"I can't write a character unless I love them. And if I love them, it means that I've taken their flaws and their faults, too. I wish I could do that 100% in real life."

    About This Interview

    In her two-and-a-half-hour interview, Treva Silverman talks about her early interests and the first time she recalls getting a laugh, at age six. She describes her early career in comedy, writing for television specials and working as a writer for Joan Rivers. She discusses her work as a writer on the popular 1960s series The Monkees, commenting on the characterizations created for each performer and the process of writing series episodes. She speaks about her writing for the 1960s series Captain Nice and He & She, both of which were well-received but short-lived, as well as the landmark drama Room 222. Silverman speaks in great detail about The Mary Tyler Moore Show, for which she won the Emmy for Outstanding Writing in a Comedy Series and Writer of the Year (Series) in 1974. She talks about working with series creators James L. Brooks and Allan Burns and the fact that the show observed no pecking order with the writers ("the best line wins"). She talks about the creation of the "Georgette" character (played by Georgia Engel) and many of "Rhoda's" (Valerie Harper) traits and storylines being based on her own personal life. She details such classic episodes as "Today I Am a Ma'am," "Rhoda the Beautiful," and "The Lou and Edie Story." She then talks about her semi-retirement from writing and her later contributions to writing television and films. Allan Neuwirth conducted the interview on September 18, 2007 in Los Angeles, CA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Chapter 1

    On her early life and influences; on her early exposure to the entertainment world, and on being a child musical prodigy; on her earliest experiences seeing television

    12:38

    On meeting Joan Rivers; on meeting James L. Brooks; on writing for the variety series The Entertainers, starring Carol Burnett

    15:47

    Chapter 2

    On writing for The Dean Martin Show; on the challenges of being the only female on the writing staff of The Dean Martin Show

    04:50

    On writing for The Monkees; on The Monkees producers Bob Rafelson and Bert Schneider; on being the only female writer to work on The Monkees

    08:06

    On the songs of The Monkees, and on the popularity of the show; on using a pen-name on an episode of The Monkees; on specific episodes of The Monkees she wrote

    11:49

    On The Monkees winning Emmy Awards, and on the end of the show; on writing for Captain Nice, created by Buck Henry

    03:21

    Chapter 3

    On decisions made on The Monkees being influenced by the Marx Brothers' "controlled comic anarchy"; on Captain Nice with Buck Henry; on writing for Get Smart and He & She

    13:20

    On winning a Writers Guild Award for writing a special on Norman Rockwell; on writing on Room 222 for producer James L. Brooks; on how she came to write for The Mary Tyler Moore Show for James L. Brooks

    17:08

    Chapter 4

    On writing for That Girl, starring Marlo Thomas; on writing The Mary Tyler Moore Show's "Rhoda Morgenstern," played by Valerie Harper, and on the female characters of the show; on the male writing staff of The Mary Tyler Moore Show, and helping them write for female characters

    12:04

    On the development of the characters on The Mary Tyler Moore Show; on creating the character of "Georgette," played by Georgia Engel, on The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    07:52

    On working with James L. Brooks on The Mary Tyler Moore Show; on working with Grant Tinker on The Mary Tyler Moore Show; on working with Mary Tyler Moore on The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    08:58

    Chapter 5

    On Jay Sandrich directing The Mary Tyler Moore Show; on writing the The Mary Tyler Moore Show episode "Rhoda the Beautiful"; on writing the The Mary Tyler Moore Show episode "The Lou and Edie Story," featuring Ed Asner as "Lou Grant"

    07:18

    On writing for great actors like the ones on The Mary Tyler Moore Show; on winning the "Super" Emmy Award for writing "The Lou and Edie Story" for The Mary Tyler Moore Show; on how The Mary Tyler Moore Show reflected its era and on leaving the show

    12:57

    On then-current projects; on how the role of women has changed since she started in television; on advice to aspiring comedy writers

    03:54

    On what she would like to be remembered for; on being the first female writer to win an Emmy Award; on her involvement in the feature film "Romancing the Stone"

    04:27

    Captain Nice

    Treva Silverman on writing for Captain Nice, created by Buck Henry

    00:56

    Treva Silverman on Captain Nice, created by Buck Henry

    04:59

    Dean Martin Show, The

    Treva Silverman on writing for The Dean Martin Show

    02:57

    Treva Silverman on the challenges of being the only female on the writing staff of The Dean Martin Show

    01:53

    Entertainers, The

    Treva Silverman on writing for the variety series The Entertainers, starring Carol Burnett

    10:48

    Get Smart

    Treva Silverman on writing for Get Smart and He & She

    05:23

    Mary Tyler Moore Show, The

    Treva Silverman on how she came to write for The Mary Tyler Moore Show for James L. Brooks

    06:27

    Treva Silverman on writing The Mary Tyler Moore Show's "Rhoda Morgenstern," played by Valerie Harper, and on the female characters of the show

    03:53

    Treva Silverman on the male writing staff of The Mary Tyler Moore Show, and helping them write for female characters

    03:36

    Treva Silverman on the development of the characters on The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    03:05

    Treva Silverman on creating the character of "Georgette," played by Georgia Engel, on The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    04:46

    Treva Silverman on working with James L. Brooks on The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    06:30

    Treva Silverman on working with Grant Tinker on The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    01:26

    Treva Silverman on working with Mary Tyler Moore on The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    01:02

    Treva Silverman on Jay Sandrich directing The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    02:04

    Treva Silverman on writing the The Mary Tyler Moore Show episode "Rhoda the Beautiful"

    02:33

    Treva Silverman on writing the The Mary Tyler Moore Show episode "The Lou and Edie Story," featuring Ed Asner as "Lou Grant"

    02:41

    Treva Silverman on writing for great actors like the ones on The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    01:51

    Treva Silverman on submitting Mary Tyler Moore Show scripts for Emmy consideration

    02:14

    Treva Silverman on winning the "Super" Emmy Award for writing "The Lou and Edie Story" for The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    05:03

    Treva Silverman on how The Mary Tyler Moore Show reflected its era, and on leaving the show

    03:47

    Monkees, The

    Treva Silverman on writing for The Monkees

    05:52

    Treva Silverman on The Monkees producers Bob Rafelson and Bert Schneider

    00:53

    Treva Silverman on being the only female writer to work on The Monkees

    01:21

    Treva Silverman on the songs of The Monkees, and on the popularity of the show

    06:49

    Treva Silverman on using a pen-name on an episode of The Monkees

    01:52

    Treva Silverman on specific episodes of The Monkees she wrote

    03:08

    Treva Silverman on The Monkees winning Emmy Awards, and on the end of the show

    02:25

    Treva Silverman on decisions made on The Monkees being influenced by the Marx Brothers' "controlled comic anarchy"

    02:58

    Room 222

    Treva Silverman on writing on Room 222 for producer James L. Brooks

    07:24

    That Girl

    Treva Silverman on writing for That Girl, starring Marlo Thomas

    04:35

    Advice

    Treva Silverman on advice to aspiring comedy writers

    02:10

    Characters & Catchphrases

    Treva Silverman on creating the character of "Georgette," played by Georgia Engel, on The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    04:46

    Emmy Awards

    Treva Silverman on The Monkees winning Emmys, and on the end of the show

    02:27

    Treva Silverman on being the first female writer to win an Emmy

    01:23

    Treva Silverman on winning the "Super Emmy" for writing "The Lou and Edie Story" for The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    05:03

    Treva Silverman on submitting Mary Tyler Moore Show scripts for Emmy consideration

    02:14

    First Big Break

    Treva Silverman on writing for the variety series The Entertainers, starring Carol Burnett

    10:48

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Treva Silverman on the challenges of being the only female on the writing staff of The Dean Martin Show

    01:53

    Treva Silverman on being the only female writer to work on The Monkees

    01:21

    Treva Silverman on writing The Mary Tyler Moore Show's "Rhoda Morgenstern," played by Valerie Harper, and on the female characters of the show

    03:53

    Treva Silverman on the male writing staff of The Mary Tyler Moore Show, and helping them write for female characters

    03:36

    Treva Silverman on how the role of women has changed since she started in television

    00:52

    Treva Silverman on being the first female writer to win an Emmy Award

    01:23

    Pivotal Career Moments

    Treva Silverman on writing for the variety series The Entertainers, starring Carol Burnett

    10:48

    Pop Culture

    Treva Silverman on creating the character of "Georgette," played by Georgia Engel, on The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    04:46

    Representation on Television

    Treva Silverman on the challenges of being the only female on the writing staff of The Dean Martin Show

    01:53

    Treva Silverman on being the only female writer to work on The Monkees

    01:21

    Treva Silverman on writing The Mary Tyler Moore Show's "Rhoda Morgenstern," played by Valerie Harper, and on the female characters of the show

    03:53

    Treva Silverman on the male writing staff of The Mary Tyler Moore Show, and helping them write for female characters

    03:36

    Treva Silverman on how the role of women has changed since she started in television

    00:52

    Treva Silverman on being the first female writer to win an Emmy Award

    01:23

    Television Industry

    Treva Silverman on advice to aspiring comedy writers

    02:10

    Women

    Treva Silverman on the challenges of being the only female on the writing staff of The Dean Martin Show

    01:53

    Treva Silverman on being the only female writer to work on The Monkees

    01:21

    Treva Silverman on writing The Mary Tyler Moore Show's "Rhoda Morgenstern," played by Valerie Harper, and on the female characters of the show

    03:53

    Treva Silverman on the male writing staff of The Mary Tyler Moore Show, and helping them write for female characters

    03:36

    Treva Silverman on how the role of women has changed since she started in television

    00:52

    Treva Silverman on being the first female writer to win an Emmy Award

    01:23

    Writers

    Treva Silverman on the development of the characters on The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    03:06

    Treva Silverman on writing for great actors like the ones on The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    01:51

    Treva Silverman on advice to aspiring comedy writers

    02:10

    Comedy Series

    Treva Silverman on writing for The Monkees

    22:22

    Treva Silverman on writing for Captain Nice, created by Buck Henry

    00:56

    Treva Silverman on decisions made on The Monkees being influenced by the Marx Brothers' "controlled comic anarchy"

    02:58

    Treva Silverman on Captain Nice

    04:59

    Treva Silverman on writing for Get Smart and He & She

    05:23

    Treva Silverman on writing on Room 222 for producer James L. Brooks

    07:24

    Treva Silverman on how she came to write for The Mary Tyler Moore Show for James L. Brooks

    06:23

    Treva Silverman on writing for The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    24:19

    Treva Silverman on The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    20:15

    Music Shows & Variety Shows/Specials

    Treva Silverman on writing for The Dean Martin Show

    04:50

    Edward Asner

    on writing the The Mary Tyler Moore Show episode "The Lou and Edie Story," featuring Ed Asner as "Lou Grant"

    02:41

    James L. Brooks

    Treva Silverman on meeting James L. Brooks

    01:37

    Treva Silverman on writing for Room 222 for producer James L. Brooks

    07:24

    Treva Silverman on how she came to write for The Mary Tyler Moore Show for James L. Brooks

    06:23

    Treva Silverman on working with James L. Brooks on The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    06:30

    Carol Burnett

    Treva Silverman on writing for the variety series The Entertainers starring Carol Burnett

    10:48

    Georgia Engel

    Treva Silverman on creating the character of "Georgette," played by Georgia Engel, on The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    04:46

    Valerie Harper

    Treva Silverman on writing The Mary Tyler Moore Show's "Rhoda Morgenstern," played by Valerie Harper, and on the female characters of the show

    03:53

    Buck Henry

    Treva Silverman on writing for Captain Nice, created by Buck Henry

    00:56

    Treva Silverman on working on Buck Henry's Captain Nice

    04:59

    Dean Martin

    Treva Silverman on writing for The Dean Martin Show

    04:50

    Mary Tyler Moore

    Treva Silverman on working with Mary Tyler Moore on The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    01:02

    Joan Rivers

    Treva Silverman on meeting Joan Rivers

    01:46

    Jay Sandrich

    Treva Silverman on Jay Sandrich directing The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    02:04

    Marlo Thomas

    Treva Silverman on writing for That Girl, starring Marlo Thomas

    04:35

    Grant Tinker

    Treva Silverman on working with Grant Tinker on The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    01:26

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