"All my life I've been trained as a composer and it's something that gives me the deepest and most consistent pleasure."

    About This Interview

    In the half-hour solo portion of his interview, Charles Strouse (1928-2025) talks about his early childhood and influences. He details his musical education, including the Eastman School of Music and his studies under Aaron Copland. He discusses his first professional credit on Broadway, his work on Bye Bye Birdie and Annie, and his favorite compositions. 

    In the hour-and-a-half joint portion of their interview, Lee Adams and Charles Strouse discuss their musical collaborations. Strouse and Adams discuss writing music and lyrics for Broadway plays including their hit, Bye Bye Birdie, Golden Boy (starring Sammy Davis, Jr.), and Applause (an adaptation of All About Eve). The pair then talk about their composition of one of the most well-remembered television theme songs of all time, All in the Family's "Those Were the Days." They offer advice to aspiring composers and lyricists, and talk about taking time off from their partnership. They also speak of their Emmy-winning song "Let's Settle Down" which was written for a 1995 television movie version of Bye Bye Birdie, starring Vanessa Williams and Jason Alexander. Karen Herman conducted the interviews on November 10, 2005 in New York, NY.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Charles Strouse on composing for the play "Annie" and the story behind the hit song "Tomorrow"

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    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on "Bye Bye Birdie" as a commentary on the then-state of Rock 'N Roll

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    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on their idea for "Those Were The Days" - the title song to All in the Family

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    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on Jay-Z's cover of Strouse's "Hard Knock Life" from "Annie"

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    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on Jean Stapleton and Carroll O'Connor performing "Those Were The Days" - the title song to All in the Family

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    Chapter 1

    On his childhood and early influences; on always having rhythm; on applying to and attending music school

    11:26

    On studying under Aaron Copland; on studying in Paris; on being a choreographic pianist

    04:39

    On his first professional credit on Broadway; on scoring the plays "Bye Bye Birdie" and "Annie"; on favorite songs he composed

    12:17

    Chapter 2

    START OF JOINT INTERVIEW WITH LEE ADAMS AND CHARLES STROUSE: On when and how they met and became partners; on their collaborative process

    06:31

    On writing the play "Bye Bye Birdie;" on the original Broadway version and the television version; on the song "Put on a Happy Face"

    14:13

    On winning a Tony award; on the film and television versions of "Bye Bye Birdie" and the play's sequel

    07:03

    Chapter 3

    On how "Bye Bye Birdie" helped their career; on their plays, "The American" and "Golden Boy" (the latter starring Sammy Davis, Jr.); on the play "It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's Superman" and what makes a good Broadway play

    12:50

    On writing the title song to All In the Family; on the publishing rights and lyrics to "Those Were the Days"

    16:32

    Chapter 4

    On audience response to the theme song to All in the Family; on the legacy of the song and the series; on covers of their songs that they've enjoyed

    08:09

    On other work they did for television; on music for the play "Applause" and walking away from their partnership for a while; on their music for the play "Marty"

    10:23

    On their favorite stories about each other; on how they'd like to be remembered

    10:14

    All in the Family

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on writing the theme to All in the Family

    03:14

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on their idea for "Those Were The Days" - the title song to All in the Family

    00:46

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on writing the lyrics to "Those Were The Days" - the title song to All in the Family

    00:57

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on Jean Stapleton and Carroll O'Connor performing "Those Were The Days" - the title song to All in the Family

    02:27

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on the publishing rights to "Those Were The Days" - the title song to All in the Family

    00:56

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on Jean Stapleton and Carroll O'Connor performing "Those Were The Days" - the title song to All in the Family

    01:13

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on the success of All in the Family

    00:35

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on their process for creating "Those Were The Days" - the title song to All in the Family

    00:44

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on the sheet music for "Those Were The Days" - the title song to All in the Family

    00:47

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on what their song "Those Were The Days" - the title song to All in the Family - meant to 1970's audiences

    02:15

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on how their song "Those Were The Days" - the title song to All in the Family - softened "Archie Bunker"

    00:57

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on presenting their song "Those Were The Days" - the title song to All in the Family - to Norman Lear

    01:08

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on audience response to the theme song to All in the Family

    03:07

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on the legacy of theme song to All in the Family and of the series itself

    02:13

    Bye Bye Birdie

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on the television version of Bye Bye Birdie

    02:02

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on their involvement with the television version of Bye Bye Birdie

    00:50

    Goldbergs, The

    Charles Strouse on playing piano for The Goldbergs and Your Show of Shows

    01:14

    Characters & Catchphrases

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on how their song "Those Were The Days" - the title song to All in the Family - softened "Archie Bunker"

    00:57

    Creative Influences and Inspiration

    Charles Strouse on influential teachers at music school

    02:35

    Pop Culture

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on "Bye Bye Birdie" as a commentary on the then-state of Rock 'N Roll

    01:33

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on how their song "Those Were The Days" - the title song to All in the Family - softened "Archie Bunker"

    00:57

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on writing the theme song to All in the Family

    16:32

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on audience response to the theme song to All in the Family

    02:47

    Rock 'n' Roll on TV (1950s & '60s)

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on "Bye Bye Birdie" as a commentary on the then-state of Rock 'N Roll

    01:33

    TV Theme Songs

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on writing the theme song to All in the Family

    16:32

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on audience response to the theme song to All in the Family

    02:47

    Composer

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on their collaborative process

    01:43

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on what makes for the best Broadway musical and how they work together

    01:37

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on advice to aspiring musical collaborators

    02:40

    Lyricist

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on their collaborative process

    01:43

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on what makes for the best Broadway musical and how they work together

    01:37

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on advice to aspiring musical collaborators

    02:40

    Music Professionals

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on their collaborative process

    01:43

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on their collaborative process

    01:43

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on what makes for the best Broadway musical and how they work together

    01:37

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on what makes for the best Broadway musical and how they work together

    01:37

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on advice to aspiring musical collaborators

    02:40

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on advice to aspiring musical collaborators

    02:40

    Comedy Series

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on writing the theme song to All in the Family

    16:32

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on audience response to the theme song to All in the Family

    02:47

    Lee Adams

    Charles Strouse on his first professional credit on Broadway - "Bye Bye Birdie"

    00:29

    Charles Strouse on partnering with fellow composer Lee Adams

    00:29

    Charles Strouse on his favorite of his scores - "Golden Boy," composed with Lee Adams

    01:52

    Lauren Bacall

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on casting Lauren Bacall in the play "Applause" - an adaptation of All About Eve

    00:57

    Burt Bacharach

    Charles Strouse on his friendship with fellow composer "Happy" Burt Bacharach

    00:34

    Gertrude Berg

    Charles Strouse on meeting the cast of The Goldbergs

    00:33

    Mel Brooks

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on the play, "The American" - written with Mel Brooks

    02:17

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on writing a song for Mel Brooks' "When Things Were Rotten"

    00:37

    Sammy Davis, Jr.

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on the play "Golden Boy" starring Sammy Davis, Jr.

    05:14

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on depicting the African-American experience in the play "Golden Boy" starring Sammy Davis, Jr.

    01:18

    Norman Lear

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on writing the theme to All in the Family

    07:24

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on presenting their song "Those Were The Days" - the title song to All in the Family - to Norman Lear

    01:08

    Jack Lemmon

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on the cast of the original Broadway run of "Bye Bye Birdie"

    02:59

    Joshua Logan

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on the play, "The American" - directed by Joshua Logan

    02:17

    Paul Lynde

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on the cast of the original Broadway run of "Bye Bye Birdie"

    00:06

    Joseph L. Mankiewicz

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on music for the play "Applause"

    01:03

    Carroll O'Connor

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on Jean Stapleton and Carroll O'Connor performing "Those Were The Days" - the title song to All in the Family

    02:27

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on Jean Stapleton and Carroll O'Connor performing "Those Were The Days" - the title song to All in the Family

    01:13

    Arthur Penn

    Charles Strouse on composing for Arthur Penn's "Bonnie and Clyde"

    03:24

    Elvis Presley

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on "Bye Bye Birdie" as a commentary on the then-state of Rock 'N Roll

    01:33

    Jean Stapleton

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on Jean Stapleton and Carroll O'Connor performing "Those Were The Days" - the title song to All in the Family

    02:27

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on Jean Stapleton and Carroll O'Connor performing "Those Were The Days" - the title song to All in the Family

    01:13

    Dick Van Dyke

    Lee Adams and Charles Strouse on the cast of the original Broadway run of "Bye Bye Birdie"

    02:59

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