"I remember when Walter [Cronkite] said the Nixon White House was in a conspiracy to destroy the news media and I said, 'Walter, I wouldn't use the word conspiracy.' When you saw the documentation, I went back years later and apologized to him. There was a conspiracy."

    About This Interview

    In his six-hour interview, news producer Joseph Wershba (1920-2011) speaks about his early years with CBS Radio, and making the transition to television. He recalls working with Fred Friendly and Edward R. Murrow on See it Now on several important stories, including the Murrow takedown of Senator Joseph McCarthy. He talks about Murrow's later career, and his eventual death from lung cancer in 1965. He details the creation of 60 Minutes by producer Don Hewitt, and recounts working with all of the original correspondents including Mike Wallace, Morley Safer, and Harry Reasoner. He outlines several memorable 60 Minutes pieces he produced, including on the Gulf of Tonkin incident, on Japanese internment camps during World War II, and on the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa. He concludes by remembering some of the most important people he encountered and worked with during his long career. Jeff Kisseloff conducted the interview on October 14, 1997 in Manhasset Hills, NY.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Joseph Wershba on being hired as a writer for CBS News on radio in 1944

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    Joseph Wershba on producing 60 Minutes story on Japanese Internment during World War II

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    Joseph Wershba on the staff of CBS News on radio in 1944 including Paul White and Edward R. Murrow

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    Joseph Wershba on the last time he saw Edward R. Murrow

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    Joseph Wershba on 60 Minutes being an investigative show, and on Mike Wallace covering Northern Ireland

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    Chapter 1

    On his early life and influences; on deciding he wanted to be a journalist, and on early favorite writers of his; on the politics of his family when he was growing up, and on getting involved with politics as he got older

    16:20

    On radio newscasts he listened to while growing up; on his experience with World War II; on being hired as a writer for CBS News on radio in 1944

    12:33

    Chapter 2

    On the staff of CBS News on radio in 1944 including Paul White and Edward R. Murrow; on the format of CBS News on radio in 1944, and the kinds of stories covered; on starting to write for CBS News on television for the 1948 political conventions

    15:16

    On reporter Douglas Edwards making the transition, and on the technological aspects of working in radio; on working on the radio program "CBS Views the Press" with Edward R. Murrow; on CBS reporter Don Hollenbeck committing suicide after having been accused of Communist sympathy

    13:29

    Chapter 3

    On CBS reporter Don Hollenbeck committing suicide after having been accused of Communist sympathies; on the start of his professional association with Edward R. Murrow and Fred Friendly, and on "Hear it Now"; on working with Walter Cronkite

    17:37

    On the relationship between Fred Friendly and Edward R. Murrow, and on Friendly's importance to CBS News in the '50s; on what it was like to work for Fred Friendly and Edward R. Murrow at CBS News; on a contentious meeting with William S. Paley and Edward R. Murrow

    11:18

    Chapter 4

    On Edward R. Murrow's relationships with William S. Paley and Walter Cronkite; on writing for See It Now, produced by Fred Friendly and anchored by Edward R. Murrow; on Alcoa, the sponsor of See It Now

    14:09

    On the staff of See It Now; on See It Now being apart from CBS News, and on Edward R. Murrow's later relationship with Walter Cronkite and management at CBS; on working on the See It Now story about reserve Air Force lieutenant Milo Radulovich

    14:12

    Chapter 5

    On working on the See It Now story about reserve Air Force lieutenant Milo Radulovich; on gauging reaction the See It Now story about reserve Air Force lieutenant Milo Radulovich; on the logistics of piecing together and editing the Milo Radulovich See It Now piece

    14:02

    On writing and recording the narration for the Milo Radulovich piece on See It Now, and on rehearsing the show; on the technical aspects of See It Now airing live; on the kinds of stories that were done by See It Now during its first few years

    07:52

    On the public reaction of the See It Now piece on Milo Radulovich, and on the anti-Communist crowd reaction; on the importance and the legacy of the Milo Radulovich story on See It Now

    07:24

    Chapter 6

    On collecting information for the classic See It Now broadcast "A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy"; on how Senator Joseph R. McCarthy used television; on his relationship with Senator Joseph McCarthy

    14:02

    On Fred Friendly and Edward R. Murrow putting together See It Now "A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy"; on Dr. Frank Stanton and William S. Paley's reaction to See It Now "A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy"

    13:55

    Chapter 7

    On the impact the McCarthy See It Now story had on Edward R. Murrow's career and standing at CBS, and Murrow's interview with Robert Oppenheimer; on doing a See It Now story about suspected Communist Annie Lee Moss; on the See It Now report "The Argument in Indianapolis," and on the then-growing power of television

    15:19

    On being made to sign a "loyalty oath" by CBS; on the legacy of See It Now, anchored by Edward R. Murrow and produced by Fred Friendly, and on 60 Minutes; on the last time he saw Edward R. Murrow

    12:25

    Chapter 8

    On Edward R. Murrow's feelings about CBS toward the end of his life; on the See It Now "Christmas in Korea" report in 1952 with Edward R. Murrow

    13:33

    On the creation of 60 Minutes by Don Hewitt, and on early stories; on 60 Minutes being an investigative show, and on Mike Wallace covering Northern Ireland

    14:46

    Chapter 9

    On the differences between Fred Friendly and Don Hewitt as producers; on coming up with, or being assigned stories for 60 Minutes, and on stories he was not allowed to do; on 60 Minutes story on The Gulf of Tonkin incident

    15:11

    On dealing with advertisers on 60 Minutes; on the confrontational style of 60 Minutes; on some of the most important stories during his time at the show and on budgeting his stories

    12:25

    Chapter 10

    On producing the H.L. Hunt story for Mike Wallace on 60 Minutes; on producing the James Michener story for 60 Minutes; on producing 60 Minutes story on Japanese Internment during World War II

    14:56

    On producing the Jimmy Hoffa story for 60 Minutes (Morley Safer reported); on producing the Henry Durham story for 60 Minutes

    12:38

    Chapter 11

    On how the industry has changed since he started, and on the then-future of news on television

    07:11

    On various people he's worked with in his career

    20:54

    Chapter 12

    On some of the people he worked with in his career

    21:25

    On B-roll pictures from his career- with a Senator at the 1948 Philadelphia Convention; print ad for The Top of the News ; Edward R. Murrow broadcasting on CBS Radio; with the CBS Views The Press team; election night, 1960

    04:54

    Chapter 13

    On B-roll pictures from his career- with the CBS News team circa 1952; New York City Police Academy; with Cardinal Cushing; Mike Wallace on the West Bank; with Carl Sandberg and Wershba's son Don; with author James Michener; with his wife and Walter Cronkite; dancing with his wife; with the CBS News crew in Korea 1952

    11:31

    60 Minutes

    Joseph Wershba on the legacy of See It Now, anchored by Edward R. Murrow and produced by Fred Friendly, and on 60 Minutes

    03:07

    Joseph Wershba on the creation of 60 Minutes by Don Hewitt, and on early stories

    05:34

    Joseph Wershba on 60 Minutes being an investigative show, and on Mike Wallace covering Northern Ireland

    09:12

    Joseph Wershba on the differences between Fred Friendly and Don Hewitt of 60 Minutes as producers

    02:38

    Joseph Wershba on coming up with, or being assigned stories for 60 Minutes, and on stories he was not allowed to do

    08:19

    Joseph Wershba on 60 Minutes story on The Gulf of Tonkin incident

    04:14

    Joseph Wershba on dealing with advertisers on 60 Minutes

    01:17

    Joseph Wershba on the confrontational style of 60 Minutes

    07:13

    Joseph Wershba on the "macho" attitude that pervaded 60 Minutes

    01:43

    Joseph Wershba on some of the most important stories during his time at 60 Minutes, and on budgeting his stories

    02:12

    Joseph Wershba on producing the H.L. Hunt story for Mike Wallace on 60 Minutes

    05:53

    Joseph Wershba on producing the James Michener story for 60 Minutes

    02:51

    Joseph Wershba on producing 60 Minutes story on Japanese Internment during World War II

    05:42

    Joseph Wershba on producing the Jimmy Hoffa story for 60 Minutes, reported by Morley Safer

    10:17

    Joseph Wershba on producing the Henry Durham story for 60 Minutes

    02:51

    See It Now

    Joseph Wershba on writing for See It Now, produced by Fred Friendly and anchored by Edward R. Murrow

    05:16

    Joseph Wershba on Fred Friendly and Edward R. Murrow's original plans for See It Now

    02:38

    Joseph Wershba on Alcoa, the sponsor of See It Now

    03:10

    Joseph Wershba on the staff of See It Now

    06:18

    Joseph Wershba on See It Now being apart from CBS News, and on Edward R. Murrow's later relationship with Walter Cronkite and management at CBS

    03:38

    Joseph Wershba on working on the See It Now story about reserve Air Force lieutenant Milo Radulovich

    04:16

    Joseph Wershba on working on the See It Now story about reserve Air Force lieutenant Milo Radulovich

    02:35

    Joseph Wershba on gauging reaction the See It Now story about reserve Air Force lieutenant Milo Radulovich

    04:42

    Joseph Wershba on the logistics of piecing together and editing the Milo Radulovich See It Now piece

    06:45

    Joseph Wershba on writing and recording the narration for the Milo Radulovich piece on See It Now, and on rehearsing the show

    03:28

    Joseph Wershba on the technical aspects of See It Now airing live

    03:00

    Joseph Wershba on the kinds of stories that were done by See It Now during its first few years

    01:24

    Joseph Wershba on the public reaction of the See It Now piece on Milo Radulovich, and on the anti-Communist crowd reaction

    05:04

    Joseph Wershba on the importance and the legacy of the Milo Radulovich story on See It Now

    02:20

    Joseph Wershba on collecting information for the classic See It Now broadcast "A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy"

    05:22

    Joseph Wershba on how Senator Joseph R. McCarthy used television

    05:34

    Joseph Wershba on his relationship with Senator Joseph McCarthy

    03:05

    Joseph Wershba on Fred Friendly and Edward R. Murrow putting together See It Now "A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy"

    08:58

    Joseph Wershba on Dr. Frank Stanton and William S. Paley's reaction to See It Now "A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy"

    04:30

    Joseph Wershba on the impact the McCarthy See It Now story had on Edward R. Murrow's career and standing at CBS, and Murrow's interview with Robert Oppenheimer

    03:02

    Joseph Wershba on doing a See It Now story about suspected Communist Annie Lee Moss

    05:25

    Joseph Wershba on the See It Now report "The Argument in Indianapolis," and on the then-growing power of television

    06:52

    Joseph Wershba on being made to sign a "loyalty oath" by CBS

    06:54

    Joseph Wershba on the legacy of See It Now, anchored by Edward R. Murrow and produced by Fred Friendly, and on 60 Minutes

    03:07

    Joseph Wershba on the See It Now "Christmas in Korea" report in 1952 with Edward R. Murrow

    12:07

    See It Now: "A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy"

    Joseph Wershba on collecting information for the classic See It Now broadcast "A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy"

    05:22

    Joseph Wershba on how Senator Joseph R. McCarthy used television

    05:34

    Joseph Wershba on his relationship with Senator Joseph McCarthy

    03:05

    Joseph Wershba on Fred Friendly and Edward R. Murrow putting together See It Now "A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy"

    08:58

    Joseph Wershba on Dr. Frank Stanton and William S. Paley's reaction to See It Now "A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy"

    04:30

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Joseph Wershba on his experience with World War II

    03:03

    Joseph Wershba on the See It Now "Christmas in Korea" report in 1952 with Edward R. Murrow

    12:07

    Joseph Wershba on 60 Minutes story on The Gulf of Tonkin incident

    04:14

    Hollywood Blacklist

    Joseph Wershba on CBS reporter Don Hollenbeck committing suicide after having been accused of Communist sympathy

    01:37

    Joseph Wershba on CBS reporter Don Hollenbeck committing suicide after having been accused of Communist sympathies

    02:49

    Joseph Wershba on working on the See It Now story about reserve Air Force lieutenant Milo Radulovich

    04:16

    Joseph Wershba on working on the See It Now story about reserve Air Force lieutenant Milo Radulovich

    29:18

    Joseph Wershba on Edward R. Murrow's "A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy" on See It Now

    27:29

    Industry Crossroads

    Joseph Wershba on CBS reporter Don Hollenbeck committing suicide after having been accused of Communist sympathy

    01:37

    Joseph Wershba on CBS reporter Don Hollenbeck committing suicide after having been accused of Communist sympathies

    02:49

    Joseph Wershba on working on the See It Now story about reserve Air Force lieutenant Milo Radulovich

    04:16

    Joseph Wershba on working on the See It Now story about reserve Air Force lieutenant Milo Radulovich

    29:18

    Joseph Wershba on Edward R. Murrow's "A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy" on See It Now

    27:29

    Joseph Wershba on being made to sign a "loyalty oath" by CBS

    06:54

    Korean War

    Joseph Wershba on the See It Now "Christmas in Korea" report in 1952 with Edward R. Murrow

    12:07

    Television Industry

    Joseph Wershba on CBS reporter Don Hollenbeck committing suicide after having been accused of Communist sympathy

    01:37

    Joseph Wershba on CBS reporter Don Hollenbeck committing suicide after having been accused of Communist sympathies

    02:49

    Joseph Wershba on working on the See It Now story about reserve Air Force lieutenant Milo Radulovich

    04:16

    Joseph Wershba on working on the See It Now story about reserve Air Force lieutenant Milo Radulovich

    29:18

    Joseph Wershba on Edward R. Murrow's "A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy" on See It Now

    27:29

    Joseph Wershba on being made to sign a "loyalty oath" by CBS

    06:54

    Joseph Wershba on how the industry has changed since he started, and on the then-future of news on television

    07:11

    Vietnam War

    Joseph Wershba on 60 Minutes story on The Gulf of Tonkin incident

    04:14

    War

    Joseph Wershba on his experience with World War II

    03:03

    Joseph Wershba on the See It Now "Christmas in Korea" report in 1952 with Edward R. Murrow

    12:07

    Joseph Wershba on 60 Minutes story on The Gulf of Tonkin incident

    04:14

    World War II

    Joseph Wershba on his experience with World War II

    03:03

    News and Documentary

    Joseph Wershba on writing for See It Now

    25:16

    Joseph Wershba on working on the See It Now story about reserve Air Force lieutenant Milo Radulovich

    29:18

    Joseph Wershba on Edward R. Murrow's "A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy" on See It Now

    27:29

    Jospeh Wershba on writing for 60 Minutes

    27:36

    Joseph Wershba on producing stories for 60 Minutes

    27:34

    Spiro T. Agnew

    Joseph Wershba on Spiro T. Agnew

    00:52

    Mili Lerner Bonsignori

    Joseph Wershba on Mili Lerner Bonsignori

    00:56

    Ed Bradley

    Joseph Wershba on Ed Bradley

    00:34

    Charles Collingwood

    Joseph Wershba on Charles Collingwood

    00:43

    Walter Cronkite

    Joseph Wershba on working with Walter Cronkite

    05:21

    Joseph Wershba on the relationship between Walter Cronkite and Edward R. Murrow

    02:46

    Joseph Wershba on Edward R. Murrow's relationships with William S. Paley and Walter Cronkite

    03:05

    Joseph Wershba on Walter Cronkite

    01:24

    Douglas Edwards

    Joseph Wershba on reporter Douglas Edwards making the transition, and on the technological aspects of working in radio

    05:18

    Michael Eisner

    Joseph Wershba on Michael Eisner

    01:17

    Fred Friendly

    Joseph Wershba on the start of his professional association with Edward R. Murrow and Fred Friendly, and on "Hear it Now"

    06:41

    Joseph Wershba on the relationship between Fred Friendly and Edward R. Murrow, and on Friendly's importance to CBS News in the '50s

    02:47

    Joseph Wershba on what it was like to work for Fred Friendly and Edward R. Murrow at CBS News

    06:03

    Joseph Wershba on writing for See It Now, produced by Fred Friendly and anchored by Edward R. Murrow

    25:16

    Joseph Wershba on Fred Friendly and Edward R. Murrow putting together See It Now "A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy"

    08:58

    Joseph Wershba on the legacy of See It Now, anchored by Edward R. Murrow and produced by Fred Friendly, and on 60 Minutes

    03:07

    Joseph Wershba on the differences between Fred Friendly and Don Hewitt as producers

    02:38

    Joseph Wershba on Fred Friendly

    00:24

    Don Hewitt

    Joseph Wershba on the creation of 60 Minutes by Don Hewitt, and on early stories

    05:34

    Joseph Wershba on the differences between Fred Friendly and Don Hewitt as producers

    02:38

    Joseph Wershba on Don Hewitt

    00:45

    Alger Hiss

    Joseph Wershba on Alger Hiss

    01:20

    Bill Leonard

    Joseph Wershba on Bill Leonard

    01:05

    Joseph McCarthy

    Joseph Wershba on collecting information for the classic See It Now broadcast "A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy"

    05:22

    Joseph Wershba on how Senator Joseph R. McCarthy used television

    05:34

    Joseph Wershba on his relationship with Senator Joseph McCarthy

    03:05

    Joseph Wershba on Fred Friendly and Edward R. Murrow putting together See It Now "A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy"

    08:58

    Joseph Wershba on Dr. Frank Stanton and William S. Paley's reaction to See It Now "A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy"

    04:30

    Sig Mickelson

    Joseph Wershba on Sig Mickelson

    01:13

    Edward R. Murrow

    Joseph Wershba on the staff of CBS News on radio in 1944 including Paul White and Edward R. Murrow

    04:14

    Joseph Wershba on working on the radio program "CBS Views the Press" with Edward R. Murrow

    06:34

    Joseph Wershba on the start of his professional association with Edward R. Murrow and Fred Friendly, and on "Hear it Now"

    06:41

    Joseph Wershba on the relationship between Walter Cronkite and Edward R. Murrow

    02:46

    Joseph Wershba on the relationship between Fred Friendly and Edward R. Murrow, and on Friendly's importance to CBS News in the '50s

    02:47

    Joseph Wershba on what it was like to work for Fred Friendly and Edward R. Murrow at CBS News

    06:03

    Joseph Wershba on a contentious meeting with William S. Paley and Edward R. Murrow

    02:28

    Joseph Wershba on Edward R. Murrow's relationships with William S. Paley and Walter Cronkite

    03:05

    Joseph Wershba on writing for See It Now, produced by Fred Friendly and anchored by Edward R. Murrow

    25:16

    Joseph Wershba on Fred Friendly and Edward R. Murrow putting together See It Now "A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy"

    08:58

    Joseph Wershba on the last time he saw Edward R. Murrow

    02:24

    Joseph Wershba on the impact the McCarthy See It Now story had on Edward R. Murrow's career and standing at CBS, and Murrow's interview with Robert Oppenheimer

    03:02

    Joseph Wershba on the legacy of See It Now, anchored by Edward R. Murrow and produced by Fred Friendly, and on 60 Minutes

    03:07

    Joseph Wershba on Edward R. Murrow's feelings about CBS toward the end of his life

    01:26

    Joseph Wershba on the See It Now "Christmas in Korea" report in 1952 with Edward R. Murrow

    12:07

    Joseph Wershba on Edward R. Murrow

    02:01

    William S. Paley

    Joseph Wershba on a contentious meeting with William S. Paley and Edward R. Murrow

    02:28

    Joseph Wershba on Edward R. Murrow's relationships with William S. Paley and Walter Cronkite

    03:05

    Joseph Wershba on Dr. Frank Stanton and William S. Paley's reaction to See It Now "A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy"

    04:30

    Joseph Wershba on William S. Paley

    01:36

    Milo Radulovich

    Joseph Wershba on working on the See It Now story about reserve Air Force lieutenant Milo Radulovich

    02:35

    Joseph Wershba on gauging reaction the See It Now story about reserve Air Force lieutenant Milo Radulovich

    04:42

    Joseph Wershba on the logistics of piecing together and editing the Milo Radulovich See It Now piece

    06:45

    Joseph Wershba on the public reaction of the See It Now piece on Milo Radulovich, and on the anti-Communist crowd reaction

    05:04

    Joseph Wershba on the importance and the legacy of the Milo Radulovich story on See It Now

    02:20

    Dan Rather

    Joseph Wershba on Dan Rather

    01:07

    Harry Reasoner

    Joseph Wershba on Harry Reasoner

    00:59

    Andy Rooney

    Joseph Wershba on Andy Rooney

    00:24

    Morley Safer

    Joseph Wershba on producing the Jimmy Hoffa story for 60 Minutes (Morley Safer reported)

    10:17

    Joseph Wershba on Morley Safer

    00:50

    Diane Sawyer

    Joseph Wershba on Diane Sawyer

    01:06

    Eric Sevareid

    Joseph Wershba on Eric Sevareid

    00:42

    Howard K. Smith

    Joseph Wershba on Howard K. Smith

    01:46

    Frank Stanton

    Joseph Wershba on Dr. Frank Stanton and William S. Paley's reaction to See It Now "A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy"

    04:30

    Joseph Wershba on Frank Stanton

    01:23

    Laurence A. Tisch

    Joseph Wershba on Larry Tisch

    01:37

    Mike Wallace

    Joseph Wershba on 60 Minutes being an investigative show, and on Mike Wallace covering Northern Ireland

    09:12

    Joseph Wershba on producing the H.L. Hunt story for Mike Wallace on 60 Minutes

    05:53

    Joseph Wershba on Mike Wallace

    01:29

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