"The question is always, 'where is the conflict?' And the hardest thing to do is to write conflict between people who care about each other. It's easy enough to have people who don't like each other carrying on.  But if two people really do love each other, and in spite of that are engaged in a conflicted situation, that's harder to do, but  it's compelling."

    About This Interview

    In the half-hour solo portion of his interview, Richard Shapiro discusses writing for late 1960s episodic television including Land of the Giants, as well as working with Natalie Wood on the 1979 television movie The Cracker Factory. He also talks about his writing partnership with his wife, Esther Shapiro, and the challenges of being a freelance writer.

    In the two-and-a-half-hour joint portion of their interview, Richard Shapiro and Esther Shapiro describe creating the hit primetime drama Dynasty. They speak of the characters and the actors who played them, recall some of the well-known storylines, talk about behind-the-scenes production details, and comment on the enduring international popularity of the show. They also touch on the short-lived spin-off series The Colbys and offer their thoughts on why the show didn't match the success of the original program. They outline their early partnership, writing for the daytime soap opera Love of Life, as well as the television movies Sarah T.: Portrait of a Teenage AlcoholicMinstrel ManIntimate Strangers, and John Steinbeck's East of Eden. B-roll consists of several photos from Dynasty. Jennifer Howard conducted the interviews on May 7, 2004 in Beverly Hills, CA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Chapter 1

    On his childhood and early influences; on meeting his wife, Esther Shapiro in college; on their writing partnership and his goals as a writer

    06:42

    On he and his wife getting hired by Warner Bros. to write a movie; on writing for Ironside and Land of the Giants

    05:29

    On the challenges of being a freelance TV writer; on moving to Europe; on working with Natalie Wood on the ABC movie The Cracker Factory; on his writing partnership with his wife

    06:57

    Chapter 2

    START OF JOINT INTERVIEW WITH ESTHER SHAPIRO: On becoming a writing team; on writing for Manhunt; on pitching

    06:10

    On Richard continuing to write solo; on the pair writing for the soap opera Love of Life

    08:32

    On writing the made-for-TV movies Sarah T.: Portrait of a Teenage Alcoholic, Minstrel Man, and Intimate Strangers

    13:44

    Chapter 3

    On writing scenes of conflict; on their involvement with the TV miniseries East of Eden

    05:27

    On creating Dynasty; on casting Joan Collins as "Alexis Carrington"

    19:36

    On the cast of Dynasty - John Forsythe and Linda Evans

    03:49

    Chapter 4

    On Linda Evans' character "Krystle Carrington" on Dynasty; on the stars of the show

    15:50

    On the producers of Dynasty; on audience reaction to the show, merchandizing, and memorable storylines (including the catfights)

    13:02

    Chapter 5

    On "Steven Carrington's" homosexuality on Dynasty; on Rock Hudson's kiss with Linda Evans; on the Moldavian Wedding Massacre

    06:10

    On their favorite storylines, why the show ended, and the legacy of Dynasty

    05:17

    On the Dynasty spinoff The Colbys; on writing Emerald Point, NAS and Heartbeat

    13:18

    On creating Richard and Esther Shapiro Entertainment; on then-current projects

    05:42

    Chapter 6

    On whether or not they'd work in television again; on advice to aspiring television writers; on the highlight of their careers

    04:51

    On career regrets and how they'd like to be remembered

    00:46

    B-roll photos from their career: of a New Yorker magazine cover, a personal telegram, and the Dynasty cast

    03:53

    Bonanza

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing for Bonanza

    01:23

    Colbys, The

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the Dynasty spinoff The Colbys

    02:19

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the actors and characters on The Colbys

    02:17

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Charlton Heston's input on the scripts of The Colbys

    01:03

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on why The Colbys wasn't successful; on the alien abduction storyline

    03:16

    Dallas

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on differences between Dallas and Dynasty

    01:00

    Dynasty

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Linda Evans' character "Krystle Carrington" on Dynasty

    00:56

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Dynasty star John James

    01:02

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Dynasty star Pamela Sue Martin and her character "Fallon Carrington Colby" and Emma Samms, the second actress to portray the character

    02:45

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Dynasty star Jack Coleman ("Steven Carrington")

    02:43

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Dynasty star Gordon Thomson ("Adam Carrington")

    00:38

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Dynasty star Heather Locklear ("Sammy Jo Dean Carrington")

    01:56

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Dynasty star Diahann Carroll ("Dominique Deveraux")

    02:59

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on production on Dynasty

    02:36

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the producers of Dynasty

    01:25

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on audience reaction to Dynasty and the show's popularity overseas

    03:05

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on merchandizing on Dynasty

    03:55

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the catfights between "Alexis" and "Krystle" on Dynasty

    01:18

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on memorable storylines on Dynasty

    01:09

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on memorable storylines on Dynasty - on "Steven Carrington's" homosexuality

    02:10

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on "Steven Carrington's" homosexuality on Dynasty

    01:15

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Rock Hudson's kiss with Linda Evans on Dynasty

    02:33

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the Moldavian Wedding Massacre on Dynasty

    01:32

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on notes from the network on Dynasty

    00:50

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on their favorite storylines and episodes of Dynasty

    01:25

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on why Dynasty ended

    01:13

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the Dynasty reunion

    00:39

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the success of Dynasty and how it affected them

    00:55

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the legacy of Dynasty

    01:05

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the Dynasty collection at Marshall Field's

    00:44

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the idea for Dynasty

    03:33

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the pilot for Dynasty

    00:55

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the title of Dynasty

    01:10

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Aaron Spelling's involvement with Dynasty

    02:37

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on differences between Dallas and Dynasty

    01:00

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on how Dynasty reflected the 1980s

    01:38

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the development and pilot of Dynasty

    02:58

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the creation of Joan Collins' character ("Alexis Carrington") on Dynasty

    04:00

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the costumes of Dynasty

    01:45

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the cast of Dynasty

    03:49

    Emerald Point, N.A.S.

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing Emerald Point, NAS

    01:53

    Heartbeat

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing Heartbeat

    01:15

    Intimate Strangers

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing the made-for-TV movie Intimate Strangers

    03:02

    Ironside

    Richard Shapiro on writing for the NBC show Ironside

    00:36

    Land of the Giants

    Richard Shapiro on writing for the series Land of the Giants

    01:51

    Love of Life

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing for the soap opera Love of Life and how it helped them later when creating Dynasty

    07:50

    Manhunt

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing for Manhunt

    00:32

    Minstrel Man

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing the made-for-TV movie Minstrel Man

    07:04

    Route 66

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing for Route 66

    00:51

    Sarah T.--- Portrait of a Teenage Alcoholic

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing the made-for-TV movie Sarah T.: Portrait of a Teenage Alcoholic

    03:38

    Advertising and Sponsorship

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing the made-for-TV movie Intimate Strangers

    02:19

    Censorship / Standards & Practices

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing the made-for-TV movie Intimate Strangers

    02:19

    Characters & Catchphrases

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the creation of Joan Collins' character ("Alexis Carrington") on Dynasty

    04:00

    Creative Influences and Inspiration

    Richard Shapiro on his mentor Shimon Wincelberg

    01:11

    LGBTQIA+

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Dynasty star Jack Coleman ("Steven Carrington")

    02:43

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on memorable storylines on Dynasty - on "Steven Carrington's" homosexuality

    02:10

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on "Steven Carrington's" homosexuality on Dynasty

    01:15

    Pop Culture

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the creation of Joan Collins' character ("Alexis Carrington") on Dynasty

    04:00

    Representation on Television

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing the made-for-TV movie Minstrel Man

    07:04

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Dynasty star Jack Coleman ("Steven Carrington")

    02:43

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on memorable storylines on Dynasty - on "Steven Carrington's" homosexuality

    02:10

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on "Steven Carrington's" homosexuality on Dynasty

    01:15

    Television Industry

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing the made-for-TV movie Intimate Strangers

    02:19

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the challenges facing an independent production company

    33:04

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the pilot for Dynasty

    00:55

    Underrepresented Voices

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing the made-for-TV movie Minstrel Man

    07:04

    Writers

    Richard Shapiro on his goals as a writer

    00:28

    Richard Shapiro on the challenges of being a freelance TV writer

    01:00

    Richard Shapiro on defining himself as a writer

    00:33

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on their pitching style

    01:06

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on advice to aspiring television writers

    01:28

    Daytime/Primetime Serials

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing for the soap opera Love of Life and how it helped them later when creating Dynasty

    07:50

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the cast, producers, audience reaction, and memorable storylines on Dynasty

    28:52

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on memorable storylines and the legacy of Dynasty

    11:22

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the Dynasty spinoff The Colbys

    09:00

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on creation of Dynasty

    54:31

    TV Movies/Miniseries/Dramatic Specials

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing the made-for-TV movie Sarah T.: Portrait of a Teenage Alcoholic

    03:38

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing the made-for-TV movie Minstrel Man

    07:04

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing the made-for-TV movie Intimate Strangers

    03:02

    Irwin Allen

    Richard Shapiro on working with producer Irwin Allen on Land of the Giants

    00:55

    Diahann Carroll

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Dynasty star Diahann Carroll ("Dominique Deveraux")

    02:59

    Joan Collins

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the creation of Joan Collins' character ("Alexis Carrington") on Dynasty

    02:21

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on what Joan Collins brought to the character of "Alexis Carrington" on Dynasty

    01:39

    Douglas S. Cramer

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the producers of Dynasty

    00:44

    Barry Diller

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on working with Barry Diller at FOX

    00:57

    Linda Evans

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Linda Evans' character "Krystle Carrington" on Dynasty

    00:56

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Rock Hudson's kiss with Linda Evans on Dynasty

    02:33

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the cast of Dynasty - Linda Evans

    01:11

    John Forsythe

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on John Forsythe on Dynasty

    00:20

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on cast changes in the pilot of Dynasty

    01:18

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the cast of Dynasty - John Forsythe

    02:38

    Leonard H. Goldenson

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on ABC founder Leonard Goldenson's reaction the pilot of Dynasty

    00:48

    Charlton Heston

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the actors and characters on The Colbys - Charlton Heston as "Jason Colby"

    01:10

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Charlton Heston's input on the scripts of The Colbys

    01:03

    Rock Hudson

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Rock Hudson's kiss with Linda Evans on Dynasty

    02:33

    John James

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Dynasty star John James

    01:02

    Heather Locklear

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Dynasty star Heather Locklear ("Sammy Jo Dean Carrington")

    01:56

    Nolan Miller

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Nolan Miller's costume design on Dynasty

    00:36

    Toni Morrison

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on consulting with Toni Morrison on the made-for-TV movie Minstrel Man

    00:59

    George Peppard

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on cast changes in the pilot of Dynasty

    00:32

    Elaine Rich

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the producers of Dynasty

    00:44

    Katharine Ross

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the actors and characters on The Colbys - Katharine Ross

    00:16

    Esther Shapiro

    Richard Shapiro on his writing partnership with his wife, Esther Shapiro

    00:26

    Richard Shapiro on he and his wife getting hired by Warner Bros. to write a movie

    00:55

    Richard Shapiro on his wife, Esther Shapiro

    00:55

    Aaron Spelling

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the idea for Dynasty

    02:33

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Aaron Spelling's involvement with Dynasty

    02:37

    Barbara Stanwyck

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on working with Barbara Stanwyck on The Colbys

    00:28

    Anthony D. Thomopoulos

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the pilot for Dynasty

    00:55

    Shimon Wincelberg

    Richard Shapiro on his mentor Shimon Wincelberg

    01:11

    Natalie Wood

    Richard Shapiro on working with Natalie Wood on the ABC movie The Cracker Factory

    01:07

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