"[Philo Farnsworth] saw television being transmitted over the ocean. He saw countries being able to see what the other country is like, and their problems, and that they could settle their differences over a conference table rather than on the battlefield. He saw it as a big educational tool, and also entertainment."

    About This Interview

    In her seven-hour interview, Elma Farnsworth (1908-2006) discusses her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's first television invention - the image dissector tube - and the excitement of seeing its first moving image. She describes how Philo toiled to create the first electronic television, while RCA and Vladimir Zworykin worked on a similar invention, both trying to finish before the other. Farnsworth also talks about the heated competition and the ensuing patent fights between Philo and General David Sarnoff, then President of RCA. She talks about Philo's colleagues, laboratories, and companies, and speaks of the couple's home life, as well. Jeff Kisseloff conducted the interview on June 25 and June 26, 1996 in Salt Lake City, UT.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Elma Farnsworth on the reaction of her and her husband, inventor Philo T. Farnsworth (and colleagues Cliff Gardner and Carl Christensen), on September 7, 1927 when he produced the first all-electronic TV picture (a simple straight line) with his Image Dissector tube

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    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo patenting television in 1927

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    Chapter 1

    On the story of the birth of her husband, Philo T. Farnsworth; on Philo's childhood, hobbies and talents; on her childhood 

    15:11

    On Philo's family moving to Rigby, Idaho when he was a youngster; on Philo seeing electricity for the first time

    03:54

    On Philo reading Invention magazine as a child and first learning about mechanical television

    07:31

    Chapter 2

    On Philo entering a contest in a magazine; on Philo's idea for electronic television and studying math and chemistry in school

    17:49

    On how she met Philo; on Philo's time in the Navy

    11:32

    Chapter 3

    On getting engaged to Philo; on Philo telling her his idea for electronic television

    13:22

    On Salt Lake City's Community Chest; on Philo hiring George Everson, Les Gorrell, and Cliff Gardner; on getting married

    09:24

    On becoming Philo's assistant; on moving to Los Angeles to set up a laboratory

    04:09

    Chapter 4

    On police mistaking Philo's lab for a home distillery; on moving to San Francisco and Philo patenting television in 1927; on securing funding for experimental television

    17:19

    On setting up their lab on Green Street; on Philo enlisting a professor at UC Berkeley to assist in glass-blowing; on her role in the laboratory

    08:49

    Chapter 5

    On the race to invent electronic television; on the drawbacks to mechanical disc television and the obstacles Philo encountered when creating electronic television

    09:51

    On the reaction of her and her husband, inventor Philo T. Farnsworth (and colleagues Cliff Gardner and Carl Christensen), on September 7, 1927 when he produced the first all-electronic TV picture (a simple straight line) with his image dissector tube; on perfecting the tube

    07:16

    On some of the first televised images - film strips; on Mary Pickford, Douglas Fairbanks Sr., and producer Joseph Schenck visiting Philo T. Farnsworth's lab to see television

    03:07

    On the press conference announcing electronic television and Philo being pursued by RCA; on famous visitors to Philo T. Farnsworth's lab, including Vladimir Zworykin

    08:41

    Chapter 6

    On the press conference announcing Philo's invention, contd.; on Philco licensing Farnsworth's television for an experimental television station; on Philo leaving Philco and setting up the Eastern Division of Television, Inc.

    17:26

    On Vladimir Zworykin at RCA copying Philo T. Farnsworth's image dissector for RCA's electronic television system; on public demonstrations of television 

    08:22

    Chapter 7

    On how young Philo conducted his research when he was a child living on a farm; on how her husband Philo T. Farnsworth used to solve problems while he slept

    07:33

    On RCA's David Sarnoff's attempts to buy Philo T. Farnsworth's patent for television; on Philo's experimental television station W3XPF and the man who ran it, Bill Eddy

    11:24

    On makeup and talent they featured on experimental television; on problems with intense lighting and lobbying for a commercial television license

    06:30

    Chapter 8

    On Philo's battle with RCA for electronic television's patents; on Philo's input on commercial broadcast standards for the United States

    19:38

    On the creation of the Farnsworth Radio and Television Corporation and their workings with John Logie Baird, creator of the mechanical spinning disc television system

    08:13

    Chapter 9

    On the formation of the Farnsworth Television and Radio Company; on Philo's poor health circa 1940 and the 1939-40 World's Fair

    14:28

    On the expiration of Philo T. Farnsworth's original television patents and the beginning of manufacturing television sets; on the International Telephone and Telegraph Company purchasing the company

    14:26

    Chapter 10

    On several of her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's inventions: baby incubator, electron microscope, and satellite technology; on Philo's camera tube being a part of the Apollo mission to the moon in 1969; on his work in fusion and hydroponics

    11:51

    On Philo being asked to work on the Manhattan Project and his phone call with Albert Einstein; on Philo's work on fusion

    08:06

    On Philo's dwindling health

    07:37

    Chapter 11

    On her husband Philo's work on fusion at the end of his life

    07:11

    On Philo's appearance on I've Got a Secret

    02:07

    On Philo's thoughts on commercial television towards the end of his life; on why history has largely forgotten Philo T. Farnsworth's name; on Philo's amazing achievements

    20:18

    Chapter 12

    On her husband Philo's achievements at such a young age; on his personality

    08:22

    On Philo's colleagues and family members

    10:03

    B-roll photos from her life with husband Philo T. Farnsworth

    09:33

    Emmy Awards, The (Primetime and Daytime)

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's colleagues, and Harry Lubcke naming the Emmy Awards after the image orthicon tube

    01:24

    I've Got a Secret

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's appearance on I've Got a Secret

    03:18

    1939-40 World's Fair

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth avoiding the television demonstration at the 1939 World's Fair

    01:25

    Creative Influences and Inspiration

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo reading Invention magazine as a child and first learning about mechanical television

    07:31

    Emmy Awards

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's colleagues, and Harry Lubcke naming the Emmy Awards after the image orthicon tube

    01:24

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth avoiding the television demonstration at the 1939 World's Fair

    01:25

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's camera tube being a part of the Apollo mission to the moon in 1969

    01:04

    Memorable Moments on Television

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's camera tube being a part of the Apollo mission to the moon in 1969

    01:04

    Moon Landing

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's camera tube being a part of the Apollo mission to the moon in 1969

    01:04

    Pivotal Career Moments

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo reading Invention magazine as a child and first learning about mechanical television

    07:31

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo patenting television in 1927

    05:35

    Elma Farnsworth on the reaction of her and her husband, inventor Philo T. Farnsworth (and colleagues Cliff Gardner and Carl Christensen), on September 7, 1927 when he produced the first all-electronic TV picture (a simple straight line) with his Image Dissector tube

    04:54

    Elma Farnsworth on Vladimir Zworykin at RCA copying Philo T. Farnsworth's image dissector for RCA's electronic television system

    00:52

    Elma Farnsworth on Philo T. Farnsworth demonstrating television at the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia - the first public demonstration of television in 1934

    07:30

    Elma Farnsworth on Philo T. Farnsworth's dollar sign demonstration of television for his financial backers

    01:05

    Elma Farnsworth on RCA licensing Philo T. Farnsworth's patents in 1939 - the first time RCA ever licensed a patent 

    08:35

    Elma Farnsworth on the expiration of Philo T. Farnsworth's original television patents and the beginning of manufacturing television sets

    09:49

    Technological Innovation

    Elma Farnsworth on Philo's idea for electronic television

    01:46

    Elma Farnsworth on moving to Los Angeles with Philo T. Farnsworth to set up a laboratory

    02:58

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo patenting television in 1927

    05:35

    Elma Farnsworth on the reaction of her and her husband, inventor Philo T. Farnsworth (and colleagues Cliff Gardner and Carl Christensen), on September 7, 1927 when he produced the first all-electronic TV picture (a simple straight line) with his Image Dissector tube

    04:54

    Elma Farnsworth on the drawbacks to mechanical disc television and the obstacles Philo encountered when creating electronic television

    01:43

    Elma Farnsworth on Vladimir Zworykin at RCA copying Philo T. Farnsworth's image dissector for RCA's electronic television system

    00:52

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth lobbying for a commercial television license

    01:23

    Elma Farnsworth on how certain fabrics transmitted on experimental television and problems with lighting

    02:08

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's battle with RCA for electronic television's patents

    06:10

    Elma Farnsworth on RCA licensing Philo T. Farnsworth's patents in 1939 - the first time RCA ever licensed a patent 

    08:35

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's input on commercial broadcast standards for the United States

    01:13

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's camera tube being a part of the Apollo mission to the moon in 1969

    01:04

    Television Industry

    Elma Farnsworth on moving to Los Angeles with Philo T. Farnsworth to set up a laboratory

    02:58

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo patenting television in 1927

    05:35

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth avoiding the television demonstration at the 1939 World's Fair

    01:25

    Inventor

    Elma Farnsworth on Philo's idea for electronic television

    01:46

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo patenting television in 1927

    05:35

    Elma Farnsworth on the reaction of her and her husband, inventor Philo T. Farnsworth (and colleagues Cliff Gardner and Carl Christensen), on September 7, 1927 when he produced the first all-electronic TV picture (a simple straight line) with his Image Dissector tube

    04:54

    Elma Farnsworth on the drawbacks to mechanical disc television and the obstacles Philo encountered when creating electronic television

    01:43

    Elma Farnsworth on how her husband Philo T. Farnsworth used to solved problems while he slept

    01:22

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's input on commercial broadcast standards for the United States

    01:13

    Technology Innovators

    Elma Farnsworth on Philo's idea for electronic television

    01:46

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo patenting television in 1927

    05:35

    Elma Farnsworth on the drawbacks to mechanical disc television and the obstacles Philo encountered when creating electronic television

    01:43

    Elma Farnsworth on the reaction of her and her husband, inventor Philo T. Farnsworth (and colleagues Cliff Gardner and Carl Christensen), on September 7, 1927 when he produced the first all-electronic TV picture (a simple straight line) with his Image Dissector tube

    04:54

    Elma Farnsworth on how her husband Philo T. Farnsworth used to solved problems while he slept

    01:22

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's input on commercial broadcast standards for the United States

    01:13

    Elma Farnsworth on several of her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's inventions: baby incubator, electron microscope, and satellite technology; on Philo's camera tube being a part of the Apollo mission to the moon in 1969; on his work in fusion and hydroponics

    11:51

    News and Documentary

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's camera tube being a part of the Apollo mission to the moon in 1969

    01:04

    John Logie Baird

    Elma Farnsworth on the creation of the Farnsworth Radio and Television Corporation and their workings with John Logie Baird, creator of the mechanical spinning disc television system

    08:13

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's colleagues and people he looked up to in the field; on demonstrating electronic television for John Logie Baird (inventor of mechanical television)

    05:33

    Albert Einstein

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's phone call with Albert Einstein and Einstein's advice to him

    02:07

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's phone call with Albert Einstein

    04:58

    George Everson

    Elma Farnsworth on Philo T. Farnsworth hiring George Everson, Les Gorrell, and Cliff Gardner 

    10:08

    Elma Farnsworth on George Everson raising funds for Philo T. Farnsworth's experimental television 

    08:58

    Elma Farnsworth on Philo T. Farnsworth and George Everson raising funds to work on inventing television and forming the company, Television, Inc.

    01:50

    Elma Farnsworth on the creation of the Farnsworth Radio and Television Corporation and their workings with John Logie Baird, creator of the mechanical spinning disc television system

    08:13

    Philo T. Farnsworth

    Elma Farnsworth on the story of the birth of her husband, Philo T. Farnsworth

    02:35

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's talents 

    01:04

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's photographic memory

    02:23

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's phone call with Albert Einstein

    02:07

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo entering a contest in a magazine

    02:11

    Elma Farnsworth on Philo's idea for electronic television

    01:46

    Elma Farnsworth on getting engaged to Philo T. Farnsworth

    05:24

    Elma Farnsworth on Philo T. Farnsworth telling her his idea for electronic television

    07:58

    Elma Farnsworth on Philo T. Farnsworth hiring George Everson, Les Gorrell, and Cliff Gardner; on getting married

    10:35

    Elma Farnsworth on moving to Los Angeles with Philo T. Farnsworth to set up a laboratory

    02:58

    Elma Farnsworth on police mistaking her husband Philo's lab for a home distillery

    02:46

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo patenting television in 1927

    05:35

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo getting funding, and setting up materials and personnel for inventing television; on her role in the creation of television

    08:49

    Elma Farnsworth on the reaction of her and her husband, inventor Philo T. Farnsworth (and colleagues Cliff Gardner and Carl Christensen), on September 7, 1927 when he produced the first all-electronic TV picture (a simple straight line) with his Image Dissector tube

    04:54

    Elma Farnsworth on Mary Pickford, Douglas Fairbanks Sr., and producer Joseph Schenck visiting Philo T. Farnsworth's lab to see television (where they surmised its threat to the movie industry) circa early-1930s

    01:44

    Elma Farnsworth on the drawbacks to mechanical disc television and the obstacles Philo encountered when creating electronic television

    01:43

    Elma Farnsworth on famous visitors to Philo T. Farnsworth's lab, including Vladimir Zworykin

    03:25

    Elma Farnsworth on Philo T. Farnsworth raising funds to work on inventing television and forming his company, Television, Inc.

    05:13

    Elma Farnsworth on Philo T. Farnsworth's dollar sign demonstration of television for his financial backers

    01:05

    Elma Farnsworth on public demonstrations of television to interest people in licensing Philo T. Farnsworth's patents; on Philco licensing Farnsworth's television for an experimental television station and Phil leaving the company

    06:13

    Elma Farnsworth on Philo T. Farnsworth starting the Eastern division of Television, Inc., the patents the company held, and Philo's aspirations for television

    04:55

    Elma Farnsworth on Philo T. Farnsworth demonstrating television at the Franklin Institute in Philadelphia - the first public demonstration of television in 1934

    07:30

    Elma Farnsworth on how young Philo balanced conducting research and doing chores while growing up on a farm

    05:23

    Elma Farnsworth on how her husband Philo T. Farnsworth used to solve problems while he slept

    01:22

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth putting her image on television

    00:48

    Elma Farnsworth on RCA's David Sarnoff's attempts to buy Philo T. Farnsworth's patent for television

    03:49

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth lobbying for a commercial television license

    01:23

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's battle with RCA for electronic television's patents

    06:10

    Elma Farnsworth on RCA licensing Philo T. Farnsworth's patents in 1939 - the first time RCA ever licensed a patent 

    08:35

    Elma Farnsworth on the creation of the Farnsworth Radio and Television Corporation and their workings with John Logie Baird, creator of the mechanical spinning disc television system

    08:13

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's difficulties with disloyal personnel and the formation of the Farnsworth Television and Radio Company

    04:57

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's poor health circa 1940

    05:33

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth avoiding the television demonstration at the 1939 World's Fair

    01:25

    Elma Farnsworth on the expiration of Philo T. Farnsworth's original television patents and the beginning of manufacturing television sets

    09:49

    Elma Farnsworth on the International Telephone and Telegraph Company purchasing Farnsworth Television and Radio Company and Philo T. Farnsworth working on satellites and space exploration

    01:59

    Elma Farnsworth on several of her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's inventions, including the baby incubator

    02:40

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's camera tube being a part of the Apollo mission to the moon in 1969

    01:04

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's fusion and hydroponic work, and his love of science fiction

    07:04

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth being asked to work on the Manhattan Project

    01:33

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's phone call with Albert Einstein

    04:58

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's work on fusion at the end of his life

    06:00

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's appearance on I've Got a Secret  (the same night Buster Keaton was on the program)

    03:18

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's thoughts on commercial television towards the end of his life

    00:49

    Elma Farnsworth on why history has largely forgotten her husband, Philo T. Farnsworth, inventor of electronic television

    03:08

    Elma Farnsworth on what she thinks her husband Philo T. Farnsworth might have changed if he had the chance to do so; on whether or not an underdog can win in the American system

    03:33

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's determination and spirit

    01:02

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's achievements with electronic television

    06:16

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's achievements at such a young age

    02:08

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's personality and strengths

    06:14

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's colleagues

    01:43

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's colleagues and people he looked up to in the field; on demonstrating electronic television for John Logie Baird (inventor of mechanical television)

    05:35

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's family members and their contributions to his work

    02:47

    Elma Farnsworth on a photo of a statue of her husband Philo T. Farnsworth holding an image dissector tube

    00:59

    Elma Farnsworth on a photo of her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's television demonstration at the Franklin Institute

    01:31

    Buster Keaton

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's appearance on I've Got a Secret  (the same night Buster Keaton was on the program)

    00:57

    Harry Lubcke

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's colleagues, and Harry Lubcke naming the Emmy Awards after the image orthicon tube

    01:27

    Garry Moore

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's appearance on I've Got a Secret  (the same night Buster Keaton was on the program)

    03:18

    Mary Pickford

    Elma Farnsworth on Mary Pickford, Douglas Fairbanks Sr., and producer Joseph Schenck visiting Philo T. Farnsworth's lab to see television (where they surmised its threat to the movie industry) circa early-1930s

    02:11

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth giving Mary Pickford a demonstration of his television system

    02:04

    Don Pike

    Elma Farnsworth on a photo of Don Pike using an early Farnsworth television camera

    01:24

    David Sarnoff

    Elma Farnsworth on RCA's David Sarnoff's attempts to buy Philo T. Farnsworth's patent for television

    03:49

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's battle with RCA for electronic television's patents

    06:10

    Elma Farnsworth on RCA licensing Philo T. Farnsworth's patents in 1939 - the first time RCA ever licensed a patent 

    08:35

    Joseph Schenck

    Elma Farnsworth on Mary Pickford, Douglas Fairbanks Sr., and producer Joseph Schenck visiting Philo T. Farnsworth's lab to see television (where they surmised its threat to the movie industry) circa early-1930s

    01:44

    Douglas Fairbanks, Sr.

    Elma Farnsworth on Mary Pickford, Douglas Fairbanks Sr., and producer Joseph Schenck visiting Philo T. Farnsworth's lab to see television (where they surmised its threat to the movie industry) circa early-1930s

    02:11

    Vladimir Zworykin

    Elma Farnsworth on famous visitors to Philo T. Farnsworth's lab, including Vladimir Zworykin

    03:25

    Elma Farnsworth on Vladimir Zworykin at RCA copying Philo T. Farnsworth's image dissector for RCA's electronic television system

    00:52

    Elma Farnsworth on her husband Philo T. Farnsworth's battle with RCA for electronic television's patents

    06:10

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