“What I love about writing for television - for example I once wrote a World War I flying sketch for The Smothers Brothers. The following week, I went down to the set and there on the stage was a detailed World War I flying barracks. All you have to do is write it. And they make it.”

    About This Interview

    In his five-and-a-half-hour interview, Carl Gottlieb talks about his early years, and joining The Committee improv group in San Francisco. He discusses working with various members of that group, including Peter Bonerz, Del Close, and Avery Schreiber, and later collaborating with Howard Hesseman and Rob Reiner. He recounts writing for The Summer Brothers Smothers Show, which lead to a writing job on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour. Gottlieb recalls the tumultuous years on that show, including fights between CBS and the Smothers, which eventually led to the cancellation of the show. He speaks of working on several Flip Wilson Specials, which included Wilson, Peter Sellers, Richard Pryor, and Lily Tomlin. He describes a short stint writing for The Odd Couple, which he left to write the screenplay for Steven Spielberg’s classic Jaws. He recounts also working on the features The Jerk and Caveman, which starred Ringo Starr. He concludes with a discussion of the craft of writing, and his career highlights and regrets. Dan Pasternack conducted the interview in a joint venture with the Writers Guild Foundation on October 24, 2018 in North Hollywood, CA.

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    Chapter 1

    On his early life and influences; on radio and television shows he listened to and watched while growing up

    16:36

    On performing comedy shows in the Army with Larry Hankin; on being part of The Committee improv comedy group; on the San Francisco comedy scene in the mid-1960s

    10:22

    On The Committee establishing a theater in San Francisco; on the members of The Committee improv group, including Peter Bonerz, Del Close, John Brent and Avery Schreiber; on going to New York, but returning to San Francisco to work on long-form improv at The Committee's new theater

    15:34

    On working with Peter Bonerz, Howard Hesseman, and Del Close at The Committee improv group; on the sociopolitical content of his work in The Committee improv group, which led him into being a writer

    15:11

    Chapter 2

    On how improv skills dovetail with writing skills; on The Committee in Los Angeles, and on Rob Reiner being part of a new improv group

    18:43

    On being hired to write for The Summer Brothers Smothers Show; on making the transition from writing supervisor of The Summer Brothers Smothers Show to writing supervisor of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, and on Tom Smothers becoming more of a hands-on producer in the third season

    07:24

    On working with Steve Martin in the writers room at The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour; on the music sensibility of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour; on the friendship between the writers on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, including Rob Reiner, John Hartford, Steve Martin, Bob Einstein, and non-show writer Albert Brooks (Einstein's brother)

    07:45

    On teaming up with Lorenzo Music on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour to write monologues for the Smothers, and long-form sketches for guest-stars like Bob Newhart; on working with writer Murray Roman on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour; on getting his jokes and sketches on air on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour

    14:43

    On Tom Smothers battling CBS Standards & Practices department over the content of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour; on Tom Smothers holding back the master tapes of episode of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour so that they could not be censored by CBS; on CBS approving the content of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour at various stages of production

    11:34

    On the cancellation of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour; on David Steinberg's sermons on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour

    05:07

    On The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour winning Emmy Awards after it was cancelled; on the legacy of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour

    10:07

    Chapter 3

    On doing comedy advertising spots during The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson; on writing for a series of Flip Wilson Specials (along with Lorne Michaels) after the end of The Filp Wilson Show; on working with Richard Pryor on the 1974 Flip Wilson Special

    17:11

    On working with Peter Sellers on the Flip Wilson Specials; on Flip Wilson's character "Geraldine" not appearing in the Flip Wilson Specials; on writing for The Odd Couple

    15:28

    On writing the feature film "Jaws" for Steven Spielberg; on doing rewrites for "Jaws" on the fly during production, and on the production of the movie; on the USS Indianapolis Speech in "Jaws"

    20:00

    On the "bigger boat" line in "Jaws"; on the technical challenge of filming "Jaws"; on John Williams' score for "Jaws"

    17:02

    On the casting of "Jaws"; on Richard Dreyfus and Robert Shaw in "Jaws"; on the huge success of "Jaws"

    11:14

    On the impact "Jaws" had on his career; on the legacy of "Jaws"

    05:09

    On writing the Steve Martin film "The Jerk," directed by Carl Reiner

    15:29

    Chapter 4

    On directing the feature "Caveman," starring Ringo Starr

    16:02

    On what he loved about writing for television; on his writing process

    13:12

    On finding structure in his writing; on writing alone versus collaborating; on the process of editing and rewriting

    14:09

    On the Writers Guild of America; on mentorship; on advice to an aspiring writer

    21:19

    On the value of an education to a writer; on career achievements and regrets; on how he would like to be remembered

    12:47

    Emmy Awards, The (Primetime and Daytime)

    Carl Gottlieb on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour winning Emmys after it was cancelled

    03:11

    Flip Wilson Show, The

    Carl Gottlieb on writing for a series of Flip Wilson Specials (along with Lorne Michaels) after the end of The Filp Wilson Show

    05:05

    Carl Gottlieb on working with Richard Pryor on the 1974 Flip Wilson Special

    01:59

    Carl Gottlieb on working with Flip Wilson on the Flip Wilson Specials

    00:59

    Carl Gottlieb on working with Peter Sellers on the Flip Wilson Specials

    04:37

    Carl Gottlieb on Flip Wilson's character "Geraldine" not appearing in the Flip Wilson Specials

    00:58

    Odd Couple, The (1970-75)

    Carl Gottlieb on writing for The Odd Couple

    07:14

    Carl Gottlieb on working for Garry Marshall and Jerry Belson on The Odd Couple

    02:32

    Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, The

    Carl Gottlieb on making the transition from writing supervisor of The Summer Brothers Smothers Show to writing supervisor of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour and on Tom Smothers becoming more of a hands-on producer in the third season

    01:11

    Carl Gottlieb on working with Rob Reiner in the writers room of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour

    00:47

    Carl Gottlieb on working with Steve Martin in the writers room at The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, and on Lenny Bruce's influence on comedy at that time

    02:39

    Carl Gottlieb on the music sensibility of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, given that many of the writers and performers on the show were musicians

    01:07

    Carl Gottlieb on the friendship between the writers on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, including Rob Reiner, John Hartford, Steve Martin, Bob Einstein, and non-show writer Albert Brooks (Einstein's brother)

    03:12

    Carl Gottlieb on teaming up with Lorenzo Music on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour to write monologues for the Smothers, and long-form sketches for guest-stars like Bob Newhart

    04:56

    Carl Gottlieb on working with writer Murray Roman on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour

    03:51

    Carl Gottlieb on getting his jokes and sketches on air on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour

    04:19

    Carl Gottlieb on Tom Smothers battling CBS Standards & Practices department over the content of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour

    04:57

    Carl Gottlieb on Tom Smothers holding back the master tapes of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour so that they could not be censored by CBS

    04:08

    Carl Gottlieb on CBS approving the content of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour at various stages of production

    02:29

    Carl Gottlieb on CBS cancelling The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour despite the show being in the top ten

    01:55

    Carl Gottlieb on David Steinberg's sermons on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour

    03:12

    Carl Gottlieb on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour winning Emmy Awards after it was cancelled

    03:11

    Carl Gottlieb on the legacy of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour

    06:56

    Summer Brothers Smothers Show, The

    Carl Gottlieb on being hired to write for The Summer Brothers Smothers Show

    04:00

    Carl Gottlieb on writing for Glenn Campbell, host of the The Summer Brothers Smothers Show

    02:13

    Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson, The

    Carl Gottlieb on doing comedy advertising spots during The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson

    09:08

    Advice

    Carl Gottlieb on advice to an aspiring writer

    04:24

    Censorship / Standards & Practices

    Carl Gottlieb on Tom Smothers battling CBS Standards & Practices department over the content of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour

    04:57

    Carl Gottlieb on Tom Smothers holding back the master tapes of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour so that they could not be censored by CBS

    04:08

    Creative Influences and Inspiration

    Carl Gottlieb on mentorship

    04:44

    Emmy Awards

    Carl Gottlieb on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour winning Emmys after it was cancelled

    03:11

    First Big Break

    Carl Gottlieb on being hired to write for The Summer Brothers Smothers Show

    04:00

    Pivotal Career Moments

    Carl Gottlieb on being hired to write for The Summer Brothers Smothers Show

    04:00

    Carl Gottlieb on mentorship

    04:44

    Pop Culture

    Carl Gottlieb on John Williams' score for the movie "Jaws"

    03:41

    Television Industry

    Carl Gottlieb on Tom Smothers battling CBS Standards & Practices department over the content of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour

    04:57

    Carl Gottlieb on Tom Smothers holding back the master tapes of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour so that they could not be censored by CBS

    04:08

    Carl Gottlieb on advice to an aspiring writer

    04:24

    Writers

    Carl Gottlieb on the sociopolitical content of his work in The Committee improv group, which led him into being a writer

    04:26

    Carl Gottlieb on how improv skills dovetail with writing skills

    09:27

    Carl Gottlieb on getting his jokes and sketches on air on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour

    04:19

    Carl Gottlieb on what he loved about writing for television

    10:31

    Carl Gottlieb on his writing process

    02:41

    Carl Gottlieb on finding structure in his writing

    08:25

    Carl Gottlieb on writing alone versus collaborating

    01:24

    Carl Gottlieb on the process of editing and rewriting

    04:20

    Carl Gottlieb on advice to an aspiring writer

    01:27

    Carl Gottlieb on dealing with writers block

    02:57

    Carl Gottlieb on the value of an education to a writer

    02:19

    Comedy Series

    Carl Gottlieb on writing for The Odd Couple

    09:45

    Music Shows & Variety Shows/Specials

    Carl Gottlieb on being hired to write for The Summer Brothers Smothers Show

    04:00

    Carl Gottlieb on writing for The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour

    49:16

    Carl Gottlieb on writing for a series of Flip Wilson Specials (along with Lorne Michaels) after the end of The Filp Wilson Show

    13:46

    Peter Bonerz

    Carl Gottlieb on the members of The Committee improv group including Peter Bonerz, Del Close, John Brent and Avery Schreiber

    02:37

    Carl Gottlieb on working with Peter Bonerz in The Committee improv group

    01:43

    Albert Brooks

    Carl Gottlieb on the friendship between the writers on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, including Rob Reiner, John Hartford, Steve Martin, Bob Einstein, and non-show writer Albert Brooks (Einstein's brother)

    03:12

    Glen Campbell

    Carl Gottlieb on writing for Glenn Campbell, host of the The Summer Brothers Smothers Show

    02:13

    Bob Einstein

    Carl Gottlieb on the friendship between the writers on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, including Rob Reiner, John Hartford, Steve Martin, Bob Einstein, and non-show writer Albert Brooks (Einstein's brother)

    03:12

    Howard Hesseman

    Carl Gottlieb on working with Howard Hesseman

    02:51

    Steve Martin

    Carl Gottlieb on working with Steve Martin in the writers room at The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour

    02:39

    Carl Gottlieb on the friendship between the writers on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, including Rob Reiner, John Hartford, Steve Martin, Bob Einstein, and non-show writer Albert Brooks (Einstein's brother)

    03:12

    Carl Gottlieb on writing the Steve Martin film "The Jerk" directed by Carl Reiner

    15:29

    Lorne Michaels

    Carl Gottlieb on writing for a series of Flip Wilson Specials (along with Lorne Michaels) after the end of The Filp Wilson Show

    05:05

    Lorenzo Music

    Carl Gottlieb on the end of his and Lorenzo Music's writing partnership

    01:34

    Carl Gottlieb on teaming up with Lorenzo Music on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour to write monologues for the Smothers, and long-form sketches for guest-stars like Bob Newhart

    04:56

    Bob Newhart

    Carl Gottlieb on teaming up with Lorenzo Music on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour to write monologues for the Smothers, and long-form sketches for guest-stars like Bob Newhart

    04:21

    Richard Pryor

    Carl Gottlieb on working with Richard Pryor on the 1974 Flip Wilson Special

    01:59

    Carl Reiner

    Carl Gottlieb on writing the Steve Martin film "The Jerk," directed by Carl Reiner

    15:29

    Rob Reiner

    Carl Gottlieb on The Committee in Los Angeles, and on Rob Reiner being part of another, Los Angeles-based improv group

    07:49

    Carl Gottlieb on working with Rob Reiner in the writers room of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour

    00:47

    Carl Gottlieb on the friendship between the writers on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, including Rob Reiner, John Hartford, Steve Martin, Bob Einstein, and non-show writer Albert Brooks (Einstein's brother)

    03:12

    Peter Sellers

    Carl Gottlieb on working with Peter Sellers on the Flip Wilson Specials

    04:37

    Dick Smothers

    Carl Gottlieb on Tom Smothers becoming more of a hands-on producer in the third season of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour

    00:42

    Tom Smothers

    Carl Gottlieb on Tom Smothers becoming more of a hands-on producer in the third season of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour

    00:42

    Carl Gottlieb on Tom Smothers battling CBS Standards & Practices department over the content of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour

    04:57

    Carl Gottlieb on Tom Smothers holding back the master tapes of The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour so that they could not be censored by CBS

    04:08

    Steven Spielberg

    Carl Gottlieb on writing the feature film "Jaws" for Steven Spielberg

    10:26

    Carl Gottlieb on doing rewrites for Steven Spielberg's "Jaws" on the fly during production, and on the production of the movie

    04:33

    Ringo Starr

    Carl Gottlieb on directing the feature "Caveman," starring Ringo Starr

    16:02

    David Steinberg

    Carl Gottlieb on David Steinberg's sermons on The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour

    03:12

    John Williams

    Carl Gottlieb on John Williams' score for "Jaws"

    03:41

    Flip Wilson

    Carl Gottlieb on working with Flip Wilson on the Flip Wilson Specials

    00:59

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