"When you began in television, you didn't have a television set. It's an actual fact. And that's one of the biggest lessons in show business: too many people learned to write television from watching television, which is the reason so many of them are all alike. In fact, somebody once said that before you sit down to write, stand up and live. You have to learn from life, not from television."

    About This Interview

    In his four-hour interview, Mel Tolkin (1913-2007) talks about his early years writing for Camp Tamiment, where he was discovered by producer Max Liebman, and his writing partnership with Lucille Kallen. He discusses writing for such shows as Admiral Broadway Revue, Your Show of Shows, Caesar's Hour and The Danny Kaye Show. He describes writing for All in the Family as well, where he penned the controversial episode "Edith's 50th Birthday," and later for Archie Bunker's Place. He recalls shorter writing jobs on The Danny Thomas Show, Joe's World, and Love, Sidney. He also recalls working with Sid Caesar, Carl Reiner, and Howard Morris. Bob Claster conducted the interview on November 4, 1997 in Beverly Hills, CA. 

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Mel Tolkin on how Your Show of Shows was different from Admiral Broadway Revue, and on discovering Sid Caesar's talents

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    Mel Tolkin on the end of Your Show of Shows

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    Mel Tolkin on the challenges of writing for the "Archie Bunker" character on All in the Family, and on story ideas he had for the show

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    Mel Tolkin on writing the controversial All in the Family episode "Edith's 50th Birthday"

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    Chapter 1

    On his early life and influences; on his hobbies as a kid; on radio he listened to growing up and movies he enjoyed

    15:11

    On realizing he wanted to be a writer; on his accent, and on his earliest experiences with television

    06:25

    On life in New York City in 1945, and on Camp Tamiment; on meeting Max Liebman and Lucille Kallen

    06:42

    Chapter 2

    On Admiral Broadway Revue and later Your Show of Shows producer Max Liebman; on what Liebman saw in Tolkin's talents when he worked at the Poconos resort Camp Tamiment; on his first impressions of Sid Caesar, whom he met on Admiral Broadway Revue, and on their relationship

    09:43

    On the talents of Imogene Coca on Admiral Broadway Revue and later on Your Show of Shows; on the format of Admiral Broadway Revue, and the use of previously written material from when he and co-writer Lucille Kallen worked at Camp Tamiment; on writing for Sid Caesar and Imogene Coca on Admiral Broadway Revue

    08:00

    On the creation of Your Show of Shows; on how Your Show of Shows was different from Admiral Broadway Revue and on discovering Sid Caesar's talents; on writers Carl Reiner and Howard Morris

    08:55

    Chapter 3

    On his mother visiting him on Your Show of Shows; on his writing partner Lucille Kallen working on Your Show of Shows; on working with Mel Brooks on Your Show of Shows

    08:57

    On working with Tony Webster and Joe Stein on Your Show of Shows; on Danny and Neil Simon writing for Your Show of Shows; on the most memorable sketches on Your Show of Shows and the types of sketches they did

    13:51

    On how much of Your Show of Shows was improvised on-camera, and on the "This is Your Story" sketch; on the pantomime segments of Your Shows of Shows

    06:05

    Chapter 4

    On Your Show of Shows being sued over their satire of "From Here to Eternity"; on the pressure of working on Your Show of Shows; on the end of Your Show of Shows

    10:26

    On the Hollywood Blacklist; on splitting up with Lucille Kallen when she went to write for The Imogene Coca Show and he went to write for Caesar's Hour; on the writing staff of Caesar's Hour, and on being the show's head writer

    09:34

    On Mel Brooks writing for Caesar's Hour; on the Caesar's Hour writers Sheldon Keller, Selma Diamond, Gary Belkin, and Mike Stewart; on Caesar's Hour writers Larry Gelbart and Woody Allen

    08:33

    Chapter 5

    On the talent of the writing staff of Caesar's Hour, and on comparing it to Your Show of Shows; on writing for Nanette Fabray on Caesar's Hour, and comparing her to Imogene Coca; on classic sketches from Caesar's Hour, and on the end of the show

    15:22

    On how television changed and evolved from the 1950s to the 1980s; on writing for The Danny Thomas Show, and on working with producer Sheldon Leonard; on how writing sketches differed from writing a sitcom like The Danny Thomas Show

    13:46

    Chapter 6

    On writing specific episodes of The Danny Thomas Show; on writing for I'm Dickens ... He's Fenster and for The Danny Kaye Show with Larry Gelbart; on writing The Sid Caesar, Imogene Coca, Carl Reiner, Howard Morris Special and on his deal with Universal Television

    11:48

    On writing The Good Guys, starring Bob Denver and Alan Hale, Jr.; on writing for Bob Hope

    08:15

    On writing for All in the Family with writing partner Larry Rhine and on working with Norman Lear; on the challenges of writing for the "Archie Bunker" character on All in the Family, and on story ideas he had for the show; on Norman Lear's day-to-day involvement with All in the Family, and on the shooting schedule of the show

    08:54

    Chapter 7

    On writing the controversial All in the Family episode "Edith's 50th Birthday"; on how All in the Family changed over the years, and on dealing with cast members leaving; on writing for Archie Bunker's Place, starring Carroll O'Connor

    07:19

    On writing Joe's World with Norman Lear; on writing for Love, Sidney, starring Tony Randall in which the lead character was homosexual; on teaching comedy writing at UCLA and on the then-current state of television comedy

    07:05

    On his desire to continue working, and on then-current projects; on his accomplishments and his regrets; on the benefits of writing with a partner, and on the best of television

    06:22

    On attending a reunion of the writers of Your Show of Shows; on how he'd like to be remembered; on various people he's worked with in his career

    07:38

    Chapter 8

    On various people with whom he's worked in his career; on his sons and wife

    08:44

    On b-roll pictures from his career- with a nightclub band; with a marching band; Tamiment Playhouse program; with Lucille Kallen; headshot of Sid Caesar; with Sid Caesar on the set of Your Show of Shows; the entire creative team of Your Show of Shows; the writing team of Caesar's Hour; reunion of Sid Caesar's writers; with Neil Simon, Nathan Lane, Sid Caesar, and Carl Reiner; on the set of The Danny Kaye Show; with Jerry Lewis; Bob Hope writers; posing with his awards; bit of wisdom

    09:05

    Admiral Broadway Revue

    Mel Tolkin on Admiral Broadway Revue and later Your Show of Shows producer Max Liebman

    02:51

    Mel Tolkin on what Admiral Broadway Revue producer Max Liebman saw in Tolkin's talents when he worked at the Poconos resort Camp Tamiment

    01:00

    Mel Tolkin on getting into television with the short-lived Admiral Broadway Revue

    02:26

    Mel Tolkin on the talents of Imogene Coca on Admiral Broadway Revue and later on Your Show of Shows

    02:38

    Mel Tolkin on the format of Admiral Broadway Revue and the use of previously written material from when he and co-writer Lucille Kallen worked at the Poconos resort Camp Tamiment

    02:38

    Mel Tolkin on writing for Sid Caesar and Imogene Coca on Admiral Broadway Revue

    02:44

    Mel Tolkin on how Your Show of Shows was different from Admiral Broadway Revue, and on discovering Sid Caesar's talents

    04:23

    All in the Family

    Mel Tolkin on writing for All in the Family with writing partner Larry Rhine, and on working with Norman Lear

    04:02

    Mel Tolkin on the challenges of writing for the "Archie Bunker" character on All in the Family, and on story ideas he had for the show

    02:56

    Mel Tolkin on Norman Lear's day-to-day involvement with All in the Family, and on the shooting schedule of the show

    01:56

    Mel Tolkin on writing the controversial All in the Family episode "Edith's 50th Birthday"

    02:32

    Mel Tolkin on how All in the Family changed over the years, and on dealing with cast members leaving

    02:27

    Archie Bunker's Place

    Mel Tolkin on writing for Archie Bunker's Place, starring Carroll O'Connor

    02:20

    Bob Hope Specials

    Mel Tolkin on writing for Bob Hope

    07:07

    Caesar's Hour

    Mel Tolkin on splitting up with Lucille Kallen when she went to write for The Imogene Coca Show and he went to write for Caesar's Hour

    02:06

    Mel Tolkin on the writing staff of Caesar's Hour, and on being the show's head writer

    05:18

    Mel Tolkin on Mel Brooks writing for Caesar's Hour

    02:02

    Mel Tolkin on the Caesar's Hour writers Sheldon Keller, Selma Diamond, Gary Belkin, and Mike Stewart

    04:32

    Mel Tolkin on Caesar's Hour writers Larry Gelbart and Woody Allen

    01:55

    Mel Tolkin on the talent of the writing staff of Caesar's Hour, and on comparing it to Your Show of Shows

    02:21

    Mel Tolkin on writing for Nanette Fabray on Caesar's Hour, and comparing her to Imogene Coca

    01:54

    Mel Tolkin on classic sketches from Caesar's Hour featuring Sid Caesar

    07:54

    Mel Tolkin on the end of Caesar's Hour

    03:12

    Danny Thomas Hour, The

    Mel Tolkin on how writing sketches differed from writing a sitcom like The Danny Thomas Show

    04:44

    Danny Thomas Show, The aka Make Room for Daddy

    Mel Tolkin on writing for The Danny Thomas Show, and on working with producer Sheldon Leonard

    02:58

    Mel Tolkin on writing specific episodes of The Danny Thomas Show

    02:19

    Good Guys, The

    Mel Tolkin on writing The Good Guys, starring Bob Denver and Alan Hale, Jr.

    01:08

    I'm Dickens ... He's Fenster

    Mel Tolkin on writing for I'm Dickens ... He's Fenster and for The Danny Kaye Show with Larry Gelbart

    04:02

    Love, Sidney

    Mel Tolkin on writing for Love, Sidney, starring Tony Randall in which the lead character was homosexual

    02:59

    Sid Caesar, Imogene Coca, Carl Reiner, Howard Morris Special, The

    Mel Tolkin on writing The Sid Caesar, Imogene Coca, Carl Reiner, Howard Morris Special, and on his deal with Universal Television

    05:27

    Your Show of Shows

    Mel Tolkin on Admiral Broadway Revue and later Your Show of Shows producer Max Liebman

    02:51

    Mel Tolkin on his first impressions of Sid Caesar, who he met on Admiral Broadway Revue, and on their relationship

    03:26

    Mel Tolkin on the talents of Imogene Coca on Admiral Broadway Revue and later on Your Show of Shows

    02:38

    Mel Tolkin on the talents of performer/writer Carl Reiner on Your Show of Shows

    01:30

    Mel Tolkin on the talents and temperament of performer Howard Morris on Your Show of Shows

    00:35

    Mel Tolkin on the creation of Your Show of Shows

    02:26

    Mel Tolkin on his mother visiting him on Your Show of Shows

    02:06

    Mel Tolkin on his writing partner Lucille Kallen working on Your Show of Shows

    02:55

    Mel Tolkin on working with Mel Brooks on Your Show of Shows

    03:55

    Mel Tolkin on working with Tony Webster and Joe Stein on Your Show of Shows

    02:33

    Mel Tolkin on Danny and Neil Simon writing for Your Show of Shows

    01:51

    Mel Tolkin on the most memorable sketches on Your Show of Shows and the types of sketches they did

    09:27

    Mel Tolkin on how much of Your Show of Shows was improvised on-camera, and on the "This is Your Story" sketch

    03:07

    Mel Tolkin on the pantomime segments of Your Shows of Shows, and on where he was when the show was airing

    02:58

    Mel Tolkin on Your Show of Shows being sued over their satire of "From Here to Eternity"

    01:11

    Mel Tolkin on the pressure of working on Your Show of Shows

    05:01

    Mel Tolkin on the end of Your Show of Shows

    04:14

    Mel Tolkin on the talent of the writing staff of Caesar's Hour, and on comparing it to Your Show of Shows

    02:21

    Mel Tolkin on attending a reunion of the writers of Your Show of Shows

    01:06

    Characters & Catchphrases

    Mel Tolkin on the challenges of writing for the "Archie Bunker" character on All in the Family, and on story ideas he had for the show

    02:56

    Comedy-Variety

    Mel Tolkin on writing for Your Show of Shows

    08:55

    Mel Tolkin on classic sketches from Caesar's Hour featuring Sid Caesar

    07:54

    Hollywood Blacklist

    Mel Tolkin on the Hollywood Blacklist

    02:10

    Industry Crossroads

    Mel Tolkin on the Hollywood Blacklist

    02:10

    Pop Culture

    Mel Tolkin on the challenges of writing for the "Archie Bunker" character on All in the Family, and on story ideas he had for the show

    02:56

    Television Industry

    Mel Tolkin on the Hollywood Blacklist

    02:10

    Mel Tolkin on how television changed and evolved from the 1950s to the 1980s

    06:04

    Mel Tolkin on the benefits of writing with a partner, and on the best of television

    02:42

    TV's Golden Age (1940s & '50s)

    Mel Tolkin on writing for Your Show of Shows

    08:55

    Mel Tolkin on classic sketches from Caesar's Hour featuring Sid Caesar

    07:54

    Writers

    Mel Tolkin on how writing sketches differed from writing a sitcom like The Danny Thomas Show

    04:44

    Mel Tolkin on teaching comedy writing at UCLA, and on the then-current state of television comedy

    02:58

    Mel Tolkin on the benefits of writing with a partner, and on the best of television

    02:43

    Comedy Series

    Mel Tolkin on writing for The Danny Thomas Show

    02:19

    Mel Tolkin on writing for I'm Dickens ... He's Fenster and for The Danny Kaye Show with Larry Gelbart

    04:02

    Mel Tolkin on writing The Good Guys, starring Bob Denver and Alan Hale, Jr.

    01:08

    Mel Tolkin on writing for All in the Family

    08:54

    Mel Tolkin on writing for All in the Family and Archie Bunker's Place

    07:19

    Mel Tolkin on writing for Joe's World

    01:08

    Mel Tolkin on writing for Love, Sidney

    02:59

    Music Shows & Variety Shows/Specials

    Mel Tolkin on writing for Admiral Broadway Revue

    17:43

    Mel Tolkin on writing for Your Show of Shows

    08:55

    Mel Tolkin on writing for Your Show of Shows

    28:53

    Mel Tolkin on writing for Your Show of Shows

    10:26

    Mel Tolkin on writing for Caesar's Hour

    15:57

    Mel Tolkin on writing for Caesar's Hour

    15:22

    Mel Tolkin on writing for The Danny Thomas Show

    07:42

    Mel Tolkin on writing for I'm Dickens ... He's Fenster and for The Danny Kaye Show with Larry Gelbart

    04:02

    Mel Tolkin on writing The Sid Caesar, Imogene Coca, Carl Reiner, Howard Morris Special, and on his deal with Universal Television

    05:27

    Woody Allen

    Mel Tolkin on Caesar's Hour writers Larry Gelbart and Woody Allen

    01:55

    Mel Brooks

    Mel Tolkin on working with Mel Brooks on Your Show of Shows

    03:55

    Mel Tolkin on Mel Brooks writing for Caesar's Hour

    02:02

    Dave Caesar

    Mel Tolkin on Dave Caesar

    01:03

    Sid Caesar

    Mel Tolkin on his first impressions of Sid Caesar and on their relationship

    01:49

    Mel Tolkin on writing for Sid Caesar and Imogene Coca on Admiral Broadway Revue

    02:44

    Mel Tolkin on how Your Show of Shows was different from Admiral Broadway Revue, and on discovering Sid Caesar's talents

    04:23

    Mel Tolkin on classic sketches from Caesar's Hour featuring Sid Caesar

    07:54

    Imogene Coca

    Mel Tolkin on writing for Sid Caesar and Imogene Coca on Admiral Broadway Revue

    02:44

    Mel Tolkin on splitting up with Lucille Kallen when she went to write for The Imogene Coca Show and he went to write for Caesar's Hour

    02:06

    Mel Tolkin on writing for Nanette Fabray on Caesar's Hour, and comparing her to Imogene Coca

    01:54

    Bob Denver

    Mel Tolkin on writing The Good Guys, starring Bob Denver and Alan Hale, Jr.

    01:08

    Selma Diamond

    Mel Tolkin on the Caesar's Hour writers Sheldon Keller, Selma Diamond, Gary Belkin, and Mike Stewart

    04:32

    Jimmy Durante

    Mel Tolkin on Jimmy Durante

    00:46

    Nanette Fabray

    Mel Tolkin on writing for Nanette Fabray on Caesar's Hour, and comparing her to Imogene Coca

    01:54

    Larry Gelbart

    Mel Tolkin on Caesar's Hour writers Larry Gelbart and Woody Allen

    01:55

    Mel Tolkin on writing for I'm Dickens ... He's Fenster and for The Danny Kaye Show with Larry Gelbart

    04:02

    Bob Hope

    Mel Tolkin on writing for Bob Hope

    07:07

    Mel Tolkin on Bob Hope

    00:26

    Milt Josefsberg

    Mel Tolkin on Milt Josefsberg

    00:29

    Alan Hale, Jr.

    Mel Tolkin on writing The Good Guys, starring Bob Denver and Alan Hale, Jr.

    01:08

    Lucille Kallen

    Mel Tolkin on meeting Max Liebman and Lucille Kallen

    02:45

    Mel Tolkin on his writing partner Lucille Kallen working on Your Show of Shows

    02:55

    Mel Tolkin on splitting up with Lucille Kallen when she went to write for The Imogene Coca Show and he went to write for Caesar's Hour

    02:06

    Danny Kaye

    Mel Tolkin on writing for I'm Dickens ... He's Fenster and for The Danny Kaye Show with Larry Gelbart

    04:02

    Mel Tolkin on Danny Kaye

    01:16

    Norman Lear

    Mel Tolkin on writing for All in the Family with writing partner Larry Rhine, and on working with Norman Lear

    04:02

    Mel Tolkin on Norman Lear's day-to-day involvement with All in the Family, and on the shooting schedule of the show

    01:56

    Mel Tolkin on writing Joe's World with Norman Lear

    01:08

    Sheldon Leonard

    Mel Tolkin on writing for The Danny Thomas Show, and on working with producer Sheldon Leonard

    02:58

    Max Liebman

    Mel Tolkin on meeting Max Liebman and Lucille Kallen

    02:45

    Mel Tolkin on Your Show of Shows and Admiral Broadway Revue producer Max Liebman

    02:55

    Howard Morris

    Mel Tolkin on the talents and temperament of performer Howard Morris on Your Show of Shows

    00:33

    Carroll O'Connor

    Mel Tolkin on Carroll O'Connor

    00:50

    Tony Randall

    Mel Tolkin on Tony Randall

    00:55

    Carl Reiner

    Mel Tolikn on the talents of performer/writer Carl Reiner on Your Show of Shows

    01:30

    Rob Reiner

    Mel Tolkin on Jean Stapleton, Rob Reiner, and Sally Struthers

    02:32

    Larry Rhine

    Mel Tolkin on writing for All in the Family with writing partner Larry Rhine, and on working with Norman Lear

    04:02

    Neil Simon

    Mel Tolkin on Danny and Neil Simon writing for Your Show of Shows

    01:51

    Jean Stapleton

    Mel Tolkin on Jean Stapleton, Rob Reiner, and Sally Struthers

    02:32

    Sally Struthers

    Mel Tolkin on Jean Stapleton, Rob Reiner, and Sally Struthers

    02:32

    Danny Thomas

    Mel Tolkin on writing for The Danny Thomas Show, and on working with producer Sheldon Leonard

    02:58

    Mel Tolkin on writing specific episodes of The Danny Thomas Show

    02:19

    Sylvester L. "Pat" Weaver

    Mel Tolkin on Sylvester L. Weaver

    00:26

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