"I went to see Wayne's World and suddenly they're doing a parody of Laverne & Shirley! I called Penny to tell her. She asks, 'How was it?' And I said, 'You will be simultaneously honored and humiliated.' And that was the spirit that those two characters really embodied. That's what I love about them."

    About This Interview

    In the two-hour solo portion of her interview, Cindy Williams (1947-2023) talks about her early years acting in high school and her first television work on Room 222 with director James L. Brooks. She describes her early film career, appearing in the critically acclaimed features American Graffiti directed by George Lucas and The Conversation directed by Francis Ford Coppola. She recounts being cast on Happy Days as "Shirley Feeney" along with her writing partner Penny Marshall as "Laverne DeFazio," and the characters quickly being spun off into their own series, Laverne & Shirley. Williams recalls many aspects of that show, including its humor, fan reaction, the fame that resulted from the show, and leaving the show in 1982 before its run was over. She discusses her post-Laverne & Shirley career, including appearing in the pilot for Steel Magnolias, the series Getting By, and appearing on Broadway in The Drowsy Chaperone. She concludes the solo portion of her interview by discussing her then-current projects, advice to aspiring actors, and her legacy in television. Nancy Harrington conducted the interview on August 7, 2013 in Hollywood, CA.

    In the hour-and-a-half joint portion of their interview, Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall (1943-2018) outline how they met and began writing together. They speak of how Laverne & Shirley came about, and Williams' initial hesitancy to commit to the series. They chronicle the show's physical comedy bits, their on-screen chemistry, and their co-stars, including Michael McKean and David L. Lander as "Lenny" and "Squiggy." They detail various reunion shows, reuniting on the series Sam & Cat, and their friendship over the years. Amy Harrington conducted the interview on August 7, 2013 in Hollywood, CA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Cindy Williams on her first appearance on Happy Days  and on working with the cast

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    Cindy Williams on "Shirley Feeney's" wardrobe on Laverne & Shirley

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    Cindy Williams on the effect the film "American Graffiti" had on her career and her fame

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    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on the theme song and opening credits to Laverne & Shirley

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    Cindy Williams on what she enjoys about acting

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    Chapter 1

    On her childhood and family; on finding humor early in life; on her early memories of television; on her early start in theater in high school when "the bug bit"

    07:47

    On her college years; on her early commercial work

    01:57

    On her first television appearance on Room 222; on working with director James L. Brooks; on The Funny Side with Gene Kelly

    05:53

    On being cast in the film "American Graffiti"; on working with George Lucas and Ron Howard; on what the film did for her career

    08:17

    On working on the film "The Conversation" directed by Francis Ford Coppola; on the television shows she worked on in the early 1970s

    04:15

    On auditioning for "Star Wars"; on where George Lucas came up with "Chewbacca"; on becoming a member of the Actors Studio West

    11:42

    On first appearing on Happy Days; on working with Ron Howard, Henry Winkler, and Penny Marshall

    04:23

    On how Laverne & Shirley came about; on the premise of the show and her character "Shirley Feeney"

    11:12

    Chapter 2

    On the character of "Shirley Feeney" on Laverne & Shirley; on "Laverne DeFazio" and "Shirley Feeney's" favorite song "High Hopes" on Laverne & Shirley;  on the humor of Laverne & Shirley

    11:07

    On how Laverne & Shirley represented '50's women; on working with Penny Marshall as "Laverne DeFazio" on Laverne & Shirley; on fan reaction to Laverne & Shirley and the fame that resulted from being on the show

    18:55

    On her schedule during the run of Laverne & Shirley; on her favorite Laverne & Shirley episodes; on directing an episode of Laverne & Shirley and the location of the show moving to Hollywood in season six; on leaving the show

    08:04

    On her immediate post-Laverne & Shirley career; on appearing in the pilot for Steel Magnolias; on appearing in the series Getting By

    09:36

    On appearing in the made-for-television movie The Stepford Husbands; on appearing on Broadway in "The Drowsy Chaperone"

    06:41

    Chapter 3

    On then-current projects; on what fans would be surprised to know about her and what fans say to her; on what she enjoys about acting

    06:51

    On how the television industry has changed since she started; on her proudest achievement and biggest regret; on advice to aspiring actors and her legacy on television 

    05:56

    Chapter 4

    START OF JOINT INTERVIEW WITH PENNY MARSHALL: on how they met; on writing together; on how Laverne & Shirley came about; on introducing the characters of "Laverne DeFazio" and "Shirley Feeney" on Happy Days and the first episode of Laverne & Shirley

    12:21

    On Cindy Williams' New York accent on the early episodes of Laverne & Shirley; on the various elements of Laverne & Shirley

    07:25

    On the physical comedy of Laverne & Shirley; on their chemistry on Laverne & Shirley

    18:16

    On the similarities between "Laverne DeFazio" and "Shirley Feeney" and themselves and the male guest stars of Laverne & Shirley; on the cast of Laverne & Shirley

    07:27

    On the atmosphere on the set of Laverne & Shirley; on working with Garry Marshall on Laverne & Shirley; on the theme song and opening credits to Laverne & Shirley

    08:23

    On Laverne & Shirley changing its setting to Hollywood; on the merchandising of Laverne & Shirley

    03:26

    Chapter 5

    On the Laverne & Shirley animated series; on doing promotion for Laverne & Shirley; on doing Laverne & Shirley reunion shows

    06:04

    On their favorite episodes of Laverne & Shirley; on the legacy of Laverne & Shirley; on reuniting on the series Sam & Cat, and their friendship over the years

    13:47

    Happy Days

    Cindy Williams on her first appearance on Happy Days  and on working with the cast

    04:23

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on introducing the characters of "Laverne DeFazio" and "Shirley Feeney" on Happy Days

    01:00

    Laverne & Shirley

    Cindy Williams on "Shirley Feeney"'s character and love life on Laverne & Shirley

    03:56

    Cindy Williams on her input on "Shirley Feeney" on Laverne & Shirley  and how "Boo Boo Kitty" came about

    02:04

    Cindy Williams on whether there were rules for her character "Shirley Feeney" on Laverne and Shirley

    01:04

    Cindy Williams on "Shirley Feeney's" wardrobe on Laverne & Shirley

    02:08

    Cindy Williams on "Laverne DeFazio" and "Shirley Feeney's" favorite song "High Hopes" on Laverne & Shirley

    00:45

    Cindy Williams on the humor of Laverne & Shirley

    01:10

    Cindy Williams on how Laverne & Shirley represented '50's women

    00:56

    Cindy Williams on working with Penny Marshall on the physical comedy of Laverne & Shirley

    04:37

    Cindy Williams on working with Penny Marshall as "Laverne DeFazio" on Laverne & Shirley

    05:20

    Cindy Williams on fan reaction to Laverne & Shirley and the fame that resulted from being on the show

    08:02

    Cindy Williams on her schedule during the run of Laverne & Shirley

    00:47

    Cindy Williams on her favorite Laverne & Shirley episodes

    03:19

    Cindy Williams on directing an episode of Laverne & Shirley

    01:55

    Cindy Williams on "Laverne DeFazio" and "Shirley Feeney" moving to Hollywood in season six of Laverne & Shirley

    00:45

    Cindy Williams on leaving Laverne & Shirley

    01:16

    Cindy Williams on her Laverne & Shirley  character "Shirley Feeney"

    10:03

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on how Laverne & Shirley came about

    04:19

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on Cindy Williams' initial hesitancy to appear on Laverne & Shirley

    02:09

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on the first episode of Laverne & Shirley and early reaction to the show

    01:39

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on Cindy Williams' New York accent on the early episodes of Laverne & Shirley

    01:11

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on how the characters of "Laverne DeFazio" and "Shirley Feeney" changed in the transition from Happy Days to Laverne & Shirley and the wardrobe and set design of the show

    02:58

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on working on the set of Laverne & Shirley and how "milk and pepsi" came about

    01:42

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on what they brought to Laverne & Shirley from their own lives and the dancing on the show

    01:34

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on the physical comedy of Laverne & Shirley 

    03:23

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on the writing of Laverne & Shirley and their favorite physical bits from the show

    07:21

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on rehearsing the physical bits for Laverne & Shirley

    02:52

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on their chemistry on Laverne & Shirley

    04:40

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on the similarities between "Laverne DeFazio" and "Shirley Feeney" and themselves and the male guest stars of Laverne & Shirley

    03:31

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on working with Michael McKean and David L. Lander as "Lenny" and "Squiggy" on Laverne & Shirley

    02:34

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on Eddie Mekka as "Carmine 'The Big Ragu' Ragusa" on Laverne & Shirley 

    00:39

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on Phil Foster as "Frank DeFazio" on Laverne & Shirley

    00:43

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on the atmosphere on the set of Laverne & Shirley 

    04:30

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on working with Garry Marshall on Laverne & Shirley

    01:49

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on the theme song and opening credits to Laverne & Shirley

    02:04

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on Laverne & Shirley changing its setting to Hollywood

    02:10

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on the merchandising of Laverne & Shirley

    01:14

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on the Laverne & Shirley animated series

    01:02

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on doing promotion for Laverne & Shirley

    03:15

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on doing Laverne & Shirley reunion shows

    01:48

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on their favorite episodes of Laverne & Shirley

    02:18

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on the legacy of Laverne & Shirley 

    00:56

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on reuniting on the series Sam & Cat

    02:29

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on their friendship over the years

    08:04

    Room 222

    Cindy Williams on her first television appearance on Room 222  and working with director James L. Brooks

    01:27

    Advice

    Cindy Williams on advice to aspiring actors

    01:12

    Characters & Catchphrases

    Cindy Williams on "Shirley Feeney"'s character and love life on Laverne & Shirley

    03:56

    Cindy Williams on her input on "Shirley Feeney" on Laverne & Shirley  and how "Boo Boo Kitty" came about

    02:04

    Cindy Williams on her Laverne & Shirley  character "Shirley Feeney"

    10:08

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on how the characters of "Laverne DeFazio" and "Shirley Feeney" changed in the transition from Happy Days  to Laverne & Shirley  and the wardrobe and set design of the show

    02:58

    Fame and Celebrity

    Cindy Williams on fan reaction to Laverne & Shirley  and the fame that resulted from being on the show 

    08:02

    First Big Break

    Cindy Williams on the effect the film "American Graffiti" had on her career and her fame

    00:55

    Pivotal Career Moments

    Cindy Williams on the effect the film "American Graffiti" had on her career and her fame

    00:55

    Pop Culture

    Cindy Williams on "Shirley Feeney"'s character and love life on Laverne & Shirley

    03:56

    Cindy Williams on her input on "Shirley Feeney" on Laverne & Shirley  and how "Boo Boo Kitty" came about

    02:04

    Cindy Williams on "Laverne DeFazio" and "Shirley Feeney's" favorite song "High Hopes" on Laverne & Shirley

    00:45

    Cindy Williams on her Laverne & Shirley  character "Shirley Feeney"

    10:08

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on how the characters of "Laverne DeFazio" and "Shirley Feeney" changed in the transition from Happy Days  to Laverne & Shirley  and the wardrobe and set design of the show

    02:58

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on working on the set of Laverne & Shirley  and how "milk and pepsi" came about

    01:42

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on the theme song and opening credits to Laverne & Shirley

    02:04

    Television Industry

    Cindy Williams on fan reaction to Laverne & Shirley  and the fame that resulted from being on the show

    08:02

    Cindy Williams on how the television industry has changed since she started

    02:18

    Cindy Williams on advice to aspiring actors

    01:12

    TV Theme Songs

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on the theme song and opening credits to Laverne & Shirley

    02:04

    Actress

    Cindy Williams on working with Penny Marhsall on the physical comedy of Laverne & Shirley

    04:37

    Cindy Williams on what she enjoys about acting

    02:17

    Cindy Williams on advice to aspiring actors

    01:12

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on performing the physical comedy of Laverne & Shirley

    13:36

    Performers

    Cindy Williams on working with Penny Marhsall on the physical comedy of Laverne & Shirley

    04:37

    Cindy Williams on what she enjoys about acting

    02:17

    Cindy Williams on advice to aspiring actors

    01:12

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on performing the physical comedy of Laverne & Shirley

    13:36

    Comedy Series

    Cindy Williams on playing "Shirley Feeney" on Laverne & Shirley  (Part 2)

    38:04

    Cindy Williams on appearing in the series Getting By

    01:05

    Cindy Williams on her first television appearance on Room 222  and working with director James L. Brooks

    01:27

    Cindy Williams on playing "Shirley Feeney" on Happy Days

    04:24

    Cindy Williams on playing "Shirley Feeney" on Laverne & Shirley (Part 1)

    11:13

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on starring on Laverne & Shirley (Part 1)

    57:18

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on starring on Laverne & Shirley (Part 2)

    19:51

    TV Movies/Miniseries/Dramatic Specials

    Cindy Williams on appearing in the made-for-television movie The Stepford Husbands

    00:55

    James L. Brooks

    Cindy Williams on her first television appearance on Room 222  and working with director James L. Brooks

    01:27

    Francis Ford Coppola

    Cindy Williams on working on the film "The Conversation," directed by Francis Ford Coppola

    01:10

    Cindy Williams on working again with Francis Ford Coppola and being teamed up with Penny Marshall

    03:11

    Phil Foster

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on Phil Foster as "Frank DeFazio" on Laverne & Shirley

    00:43

    Ron Howard

    Cindy Williams on working with actor Ron Howard on the film "American Graffiti"

    02:07

    Cindy Williams on reuniting with her "American Graffiti" co-star Ron Howard when she first appeared on Happy Days

    01:09

    Gene Kelly

    Cindy Williams on her appearances on the hour-long musical show The Funny Side with host Gene Kelly

    02:22

    David L. Lander

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on working with Michael McKean and David L. Lander as "Lenny" and "Squiggy" on Laverne & Shirley

    02:00

    George Lucas

    Cindy Williams on working with George Lucas on "American Graffiti" and his directing style on that movie

    02:24

    Garry Marshall

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on working with Garry Marshall on Laverne & Shirley

    01:49

    Penny Marshall

    Cindy Williams on working with Penny Marshall on the physical comedy of Laverne & Shirley

    04:38

    Cindy Williams on working with Penny Marshall as "Laverne DeFazio" on Laverne & Shirley

    05:20

    Cindy Williams on working again with Francis Ford Coppola and being teamed up with Penny Marshall

    03:11

    Michael McKean

    Cindy Williams and Penny Marshall on working with Michael McKean and David L. Lander as "Lenny and Squiggy" on Laverne & Shirley

    02:00

    Henry Winkler

    Cindy Williams on her Happy Days  co-star Henry Winkler

    00:16

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