"When I see television I want to see what my eyes would see if I were looking at you personally. I want the true person. I don’t want to see a bunch of makeup. Therein lies the challenge of the makeup artist."

    About This Interview

    In his three-and-a-half-hour interview, Howard Smit (1911-2009) talks about his early life, growing up in the Great Depression and eventually taking a job with Max Factor. He recalls doing makeup for several feature films, including The Wizard of Oz and The Hunchback of Notre Dame in 1939. He describes doing makeup for early experimental television broadcasts in Los Angeles in the 1930s, and joining the hair and makeup union leadership. He discusses his involvement with the first thirteen episodes of Dragnet, and what it was like working in live television in the 1950s. Smit details some of the challenges of doing makeup for television, including creating fake blood, prosthetics, and the aging of actors when the script calls for it. Smit outlines creating the Deb Star Ball, a yearly industry event to introduce new female talent, and also chronicles helping to improve working conditions for hair and makeup artists as president of the union. He recounts doing makeup for several classic anthology series, including Schlitz Playhouse of Stars and Alfred Hitchcock Presents, and working with Hitchcock on the classic features The Birds and Marnie. He concludes by discussing several luminaries he worked with in his career, including Aaron Spelling, Lucille Ball, Danny Thomas, and Milton Berle. Byrd Holland conducted the interview on November 21, 1997 in North Hollywood, CA.

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    Howard Smit on doing makeup for Alfred Hitchcock Presents

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    Howard Smit on doing makeup for The Red Skelton Show

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    Howard Smit on doing makeup for the classic feature film "The Hunchback of Notre Dame," and on working in black and white versus working in color

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    Chapter 1

    On his early life and influences; on his family moving to Los Angeles in 1928 and living though the Great Depression; on going to work for Max Factor and learning the techniques of makeup for movies

    16:01

    On the early days of makeup in the movies; on the early days of hairstylists in the movies

    11:36

    Chapter 2

    On the first time he saw television, and on his first involvement with experimental television, at a local Los Angeles station in the 1930s; on the challenges of doing makeup on early television; on leaving law school in 1937 to do makeup full time, and on joining the union

    13:02

    On doing makeup for the feature film "The Wizard of Oz"; on doing makeup for early Technicolor features and the emergence of television; on doing makeup for the classic feature film "The Hunchback of Notre Dame," and on working in black and white versus working in color

    14:48

    Chapter 3

    On his experiences during World War II; on being a negotiator for the hair and makeup union in 1942; on participating in making training films for World War II

    06:43

    On doing makeup for Dragnet, with Jack Webb; on what hairstylists and makeup artists thought of television in the early 1950s; on moving on from Dragnet after 13 episodes

    08:24

    On the process of corrective beauty makeup; on sharing information with other makeup artists; on dealing with fake beards and mustaches as a makeup artist

    12:43

    Chapter 4

    On creating fake blood for television and movies; on the process of aging actors and using various prosthetics on them; on dealing with makeup and the hot lights of the studio

    08:38

    On becoming president of the hair and makeup union in 1953, and on organizing the Deb Star Ball; on the Hollywood Blacklist; on helping improve working conditions for hair stylists and makeup artists as president of the union

    12:44

    On doing makeup for The Red Skelton Show; on doing freelance work as a makeup artist

    06:05

    Chapter 5

    On working with Red Skleton and the various guest stars of The Red Skelton Show; on doing makeup for Alfred Hitchcock Presents; on working with Alfred Hitchcock on "The Birds" and "Marnie"

    17:47

    On doing makeup for "The Lonely Wizard," an episode of Schlitz Playhouse of Stars, starring Rod Steiger; on doing makeup for Lloyd Bridges on The Lloyd Bridges Show, and on dealing with continuity in makeup; on working with various actors, and on the transition from live television to filmed television

    10:43

    Chapter 6

    On doing makeup for The Virginian and other Westerns; on working with Lee J. Cobb, James Drury, and Doug McClure on The Virginian

    09:05

    On doing makeup for The Mod Squad for producer Aaron Spelling; on the cast of The Mod Squad, including Peggy Lipton

    07:31

    On makeup artists dealing with different skin tones; on working with Sammy Davis, Jr. as a guest star on The Mod Squad; on going on location with The Mod Squad, and on the end of the show

    09:43

    On being the business rep for his union, and improving conditions for hair and makeup artists

    03:01

    Chapter 7

    On getting recognition from the Motion Picture Academy for hair and makeup artists; on receiving an award from his union; on his union's anti-discrimination policy and on negotiating for his union

    15:48

    On his retirement from the union and on his proudest achievements as a union representative; on the most important developments in television makeup, and on technological innovations in the medium; on his career highlights and how he would like to be remembered

    08:11

    On various people with whom he has worked in his career; on Milton Berle, Lucille Ball, Chuck Connors, and Danny Thomas

    05:08

    Chapter 8

    On working with Bing Crosby, John Forsythe, Jerry Lewis, and Jonathan Winters; on Walter Diehl; on his wives Edith Smit and Isabelle Smit

    07:58

    Chapter 9

    On b-roll pictures from his career- in 1943 during World War II; doing makeup for an Army Air Corps film; making up Jane Wyatt; applying makeup to Jackie Coogan; on the set of "The Birds" with Alfred Hitchcock; with Sammy Davis, Jr.; with Aaron Spelling; on the set of The Mod Squad; making up Peggy Lipton (2 pictures); applying clown makeup to Clarence Williams III on the set of The Mod Squad; with co-workers; with his first wife, Edith; with his second wife, Isabelle; the "Smitty Award," named in his honor

    04:25

    Alfred Hitchcock Presents aka The Alfred Hitchcock Hour

    Howard Smit on doing makeup for Alfred Hitchcock Presents

    05:46

    Dragnet

    Howard Smit on doing makeup for Dragnet, starring Jack Webb

    06:16

    Howard Smit on moving on from Dragnet after 13 episodes

    00:51

    George Gobel Show, The

    Howard Smit on working with George Gobel on The George Gobel Show

    00:56

    Lloyd Bridges Show, The

    Howard Smit on doing makeup for Lloyd Bridges on The Lloyd Bridges Show

    02:06

    Mod Squad, The

    Howard Smit on doing makeup for The Mod Squad

    04:39

    Howard Smit on the cast of The Mod Squad, including Peggy Lipton

    02:51

    Howard Smit on working with Sammy Davis, Jr. as a guest star on The Mod Squad

    02:57

    Howard Smit on going on location with The Mod Squad, and on the end of the show

    04:11

    Red Skelton Show, The

    Howard Smit on doing makeup for The Red Skelton Show

    03:12

    Howard Smit on working with Red Skleton and the various guest stars of The Red Skelton Show

    02:59

    Schlitz Playhouse of Stars aka Celebrity Playhouse

    Howard Smit on doing makeup for "The Lonely Wizard," an episode of Schlitz Playhouse of Stars, starring Rod Steiger

    02:31

    Thriller

    Howard Smit on doing makeup for Boris Karloff's Thriller series

    01:23

    Virginian, The

    Howard Smit on doing makeup for The Virginian and other Westerns

    06:09

    Howard Smit on working with Lee J. Cobb, James Drury, and Doug McClure on The Virginian

    02:55

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Howard Smit on his experiences during World War II

    01:31

    Howard Smit on participating in making training films for World War II

    03:08

    Hollywood Blacklist

    Howard Smit on the Hollywood Blacklist

    02:27

    Industry Crossroads

    Howard Smit on the Hollywood Blacklist

    02:27

    Pivotal Career Moments

    Howard Smit on doing makeup for the feature film "The Wizard of Oz"

    02:17

    Television Industry

    Howard Smit on the Hollywood Blacklist

    02:27

    TV's Golden Age (1940s & '50s)

    Howard Smit on doing makeup during the Golden Age of Television and dealing with live broadcasts

    03:48

    War

    Howard Smit on his experiences during World War II

    01:31

    Howard Smit on participating in making training films for World War II

    03:08

    World War II

    Howard Smit on his experiences during World War II

    01:31

    Howard Smit on participating in making training films for World War II

    03:08

    Hair Stylist

    Howard Smit on dealing with fake beards and mustaches as a makeup artist

    08:17

    Howard Smit on dealing with makeup and the hot lights of the studio

    02:26

    Makeup Artist

    Howard Smit on the challenges of doing makeup on early television

    02:29

    Howard Smit on the process of corrective beauty makeup

    03:04

    Howard Smit on sharing information with other makeup artists

    01:20

    Howard Smit on creating fake blood for television and movies

    02:56

    Howard Smit on the process of aging actors and using various prosthetics on them

    03:15

    Howard Smit on helping improve working conditions for hair stylists and makeup artists as president of the union

    03:53

    Howard Smit on doing freelance work as a makeup artist

    02:53

    Howard Smit on dealing with continuity in makeup

    01:24

    Howard Smit on the makeup artist dealing with different skin tones and ethnicities

    02:32

    Howard Smit on the most important developments in television makeup, and on technological innovations in the medium

    04:13

    Stylists

    Howard Smit on the challenges of doing makeup on early television

    02:29

    Howard Smit on the process of corrective beauty makeup

    03:04

    Howard Smit on sharing information with other makeup artists

    01:20

    Howard Smit on dealing with fake beards and mustaches as a makeup artist

    08:17

    Howard Smit on creating fake blood for television and movies

    02:56

    Howard Smit on the process of aging actors and using various prosthetics on them

    03:15

    Howard Smit on dealing with makeup and the hot lights of the studio

    02:26

    Howard Smit on helping improve working conditions for hair stylists and makeup artists as president of the union

    03:53

    Howard Smit on doing freelance work as a makeup artist

    02:53

    Howard Smit on dealing with continuity in makeup

    01:24

    Howard Smit on the makeup artist dealing with different skin tones and ethnicities

    02:32

    Howard Smit on the most important developments in television makeup, and on technological innovations in the medium

    04:13

    Classic Anthology Series

    Howard Smit on doing makeup for Alfred Hitchcock Presents

    05:46

    Howard Smit on doing makeup for "The Lonely Wizard," an episode of Schlitz Playhouse of Stars

    02:31

    Howard Smit on doing makeup for Lloyd Bridges on The Lloyd Bridges Show

    02:06

    Cop/Detective/Mystery Series

    Howard Smit on doing makeup for the first 13 episodes of Dragnet

    08:24

    Howard Smit on doing makeup for Mod Squad

    17:18

    Music Shows & Variety Shows/Specials

    Howard Smit on doing makeup for The Red Skelton Show

    03:12

    Howard Smit on working with Red Skleton and the various guest stars of The Red Skelton Show

    02:59

    Western Series

    Howard Smit on doing makeup for The Virginian

    09:01

    Lucille Ball

    Howard Smit on working with Lucille Ball

    00:56

    Howard Smit on Milton Berle, Lucille Ball, Chuck Connors, and Danny Thomas

    01:35

    Milton Berle

    Howard Smit on Milton Berle, Lucille Ball, Chuck Connors, and Danny Thomas

    01:35

    Lloyd Bridges

    Howard Smit on doing makeup for Lloyd Bridges on The Lloyd Bridges Show

    02:06

    Lee J. Cobb

    Howard Smit on working with Lee J. Cobb, James Drury, and Doug McClure on The Virginian

    02:51

    Chuck Connors

    Howard Smit on Milton Berle, Lucille Ball, Chuck Connors, and Danny Thomas

    01:35

    Joan Crawford

    Howard Smit on Jane Wyman and Joan Crawford

    00:59

    Bing Crosby

    Howard Smit on working with Bing Crosby

    00:39

    Sammy Davis, Jr.

    Howard Smit on working with Sammy Davis, Jr. as a guest star on The Mod Squad

    02:57

    James Drury

    Howard Smit on working with Lee J. Cobb, James Drury, and Doug McClure on The Virginian

    02:55

    Max Factor

    Howard Smit on working directly with Max Factor

    01:23

    John Forsythe

    Howard Smit on working with John Forsythe

    00:50

    George Gobel

    Howard Smit on working with George Gobel on The George Gobel Show

    00:57

    Alfred Hitchcock

    Howard Smit on doing makeup for Alfred Hitchcock Presents

    05:46

    Howard Smit on working with Alfred Hitchcock on "The Birds" and "Marnie"

    05:14

    Boris Karloff

    Howard Smit on doing makeup for Boris Karloff's Thriller series

    01:24

    Jerry Lewis

    Howard Smit on working with Jerry Lewis

    01:18

    Peggy Lipton

    Howard Smit on the cast of The Mod Squad, including Peggy Lipton

    02:51

    Red Skelton

    Howard Smit on doing makeup for The Red Skelton Show

    03:12

    Howard Smit on working with Red Skleton and the various guest stars of The Red Skelton Show

    02:59

    Aaron Spelling

    Howard Smit on doing makeup for The Mod Squad for producer Aaron Spelling

    04:39

    Rod Steiger

    Howard Smit on doing makeup for "The Lonely Wizard," an episode of Schlitz Playhouse of Stars, starring Rod Steiger

    02:31

    Danny Thomas

    Howard Smit on Milton Berle, Lucille Ball, Chuck Connors, and Danny Thomas

    01:35

    Jack Webb

    Howard Smit on doing makeup for Dragnet, starring Jack Webb

    06:16

    Jonathan Winters

    Howard Smit on working with Jonathan Winters

    00:28

    Jane Wyman

    Howard Smit on Jane Wyman and Joan Crawford

    00:58

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