“Broadcasting brought people together. There’s not that kind of unity in the country now, and they’ve dropped down to a third of what their audience was. Thank heavens for Public Broadcasting. If Newton Minow saw the ‘vast wasteland’ today, he wouldn’t have words to describe it!”

    About This Interview

    In her two-hour interview, Mary V. Ahern (1922-2021) talks about her early years and her experience during World War II, which led her to work for the ABC radio public affairs department. She describes early public affairs television programming she was involved with, including shows like On Trial, United or Not, and Horizons. She recounts in detail producing the classic series Omnibus along with executive producer Robert Saudek, recalling several aspects of the production of the show including host Alistair Cooke, conductor Leonard Bernstein’s involvement and his “Musical Lectures” series, and historical plays the show presented. Ahern speaks of the reasons for the end of the series, its legacy, and Robert Saudek’s contribution to television. She discusses being involved with the series Profiles in Courage, as well as being the first curator of the Paley Center for Media (originally the Museum of Broadcasting), and her involvement with the Library of Congress. She concludes with advice to aspiring television producers, and her career achievements and regrets. Ron Simon conducted the interview on May 22, 2017 in Peabody, MA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Mary V. Ahern on Omnibus producer Robert Saudek

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    Mary V. Ahern on the process of producing an episode of Omnibus

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    Mary V. Ahern on how she came to work in the public affairs department at ABC

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    Mary V. Ahern on the importance of television preservation, and on the founding of the Paley Center (originally the Museum of Broadcasting)

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    Mary V. Ahern on working with composer Leonard Bernstein on several episode of Omnibus

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    Mary V. Ahern on career achievements and regrets

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    Chapter 1

    On her early life and influences; on how she came to work in the public affairs department at ABC; on radio programs she listened to growing up, and on her early role at ABC

    11:33

    On early television shows she worked on, including On Trial and United or Not, and on the founding of the Ford Foundation; on producing Horizons

    04:50

    On producing Omnibus with Robert Saudek, and on how it was funded; on the process of producing an episode of Omnibus, and on her role; on working with associate producer Paul Feigay on the show

    19:28

    On working with composer Leonard Bernstein and director Andrew McCullough on Omnibus; on the time slot and on the orchestras of Omnibus

    06:12

    On host Alistair Cooke's other contributions to Omnibus, and on drama critic Walter Kerr's involvement with the show; on various historical plays produced for Omnibus; on various creative pairings of the show

    06:45

    Chapter 2

    On various personalities who appeared on Omnibus; on Joseph N. Welch (who stood up to Senator Joseph McCarthy at the Army-McCarthy hearings) being involved with the Omnibus series on the Constitution; on Omnibus producer Robert Saudek

    14:06

    On the reasons for the cancellation of Omnibus; on her experience as a female television producer in the 1950s; on the importance of television preservation, and on the founding of the Museum of Broadcasting (now the Paley Center)

    10:34

    On the legacy of Omnibus; on her involvement with the Library of Congress (Ed. note: Ms. Ahern would like to clarify that when she referred to CDs in this segment, she meant DVDs); on working on Profiles in Courage

    08:34

    On how television, and opportunities for women in television have changed since her time in the business; on the contribution of Robert Saudek to television; on advice to an aspiring television producer

    07:28

    On career achievements and regrets; on how she would like to be remembered (Ed. note: Ms. Ahern would like to clarify that the Librarian of Congress at the time of this interview was James Billington)

    03:30

    On b-roll pictures and memorabilia from her career - Leonard Bernstein lecturing for Omnibus ; with Robert Saudek at the Museum of Broadcasting in New York City; with Paul Feigay and Leonard Bernstein; with Joseph N. Welch on the set of Omnibus; folder with the Omnibus sunburst logo; her typed original 5-year plan for The Museum of Broadcasting; Robert Saudek's original, typed-out vision for Omnibus ; the original Omnibus show logs; Al Hirschfeld drawing of Omnibus crew

    11:04

    Omnibus

    Mary V. Ahern on producing Omnibus with Robert Saudek

    05:36

    Mary V. Ahern on how Omnibus was funded

    02:50

    Mary V. Ahern on the process of producing an episode of Omnibus

    02:46

    Mary V. Ahern on her role in the production of Omnibus

    04:34

    Mary V. Ahern on working with associate producer Paul Feigay on Omnibus

    03:38

    Mary V. Ahern on working with composer Leonard Bernstein on several episode of Omnibus

    02:48

    Mary V. Ahern on working with Omnibus director Andrew McCullough

    01:29

    Mary V. Ahern on the time slot and on the orchestras of Omnibus

    01:55

    Mary V. Ahern on host Alistair Cooke's other contributions to Omnibus, and on drama critic Walter Kerr's involvement with the show

    02:15

    Mary V. Ahern on various historical plays produced for Omnibus

    02:44

    Mary V. Ahern on various creative pairings on Omnibus

    01:42

    Mary V. Ahern on various personalities who appeared on Omnibus, including Orson Welles, Mike Nichols and Elaine May, and Carol Burnett

    04:03

    Mary V. Ahern on Joseph N. Welch (who stood up to Senator Joseph McCarthy at the Army-McCarthy hearings) being involved with the Omnibus series on the Constitution

    06:55

    Mary V. Ahern on Omnibus producer Robert Saudek

    03:08

    Mary V. Ahern on the reasons for the cancellation of Omnibus

    03:28

    Mary V. Ahern on the legacy of Omnibus

    02:46

    Profiles in Courage

    Mary V. Ahern on working on Profiles in Courage

    02:53

    Advice

    Mary V. Ahern on advice to an aspiring television producer, and on then-current shows she admires

    01:28

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Mary V. Ahern on her experience during World War II

    02:21

    Mary V. Ahern on how opportunities for women in television have changed over the years

    01:24

    Mary V. Ahern on her experience as a female television producer in the 1950s

    02:12

    Hollywood Blacklist

    Mary V. Ahern on Joseph N. Welch (who stood up to Senator Joseph McCarthy at the Army-McCarthy hearings) being involved with the Omnibus series on the Constitution

    06:55

    Industry Crossroads

    Mary V. Ahern on Joseph N. Welch (who stood up to Senator Joseph McCarthy at the Army-McCarthy hearings) being involved with the Omnibus series on the Constitution

    06:55

    Representation on Television

    Mary V. Ahern on how opportunities for women in television have changed over the years

    01:24

    Mary V. Ahern on her experience as a female television producer in the 1950s

    02:12

    Television Industry

    Mary V. Ahern on how television has changed since her time in the industry

    03:17

    Mary V. Ahern on advice to an aspiring television producer, and on then-current shows she admires

    01:28

    Mary V. Ahern on Joseph N. Welch (who stood up to Senator Joseph McCarthy at the Army-McCarthy hearings) being involved with the Omnibus series on the Constitution

    06:55

    War

    Mary V. Ahern on her experience during World War II

    02:21

    Women

    Mary V. Ahern on her experience as a female television producer in the 1950s

    02:12

    Mary V. Ahern on how opportunities for women in television have changed over the years

    01:24

    World War II

    Mary V. Ahern on her experience during World War II

    02:21

    Producers

    Mary V. Ahern on advice to an aspiring television producer, and on then-current shows she admires

    01:28

    Classic Anthology Series

    Mary V. Ahern on producing Omnibus

    32:25

    Mary V. Ahern on producing Omnibus

    17:34

    Mary V. Ahern on working on Profiles in Courage

    02:54

    Service Shows

    Mary V. Ahern on early television shows she worked on, including On Trial and United or Not, and on the founding of the Ford Foundation

    03:07

    Mary V. Ahern on producing Horizons

    00:56

    Leonard Bernstein

    Mary V. Ahern on working with composer Leonard Bernstein on several episode of Omnibus

    02:48

    Carol Burnett

    Mary V. Ahern on various personalities who appeared on Omnibus including Orson Welles, Mike Nichols and Elaine May, and Carol Burnett

    04:03

    Alistair Cooke

    Mary V. Ahern on host Alistair Cooke's other contributions to Omnibus, and on drama critic Walter Kerr's involvement with the show

    02:15

    Elaine May

    Mary V. Ahern on various personalities who appeared on Omnibus including Orson Welles, Mike Nichols and Elaine May, and Carol Burnett

    04:03

    Mike Nichols

    Mary V. Ahern on various personalities who appeared on Omnibus including Orson Welles, Mike Nichols and Elaine May, and Carol Burnett

    04:03

    Robert Saudek

    Mary V. Ahern on producing Omnibus with Robert Saudek

    05:36

    Mary V. Ahern on the contribution of Robert Saudek to television

    01:01

    Mary V. Ahern on Omnibus producer Robert Saudek

    03:08

    Orson Welles

    Mary V. Ahern on various personalities who appeared on Omnibus including Orson Welles, Mike Nichols and Elaine May, and Carol Burnett

    04:03

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