"Television was best represented by the early anthology series. We gave an awful lot to the public in terms of wonderful entertainment."

    About This Interview

    In his five-hour interview, Richard Lewis (1920-2009) discusses his early career as a director and later show creator in radio. He talks about his transition to television as a producer (which included Blind Date) and his role in the creation of the popular and long-running Western series Wagon Train, as well as his work on the acclaimed anthology series Alcoa Premiere. He describes producing several successful pilots for series including Leave It to Beaver, Bachelor Father, and McHale's Navy. Lewis recalls becoming the vice president of MCA's Revue Television, which later became Universal Television. He details producing one of the first television movies, The Borgia Stick, and his becoming an independent producer of feature films shortly thereafter. Karen Herman conducted the interview on March 8, 1999 in Brentwood, CA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Richard Lewis on producing Blind Date with Arlene Francis

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    Richard Lewis on producing The General Electric Theater, hosted by Ronald Reagan

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    Richard Lewis on producing the pilot Mickey Spillane's Mike Hammer

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    Richard Lewis on the DuMont television studios at Wannemaker's

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    Richard Lewis on television production moving from New York to Los Angeles, and developing the feature film "A Lovely Way to Die" for MCA and on various other projects

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    Richard Lewis on MCA's reputation when he joined the company, and on the structure of MCA/Revue Productions

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    Chapter 1

    On his early life and influences; on his early interest in theater and movies, and getting interested in the entertainment industry; on his early education and how the Great Depression affected his family

    16:36

    On radio he listened to growing up; on his experiences at Yale University and studying drama there; on writing radio plays while at Yale University

    12:52

    Chapter 2

    On his overall experience at Yale; on the first time he saw television, at the 1939 World's Fair; on going to work for an advertising agency and working with Phillip Morris

    08:53

    On on doing work for Orson Welles' "Mercury Theater" on radio; on directing the radio show "Crime Doctor" and other early radio shows; on Jack Benny and other stars appearing on the radio quiz show "Take It or Leave It"

    11:54

    On working on the radio show "Let Yourself Go," hosted by Milton Berle; on creating the radio show "Quick as a Flash"

    08:15

    Chapter 3

    On creating and directing the radio show "Quick as a Flash"; on his experience during World War II; on creating various pilots for radio

    09:45

    On how he starting working in television, producing Take a Chance and Two Girls Named Smith; on the DuMont television studios at Wannemaker's; on producing the early sitcom Two Girls Named Smith

    07:00

    On producing Blind Date with Arlene Francis; on Grace Kelly being rejected on Blind Date, and on selecting contestants for the show; on the production aspects of the show and on the difference between producing for television and producing for radio

    11:56

    Chapter 4

    On producing Who's There, starring Arlene Francis and Melvyn Douglas, who was blacklisted; on producing the television version of Quick as a Flash; on producing the pilot Mickey Spillane's Mike Hammer

    15:24

    On the character of "Mike Hammer" making the transition from radio to television on Mickey Spillane's Mike Hammer and on William S. Paley refusing to air the show; on producing Crusader, starring Brian Keith

    13:22

    Chapter 5

    On casting Brian Keith as "Mike Hammer" on Mickey Spillane's Mike Hammer; on going to work for MCA/Revue as an executive producer; on MCA's reputation when he joined the company, and on the structure of MCA/Revue Productions

    13:11

    On working with Jules Stein and Lew Wasserman at MCA; on MCA's relationship with the television networks; on producing The General Electric Theater, hosted by Ronald Reagan; on producing The General Electric Theater's production of "Clown," starring Henry Fonda and "The Blond Dog," starring Cornell Wilde

    15:30

    Chapter 6

    On producing Studio 57 and M Squad; on producing Leave it to Beaver and making the pilot

    13:46

    On producing Schlitz Playhouse of the Stars and Tales of Wells Fargo; on producing the pilot for Bachelor Father and various other pilots; on what distinguished Wagon Train from other Westerns

    15:37

    Chapter 7

    On producing Wagon Train; on various pilots he produced that were not picked up, including Portrait, starring Ronald Colman, which aired as a Studio 57 episode; on the deals that get made between networks and studios and on producing the series Checkmate

    16:33

    On attempting to produce a series for Edward G. Robinson; on producing Riverboat and various other shows; on the power of the networks in the 1950s and early 1960s, and the networks wresting control from producers; on producing Laramie

    12:40

    Chapter 8

    On Revue/MCA becoming Universal Televison; on testifying to Congress about violence in television Westerns; on producing Alcoa Premiere, including the episodes "End of a World" and "People Need People"

    10:41

    On producing the Alcoa Premiere episodes "The Fortress" and "Family Outing"; on Alcoa Premiere staying on the air while other anthology series got cancelled; on his week-to-week duties on Alcoa Premiere

    07:11

    On producing various episodes of Alcoa Premiere; on the title design for Alcoa Premiere; on producing a pilot for Fred Astaire and Barrie Chase

    11:03

    Chapter 9

    On his involvement in the made-for-television movie concept; on the process of filming made-for-television movies as opposed to feature films and on networks' reaction to the concept; on television production moving from New York to Los Angeles, and developing the feature film "A Lovely Way to Die" for MCA and on various other projects

    16:20

    On creating the series Mama Malone with playwright Terrence McNally; on producing shows with Jack Barry and Dan Enright; on then-recent activities

    06:33

    On the key to making a successful series and on what represents the best of television; on the then-future of television and how he'd like to be remembered; on various people with whom he's worked in his career

    05:31

    Chapter 10

    On various people with whom he worked in his career

    14:19

    On various people with whom he worked in his career; on his family

    10:55

    On b-roll pictures from his career- on stage at Yale; newspaper clipping about "Quick as a Flash"; with Brian Keith; with Mickey Spillane; receiving an award for Wagon Train; with Jack Benny; with Fred Astaire and John Wayne; article about Mama Malone;; letter informing Richard Lewis he was a Vice President of Revue Productions

    02:41

    Alcoa Premiere

    Richard Lewis on producing Alcoa Premiere, including the episodes "End of a World" and "People Need People"

    05:29

    Richard Lewis on producing the Alcoa Premiere episodes "The Fortress" and "Family Outing"

    02:07

    Richard Lewis on Alcoa Premiere staying on the air while other anthology series got cancelled

    02:37

    Richard Lewis on his week-to-week duties on Alcoa Premiere

    02:26

    Richard Lewis on the Alcoa Premiere episode "Seven Against the Sea," which served as the pilot for McHale's Navy

    03:04

    Richard Lewis on the Alcoa Premiere episode "Flashing Spikes," directed by John Ford

    03:25

    Richard Lewis on the title design for Alcoa Premiere

    00:45

    Bachelor Father

    Richard Lewis on producing the pilot for Bachelor Father and various other pilots

    02:19

    Blind Date

    Richard Lewis on producing Blind Date with Arlene Francis

    04:19

    Richard Lewis on Grace Kelly being rejected on Blind Date, and on selecting contestants for the show

    02:49

    Richard Lewis on the production aspects of Blind Date

    02:24

    Checkmate

    Richard Lewis on the deals that get made between networks and studios and on producing the series Checkmate

    06:21

    Crusader

    Richard Lewis on producing Crusader, starring Brian Keith

    07:52

    General Electric Theater, The

    Richard Lewis on producing The General Electric Theater, hosted by Ronald Reagan

    02:38

    Richard Lewis on producing The General Electric Theater's production of "Clown," starring Henry Fonda and "The Blond Dog," starring Cornell Wilde

    04:22

    Laramie

    Richard Lewis on producing Laramie, Riverboat, and various other shows

    05:03

    Richard Lewis on producing Laramie

    01:08

    Leave it to Beaver

    Richard Lewis on producing Leave it to Beaver and making the pilot

    02:40

    Richard Lewis on Leave it to Beaver writers Joe Connelly and Bob Mosher

    02:44

    M Squad

    Richard Lewis on producing Studio 57 and M Squad

    04:21

    Richard Lewis on the cast of M Squad, including Lee Marvin, and the directors of the show

    03:04

    Richard Lewis on the premise of M Squad

    00:56

    McHale's Navy

    Richard Lewis on the Alcoa Premiere episode "Seven Against the Sea," which served as the pilot for McHale's Navy

    03:04

    Mickey Spillane's Mike Hammer

    Richard Lewis on producing the pilot Mickey Spillane's Mike Hammer

    05:04

    Richard Lewis on the character of "Mike Hammer" making the transition from radio to television on Mickey Spillane's Mike Hammer and on William S. Paley refusing to air the show

    05:30

    Richard Lewis on casting Brian Keith as "Mike Hammer" on Mickey Spillane's Mike Hammer

    01:24

    Riverboat

    Richard Lewis on producing Laramie, Riverboat, and various other shows

    05:03

    Schlitz Playhouse of Stars aka Celebrity Playhouse

    Richard Lewis on producing Schlitz Playhouse of the Stars and Tales of Wells Fargo

    02:04

    Studio 57

    Richard Lewis on producing Studio 57 and M Squad

    04:21

    Richard Lewis on various pilots he produced that were not picked up, including Portrait, starring Ronald Colman which aired as a Studio 57 episode

    04:07

    Tales of Wells Fargo

    Richard Lewis on producing Schlitz Playhouse of the Stars and Tales of Wells Fargo

    02:04

    Wagon Train

    Richard Lewis on producing Wagon Train, starring Ward Bond

    08:02

    Richard Lewis on the directors of Wagon Train

    01:39

    Richard Lewis on what distinguished Wagon Train from other Westerns

    01:14

    Richard Lewis on leaving Wagon Train and the death of star Ward Bond

    02:49

    Richard Lewis on the guest stars of Wagon Train

    01:18

    Richard Lewis on the budget of Wagon Train

    01:56

    1939-40 World's Fair

    Richard Lewis on the first time he saw television, at the 1939 World's Fair

    02:34

    Censorship / Standards & Practices

    Richard Lewis on testifying to Congress about violence in television Westerns

    02:33

    Criticism of TV

    Richard Lewis on testifying to Congress about violence in television Westerns

    02:33

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Richard Lewis on the first time he saw television, at the 1939 World's Fair

    02:34

    Richard Lewis on his experience during World War II

    02:20

    Hollywood Blacklist

    Richard Lewis on producing Who's There, starring Arlene Francis and Melvyn Douglas, who was blacklisted

    07:44

    Industry Crossroads

    Richard Lewis on producing Who's There, starring Arlene Francis and Melvyn Douglas, who was blacklisted

    07:44

    Media Consolidation

    Richard Lewis on Revue/MCA becoming Universal Televison

    02:38

    Ronald Reagan

    Richard Lewis on producing The General Electric Theater, hosted by Ronald Reagan

    02:36

    Sex & Violence

    Richard Lewis on testifying to Congress about violence in television Westerns

    02:33

    Technological Innovation

    Richard Lewis on the advent of color television and producing feature films

    01:52

    Television and the Presidency

    Richard Lewis on producing The General Electric Theater, hosted by Ronald Reagan

    02:36

    Television Industry

    Richard Lewis on producing Who's There, starring Arlene Francis and Melvyn Douglas, who was blacklisted

    07:44

    Richard Lewis on the different between television production in New York and in Los Angeles in the 1950s

    02:30

    Richard Lewis on MCA's relationship with the television networks

    02:59

    Richard Lewis on producing the pilot for Bachelor Father and various other pilots

    02:19

    Richard Lewis on the deals that get made between networks and studios, and on producing the series Checkmate

    06:11

    Richard Lewis on the power of the networks in the 1950s and early 1960s, and the networks wresting control from producers

    04:48

    Richard Lewis on Revue/MCA becoming Universal Televison

    02:38

    Richard Lewis on testifying to Congress about violence in television Westerns

    02:33

    Richard Lewis on the then-future of television

    01:23

    War

    Richard Lewis on his experience during World War II

    02:20

    World War II

    Richard Lewis on his experience during World War II

    02:20

    Producers

    Richard Lewis on the differences between producing for radio and producing for television

    02:23

    Richard Lewis on the deals that get made between networks and studios and on producing the series Checkmate

    06:11

    Richard Lewis on the key to making a sucessful series and on what represents the best of television

    01:57

    Adventure/Espionage Series

    Richard Lewis on producing Crusader

    07:52

    Classic Anthology Series

    Richard Lewis on producing The General Electric Theater

    07:00

    Richard Lewis on producing Studio 57

    04:21

    Richard Lewis on producing Schlitz Playhouse of the Stars and Tales of Wells Fargo

    02:04

    Richard Lewis on producing Alcoa Premiere

    19:57

    Comedy Series

    Richard Lewis on how he starting working in television producing Take a Chance and Two Girls Named Smith

    07:00

    Richard Lewis on producing Leave it to Beaver

    05:25

    Cop/Detective/Mystery Series

    Richard Lewis on producing the pilot Mickey Spillane's Mike Hammer

    10:35

    Richard Lewis on producing M Squad

    03:04

    Richard Lewis on the deals that get made between networks and studios and on producing the series Checkmate

    06:21

    Game Shows

    Richard Lewis on producing Blind Date

    09:33

    TV Movies/Miniseries/Dramatic Specials

    Richard Lewis on his involvement in the made-for-television movie concept

    05:30

    Richard Lewis on the process of filming made-for-television movies as opposed to feature films and on networks' reaction to the concept

    01:54

    Western Series

    Richard Lewis on producing Schlitz Playhouse of the Stars and Tales of Wells Fargo

    02:04

    Richard Lewis on producing Wagon Train

    10:55

    Richard Lewis on producing Wagon Train

    06:03

    Richard Lewis on producing Laramie, Riverboat and various other shows

    11:28

    Richard Lewis on testifying to Congress about violence in television Westerns

    02:33

    Fred Astaire

    Richard Lewis on producing a pilot for Fred Astaire and Barrie Chase

    03:46

    Richard Lewis on Edward G. Robertson, Fred Astaire, and George Schaeffer

    03:39

    James T. Aubrey

    Richard Lewis on Burt Reynolds, John Willams, and James T. Aubrey

    01:24

    Jack Barry

    Richard Lewis on producing shows with Jack Barry and Dan Enright

    01:18

    Richard Lewis on Jack Barry, Dan Enright, and Lila Kaye

    01:03

    Jack Benny

    Richard Lewis on Jack Benny and other stars appearing on the radio quiz show "Take It or Leave It"

    02:01

    Milton Berle

    Richard Lewis on working on the radio show "Let Yourself Go" hosted by Milton Berle

    04:58

    Barbara Billingsley

    Richard Lewis on Barbara Billingsley, Jerry Mathers, and Boris Ingster

    01:21

    Paul Bogart

    Richard Lewis on Mel Tolkin, Prudence Fraser, and Paul Bogart

    01:50

    Ward Bond

    Richard Lewis on producing Wagon Train, starring Ward Bond

    08:00

    Richard Lewis on leaving Wagon Train and the death of star Ward Bond

    02:49

    Macdonald Carey

    Richard Lewis on MacDonald Carey, Kim Hunter, and Brian Aherne

    00:40

    Ronald Colman

    Richard Lewis on various pilots he produced that were not picked up, including Portrait, starring Ronald Colman which aired as a Studio 57 episode

    04:07

    Joe Connelly

    Richard Lewis on Leave it to Beaver writers Joe Connelly and Bob Mosher

    02:44

    Hume Cronyn

    Richard Lewis on Hume Cronyn, Jessica Tandy, and Norman Lloyd

    01:07

    Bill Cullen

    Richard Lewis on Bill Cullen and Lew Lahr

    00:55

    David Dortort

    Richard Lewis on Dale Robertson, John Payne, and David Dortort

    00:44

    Melvyn Douglas

    Richard Lewis on producing Who's There, starring Arlene Francis and Melvyn Douglas, who was blacklisted

    07:44

    Charles S. Dubin

    Richard Lewis on Charles Dubin and William S. Paley

    00:40

    Dan Enright

    Richard Lewis on producing shows with Jack Barry and Dan Enright

    01:18

    Richard Lewis on Jack Barry, Dan Enright, and Lila Kaye

    01:03

    Henry Fonda

    Richard Lewis on producing The General Electric Theater's production of "Clown," starring Henry Fonda and "The Blond Dog," starring Cornell Wilde

    04:22

    John Ford

    Richard Lewis on the Alcoa Premiere episode "Flashing Spikes," directed by John Ford

    03:25

    John Forsythe

    Richard Lewis on Taft Schreiber, Cornel Wilde, and John Forsythe

    01:25

    Arlene Francis

    Richard Lewis on producing Blind Date with Arlene Francis

    04:19

    Richard Lewis on producing Who's There, starring Arlene Francis and Melvyn Douglas, who was blacklisted

    07:44

    Richard Lewis on Bernard Schubert and Arlene Francis

    00:50

    Joan Harrison

    Richard Lewis on Alfred Hitchcock, Joan Harrison, and Ray Milland

    01:16

    Alfred Hitchcock

    Richard Lewis on Alfred Hitchcock, Joan Harrison, and Ray Milland

    01:16

    Earl Holliman

    Richard Lewis on Earl Holliman, Michael Landon, and Clifton Fadiman

    01:18

    Kim Hunter

    Richard Lewis on MacDonald Carey, Kim Hunter, and Brian Aherne

    00:41

    Brian Keith

    Richard Lewis on producing Crusader, starring Brian Keith

    07:52

    Grace Kelly

    Richard Lewis on Grace Kelly being rejected on Blind Date, and on selecting contestants for the show

    02:48

    Michael Landon

    Richard Lewis on Earl Holliman, Michael Landon, and Clifton Fadiman

    01:18

    Charles Laughton

    Richard Lewis on Charles Laughton, Howard Christy, and Darren McGavin

    01:00

    Norman Lloyd

    Richard Lewis on Hume Cronyn, Jessica Tandy, and Norman Lloyd

    01:07

    Lee Marvin

    Richard Lewis on the cast of M Squad, including Lee Marvin, and the directors of the show

    03:04

    Jerry Mathers

    Richard Lewis on Barbara Billingsley, Jerry Mathers, and Boris Ingster

    01:21

    Ray Milland

    Richard Lewis on Alfred Hitchcock, Joan Harrison, and Ray Milland

    01:17

    Bob Mosher

    Richard Lewis on Leave it to Beaver writers Joe Connelly and Bob Mosher

    02:44

    William S. Paley

    Richard Lewis on the character of "Mike Hammer" making the transition from radio to television on Mickey Spillane's Mike Hammer and on William S. Paley refusing to air the show

    05:30

    Richard Lewis on Charles Dubin and William S. Paley

    00:41

    Ronald Reagan

    Richard Lewis on producing The General Electric Theater, hosted by Ronald Reagan

    02:36

    Burt Reynolds

    Richard Lewis on producing Laramie, Riverboat starring Burt Reynolds and various other series and pilots

    05:03

    Richard Lewis on Burt Reynolds, John Willams, and James T. Aubrey

    01:24

    Dale Robertson

    Richard Lewis on Dale Robertson, John Payne, and David Dortort

    00:43

    Edward G. Robinson

    Richard Lewis on attempting to produce a series for Edward G. Robinson

    01:41

    Richard Lewis on Edward G. Robertson, Fred Astaire, and George Schaeffer

    03:39

    Jules Stein

    Richard Lewis on working with Jules Stein and Lew Wasserman at MCA

    05:29

    Jessica Tandy

    Richard Lewis on Hume Cronyn, Jessica Tandy, and Norman Lloyd

    01:07

    Mel Tolkin

    Richard Lewis on Mel Tolkin, Prudence Fraser, and Paul Bogart

    01:50

    Lew Wasserman

    Richard Lewis on working with Jules Stein and Lew Wasserman at MCA

    05:29

    Richard Lewis on Oscar Millard, Lew Wasserman, and Alan Miller

    01:16

    Orson Welles

    Richard Lewis on doing work for Orson Welles' "Mercury Theater" on radio

    06:50

    John Williams

    Richard Lewis on Burt Reynolds, John Willams, and James T. Aubrey

    01:24

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