"No gay or lesbian person had ever won even a primary for California for the State Legislature. The thing that actually made it easy was 'Zelda Gilroy.' Everybody already liked 'Zelda.' They liked her a lot. And once you realize your third grade teacher, the nurse that saved your life in the hospital, or your aunt are gay, you change your mind about stuff. 'Zelda' helped people feel they were electing a gay person who they already knew and liked."  

    About This Interview

    In her two-hour-forty-five-minute interview, Sheila Kuehl talks about her introduction to performing on live radio as a child. She tells how that led to her role as "Jackie Erwin," the youngest daughter on The Stu Erwin Show aka Trouble With Father. She recalls working on the program with a then-unknown actor named James Dean, as well as guest starring on My Little Margie and several dramatic programs. Kuehl recounts her four years as "Zelda Gilroy" on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis, discusses her fondness for co-stars Dwayne Hickman and Bob Denver, and details the production of the show. She recalls filming a pilot for a spin-off called Zelda Gilroy, which was eventually rejected by the network president for her being "too butch." She discusses leaving acting to pursue a career in law and attending Harvard Law School. She outlines her political career from being the first lesbian to serve in the California State Assembly, to her service in the California State Senate, where she worked with California governors Pete Wilson, Gray Davis, and Arnold Schwarzenegger. Adrienne Faillace conducted the interview on June 27, 2013 in North Hollywood, CA.

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    Chapter 1

    On her early life and influences; on her introduction to performing; on playing "Jackie Erwin" on The Stu Erwin Show aka Trouble With Father

    14:25

    On her favorite Stu Erwin Show moments; on her education as a child actor; on acting in 1950's television dramas

    15:47

    On appearing in the feature film "Seven Brides for Seven Brothers"; on James Dean appearing on The Stu Erwin Show

    08:47

    On being cast as "Zelda Gilroy" on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis; on her character "Zelda Gilroy" on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis; on working with Dwayne Hickman as "Dobie Gillis" on the show

    18:01

    Chapter 2

    On Bob Denver as "Maynard G. Krebs" on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis; on doing publicity for and interacting with fans of The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis; on Tuesday Weld as "Thalia Menninger" on the show

    15:02

    On attending UCLA; on Warren Beatty as "Milton Armitage" on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis; on the planned Zelda Gilroy spin-off of The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis and the end of the show

    17:07

    On various guest-starring roles; on appearing on The Ed Sullivan Show as one of "The Ladybugs"

    09:52

    On attending Harvard Law School; on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis reunion movies

    16:04

    Chapter 3

    On her law career; on coming out on Good Morning America and The  Geraldo Rivera Show; on being elected to the California State Assembly and speaking at the Democratic National Convention

    12:51

    On her West Hollywood Cable TV show Get Used To It; on serving in the California State Senate

    16:26

    On her most important contributions in government; on how television has changed; on career highlights and regrets and her advice to aspiring actors and politicians

    15:22

    Adventures Of Ozzie and Harriet, The

    Sheila Kuehl on guest-starring on The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet

    00:30

    Beverly Hillbillies, The

    Sheila Kuehl on guest-starring on The Beverly Hillbillies and Petticoat Junction  and appearing on The Ed Sullivan Show

    04:50

    Donna Reed Show, The

    Sheila Kuehl on guest-starring on The Donna Reed Show

    01:19

    Geraldo

    Sheila Kuehl on coming out on The Geraldo Rivera Show and Good Morning America

    05:45

    Good Morning America

    Sheila Kuehl on coming out on The Geraldo Rivera Show and Good Morning America

    05:45

    Many Loves of Dobie Gillis, The

    Sheila Kuehl on being cast as "Zelda Gilroy" on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis

    04:49

    Sheila Kuehl on her Many Loves of Dobie Gillis character "Zelda Gilroy"

    05:29

    Sheila Kuehl on working with The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis creator Max Shulman

    01:28

    Sheila Kuehl on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis director Rod Amateau

    01:35

    Sheila Kuehl on the production of The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis

    01:51

    Sheila Kuehl on working with Dwayne Hickman as "Dobie Gillis" on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis

    05:19

    Sheila Kuehl on Bob Denver as "Maynard G. Krebs" on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis

    06:16

    Sheila Kuehl on doing publicity for The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis

    02:39

    Sheila Kuehl on her interaction with fans of The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis and how they reacted to her character "Zelda Gilroy"

    03:56

    Sheila Kuehl on Tuesday Weld as "Thalia Menninger" on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis

    02:11

    Sheila Kuehl on attending UCLA while on The Many Loves of Dobie Gills

    02:50

    Sheila Kuehl on Warren Beatty as "Milton Armitage" on The Many Loves of Dobie Gills

    01:17

    Sheila Kuehl on her friendship with Dwayne Hickman on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis

    02:56

    Sheila Kuehl on moments of The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis that stood out for her

    01:52

    Sheila Kuehl on the planned Zelda Gilroy spin-off of The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis

    06:28

    Sheila Kuehl on the end of The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis

    01:44

    Sheila Kuehl on appearing in the reunion movies Whatever Happened to Dobie Gillis? and Bring Me the Head of Dobie Gillis

    04:11

    My Little Margie

    Sheila Kuehl on appearing on My Little Margie

    01:32

    Petticoat Junction

    Sheila Kuehl on guest-starring on The Beverly Hillbillies and Petticoat Junction and appearing on The Ed Sullivan Show

    04:50

    Advice

    Sheila Kuehl on advice to aspiring actors and politicians

    01:21

    Anthology Drama

    Sheila Kuehl on acting in live and filmed television dramas in the 1950s

    03:40

    Characters & Catchphrases

    Sheila Kuehl on her Many Loves of Dobie Gillis character "Zelda Gilroy"

    05:29

    Civil Rights Movement

    Sheila Kuehl on Bob Denver as "Maynard G. Krebs" on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis

    06:16

    Comedy-Variety

    Sheila Kuehl on playing "Jackie Erwin" on The Stu Erwin Show aka Trouble With Father

    11:14

    Fame and Celebrity

    Sheila Kuehl on her interaction with fans of The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis and how they reacted to her character "Zelda Gilroy"

    03:56

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Sheila Kuehl on Bob Denver as "Maynard G. Krebs" on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis

    06:16

    Sheila Kuehl on the planned Zelda Gilroy  spin-off of The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis

    06:28

    Sheila Kuehl on coming out on The Geraldo Rivera Show and Good Morning America

    02:04

    Sheila Kuehl on the Supreme Court's 2013 ruling regarding gay marriage

    01:42

    Sheila Kuehl on being the first lesbian elected to the California State Assembly

    02:04

    LGBTQIA+

    Sheila Kuehl on the planned Zelda Gilroy  spin-off of The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis

    06:28

    Sheila Kuehl on coming out on The Geraldo Rivera Show and Good Morning America

    02:04

    Sheila Kuehl on the Supreme Court's 2013 ruling regarding gay marriage

    01:42

    Sheila Kuehl on being the first lesbian elected to the California State Assembly

    02:04

    Pop Culture

    Sheila Kuehl on her Many Loves of Dobie Gillis character "Zelda Gilroy"

    05:29

    Representation on Television

    Sheila Kuehl on the planned Zelda Gilroy  spin-off of The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis

    06:28

    Sheila Kuehl on coming out on The Geraldo Rivera Show and Good Morning America

    02:04

    Sheila Kuehl on the Supreme Court's 2013 ruling regarding gay marriage

    01:42

    Sheila Kuehl on being the first lesbian elected to the California State Assembly

    02:04

    Television Industry

    Sheila Kuehl on her interaction with fans of The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis and how they reacted to her character "Zelda Gilroy"

    03:56

    Sheila Kuehl on advice to aspiring actors and politicians

    01:21

    TV's Golden Age (1940s & '50s)

    Sheila Kuehl on playing "Jackie Erwin" on The Stu Erwin Show aka Trouble With Father

    11:14

    Sheila Kuehl on acting in live and filmed television dramas in the 1950s

    03:40

    Actress

    Sheila Kuehl on advice to aspiring actors and politicians

    01:21

    Performers

    Sheila Kuehl on advice to aspiring actors and politicians

    01:21

    Comedy Series

    Sheila Kuehl on playing "Jackie Erwin" on The Stu Erwin Show aka Trouble With Father

    11:14

    Sheila Kuehl on playing "Zelda Gilroy" on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis

    18:01

    Sheila Kuehl on playing "Zelda Gilroy" on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis  (Part 2) 

    32:09

    Rod Amateau

    Sheila Kuehl on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis director Rod Amateau

    01:35

    Warren Beatty

    Sheila Kuehl on Warren Beatty as "Milton Armitage" on The Many Loves of Dobie Gills

    01:17

    James Dean

    Sheila Kuehl on James Dean appearing on The Stu Erwin Show

    05:25

    Bob Denver

    Sheila Kuehl on Bob Denver as "Maynard G. Krebs" on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis

    06:16

    Dwayne Hickman

    Sheila Kuehl on working with Dwayne Hickman as "Dobie Gillis" on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis

    02:35

    Arnold Schwarzenegger

    Sheila Kuehl on serving in the California State Senate under Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger

    02:21

    Dick York

    Sheila Kuehl on coming out as a lesbian on The  Geraldo Rivera Show  and Good Morning America

    05:45

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