"In journalism school, I realized that a woman journalist should be willing to be treated exactly as a male journalist. Along the line, I decided that I really didn't want to stand out and push and shove in my trench coat in the rain and snow with the men. After I started working in television, I decided that instead of reporting, I really wanted to be a producer because that's where, behind the scenes, you got the whole picture. That was always what interested me." 

    About This Interview

    In her four-and-a-half-hour interview, Betty Cole Dukert (1927-2024) speaks of her early interest in journalism and her brief production experience in local radio and television. She recalls her five-decade tenure at Meet the Press, where she rose through the ranks, ultimately serving as executive producer. Dukert offers a history of the show from its earliest years and discusses her experience behind the scenes. She chronicles her overseas trips, guests who appeared on the show, and the relationship between the series and the world's political leaders (including Fidel Castro, John F. Kennedy, Richard Nixon, and Yasser Arafat). Dukert also describes the methods of several of the moderators who served on the show including: Ned Brooks, Lawrence Spivak, Bill Monroe, Marvin Kalb, Roger Mudd, Chris Wallace, Garrick Utley, and Tim Russert. Finally, she speaks of her retirement and the legacy of Meet the Press, and offers advice to aspiring news producers. Karen Herman conducted the interview on October 14, 2003 in Bethesda, MD.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Chapter 1

    On her early life and influences

    17:44

    On coming to work for NBC; on working for lobbyists on behalf of RCA and NBC

    11:54

    Chapter 2

    On coming to work for NBC News; on the first color broadcast of Meet the Press; on joining Meet the Press as a producer

    15:41

    On working for Meet the Press moderator Lawrence E. Spivak; on how Meet the Press dealt with McCarthyism and partisan politics; on the early format of the show

    14:06

    Chapter 3

    On the Meet the Press introductions; on preparing a reporter to appear on Meet the Press; on inviting reporters to appear on Meet the Press

    14:56

    On setting ground rules for the reporters on Meet the Press; on reporters or guests who were unsuccessful on air on Meet the Press

    13:36

    Chapter 4

    On booking guests for Meet the Press; on early satellite link-ups for Meet the Press

    10:54

    On Meet the Press covering the 1960 Democratic Primary in Los Angeles; on Meet the Press' time slot changes

    18:40

    Chapter 5

    On how different NBC Presidents dealt with Meet the Press; on Fidel Castro appearing on Meet the Press; on dealing with Meet the Press in extreme weather

    15:11

    On Anastas Mikoyan appearing on Meet the Press; on how Meet the Press dealt with the Cold War 

    12:49

    Chapter 6

    On Edward R. Murrow appearing on Meet the Press; on John F. Kennedy and Meet the Press

    14:31

    On various Presidents appearing on Meet the Press; on Martin Luther King, Jr. appearing on Meet the Press

    14:14

    Chapter 7

    On Eleanor Roosevelt appearing on Meet the Press; on dealing with world famous Meet the Press guests; on the Golda Meir and Anwar Sadat appearing on the program

    16:33

    On Meet the Press interviews and Presidential elections; on Yasser Arafat appearing on Meet the Press

    11:43

    Chapter 8

    On Meet the Press covering Vietnam; on being a female producer of Meet the Press and the male to female ratio of guests on the show

    16:50

    On Bob Dole on Meet the Press; on her favorite and least favorite guests on Meet the Press; on Tim Russert taking over the show

    11:52

    Chapter 9

    On Tim Russert's contributions to Meet the Press; on the various journalists who appeared on the panel of Meet the Press; on retiring from the show

    14:35

    On the then-future of Meet the Press and its archives; on advice to aspiring news producers; on the then-state of politics and her hopes for the future

    12:48

    Meet the Press

    Betty Cole Dukert on Edward R. Murrow's guest appearance on Meet the Press

    01:59

    Betty Cole Dukert on John F. Kennedy's appearances on Meet the Press

    08:44

    Betty Cole Dukert on the assassination of John F. Kennedy

    03:04

    Betty Cole Dukert on various Presidents on Meet the Press

    10:43

    Betty Cole Dukert on Martin Luther King, Jr. on Meet the Press

    03:31

    Betty Cole Dukert on how she came to join Meet the Press as a producer

    09:10

    Betty Cole Dukert on working for Meet the Press moderator Lawrence E. Spivak

    08:34

    Betty Cole Dukert on how Meet the Press dealt with McCarthyism and partisan politics

    03:46

    Betty Cole Dukert on the early format of Meet the Press

    01:44

    Betty Cole Dukert on the scripted introductions on Meet the Press

    03:14

    Betty Cole Dukert on hard to anticipate questions from female journalists and balancing the panel of reporters on Meet the Press

    03:01

    Betty Cole Dukert on preparing a reporter to appear on Meet the Press

    03:22

    Betty Cole Dukert on inviting reporters to appear on Meet the Press

    05:19

    Betty Cole Dukert on setting ground rules for the reporters on Meet the Press

    06:51

    Betty Cole Dukert on reporters and guests who were unsuccessful on air on Meet the Press

    06:43

    Betty Cole Dukert on how guests were booked on Meet the Press

    02:33

    Betty Cole Dukert on utilizing early satellite link-ups for Meet the Press

    08:21

    Betty Cole Dukert on Meet the Press in Los Angeles for the 1960 Democratic Primary

    11:28

    Betty Cole Dukert on Meet the Press' time slot change

    07:11

    Betty Cole Dukert on the changing network presidents and Meet the Press

    06:32

    Betty Cole Dukert on Fidel Castro appearing on Meet the Press

    02:44

    Betty Cole Dukert on difficulties with weather on Meet the Press

    05:55

    Betty Cole Dukert on Anastas Mikoyan appearing on Meet the Press

    05:30

    Betty Cole Dukert on Meet the Press' coverage of The Cold War

    07:21

    Betty Cole Dukert on Eleanor Roosevelt appearing on Meet the Press

    03:30

    Betty Cole Dukert on dealing with world famous Meet the Press guests

    02:41

    Betty Cole Dukert on Golda Meir and Anwar Sadat appearing on Meet the Press and doing Meet the Press from Israel 

    10:22

    Betty Cole Dukert on historically relevant Meet the Press interviews

    03:29

    Betty Cole Dukert on Yasser Arafat appearing on Meet the Press

    07:17

    Betty Cole Dukert on covering the Vietnam War on Meet the Press

    11:34

    Betty Cole Dukert on being a female producer and the male to female ratio of guests on Meet the Press

    05:16

    Betty Cole Dukert on Bob Dole appearing on Meet the Press

    04:12

    Betty Cole Dukert on some of her least favorite Meet the Press guests

    03:22

    Betty Cole Dukert on Tim Russert taking over Meet the Press

    03:14

    Betty Cole Dukert on Tim Russert's contributions to Meet the Press

    06:09

    Betty Cole Dukert on the various journalists on the panel of Meet the Press

    06:49

    Betty Cole Dukert on retiring from Meet the Press

    01:38

    Betty Cole Dukert on the then-future of Meet the Press and the Meet the Press archives

    03:41

    Betty Cole Dukert on the legacy of Meet the Press

    02:23

    Betty Cole Dukert on her life since retirement

    02:25

    Betty Cole Dukert on advice to aspiring news producers

    01:32

    Betty Cole Dukert on the then-state of politics and her hopes for the future

    02:47

    Advice

    Betty Cole Dukert on advice to aspiring news producers

    01:32

    Bill Clinton

    Betty Cole Dukert on various Presidents and Meet the Press: Bill Clinton

    10:43

    Civil Rights Movement

    Betty Cole Dukert on Martin Luther King, Jr. on Meet the Press

    03:31

    Cold War

    Betty Cole Dukert on Meet the Press'  coverage of The Cold War

    07:21

    Betty Cole Dukert on Fidel Castro appearing on Meet the Press

    02:44

    Betty Cole Dukert on Anastas Mikoyan appearing on Meet the Press

    05:30

    First Big Break

    Betty Cole Dukert on how she came to join Meet the Press  as a producer

    09:10

    Franklin D. Roosevelt

    Betty Cole Dukert on Eleanor Roosevelt appearing on Meet the Press

    03:30

    Gerald Ford

    Betty Cole Dukert on various Presidents and Meet the Press: Gerald Ford

    10:43

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Betty Cole Dukert on the assassination of John F. Kennedy

    03:04

    Betty Cole Dukert on Martin Luther King, Jr. on Meet the Press

    03:31

    Betty Cole Dukert on hard to anticipate questions from female journalists and balancing the panel of reporters on Meet the Press

    03:01

    Betty Cole Dukert on Meet the Press'  coverage of The Cold War

    07:21

    Betty Cole Dukert on Fidel Castro appearing on Meet the Press

    02:44

    Betty Cole Dukert on Anastas Mikoyan appearing on Meet the Press

    05:30

    Betty Cole Dukert on Golda Meir and Anwar Sadat appearing on Meet the Press  and doing Meet the Press from Israel 

    10:22

    Betty Cole Dukert on Yassir Arafat appearing on Meet the Press

    07:17

    Betty Cole Dukert on covering the Vietnam War on Meet the Press

    11:14

    Betty Cole Dukert on being a female producer and the male to female ratio of guests on Meet the Press

    04:56

    Hollywood Blacklist

    Betty Cole Dukert on how Meet the Press  dealt with McCarthyism and partisan politics

    03:46

    Industry Crossroads

    Betty Cole Dukert on how Meet the Press  dealt with McCarthyism and partisan politics

    03:46

    JFK Assassination and Funeral

    Betty Cole Dukert on the assassination of John F. Kennedy

    03:04

    Jimmy Carter

    Betty Cole Dukert on various Presidents and Meet the Press: Jimmy Carter

    10:43

    John F. Kennedy

    Betty Cole Dukert on John F. Kennedy's appearances on Meet the Press

    08:44

    Betty Cole Dukert on Meet the Press in Los Angeles for the 1960 Democratic Primary

    11:28

    Lyndon B. Johnson

    Betty Cole Dukert on various Presidents and Meet the Press: Lyndon B. Johnson

    10:43

    Pivotal Career Moments

    Betty Cole Dukert on how she came to join Meet the Press  as a producer

    09:10

    Representation on Television

    Betty Cole Dukert on hard to anticipate questions from female journalists and balancing the panel of reporters on Meet the Press

    03:01

    Betty Cole Dukert on being a female producer and the male to female ratio of guests on Meet the Press

    04:56

    Richard M. Nixon

    Betty Cole Dukert on various Presidents and Meet the Press: Richard M. Nixon

    10:43

    Technological Innovation

    Betty Cole Dukert on the first color broadcast of Meet the Press

    02:15

    Betty Cole Dukert on utilizing early satellite link-ups for Meet the Press

    08:21

    Television and the Presidency

    Betty Cole Dukert on John F. Kennedy's appearances on Meet the Press

    08:44

    Betty Cole Dukert on various Presidents and Meet the Press

    10:43

    Betty Cole Dukert on Meet the Press  in Los Angeles for the 1960 Democratic Primary

    11:28

    Betty Cole Dukert on Eleanor Roosevelt appearing on Meet the Press

    03:30

    Television Industry

    Betty Cole Dukert on how Meet the Press  dealt with McCarthyism and partisan politics

    03:46

    Betty Cole Dukert on advice to aspiring news producers

    01:32

    Vietnam War

    Betty Cole Dukert on covering the Vietnam War on Meet the Press

    11:14

    War

    Betty Cole Dukert on Meet the Press'  coverage of The Cold War

    07:21

    Betty Cole Dukert on Fidel Castro appearing on Meet the Press

    02:44

    Betty Cole Dukert on Anastas Mikoyan appearing on Meet the Press

    05:30

    Betty Cole Dukert on covering the Vietnam War on Meet the Press

    11:14

    Women

    Betty Cole Dukert on hard to anticipate questions from female journalists and balancing the panel of reporters on Meet the Press

    03:01

    Betty Cole Dukert on being a female producer and the male to female ratio of guests on Meet the Press

    04:56

    Journalists & News Producers

    Betty Cole Dukert on setting ground rules for the reporters on Meet the Press

    06:51

    Betty Cole Dukert on advice to aspiring news producers

    00:47

    News Producer

    Betty Cole Dukert on setting ground rules for the reporters on Meet the Press

    06:51

    Betty Cole Dukert on advice to aspiring news producers

    00:47

    News and Documentary

    Betty Cole Dukert on producing Meet the Press (Part 5)

    28:47

    Betty Cole Dukert on producing Meet the Press (Part 1)

    23:45

    Betty Cole Dukert on producing Meet the Press (Part 2)

    28:30

    Betty Cole Dukert on producing Meet the Press (Part 3)

    29:36

    Betty Cole Dukert on producing Meet the Press (Part 4)

    28:00

    Betty Cole Dukert on producing Meet the Press (Part 6)

    28:16

    Betty Cole Dukert on producing Meet the Press (Part 7)

    28:42

    Betty Cole Dukert on producing Meet the Press (Part 8)

    27:23

    Yasser Arafat

    Betty Cole Dukert on Yassir Arafat appearing on Meet the Press

    07:17

    Jimmy Carter

    Betty Cole Dukert on various Presidents and Meet the Press: Jimmy Carter

    10:43

    Fidel Castro

    Betty Cole Dukert on Fidel Castro appearing on Meet the Press

    02:44

    Bill Clinton

    Betty Cole Dukert on various Presidents and Meet the Press: Bill Clinton

    10:43

    Bob Dole

    Betty Cole Dukert on Bob Dole appearing on Meet the Press

    04:12

    Gerald Ford

    Betty Cole Dukert on various Presidents and Meet the Press: Gerald Ford

    10:43

    Lawrence K. Grossman

    Betty Cole Dukert on the changing network presidents' effects on Meet the Press

    06:32

    Lyndon B. Johnson

    Betty Cole Dukert on various Presidents and Meet the Press: Lyndon B. Johnson

    10:43

    Betty Cole Dukert on Meet the Press in Los Angeles for the 1960 Democratic Primary

    11:28

    John F. Kennedy

    Betty Cole Dukert on John F. Kennedy's appearances on Meet the Press

    08:44

    Betty Cole Dukert on the assassination of John F. Kennedy

    03:04

    Betty Cole Dukert on Meet the Press in Los Angeles for the 1960 Democratic Primary

    11:28

    Martin Luther King, Jr.

    Betty Cole Dukert on Martin Luther King, Jr. on Meet the Press

    03:31

    Golda Meir

    Betty Cole Dukert on Golda Meir and Anwar Sadat appearing on Meet the Press and doing Meet the Press from Israel 

    10:22

    Edward R. Murrow

    Betty Cole Dukert on Edward R. Murrow's guest appearance on Meet the Press

    01:59

    Richard M. Nixon

    Betty Cole Dukert on various Presidents and Meet the Press: Richard M. Nixon

    10:43

    Eleanor Roosevelt

    Betty Cole Dukert on Eleanor Roosevelt appearing on Meet the Press

    03:30

    Tim Russert

    Betty Cole Dukert on Tim Russert taking over Meet the Press

    03:14

    Betty Cole Dukert on Tim Russert's contributions to Meet the Press

    06:08

    Anwar Sadat

    Betty Cole Dukert on Golda Meir and Anwar Sadat appearing on Meet the Press and doing Meet the Press from Israel 

    10:22

    Lawrence E. Spivak

    Betty Cole Dukert on how she came to join Meet the Press as a producer

    09:10

    Betty Cole Dukert on working for Meet the Press moderator Lawrence E. Spivak

    08:34

    Betty Cole Dukert on how Meet the Press dealt with McCarthyism and partisan politics

    03:46

    Betty Cole Dukert on the scripted introductions on Meet the Press

    03:14

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