“Your job as an editor and a director in the world of television is to figure out what their show is, and try to do it the best possible way you can. And surprise them with something - surprise yourself with something, so that you walk away with something that’s personal.”

    About This Interview

    In her nearly four-hour interview, Elodie Keene talks about her early life, and attending film school at UCLA. She describes starting out as an editor for the Norman Lloyd-produced series Tales of the Unexpected, which led to her editing for several Aaron Spelling produced shows such as Fantasy Island and Hart to Hart. She chronicles working for Mark Tinker and Bruce Paltrow as an editor on St. Elsewhere, and later moving on to editing L.A. Law. She recounts becoming a producer and director on L.A. Law, under executive producer Steven Bochco, and winning two Emmy Awards. Keene discusses stints directing ER, and well as the short-lived classic My So-Called Life. She outlines working for Bochco a second time, directing NYPD Blue, where she also worked with writer David Milch and producer Gergory Hoblit. She speaks of working on several series for Ryan Murphy, with whom she has an on-again-off-again professional relationship, including Popular, Glee, and Nip/Tuck. She details directing several other series, including Scrubs, The Fosters, Pretty Little Lies, The Wire, and Switched at Birth. Keene concludes by discussing how opportunities have vastly improved for women in television directing since she began her career. Stephen J. Abramson conducted the interview on April 9, 2018 in Sherman Oaks, CA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Chapter 1

    On her early life and influences; on directing projects while in film school at UCLA; on starting out as an editor, and turning to directing

    17:34

    On editing Tales of the Unexpected for Norman Lloyd; on editing various Aaron Spelling shows, including Fantasy Island and Hart to Hart

    19:05

    On editing St. Elsewhere for Bruce Paltrow and Mark Tinker; on the shooting style of St. Elsewhere

    13:55

    On dealing with the actors while editing St. Elsewhere; on how she was assigned episodes of St. Elsewhere to edit; on the impact St. Elsewhere had on medical shows that followed

    02:51

    On how she came to work for L.A. Law; on working with Steven Bochco and the other writers on L.A. Law; on winning an Emmy for editing L.A. Law

    09:29

    On becoming a producer for L.A. Law, and on how she came to direct; on winning an Emmy as producer of L.A. Law; on becoming a regular director of L.A. Law

    13:15

    On advocating for more female directors on L.A. Law; on a typical week directing an episode of L.A. Law; on how the director worked with the director of photography on L.A. Law

    15:44

    Chapter 2

    On choosing ER as her next directing project; on attempting to impose what she'd learned on St. Elsewhere on to directing ER, and on dealing with the sets

    14:40

    On directing My So-Called Life, created by Winnie Holzman; on directing Claire Danes and Jared Leto on My So-Called Life; on directing the final episode of My So-Called Life without knowing if it was going to get picked up for a second season

    13:37

    On directing episodes of NYPD Blue, and on adjusting to the very different style of the show; on working with Dennis Franz and Jimmy Smits, and producer David Milch on NYPD Blue; on Gregory Hoblit and David Milch's respective contributions to NYPD Blue

    09:00

    On Bill Clark, a former member of the New York City Police Department and a producer of NYPD Blue; on Steven Bochco dealing with network censorship issues surrounding the language and nudity on NYPD Blue

    05:51

    On directing for Ryan Murphy on the series Popular, Nip/Tuck, Glee, and American Horror Story before being "banished"; on what makes Ryan Murphy's work so groundbreaking, and on what it was like to work with him; on the challenges of shooting Ryan Murphy's Nip/Tuck

    11:17

    On working with the cast of Nip/Tuck; on the challenges of directing Ryan Murphy's Glee; on directing Cory Monteith's final episode of Glee

    12:33

    Chapter 3

    On directing The Closer with Kyra Sedgwick, and on the positive impact it has had for women on television; on directing the first lesbian kiss on television on L.A. Law, and on the lesbian scenes in Pretty Little Liars

    15:26

    On directing scenes in Switched at Birth in sign language; on directing The Fosters, and on doing socially conscious work; on what she likes about directing

    13:11

    On her directing style; on the differences between directing comedies like Scrubs and dramas; on directing The Wire for show creator David Simon

    16:31

    On how the television industry has changed since she started, and on how directing for television has changed; on having creative freedom as a director in television, and on getting notes from networks and studios; on her work being watched on new media

    10:34

    On how opportunities for women in the industry have changed since she started; on advice that has helped her as a director; on how she would like to be remembered and on being a left-handed director

    11:29

    American Horror Story

    Elodie Keene on directing for Ryan Murphy on the series' Popular, Nip/Tuck, Glee, and American Horror Story before being "banished"

    06:15

    Closer, The

    Elodie Keene on directing The Closer with Kyra Sedgwick, and on the positive impact it has had for women on television

    07:01

    Emmy Awards, The (Primetime and Daytime)

    Elodie Keene on winning an Emmy for editing L.A. Law

    03:18

    Elodie Keene on winning an Emmy as producer of L.A. Law

    03:07

    ER

    Elodie Keene on choosing ER as her next directing project

    07:14

    Elodie Keene on attempting to impose what she'd learned on St. Elsewhere on to directing ER, and on dealing with the sets

    07:26

    Fantasy Island

    Elodie Keene on editing various Aaron Spelling shows, including Fantasy Island

    06:14

    Fosters, The

    Elodie Keene on directing The Fosters, and on doing socially conscious work

    04:17

    Glee

    Elodie Keene on the challenges of directing Ryan Murphy's Glee

    07:20

    Elodie Keene on directing Cory Monteith's final episode of Glee

    02:41

    Elodie Keene on directing for Ryan Murphy on the series Popular, Nip/Tuck, Glee, and American Horror Story before being "banished"

    06:15

    Hart to Hart

    Elodie Keene on the formula for editing shows like Hart to Hart

    02:57

    L.A. Law

    Elodie Keene on working with different directors as an editor on shows like L.A. Law and on becoming a director on L.A. Law

    03:45

    Elodie Keene on how she came to work on L.A. Law

    03:57

    Elodie Keene on working with Steven Bochco and the other writers on L.A. Law

    02:12

    Elodie Keene on winning an Emmy for editing L.A. Law

    03:18

    Elodie Keene on becoming a producer for L.A. Law, and on how she came to direct

    06:25

    Elodie Keene on winning an Emmy as producer of L.A. Law

    03:07

    Elodie Keene on becoming a regular director of L.A. Law

    03:42

    Elodie Keene on advocating for more female directors on L.A. Law

    03:48

    Elodie Keene on a typical week directing an episode of L.A. Law

    04:56

    Elodie Keene on working with the regular cast as director of L.A. Law

    01:41

    Elodie Keene on how the director worked with the director of photography on L.A. Law

    05:19

    Elodie Keene on directing the first lesbian kiss on television on L.A. Law, and on the lesbian scenes in Pretty Little Liars

    02:12

    My So-Called Life

    Elodie Keene on directing My So-Called Life, created by Winnie Holzman

    05:46

    Elodie Keene on directing Claire Danes and Jared Leto (who drove her to distraction) on My So-Called Life

    03:21

    Elodie Keene on directing the final episode of My So-Called Life without knowing if it was going to get picked up for a second season

    04:30

    Nip/Tuck

    Elodie Keene on the challenges of shooting Ryan Murphy's Nip/Tuck

    01:10

    Elodie Keene on working with the cast of Nip/Tuck

    02:25

    Elodie Keene on directing for Ryan Murphy on the series' Popular, Nip/Tuck, Glee, and American Horror Story before being "banished"

    06:15

    NYPD Blue

    Elodie Keene on directing episodes of NYPD Blue, and on adjusting to the very different style of the show

    03:49

    Elodie Keene on working with Dennis Franz and Jimmy Smits, and producer David Milch on NYPD Blue

    03:47

    Elodie Keene on Gregory Hoblit and David Milch's respective contributions to NYPD Blue

    01:24

    Elodie Keene on Bill Clark, a former member of the New York City Police Department and a producer of NYPD Blue

    02:51

    Elodie Keene on Steven Bochco dealing with network censorship issues surrounding the language and nudity on NYPD Blue

    03:00

    Pretty Little Liars

    Elodie Keene on directing ABC Family series like Pretty Little Liars

    06:13

    St. Elsewhere

    Elodie Keene on editing St. Elsewhere for Bruce Paltrow and Mark Tinker

    05:33

    Elodie Keene on the shooting style of St. Elsewhere

    02:27

    Elodie Keene on editing St. Elsewhere

    02:10

    Elodie Keene on dealing with the actors while editing St. Elsewhere

    01:03

    Elodie Keene on how she was assigned episodes of St. Elsewhere to edit

    00:48

    Elodie Keene on the impact St. Elsewhere had on medical shows that followed

    01:00

    Switched at Birth

    Elodie Keene on directing scenes on Switched at Birth in sign language

    02:31

    Tales of the Unexpected

    Elodie Keene on editing Tales of the Unexpected for Norman Lloyd

    09:54

    Wire, The

    Elodie Keene on directing The Wire for show creator David Simon

    05:36

    Advice

    Elodie Keene on advice that has helped her as a director

    04:03

    Censorship / Standards & Practices

    Elodie Keene on Steven Bochco dealing with network censorship issues surrounding the language and nudity on NYPD Blue

    03:00

    Classic TV Series Episodes

    Elodie Keene on directing Claire Danes and Jared Leto on My So-Called Life

    03:21

    Creative Influences and Inspiration

    Elodie Keene on what makes Ryan Murphy's work so groundbreaking, and on what it was like to work with him

    03:52

    Drama

    Elodie Keene on directing Claire Danes and Jared Leto on My So-Called Life

    03:21

    Emmy Awards

    Elodie Keene on winning an Emmy for editing L.A. Law

    03:18

    Elodie Keene on winning an Emmy as producer of L.A. Law

    03:07

    First Big Break

    Elodie Keene on editing Tales of the Unexpected for Norman Lloyd

    09:54

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Elodie Keene on advocating for more female directors on L.A. Law

    03:48

    Elodie Keene on how opportunities for women in the industry have changed since she started

    03:59

    Elodie Keene on directing the first lesbian kiss on television on L.A. Law, and on the lesbian scenes in Pretty Little Liars

    02:12

    Elodie Keene on directing scenes in Switched at Birth in sign language

    02:31

    LGBTQIA+

    Elodie Keene on directing the first lesbian kiss on television on L.A. Law, and on the lesbian scenes in Pretty Little Liars

    02:12

    New Media

    Elodie Keene on her work being watched on new media

    02:23

    People with Disabilities

    Elodie Keene on directing scenes on Switched at Birth in sign language

    02:31

    Pivotal Career Moments

    Elodie Keene on editing Tales of the Unexpected for Norman Lloyd

    09:54

    Elodie Keene on what makes Ryan Murphy's work so groundbreaking, and on what it was like to work with him

    03:52

    Pop Culture

    Elodie Keene on directing Claire Danes and Jared Leto on My So-Called Life

    03:21

    Representation on Television

    Elodie Keene on advocating for more female directors on L.A. Law

    03:48

    Elodie Keene on how opportunities for women in the industry have changed since she started

    03:59

    Elodie Keene on directing the first lesbian kiss on television on L.A. Law, and on the lesbian scenes in Pretty Little Liars

    02:12

    Elodie Keene on directing scenes on Switched at Birth in sign language

    02:31

    Television Industry

    Elodie Keene on Steven Bochco dealing with network censorship issues surrounding the language and nudity on NYPD Blue

    03:00

    Elodie Keene on how the television industry has changed since she started, and on how directing for television has changed

    05:31

    Elodie Keene on having creative freedom as a director in television, and on getting notes from networks and studios

    02:40

    Elodie Keene on her work being watched on new media

    02:23

    Elodie Keene on advice that has helped her as a director

    04:03

    Women

    Elodie Keene on advocating for more female directors on L.A. Law

    03:48

    Elodie Keene on how opportunities for women in the industry have changed since she started

    03:59

    Directors

    Elodie Keene on what she likes about directing

    06:22

    Elodie Keene on her directing style

    06:56

    Elodie Keene on the differences between directing comedies like Scrubs and dramas

    03:57

    Elodie Keene on advice that has helped her as a director

    04:03

    Editor

    Elodie Keene on the formula for editing shows like Hart to Hart

    02:57

    Elodie Keene on a typical week directing an episode of L.A. Law

    06:37

    Post-Production Professionals

    Elodie Keene on the formula for editing shows like Hart to Hart

    02:57

    Elodie Keene on a typical week directing an episode of L.A. Law

    06:37

    Classic Anthology Series

    Elodie Keene on editing Tales of the Unexpected for Norman Lloyd

    09:54

    Comedy Series

    Elodie Keene on directing for Ryan Murphy on the series Popular, Nip/Tuck, Glee, and American Horror Story

    23:54

    Cop/Detective/Mystery Series

    Elodie Keene on the formula for editing shows like Hart to Hart

    02:57

    Elodie Keene on directing episodes of NYPD Blue

    14:51

    Elodie Keene on directing The Closer with Kyra Sedgwick, and on the positive impact it has had for women on television

    07:01

    Elodie Keene on directing The Wire for show creator David Simon

    05:38

    Drama Series

    Elodie Keene on editing various Aaron Spelling shows, including Fantasy Island

    06:14

    Elodie Keene on directing My So-Called Life

    13:37

    Elodie Keene on directing ABC Family series like Pretty Little Liars

    08:24

    Elodie Keene on directing scenes on Switched at Birth in sign language

    02:31

    Elodie Keene on directing The Fosters, and on doing socially conscious work

    04:18

    Legal Dramas

    Elodie Keene on editing and directing L.A. Law

    38:27

    Medical Dramas

    Elodie Keene on editing St. Elsewhere

    16:46

    Elodie Keene on choosing ER as her next directing project

    14:40

    Elodie Keene on directing for Ryan Murphy on the series Popular, Nip/Tuck, Glee, and American Horror Story

    23:56

    Music Shows & Variety Shows/Specials

    Elodie Keene on directing for Ryan Murphy on the series Popular, Nip/Tuck, Glee, and American Horror Story

    23:56

    Sci-Fi/Supernatural Series

    Elodie Keene on directing for Ryan Murphy on the series Popular, Nip/Tuck, Glee, and American Horror Story

    23:56

    Steven Bochco

    Elodie Keene on working with Steven Bochco and the other writers on L.A. Law

    02:12

    Elodie Keene on Steven Bochco dealing with network censorship issues surrounding the language and nudity on NYPD Blue

    03:00

    Bill Clark

    Elodie Keene on Bill Clark, a former member of the New York City Police Department and a producer of NYPD Blue

    02:51

    Claire Danes

    Elodie Keene on directing Claire Danes and Jared Leto (who drove her to distraction) on My So-Called Life

    03:21

    Dennis Franz

    Elodie Keene on working with Dennis Franz and Jimmy Smits, and producer David Milch on NYPD Blue

    03:47

    Gregory Hoblit

    Elodie Keene on Gregory Hoblit and David Milch's respective contributions to NYPD Blue

    01:24

    Winnie Holzman

    Elodie Keene on directing My So-Called Life, created by Winnie Holzman

    05:46

    Jared Leto

    Elodie Keene on directing Claire Danes and Jared Leto (who drove her to distraction) on My So-Called Life

    03:21

    Norman Lloyd

    Elodie Keene on editing Tales of the Unexpected for Norman Lloyd

    09:54

    David Milch

    Elodie Keene on Gregory Hoblit and David Milch's respective contributions to NYPD Blue

    01:24

    Ryan Murphy

    Elodie Keene on directing for Ryan Murphy on the series Popular, Nip/Tuck, Glee, and American Horror Story before being "banished"

    06:14

    Elodie Keene on what makes Ryan Murphy's work so groundbreaking, and on what it was like to work with him

    03:52

    Elodie Keene on directing for Ryan Murphy on the series Popular, Nip/Tuck, Glee, and American Horror Story before being "banished"

    06:13

    Elodie Keene on what makes Ryan Murphy's work so groundbreaking, and on what it was like to work with him

    03:52

    Elodie Keene on the challenges of shooting Ryan Murphy's Nip/Tuck

    01:10

    Bruce Paltrow

    Elodie Keene on editing St. Elsewhere for Bruce Paltrow and Mark Tinker

    05:33

    Kyra Sedgwick

    Elodie Keene on directing The Closer with Kyra Sedgwick, and on the positive impact it has had for women on television

    07:01

    David Simon

    Elodie Keene on directing The Wire for show creator David Simon

    05:36

    Jimmy Smits

    Elodie Keene on working with Dennis Franz and Jimmy Smits, and producer David Milch on NYPD Blue

    03:47

    Aaron Spelling

    Elodie Keene on editing various Aaron Spelling shows, including Fantasy Island

    06:14

    Mark Tinker

    Elodie Keene on editing St. Elsewhere for Bruce Paltrow and Mark Tinker

    05:33

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