"We like to watch attractive people. I don’t ever apologize for that. People say to me, 'there's a CW type - attractive.' I always say, 'attractive and talented.' Because we don’t settle."

    About This Interview

    In her two-hour-and-fifteen-minute interview, Lori Openden discusses how she got her start in the industry working for a television agent at William Morris. She shares how she got hired as a secretary on Barney Miller and started her career in casting with the show's casting director, Beth Uffner. She describes casting the Barney Miller spin-off Fish, becoming a casting director at MTM, and recalls her work casting The Betty White Show, Rhoda, The White Shadow, and Hill Street Blues. She tells of becoming an independent casting director and casting TV movies and Cheers (starting in season 3) and becoming a casting executive at NBC, where she was involved in casting Seinfeld, Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, Mad About You, Frasier, Friends, Will & Grace, L.A. Law, Law & Order, Law & Order: Special Victims Unit, ER, Freaks and Geeks, and The West Wing. Openden details becoming a casting consultant and then executive at UPN, where she oversaw casting on several shows, including Everybody Hates Chris and Veronica Mars. She then recounts becoming head of casting at the CW, where she oversaw the casting on Gossip Girl, The Vampire Diaries, Arrow, The Flash, Batwoman, Black Lightning, Riverdale, Jane the Virgin, Dynasty, and Charmed, among others. She describes the CW's programming strategy, how she learned the craft of casting, offers advice to aspiring actors and casting directors, and reflects on her experiences as head of casting at three different networks (NBC, UPN, and the CW). Adrienne Faillace conducted the interview on December 3, 2019 in North Hollywood, CA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Lori Openden on learning about casting from Danny Arnold on Barney Miller

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    Chapter 1

    On her childhood and early influences; on her father's death and how that impacted her life; on her favorite TV shows growing up and her college years at Cal State Northridge

    04:45

    On working for a television agent at William Morris after college; on getting hired as a secretary on Barnery Miller and getting interested in casting; on casting Barnery Miller and its spin-off, Fish

    10:57

    On leaving Barnery Miller and casting the MTM shows The Betty White Show, Rhoda, The White Shadow, and Hill Street Blues

    14:27

    On becoming an independent casting director and casting TV movies; on casting Cheers - joining in season three; on her casting duties at NBC and her involvement in casting Saved by the Bell

    11:42

    On her involvement with casting Seinfeld, Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, Mad About You, Frasier, and Friends

    19:33

    Chapter 2

    On her involvement in casting Will & Grace, L.A. Law, Law & Order, and Law & Order: Special Victims Unit

    14:43

    On her involvement in casting ER, Freaks and Geeks, and The West Wing

    11:37

    On becoming an independent casting director; on becoming a casting consultant and then executive at UPN; on UPN shows she cast, including Everybody Hates Chris and Veronica Mars

    10:05

    On the programming strategy at UPN and the merger of UPN and the WB to form the CW; on a typical day for her as head of casting at the CW; on casting the CW shows Gossip Girl, The Vampire Diaries, Arrow, The Flash, Batwoman, Black Lightning, Riverdale, Jane the Virgin, Dynasty, and Charmed

    30:00

    Chapter 3

    On casting the CW shows All American, Nancy Drew, and In the Dark

    04:03

    On the success of CW shows on digital platforms and how the industry has changed since she started in broadcast TV; on how the abundance of digital platforms has impacted casting; on advice to aspiring actors; on her mentors

    03:13

    On advice for people who want to go into casting; on the casting field being predominately women; on her proudest career achievement; on how she would like to be remembered

    07:58

    8 Simple Rules ... for Dating My Teenage Daughter

    Lori Openden on being the casting director on 8 Simple Rules ... for Dating My Teenage Daughter

    01:44

    All American

    Lori Openden on casting the CW show All American

    02:43

    Arrow

    Lori Openden on casting Stephen Amell on Arrow

    00:39

    Barney Miller

    Lori Openden on getting hired as a secretary on Barnery Miller and getting interested in casting

    03:01

    Lori Openden on the casting process on Barnery Miller

    05:19

    Lori Openden on when she left Barnery Miller and began working for MTM - casting The Betty White Show and Rhoda

    01:21

    Batwoman

    Lori Openden on casting Ruby Rose on Batwoman

    00:42

    Bette

    Lori Openden on being the casting director on the sitcom Bette

    00:44

    Betty White Show, The (1977-78)

    Lori Openden on when she left Barnery Miller and began working for MTM - casting The Betty White Show and Rhoda

    01:21

    Black Lightning

    Lori Openden on casting Black Lightning

    00:47

    Charmed

    Lori Openden on casting the CW reboot of Charmed

    01:01

    Cheers

    Lori Openden on casting Cheers, starting in season three of the series

    05:34

    Dynasty

    Lori Openden on casting the CW reboot of Dynasty

    00:41

    ER

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting ER

    05:05

    Everybody Hates Chris

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Everybody Hates Chris

    00:42

    First Monday

    Lori Openden on being the casting director on the drama First Monday

    00:20

    Fish

    Lori Openden on casting the Barnery Miller spin-off, FIsh

    01:17

    Flash, The (2014)

    Lori Openden on casting Grant Gustin on The Flash

    00:26

    Frasier

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Frasier

    03:21

    Freaks and Geeks

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Freaks and Geeks

    02:09

    Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, The

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air

    02:16

    Friends

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Friends

    05:55

    Gossip Girl

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Gossip Girl

    01:22

    Hill Street Blues

    Lori Openden on casting Hill Street Blues and the impact the show had on TV dramas

    04:17

    Lori Openden on the challenges of casting Hill Street Blues and what the day-to-day process was like

    04:53

    In the Dark

    Lori Openden on casting the CW show In the Dark

    00:35

    Jane the Virgin

    Lori Openden on casting Jane the Virgin

    03:07

    L.A. Law

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting L.A. Law

    02:07

    Law & Order

    Lori Openden on her (non) involvement in casting the pilot of Law & Order and adding talent to the show over the years

    02:11

    Law & Order: Special Victims Unit

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Law & Order: Special Victims Unit

    00:45

    Mad About You

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Mad About You

    00:28

    Nancy Drew

    Lori Openden on casting the CW show Nancy Drew

    00:42

    Rhoda

    Lori Openden on when she left Barnery Miller and began working for MTM - casting The Betty White Show and Rhoda

    01:21

    Riverdale

    Lori Openden on casting the young stars on Riverdale

    01:32

    Lori Openden on casting the parents on Riverdale

    01:32

    Saved by the Bell

    Lori Openden on the success of Saved by the Bell

    00:41

    Seinfeld

    Lori Openden on casting Seinfeld

    04:00

    Supergirl

    Lori Openden on Supergirl moving from CBS to the CW

    00:28

    Vampire Diaries, The

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting The Vampire Diaries

    01:32

    Veronica Mars

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Kristen Bell on Veronica Mars

    02:20

    West Wing, The

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting The West Wing

    03:11

    White Shadow, The

    Lori Openden on casting The White Shadow

    03:53

    Will & Grace

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting the main cast and guest stars on Will & Grace

    05:02

    Advice

    Lori Openden on her advice for aspiring actors

    00:34

    Lori Openden on advice for people who want to go into casting - learn the business side

    00:35

    First Big Break

    Lori Openden on getting hired as a secretary on Barnery Miller and getting interested in casting

    03:01

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Lori Openden on the impact of Will & Grace on American culture

    00:32

    Lori Openden on how diversity in casting has changed since she started in the industry

    01:53

    Lori Openden on the casting field being predominately women

    01:12

    LGBTQIA+

    Lori Openden on the impact of Will & Grace on American culture

    00:32

    Lori Openden on how diversity in casting has changed since she started in the industry

    01:53

    Pivotal Career Moments

    Lori Openden on getting hired as a secretary on Barnery Miller and getting interested in casting

    03:01

    Representation on Television

    Lori Openden on the impact of Will & Grace on American culture

    00:32

    Lori Openden on how diversity in casting has changed since she started in the industry

    01:53

    Lori Openden on the casting field being predominately women

    01:12

    Technological Innovation

    Lori Openden on the technological innovations over the years that now allow her to approve all guest stars on CW shows

    02:55

    Lori Openden on how the abundance of digital platforms has impacted casting

    00:38

    Television Industry

    Lori Openden on the success of CW shows on digital platforms and how the industry has changed since she started in broadcast TV

    00:49

    Lori Openden on her advice for aspiring actors

    00:34

    Lori Openden on her mentors

    00:58

    Lori Openden on advice for people who want to go into casting - learn the business side

    00:35

    Lori Openden on paying attention to demographics at the CW

    00:31

    Women

    Lori Openden on the casting field being predominately women

    01:12

    Casting Director

    Lori Openden on how she learned to become critical of performances from her early experiences of casting Barney Miller, and on how she would find talent

    03:04

    Lori Openden on what she likes about casting

    00:38

    Lori Openden on changes in the casting industry over the years from the time she worked on Hill Street Blues to current day

    03:12

    Lori Openden on the audition process and when the network typically weighs in

    01:12

    Lori Openden on what she looked at when hiring casting executives and her team at NBC

    01:19

    Lori Openden on differences between being a casting director and a network casting executive

    03:02

    Lori Openden on chemistry and lack of chemistry between actors and how it can help or hurt a show

    02:30

    Lori Openden on the process of auditioning kids

    01:14

    Lori Openden on the hardest type of role to cast - leading men

    00:59

    Lori Openden on the differences between a character actor versus leading man

    01:03

    Executives

    Lori Openden on differences between being a casting director and a network casting executive

    03:02

    Lori Openden on how involved NBC executives were with casting decisions when she was at the network, and on the then-current involvement of networks in casting

    02:08

    Lori Openden on not visiting sets much as a casting executive at NBC

    01:09

    Lori Openden on becoming a casting consultant and then executive at UPN

    03:12

    Lori Openden on her casting strategy at the CW

    01:37

    Lori Openden on a typical day for her as head of casting for the CW

    01:15

    Talent Professionals

    Lori Openden on how she learned to become critical of performances from her early experiences of casting Barney Miller, and on how she would find talent

    03:04

    Lori Openden on what she likes about casting

    00:38

    Lori Openden on changes in the casting industry over the years from the time she worked on Hill Street Blues to current day

    03:12

    Lori Openden on the audition process and when the network typically weighs in

    01:12

    Lori Openden on what she looked at when hiring casting executives and her team at NBC

    01:19

    Lori Openden on differences between being a casting director and a network casting executive

    03:02

    Lori Openden on chemistry and lack of chemistry between actors and how it can help or hurt a show

    02:30

    Lori Openden on the process of auditioning kids

    01:14

    Lori Openden on the hardest type of role to cast - leading men

    00:59

    Lori Openden on the differences between a character actor versus leading man

    01:03

    Television Executive

    Lori Openden on differences between being a casting director and a network casting executive

    03:02

    Lori Openden on how involved NBC executives were with casting decisions when she was at the network, and on the then-current involvement of networks in casting

    02:08

    Lori Openden on not visiting sets much as a casting executive at NBC

    01:09

    Lori Openden on becoming a casting consultant and then executive at UPN

    03:12

    Lori Openden on her casting strategy at the CW

    01:37

    Lori Openden on a typical day for her as head of casting for the CW

    01:15

    Comedy Series

    Lori Openden on getting hired as a secretary on Barnery Miller and getting hired in casting

    08:20

    Lori Openden on casting the Barnery Miller spin-off, FIsh

    01:17

    Lori Openden on casting Cheers, starting in season three of the series

    05:34

    Lori Openden on the success of Saved by the Bell

    00:41

    Lori Openden on casting Seinfeld

    04:00

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air

    02:16

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Mad About You

    00:28

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Frasier

    03:20

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Friends

    05:55

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting the main cast and guest stars on Will & Grace

    05:02

    Lori Openden on being the casting director on the sitcom Bette

    00:44

    Lori Openden on being the casting director on 8 Simple Rules ... for Dating My Teenage Daughter

    01:46

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Everybody Hates Chris

    00:42

    Drama Series

    Lori Openden on casting The White Shadow

    03:56

    Lori Openden on casting Hill Street Blues

    09:10

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Law & Order: Special Victims Unit

    00:45

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Freaks and Geeks

    02:10

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting The West Wing

    03:11

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Kristen Bell on Veronica Mars

    02:19

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Gossip Girl

    01:22

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting The Vampire Diaries

    01:32

    Lori Openden on casting Stephen Amell on Arrow

    00:39

    Lori Openden on casting Grant Gustin on The Flash

    00:26

    Lori Openden on casting Ruby Rose on Batwoman

    00:42

    Lori Openden on Supergirl moving from CBS to the CW

    00:28

    Lori Openden on casting Black Lightning

    00:47

    Lori Openden on casting Riverdale

    03:04

    Lori Openden on casting Jane the Virgin

    03:06

    Lori Openden on casting the CW reboot of Dynasty

    00:41

    Lori Openden on casting the CW reboot of Charmed

    01:42

    Lori Openden on casting the CW show All American

    02:43

    Lori Openden on casting the CW show Nancy Drew

    00:42

    Lori Openden on casting the CW show In the Dark

    00:35

    Legal Dramas

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting L.A. Law

    02:07

    Lori Openden on her (non) involvement in casting the pilot of Law & Order and adding talent to the show over the years

    02:11

    Lori Openden on being the casting director on the drama First Monday

    00:20

    Medical Dramas

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting ER

    05:05

    Jason Alexander

    Lori Openden on casting Seinfeld

    00:55

    Kirstie Alley

    Lori Openden on Shelley Long's departure from Cheers and Kirstie Alley joining the show

    00:33

    Stephen Amell

    Lori Openden on casting Stephen Amell on Arrow

    00:39

    Jennifer Aniston

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Jennifer Aniston on Friends

    01:33

    Lori Openden on Jennifer Aniston playing "Rachel" instead of "Monica" on Friends

    00:17

    Lori Openden on why she believed Jennifer Aniston was meant to be a star

    01:22

    Danny Arnold

    Lori Openden on learning about casting from Danny Arnold on Barney Miller

    00:14

    Lori Openden on Danny Arnold's input on casting Barney Miller

    00:34

    Justin Baldoni

    Lori Openden on casting Justin Baldoni on Jane the Virgin

    00:27

    Kristen Bell

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Kristen Bell on Veronica Mars

    01:07

    Steven Bochco

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting L.A. Law with Steven Bochco

    02:07

    James Burrows

    Lori Openden on James Burrows taking the cast of Friends to Las Vegas before the show aired

    00:30

    Thomas Carter

    Lori Openden on casting The White Shadow, and on many of the actors learning to direct on the show, including Timothy Van Patten, Thomas Carter, and Kevin Hooks

    01:37

    George Clooney

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting George Clooney in his breakout role on ER

    02:25

    Enrico Colantoni

    Lori Openden on Kristen Bell and Enrico Colantoni on Veronica Mars

    00:34

    Nicholas Colasanto

    Lori Openden on Nicholas Colasanto passing away and casting Woody Harrelson on Cheers

    00:43

    Courteney Cox

    Lori Openden on Courteney Cox joining the cast of Friends

    00:18

    Taye Diggs

    Lori Openden on casting Taye Diggs on the CW show All American

    00:28

    Anthony Edwards

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Anthony Edwards on ER

    00:12

    Daniel Ezra

    Lori Openden on casting Daniel Ezra on the CW show All American

    00:28

    James Garner

    Lori Openden on John Ritter's death and bringing James Garner on to 8 Simple Rules ... for Dating My Teenage Daughter

    00:38

    Kelsey Grammer

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Frasier

    00:33

    Grant Gustin

    Lori Openden on casting Grant Gustin on The Flash

    00:26

    Charles Haid

    Lori Openden on casting Charles Haid on Hill Street Blues

    00:28

    Mariska Hargitay

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Mariska Hargitay on Law & Order

    00:44

    Woody Harrelson

    Lori Openden on Nicholas Colasanto passing away and casting Woody Harrelson on Cheers

    00:43

    Sean Hayes

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Sean Hayes on Will & Grace

    00:51

    Kevin Hooks

    Lori Openden on casting The White Shadow, and on many of the actors learning to direct on the show, including Timothy Van Patten, Thomas Carter, and Kevin Hooks

    01:37

    Peter Horton

    Lori Openden on casting Peter Horton as a guest star The White Shadow

    00:25

    Quincy Jones

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air

    01:50

    Lisa Kudrow

    Lori Openden on Lisa Kudrow being in the original cast of Frasier

    00:59

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Lisa Kudrow on Friends

    00:09

    Jane Leeves

    Lori Openden on Jane Leeves getting cast on Frasier

    00:21

    Hal Linden

    Lori Openden on Hal Linden's performance on Barney Miller

    00:13

    Warren Littlefield

    Lori Openden on working with Warren Littlefield and Brandon Tartikoff at NBC

    01:24

    Shelley Long

    Lori Openden on Shelley Long's departure from Cheers and Kirstie Alley joining the show

    00:33

    Julia Louis-Dreyfus

    Lori Openden on casting Julia Louis-Dreyfus on Seinfeld

    00:52

    Rick Ludwin

    Lori Openden on Rick Ludwin's enthusiasm for Seinfeld

    00:22

    Julianna Margulies

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Julianna Marguiles on ER

    00:27

    Eric McCormack

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Erick McCormack on Will & Grace

    00:54

    Christopher Meloni

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Christopher Meloni on Law & Order

    00:44

    Debra Messing

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Debra Messing on Will & Grace

    01:11

    Bette Midler

    Lori Openden on being the casting director on the sitcom Bette

    00:44

    Shelley Morrison

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Shelley Morrison on Will & Grace

    00:39

    Megan Mullally

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Megan Mullally on Will & Grace

    00:12

    Bruce Paltrow

    Lori Openden on Bruce Paltrow giving several of the actors on The White Shadow the opportunity to direct

    01:09

    Lori Openden on working with Bruce Paltrow on casting The White Shadow

    01:16

    Matthew Perry

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Matthew Perry on Friends

    00:20

    Luke Perry

    Lori Openden on casting the parents on Riverdale

    00:32

    David Hyde Pierce

    Lori Openden on David Hyde Pierce getting cast on Frasier

    00:27

    Michael Richards

    Lori Openden on casting Michael Richards on Seinfeld

    00:54

    John Ritter

    Lori Openden on being the casting director on 8 Simple Rules ... for Dating My Teenage Daughter, and on John Ritter's sudden death

    01:04

    Gina Rodriguez

    Lori Openden on casting Gina Rodriguez on Jane the Virgin

    00:59

    Lori Openden on Gina Rodriguez winning the CW's first Golden Globe for Jane the Virgin

    01:15

    Ruby Rose

    Lori Openden on casting Ruby Rose on Batwoman

    01:09

    Eriq La Salle

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Eriq La Salle on ER

    01:16

    David Schwimmer

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting David Schwimmer on Friends

    00:10

    Jerry Seinfeld

    Lori Openden on casting Seinfeld

    00:55

    Martin Sheen

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Martin Sheen on The West Wing

    00:33

    Will Smith

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air

    01:50

    Jimmy Smits

    Lori Openden on her involvement in casting Jimmy Smits on L.A. Law

    00:22

    Aaron Sorkin

    Lori Openden on working with Aaron Sorkin on The West Wing

    00:32

    Brandon Tartikoff

    Lori Openden on working with Warren Littlefield and Brandon Tartikoff at NBC

    00:24

    Lori Openden on casting Michael Richards on Seinfeld

    00:54

    Grant Tinker

    Lori Openden on casting Bruce Weitz on Hill Street Blues

    00:57

    Beth Uffner

    Lori Openden on working with and learning from casting director Beth Uffner on Barney Miller

    01:12

    Timothy Van Patten

    Lori Openden on casting The White Shadow, and on many of the actors learning to direct on the show, including Timothy Van Patten, Thomas Carter, and Kevin Hooks

    01:37

    Bruce Weitz

    Lori Openden on casting Bruce Weitz on Hill Street Blues

    00:57

    Cress Williams

    Lori Openden on casting Black Lightning

    00:47

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