Olympics; on producing the 1975 Fashion Awards and Consenting Adult

    10:05

    On his then-current projects - running Elizabeth Courtney costumes; on designing for nightclub acts

    04:01

    On what makes great costume design and a great costume designer; on the evolution of costumes; on what constitues "bad" work in his mind; on advice to aspiring costume designers; on his thoughts on people with whom he's worked 

    12:55

    Chapter 5

    On photographs of people with whom he's worked: Julie Andrews, Carol Channing, Doris Day, Judy Garland, and Bob Mackie

    04:05

    Academy Awards, The

    Ray Aghayan on designing for the Academy Awards, starting in 1968

    02:14

    Ray Aghayan on costume design for the Academy Awards

    02:28

    Alice Through the Looking Glass

    Ray Aghayan on costume design for Alice Through the Looking Glass

    07:26

    Consenting Adult

    Ray Aghayan on producing Consenting Adult

    02:32

    George Gobel Show, The

    Ray Aghayan on costume design for The George Gobel Show

    06:40

    Judy Garland Show, The

    Ray Aghayan on costume design for The Judy Garland Show

    01:08

    Ray Aghayan on costume design for The Judy Garland Show and Bob Mackie becoming his assistant

    18:57

    Julie Andrews Specials

    Ray Aghayan on photos from a Julie Andrews Special

    00:43

    NBC Matinee Theater

    Ray Aghayan on his early costume design experiences for Matinee Theater

    09:05

    Ray Aghayan on costume design for Matinee Theater

    17:56

    Olympics

    Ray Aghayan on designing for the 1984 Olympics

    04:24

    Shirley Temple's Storybook

    Ray Aghayan on costume design for Shirley Temple's Storybook

    02:49

    Emmy Awards

    Ray Aghayan on getting an Emmy category for costume designers and winning the first Emmy for costume design with Bob Mackie in 1967

    01:58

    LGBTQIA+

    Ray Aghayan on producing Consenting Adult

    02:32

    Olympic Games

    Ray Aghayan on designing for the 1984 Olympics

    07:15

    Pivotal Career Moments

    Ray Aghayan on costume design for The Judy Garland Show

    01:08

    Ray Aghayan on costume design for The Judy Garland Show and Bob Mackie becoming his assistant

    18:57

    Costume Designer

    Ray Aghayan on his early costume design experiences for Matinee Theater

    09:05

    Ray Aghayan what makes great costume design and a great costume designer

    00:45

    Ray Aghayan on advice to aspiring costume designers

    00:38

    Awards Shows

    Ray Aghayan on designing for the Academy Awards, starting in 1968

    02:14

    Children's Programming

    Ray Aghayan on costume design for Shirley Temple's Storybook

    02:49

    Classic Anthology Series

    Ray Aghayan on costume design for Matinee Theater

    17:56

    Music Shows & Variety Shows/Specials

    Ray Aghayan on costume design for The George Gobel Show

    06:40

    Ray Aghayan on costume design for The Judy Garland Show

    01:08

    Ray Aghayan on his first impressions of Judy Garland; on her costume choices for The Judy Garland Show

    05:03

    Sports

    Ray Aghayan on designing for the 1984 Olympics

    04:24

    Julie Andrews

    Ray Aghayan on photos from a Julie Andrews Special

    00:43

    Carol Burnett

    Ray Aghayan on working with Carol Burnett

    00:09

    Diahann Carroll

    Ray Aghayan on working with Diahann Carroll

    00:09

    Carol Channing

    Ray Aghayan on working with Carol Channing

    00:36

    Ray Aghayan on a photo of him with Carol Channing

    00:23

    Doris Day

    Ray Aghayan on working with Doris Day

    00:20

    Ray Aghayan on a photo of him with Doris Day

    00:39

    Angie Dickinson

    Ray Aghayan on working with Angie Dickinson

    00:36

    Judy Garland

    Ray Aghayan on his first impressions of Judy Garland; on her costume choices for The Judy Garland Show

    05:03

    Ray Aghayan on a photo of him with Judy Garland

    00:27

    Mitzi Gaynor

    Ray Aghayan on working with Mitzi Gaynor

    00:12

    Alan Handley

    Ray Aghayan on working with Alan Handley

    03:26

    Arthur Hiller

    Ray Aghayan on working with Arthur Hiller

    00:31

    Norman Jewison

    Ray Aghayan on working with Norman Jewison

    00:14

    Bob Mackie

    Ray Aghayan on costume design for The Judy Garland Show and Bob Mackie becoming his assistant

    02:11

    Ray Aghayan on his partnership with Bob Mackie

    00:35

    Ray Aghayan on costume design with Bob Mackie for Alice Through the Looking Glass

    07:26

    Ray Aghayan on working with Bob Mackie

    00:27

    Ray Aghayan on a photo of him with Bob Mackie

    00:29

    Geraldine Page

    Ray Aghayan on designing for Geraldine Page on Matinee Theater

    01:17

    Diana Ross

    Ray Aghayan on working with Diana Ross

    00:29

    George Schlatter

    Ray Aghayan on working with George Schlatter

    00:21

    Barbra Streisand

    Ray Aghayan on working with Barbra Streisand

    00:19

    Shirley Temple

    Ray Aghayan on costume design for Shirley Temple's Storybook

    02:49

    Ray Aghayan on working with Shirley Temple

    00:23

    Danny Thomas

    Ray Aghayan on working with Danny Thomas

    00:14

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