"I think the legacy [of The West Wing] is that a group of people can raise the bar as high as they want in television, and can maintain it if all their energy just goes to making it great. Somebody once said, 'Well, all shows can't be as good as The West Wing,' but I don't know why all shows can't be as good as The West Wing. If West Wing can do it other shows can do it, too."

    About This Interview

    In his three-and-a-half-hour interview, Thomas Schlamme discusses his early life and how he chose directing over working in his father's business. He talks about his interest in sports and theater during high school and describes his first jobs in advertising, commercials, and music videos. He shares how his stint in advertising led to directing several television specials in the early 1980s, and discusses directing It's Garry Shandling's Show and how the show's writers would work into the wee hours of the morning on scripts. He recalls directing The Wonder Years, Mad About You, Friends, and several David E. Kelley-produced shows. He gives his perspective on directing for two competing medical dramas: ER and Chicago Hope, speaks fondly about working with Tracey Ullman on her series Tracey Takes On…, and recalls his difficult experience on the feature film So I Married an Axe Murderer. Schlamme then details working with Aaron Sorkin on the series Sports Night, The West Wing, and Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip. He describes the "walk and talk" filming technique that has been employed on each of these series, the casting of The West Wing and his work with the ensemble, and the challenges of shooting a show within a show on Studio 60. Stephen J. Abramson conducted the interview on December 19, 2006 in Burbank, CA. 

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Chapter 1

    On his early life; on early television memories; on college and early career aspirations

    17:55

    On working at an advertising agency; on moving to New York City; on creating animated commercials and commercials for Broadway shows

    11:32

    Chapter 2

    On directing music videos; on working with Bette Midler and Whoopi Goldberg; on directing It's Garry Shandling's Show

    17:44

    On directing Mad About You;  on directing comedy for television; on his wife, actress Christine Lahti; on directing children on The Wonder Years

    11:28

    Chapter 3

    On directing his friend Brent Spiner in several projects; on directing Chicago Hope;  on directing large ensemble casts

    16:16

    On David E. Kelley; on directing Ally McBeal; on directing Friends

    12:07

    Chapter 4

    On directing Friends and Tracey Takes On; on directing the feature film "So I Married an Axe Murderer"; on directing Spin City and ER

    16:30

    On directing Sports Night;  on Sports Night's laugh track; on winning Emmy Awards

    11:55

    Chapter 5

    On the genesis of The West Wing  and the cancellation of Sports Night; on the "walk and talk"

    13:44

    On the set of and casting The West Wing;  on significant episodes of The West Wing;  on The West Wing and the Clinton White House

    15:06

    Chapter 6

    On shooting The West Wing in Washington, DC; on his role as executive producer on The West Wing;  on Aaron Sorkin's writing process

    13:38

    On Aaron Sorkin's arrest; on the cast of The West Wing;  on leaving The West Wing and the end of the series

    15:15

    Chapter 7

    On The West Wing and 9/11; on creating Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip; on the challenges of Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip

    13:09

    On casting and directing the pilot for Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip;  on technological innovations in television; on advice to aspiring directors

    14:20

    Ally McBeal

    Thomas Schlamme on directing Ally McBeal

    02:49

    Thomas Schlamme on his disappointment with the condensed versions of Ally McBeal

    00:52

    Chicago Hope

    Thomas Schlamme on how he came to direct Chicago Hope

    05:31

    Thomas Schlamme on directing an ensemble cast in Chicago Hope

    01:24

    Democratic National Convention

    Thomas Schlamme on watching the 1968 Chicago Democratic Convention with his father

    00:50

    ER

    Thomas Schlamme on directing "Ambush", a live episode of ER

    03:16

    Friends

    Thomas Schlamme on directing Friends

    02:24

    Thomas Schlamme on directing the "The One with the Lesbian Wedding" episode of Friends

    01:39

    It's Garry Shandling's Show.

    Thomas Schlamme on how he came to direct It's Garry Shandling's Show

    01:50

    Thomas Schlamme on directing It's Garry Shandling's Show

    03:35

    Mad About You

    Thomas Schlamme on directing Mad About You

    02:01

    Practice, The (1997-2004)

    Thomas Schlamme on directing John Larroquette in The Practice

    02:45

    Spin City

    Thomas Schlamme on directing the pilot for Spin City

    01:06

    Sports Night

    Thomas Schlamme on how he came to direct Sports Night

    03:14

    Thomas Schlamme on the process of directing Sports Night

    03:39

    Thomas Schlamme on doing away with the laugh track on Sports Night

    03:11

    Thomas Schlamme on the cancellation of Sports Night

    02:59

    Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip

    Thomas Schlamme on creating Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip

    02:28

    Thomas Schlamme on creating the main characters on Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip

    01:52

    Thomas Schlamme on the show within a show on Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip

    01:12

    Thomas Schlamme on casting Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip

    02:51

    Thomas Schlamme on directing the pilot for Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip

    02:07

    Thomas Schlamme on Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip ratings

    02:59

    Tracey Takes On ...

    Thomas Schlamme on directing Tracey Ullman on Tracey Takes On ...

    03:47

    West Wing, The

    Thomas Schlamme on the genesis of The West Wing

    04:30

    Thomas Schlamme on how visiting the White House informed his directing of The West Wing

    02:43

    Thomas Schlamme on the "Take the Sabbath Day" episode of The West Wing

    03:10

    Thomas Schlamme on casting The West Wing

    05:06

    Thomas Schlamme on the set of The West Wing

    01:27

    Thomas Schlamme on directing "walk and talk" shots on Aaron Sorkin's shows

    03:29

    Thomas Schlamme on shooting The West Wing in Washington, DC

    03:19

    Thomas Schlamme on his role in Aaron Sorkin's writing process on The West Wing

    02:59

    Thomas Schlamme on Aaron Sorkin's writing process on The West Wing

    03:00

    Thomas Schlamme on the cast of The West Wing

    03:32

    Thomas Schlamme on the end of The West Wing

    02:35

    Thomas Schlamme on the rise and fall of the ratings of The West Wing

    03:30

    Thomas Schlamme on The West Wing and 9/11

    06:01

    Thomas Schlamme on the legacy of The West Wing

    01:36

    Wonder Years, The

    Thomas Schlamme on directing children on The Wonder Years

    01:23

    9/11

    Thomas Schlamme on the rise and fall of the ratings of The West Wing

    03:30

    Thomas Schlamme on The West Wing and 9/11

    06:01

    Bill Clinton

    Thomas Schlamme on The West Wing and the Clinton White House

    01:51

    Characters & Catchphrases

    Thomas Schlamme on Martin Sheen as "President Josiah 'Jed' Bartlet" on The West Wing

    01:59

    Emmy Awards

    Thomas Schlamme on winning Emmys for Tracey Takes On and Sports Night

    01:51

    Memorable Moments on Television

    Thomas Schlamme on watching the 1968 Chicago Democratic Convention with his father

    00:50

    Pop Culture

    Thomas Schlamme on Martin Sheen as "President Josiah 'Jed' Bartlet" on The West Wing

    01:59

    Technological Innovation

    Thomas Schlamme on then-new delivery methods for television

    04:07

    Television and the Presidency

    Thomas Schlamme on The West Wing and the Clinton White House

    01:51

    Television Industry

    Thomas Schlamme on the hierarchy of television

    01:55

    We Considered

    Thomas Schlamme on watching the 1968 Chicago Democratic Convention with his father

    00:50

    Animation Professionals

    Thomas Schlamme on animating television commercials

    02:30

    Animator

    Thomas Schlamme on animating television commercials

    02:30

    Directors

    Thomas Schlamme on directing comedy

    01:41

    Thomas Schlamme on directing It's Garry Shandling's Show

    03:35

    Thomas Schlamme on directing large ensemble casts

    04:44

    Thomas Schlamme on directing Ally McBeal

    02:49

    Thomas Schlamme on the process of directing Sports Night

    03:39

    Thomas Schlamme on directing "Ambush", a live episode of ER

    03:16

    Thomas Schlamme on directing "walk and talk" shots

    03:29

    Thomas Schlamme on how visiting the White House informed his directing of The West Wing

    02:43

    Thomas Schlamme on advice to aspiring directors

    02:16

    Thomas Schlamme on directing the pilot for Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip

    02:07

    Producers

    Thomas Schlamme on his role as executive producer on The West Wing

    02:13

    Comedy Series

    Thomas Schlamme on directing It's Garry Shandling's Show

    03:35

    Thomas Schlamme on directing Mad About You

    02:01

    Thomas Schlamme on directing children in The Wonder Years

    01:23

    Thomas Schlamme on directing Ally McBeal

    02:49

    Thomas Schlamme on directing Friends

    02:24

    Thomas Schlamme on directing Tracey Takes On

    03:47

    Thomas Schlamme on the process of directing Sports Night

    04:09

    Drama Series

    Thomas Schlamme on directing "Ambush", a live episode of ER

    03:16

    Thomas Schlamme on the genesis of The West Wing

    04:30

    Thomas Schlamme on casting The West Wing

    05:06

    Thomas Schlamme on The West Wing  and the Clinton White House

    01:51

    Thomas Schlamme on shooting The West Wing  in Washington, DC

    03:19

    Thomas Schlamme on the cast of The West Wing

    03:32

    Thomas Schlamme on Aaron Sorkin's writing process on The West Wing

    03:00

    Thomas Schlamme on the legacy of The West Wing

    01:36

    Thomas Schlamme on creating Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip

    02:28

    Medical Dramas

    Thomas Schlamme on directing the ensemble cast in Chicago Hope

    01:24

    Music Shows & Variety Shows/Specials

    Thomas Schlamme on directing Whoopi Goldberg's HBO special Whoopi Goldberg: Direct from Broadway

    05:39

    Thomas Schlamme on directing Bette Midler's HBO special Art or Bust

    03:55

    Whoopi Goldberg

    Thomas Schlamme on directing Whoopi Goldberg's HBO special Whoopi Goldberg: Direct from Broadway

    05:39

    Christine Lahti

    Thomas Schlamme on meeting and marrying actress Christine Lahti

    03:44

    John Larroquette

    Thomas Schlamme on directing John Larroquette in The Practice

    02:45

    Rob Lowe

    Thomas Schlamme on Rob Lowe leaving and returning to The West Wing

    01:35

    Janel Maloney

    Thomas Schlamme on Janel Maloney as "Donna Moss" on The West Wing

    01:05

    Bette Midler

    Thomas Schlamme on directing Bette Midler's HBO special Art or Bust

    03:55

    Mike Myers

    Thomas Schlamme on directing Mike Myers in "So I Married an Axe Murderer"

    04:34

    Mike Nichols

    Thomas Schlamme on his relationship with director Mike Nichols

    05:39

    Garry Shandling

    Thomas Schlamme on Garry Shandling's comic dexterity  

    01:10

    Martin Sheen

    Thomas Schlamme on Martin Sheen as "President Josiah 'Jed' Bartlet" on The West Wing

    01:59

    Aaron Sorkin

    Thomas Schlamme on meeting Aaron Sorkin

    03:14

    Thomas Schlamme on directing "walk and talk" shots on Aaron Sorkin's shows

    03:29

    Thomas Schlamme on his role in Aaron Sorkin's writing process on The West Wing

    02:59

    Thomas Schlamme on Aaron Sorkin's writing process on The West Wing

    03:00

    Thomas Schlamme on Aaron Sorkin's arrest

    04:03

    John Spencer

    Thomas Schlamme on John Spencer as "Leo McGarry" on The West Wing

    01:13

    Brent Spiner

    Thomas Schlamme on directing childhood friend Brent Spiner

    02:02

    Tracey Ullman

    Thomas Schlamme on directing Tracey Ullman on Tracey Takes On ...

    03:47

    John Wells

    Thomas Schlamme on John Wells role on The West Wing

    02:07

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