"If you're doing the race, you do 24 hours a day, nonstop, week after week, country after country, continent after continent. You're just constantly on the move. You get tired. You get exhausted. You get irritated. You get hungry. We take you to different climates. We take you from extreme hot to extreme cold … and we throw you around the world like you think you're in a Cuisinart with the button on 'mix'. And by the time they come home they say, 'what just happened to me in my life?'"

    About This Interview

    In the half-hour solo portion of his interview, Bertram van Munster chronicles his early childhood in Holland and his film work in Munich, Germany. He discusses moving to Los Angeles and working as a cinematographer with David Wolper on several TV shows, including Big Blue Marble and Candid Camera. He speaks of his work on National Geographic films, including Wild Things, and on Cops, and meeting and working with Elise Doganieri on those jobs. 

    In the three-hour joint portion of their interview, Bertram van Munster and Elise Doganieri talk about their work together on The Amazing Race. Doganieri reveals how the idea for The Amazing Race came about, and the pair detail the production of the show. They speak of shooting, casting, the challenges of overseas travel, working with non-actors, and the minutia of how the contestants are informed about "Pit Stops." They discuss memorable moments from the program and the importance of the show's host, Phil Keoghan. Doganieri and van Munster talk about the style and editing of the show, describe how they set up "clues," and comment on their favorite locations. They discuss the legacy of The Amazing Race and the show's propensity for winning awards, and offer why they think it remains so popular. Nancy Harrington conducted the interview on December 20, 2012 in Los Angeles, CA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Chapter 1

    On his childhood in Holland and education in Munich; on working as an assistant on film shoots

    59:59

    On his first job as a cameraman with Fox Movietone news; on covering the news and major sporting events; on shooting commercials; on the film industry in Holland

    54:19

    On meeting David Wolper and working on National Geographic specials as a cinematographer; on coming to the U.S; on his first job on U.S. television on Big Blue Marble; on directing Looking for Jango Edwards, a TV movie; on working on Candid Camera as a camera operator

    48:23

    On working with producers John Langley and Jerry Bruckheimer on Cops as a field producer; on creating the show Wild Things for National Geographic

    42:06

    On meeting Elise Dogonieri; on his legacy in television; on how cinematography has changed

    29:06

    Chapter 2

    Start of joint interview with Elise Doganieri; on coming up with the idea for The Amazing Race; on how it changed the genre of longform storytelling; on why they think the show is compelling to viewers

    59:57

    On the format of The Amazing Race and how it is produced and shot; on the show's contestants and its title; on working with Les Moonves; on the show's biggest challenges

    47:18

    On how 9/11 impacted The Amazing Race; on the show's budget; on how they pick locations; on where they would still like to shoot

    32:41

    On The Amazing Race's host Phil Keoghan; on how his role is different from other reality show hosts; on how casting is key to the show's success

    11:33

    Chapter 3

    On casting The Amazing Race; on working with non-actors

    04:00

    On the "Pit Stops"; on rules for crew members and staff on the show; on the style and look of the show; on editing and the role of writers

    54:10

    On setting up clues for The Amazing Race; on what contestants can and cannot use on the show

    29:58

    On their favorite locations they have shot The Amazing Race at; on how they keep the results secret; on why the show wins Emmy Awards

    19:20

    On the impact of the Internet on the show and the future of The Amazing Race; on the show's legacy

    08:08

    Chapter 4

    On establishing Profiles Television Productions, LLC in 2003; on the show Profiles from the Front Line

    59:33

    On creating/producing The Big Give with Oprah Winfrey, Take the Money and Run, and The Great Escape; on current projects 

    00:00

    On advice to aspiring producers and the role of an executive producer

    47:30

    Amazing Race, The

    Elise Doganieri on coming up with the idea for The Amazing Race and how it changed longform storytelling

    06:07

    Elise Doganieri and Bertram van Munster on what they each contribute to The Amazing Race and on why the show is compelling to viewers

    53:06

    Elise Doganieri and Bertram van Munster on why they believe The Amazing Race is compelling to viewers

    50:40

    Elise Doganieri and Bertram van Munster on how The Amazing Race has changed the perception of America to the world; and altered American's views of other countries

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    Elise Doganieri and Bertram van Munster on the format of The Amazing Race: on why the participants must know each other before the show; on what it is like filming the show

    47:18

    Elise Doganieri and Bertram van Munster on coming up with The Amazing Race show title

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    Elise Doganieri and Bertram van Munster on the biggest challenges in filming and producing The Amazing Race; on  unexpected complications with flights and other complications; on the crew and contestants not sleeping

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    Elise Doganieri and Bertram van Munster on choosing locations for The Amazing Race  and scouting in foreign countries

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    Elise Doganieri and Bertram van Munster on The Amazing Race' s host Phil Keoghan; on how his role is different from other reality show hosts

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    Elise Doganieri and Bertram van Munster on the importance of casting on The Amazing Race' s and why people want to be on it

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    Elise Doganieri and Bertram van Munster on the "Pit Stop" on The Amazing Race; on rules for crew and staff

    54:10

    Elise Doganieri and Bertram van Munster on the post-production on The Amazing Race and the role of writers

    40:27

    Elise Doganieri and Bertram van Munster on how clues are given on The Amazing Race; on what contestants are given and what they can/cannot use on the show 

    29:58

    Big Give, The

    Elise Doganieri and Bertram van Munster on executive producing The Big Give along with Oprah Winfrey and Ellen Rakieten with host Nate Berkus

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    Candid Camera

    Bertram van Munster on working with Allen Funt on Candid Camera as a camera operator

    43:29

    Cops

    Bertram Van Munster on working on Cops as a field producer with producer John Langley

    08:04

    Great Escape, The

    Elise Doganieri and Bertram van Munster on executive producing The Great Escape with Ron Howard and Brian Grazer

    53:30

    Profiles from the Front Line

    Elise Doganieri and Bertram van Munster on their show Profiles from the Front Line, chronicling the war in Afghanistan 

    59:33

    Take the Money & Run

    Elise Doganieri and Bertram van Munster on executive producing the reality series Take the Money & Run along with Jerry Bruckheimer

    55:23

    Wild Things

    Bertram van Munster on creating and producing the show Wild Things for National Geographic

    34:02

    9/11

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    Camera Operator

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    40:44

    Bertram van Munster on how the camera is an extension of your eye

    01:54

    Producers

    Elise Doganieri and Bertram van Munster on advice to aspiring producers and the role of an executive producer

    47:30

    Reality TV

    Bertram van Munster on creating/producing Wild Things  and working on a wildlife series that focuses on exotic animals and how it changed the genre

    34:02

    Elise Doganieri and Bertram van Munster on why The Amazing Race wins Emmy Awards; on the legacy of the show

    09:36

    Service Shows

    Bertram van Munster on creating/producing Wild Things and working on a wildlife series that focuses on exotic animals and how it changed the genre

    34:02

    Jerry Bruckheimer

    Elise Doganieri and Bertram van Munster on working with producer Jerry Bruckheimer

    01:37

    Allen Funt

    Bertram van Munster on working with Allen Funt on Candid Camera  as a camera operator

    01:19

    Phil Keoghan

    Elise Doganieri and Bertram van Munster on The Amazing Race' s host Phil Keoghan; on how his role is different from other reality show hosts

    11:32

    John Langley

    Bertram van Munster on the advice Cops producer John Langley gave him: "never bring a tripod"

    01:53

    Leslie Moonves

    Elise Doganieri and Bertram van Munster on working with Les Moonves 

    40:56

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