"Fred Silverman went to my brother and said, 'Got any spin-offs?' He didn't, but he said, 'Well, there's these two girl bottle cappers in Milwaukee from 'Happy Days'…' 'Good, let's do it!' That was around Thanksgiving. We went to work in December and 'Laverne & Shirley' was on the air in January, the number one show on television."

    About This Interview

    In the two-hour solo portion of her interview, Penny Marshall (1943-2018) talks about her childhood, which included appearing as a child dancer on many shows, and her early acting career, which included a Head & Shoulders commercial with Farrah Fawcett and being considered to play "Gloria Bunker" opposite then-husband Rob Reiner on All in the Family before Sally Struthers was cast. She describes playing "Myrna Turner" opposite Jack Klugman and Tony Randall for her brother, executive producer Garry Marshall's show, The Odd Couple. She recalls being cast as "Laverne DeFazio" opposite Cindy Williams as "Shirley Feeney" on Laverne & Shirley, and talks of various aspects of that show including the physical comedy, the writing, its popularity, and Williams leaving before the run was over. Marshall discusses her career as a feature film director which included directing BigAwakenings, A League of Their Own, The Preacher's Wife, and Riding in Cars with Boys. She speaks of her autobiography My Mother Was Nuts and concludes the solo portion of her interview with advice to aspiring actors and directors and discussing her legacy in the entertainment business. 

    In the hour-and-a-half joint portion of their interview, Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall outline how they met and began writing together. They speak of how Laverne & Shirley came about, and Williams' initial hesitancy to commit to the series. They chronicle the show's physical comedy bits, their on-screen chemistry, and their co-stars, including Michael McKean and David L. Lander as "Lenny" and "Squiggy." They detail various reunion shows, reuniting on the series Sam & Cat, and their friendship over the years.  Amy Harrington conducted the interviews on August 7, 2013 in Hollywood, CA.

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    Penny Marshall on doing physical comedy on Laverne & Shirley

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    Penny Marshall on directing the feature "Big"

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    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on their chemistry on Laverne & Shirley

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    Penny Marshall on her proudest achievement and biggest regret 

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    Chapter 1

    On her early life and influences; on appearing on early television dance shows; on television she watched growing up and her early acting career

    13:48

    On being considered to play "Gloria Bunker" on All in the Family; on appearing on Then Came Bronson and getting the part of "Myrna Turner" on The Odd Couple; l on working with Jack Klugman on The Odd Couple; on guest-starring on The Bob Newhart Show, The Mary Tyler Moore Show, and Saturday Night Live

    16:09

    On auditioning actresses to play "Shirley Feeney" on Laverne & Shirley; on the character of "Laverne DeFazio" on Laverne & Shirley;  on doing physical comedy on Laverne & Shirley

    04:48

    On the writing on Laverne & Shirley; on Laverne & Shirley becoming the number one show on television; on directing episodes of Laverne & Shirley

    07:26

    On Cindy Williams leaving Laverne & Shirley and the end of the show; on guest-starring on several series after the end of Laverne & Shirley; on working with her brother Garry Marshall

    09:22

    On appearing in the made-for-television movie Love Thy Neighbor with John Ritter; on what she liked about acting

    06:08

    Chapter 2

    On directing the feature "Jumpin' Jack Flash"; on learning the process of directing feature films; on directing the features "Big," "Awakenings," "A League of Their Own," and "Renaissance Man"

    13:35

    On directing the features "The Preacher's Wife," "Riding in Cars with Boys," and dealing with 9/11; on filming a documentary about Dennis Rodman; on various episodes television episodes; on how being an actress helped her as a director

    10:10

    On her autobiography "My Mother Was Nuts"; on what draws her to directing a project; on how celebrity has affected her

    05:38

    On what fans would be surprised to know about her; on then-current television she watches; on her proudest achievement and biggest regret; on her legacy in the entertainment business 

    13:17

    Chapter 3

    START OF JOINT INTERVIEW WITH CINDY WILLIAMS: on how they met; on writing together; on how Laverne & Shirley came about; on introducing the characters of "Laverne DeFazio" and "Shirley Feeney" on Happy Days and the first episode of Laverne & Shirley

    12:21

    On Cindy Williams' New York accent on the early episodes of Laverne & Shirley; on the various elements of Laverne & Shirley

    07:25

    On the physical comedy of Laverne & Shirley; on their chemistry on Laverne & Shirley

    18:16

    On the similarities between "Laverne DeFazio" and "Shirley Feeney" and themselves and the male guest stars of Laverne & Shirley; on the cast of Laverne & Shirley

    07:27

    On the atmosphere on the set of Laverne & Shirley; on working with Garry Marshall on Laverne & Shirley; on the theme song and opening credits to Laverne & Shirley

    08:23

    On Laverne & Shirley changing its setting to Hollywood; on the merchandising of Laverne & Shirley

    03:26

    Chapter 4

    On the Laverne & Shirley animated series; on doing promotion for Laverne & Shirley; on doing Laverne & Shirley reunion shows

    06:04

    On their favorite episodes of Laverne & Shirley; on the legacy of Laverne & Shirley; on reuniting on the series Sam & Cat, and their friendship over the years

    13:47

    All in the Family

    Penny Marshall on being considered to play "Gloria Bunker" on All in the Family

    01:01

    Bob Newhart Show, The (1972-78)

    Penny Marshall on guest-starring on The Bob Newhart Show and The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    01:21

    Happy Days

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on introducing the characters of "Laverne DeFazio" and "Shirley Feeney" on Happy Days

    01:00

    Laverne & Shirley

    Penny Marshall on auditioning actresses to play "Shirley Feeney" on Laverne & Shirley

    01:52

    Penny Marshall on the character of "Laverne DeFazio" on Laverne & Shirley

    01:48

    Penny Marshall on doing physical comedy on Laverne & Shirley

    01:08

    Penny Marshall on the writing on Laverne & Shirley

    03:42

    Penny Marshall on Laverne & Shirley becoming the number one show on televison

    01:18

    Penny Marshall on directing episodes of Laverne & Shirley

    02:26

    Penny Marshall on Cindy Williams leaving Laverne & Shirley and the end of the show

    05:43

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on how Laverne & Shirley came about

    04:19

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on Cindy Williams' initial hesitancy to appear on Laverne & Shirley

    02:09

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on the first episode of Laverne & Shirley and early reaction to the show

    01:39

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on Cindy Williams' New York accent on the early episodes of Laverne & Shirley

    01:11

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on how the characters of "Laverne DeFazio" and "Shirley Feeney" changed in the transition from Happy Days to Laverne & Shirley and the wardrobe and set design of the show

    02:58

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on working on the set of Laverne & Shirley and how "milk and pepsi" came about

    01:42

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on what they brought to Laverne & Shirley from their own lives and the dancing on the show

    01:34

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on the physical comedy of Laverne & Shirley 

    03:23

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on the writing of Laverne & Shirley and their favorite physical bits from the show

    07:21

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on rehearsing the physical bits for Laverne & Shirley

    02:52

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on their chemistry on Laverne & Shirley

    04:40

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on the similarities between "Laverne DeFazio" and "Shirley Feeney" and themselves and the male guest stars of Laverne & Shirley

    03:31

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on working with Michael McKean and David L. Lander as "Lenny" and "Squiggy" on Laverne & Shirley

    02:34

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on Eddie Mekka as "Carmine 'The Big Ragu' Ragusa" on Laverne & Shirley 

    00:39

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on Phil Foster as "Frank DeFazio" on Laverne & Shirley

    00:43

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on the atmosphere on the set of Laverne & Shirley 

    04:30

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on working with Garry Marshall on Laverne & Shirley

    01:49

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on the theme song and opening credits to Laverne & Shirley

    02:04

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on Laverne & Shirley changing its setting to Hollywood

    02:10

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on the merchandising of Laverne & Shirley

    01:14

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on the Laverne & Shirley animated series

    01:02

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on doing promotion for Laverne & Shirley

    03:15

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on doing Laverne & Shirley reunion shows

    01:48

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on their favorite episodes of Laverne & Shirley

    02:18

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on the legacy of Laverne & Shirley 

    00:56

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on reuniting on the series Sam & Cat

    02:29

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on their friendship over the years

    08:04

    Odd Couple, The (1970-75)

    Penny Marshall on appearing on Then Came Bronson and getting the part of "Myrna Turner" on The Odd Couple

    02:39

    Penny Marshall on the character of "Myrna Turner" on The Odd Couple and getting comfortable in front of the camera

    01:30

    Penny Marshall on working with Jack Klugman on The Odd Couple

    00:44

    Penny Marshall on Rob Reiner guest-starring on The Odd Couple and working on Paul Sand in Friends and Lovers

    02:20

    Saturday Night Live

    Penny Marshall on appearing on Saturday Night Live

    06:34

    Then Came Bronson

    Penny Marshall on appearing on Then Came Bronson and getting the part of "Myrna Turner" on The Odd Couple

    02:39

    9/11

    Penny Marshall on directing the features "The Preacher's Wife," "Riding in Cars with Boys," and dealing with 9/11

    03:52

    Advice

    Penny Marshall on her advice to aspiring actors and directors

    03:40

    Characters & Catchphrases

    Penny Marshall on the character of "Laverne DeFazio" on Laverne & Shirley

    01:48

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on how the characters of "Laverne DeFazio" and "Shirley Feeney" changed in the transition from Happy Days  to Laverne & Shirley  and the wardrobe and set design of the show

    02:58

    Fame and Celebrity

    Penny Marshall on how celebrity has affected her

    02:24

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Penny Marshall on directing the features "The Preacher's Wife," "Riding in Cars with Boys," and dealing with 9/11

    03:52

    Pop Culture

    Penny Marshall on the character of "Laverne DeFazio" on Laverne & Shirley

    01:48

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on how the characters of "Laverne DeFazio" and "Shirley Feeney" changed in the transition from Happy Days  to Laverne & Shirley  and the wardrobe and set design of the show

    02:58

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on working on the set of Laverne & Shirley  and how "milk and pepsi" came about

    01:42

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on the theme song and opening credits to Laverne & Shirley

    02:04

    Television Industry

    Penny Marshall on how celebrity has affected her

    02:24

    Penny Marshall on her advice to aspiring actors and directors

    03:40

    TV Theme Songs

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on the theme song and opening credits to Laverne & Shirley

    02:04

    Actor

    Penny Marshall on what she liked about acting

    02:53

    Actress

    Penny Marshall on her advice to aspiring actors and directors

    03:40

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on performing the physical comedy of Laverne & Shirley

    13:36

    Performers

    Penny Marshall on her advice to aspiring actors and directors

    03:40

    Penny Marshall on what she liked about acting

    02:53

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on performing the physical comedy of Laverne & Shirley

    13:36

    Comedy Series

    Penny Marshall on playing "Myrna Turner" on The Odd Couple

    07:13

    Penny Marshall on playing "Laverne DeFazio" on Laverne & Shirley

    17:57

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on starring on Laverne & Shirley (Part 1)

    57:18

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on starring on Laverne & Shirley (Part 2)

    19:51

    Commercials

    Penny Marshall on her Head & Shoulders shampoo commercial with Farrah Fawcett

    00:56

    Music Shows & Variety Shows/Specials

    Penny Marshall on appearing on Saturday Night Live

    06:34

    TV Movies/Miniseries/Dramatic Specials

    Penny Marshall on appearing in the made-for-television movie Love Thy Neighbor  with John Ritter

    02:58

    Farrah Fawcett

    Penny Marshall on her Head & Shoulders shampoo commercial with Farrah Fawcett

    00:56

    Phil Foster

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on Phil Foster as "Frank DeFazio" on Laverne & Shirley

    00:43

    Jack Klugman

    Penny Marshall on working with Jack Klugman on The Odd Couple

    00:44

    David L. Lander

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on working with Michael McKean and David L. Lander as "Lenny" and "Squiggy" on Laverne & Shirley

    02:00

    Garry Marshall

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on working with Garry Marshall on Laverne & Shirley

    01:49

    Michael McKean

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on working with Michael McKean and David L. Lander as "Lenny and Squiggy" on Laverne & Shirley

    02:00

    Rob Reiner

    Penny Marshall on Rob Reiner guest-starring on The Odd Couple  and working on Paul Sand in Friends and Lovers

    02:20

    Cindy Williams

    Penny Marshall on Cindy Williams leaving Laverne & Shirley  and the end of the show

    05:43

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