"We began thinking of a series that had everything that you're not supposed to put on television: rich people, the Midwest, older women - particularly strong and powerful - lots of business, entrepreneurs, greed, opulence... all the Donald Trump stuff."

    About This Interview

    In the one-and-a-half-hour solo portion of her interview, Esther Shapiro describes her early influences and talks about her start in freelance writing. She discusses her work as an executive story consultant for the 1973-74 series Love Story, and she details her tenure as vice president of Novels and Limited Series at ABC, developing projects such as Masada, Roots: The Next Generations, and Ike.

    In the two-and-a-half-hour joint portion of their interview, Richard Shapiro and Esther Shapiro describe creating the hit primetime drama Dynasty. They speak of the characters and the actors who played them, recall some of the well-known storylines, talk about behind-the-scenes production details, and comment on the enduring international popularity of the show. They also touch on the short-lived spin-off series The Colbys and offer their thoughts on why the show didn't match the success of the original program. They outline their early partnership, writing for the daytime soap opera Love of Life, as well as the television movies Sarah T.: Portrait of a Teenage AlcoholicMinstrel ManIntimate Strangers, and John Steinbeck's East of Eden. B-roll consists of several photos from Dynasty. Jennifer Howard conducted the interviews on May 7, 2004 in Beverly Hills, CA.

     

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    Esther Shapiro on why miniseries worked well for the TV audience of the 1970s

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    Esther Shapiro on developing the miniseries Roots: The Next Generation

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    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the idea for Dynasty

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    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the creation of Joan Collins' character ("Alexis Carrington") on Dynasty

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    Richard and Esther Shapiro on memorable storylines on Dynasty - on "Steven Carrington's" homosexuality

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    Chapter 1

    On her childhood and early influences; on majoring in comparative literature; on meeting her husband/writing partner, Richard Shapiro; on her early memories of television

    09:21

    On becoming a freelance writer; on some of their early writing and the limited number of female writers in the 1960s; on working at Warner Bros.

    06:20

    On being Executive Story Consultant on Love Story with George Schaefer; on moving to Europe; on getting hired by ABC's Brandon Stoddard to start the miniseries department

    09:53

    On her role as an Executive and how much writing she did while she was still an Executive

    02:47

    Chapter 2

    On her fellow executives at ABC

    05:28

    On developing the miniseries Pearl, Friendly Fire, and Ike; on projects she wanted to do, but didn't get to

    10:48

    On developing the miniseries Roots: The Next Generation; on structuring a miniseries

    05:32

    On why miniseries worked well for the TV audience of the 1970s and '80s; on developing the miniseries Masada; on why she left ABC; on starting to create Dynasty

    06:59

    Chapter 3

    On becoming Senior Vice-President at Aaron Spelling Productions; on how she classifies herself (writer, producer...)

    06:01

    On meeting her husband, Richard Shapiro, at UCLA; on her writing partnership with her husband

    01:19

    Chapter 4

    START OF JOINT INTERVIEW WITH RICHARD SHAPIRO: On becoming a writing team; on writing for Manhunt; on pitching

    06:10

    On Richard continuing to write solo; on the pair writing for the soap opera Love of Life

    08:32

    On writing the made-for-TV movies Sarah T.: Portrait of a Teenage Alcoholic, Minstrel Man, and Intimate Strangers

    13:44

    Chapter 5

    On writing scenes of conflict; on their involvement with the TV miniseries East of Eden

    05:27

    On creating Dynasty; on casting Joan Collins as "Alexis Carrington"

    19:36

    On the cast of Dynasty  - John Forsythe and Linda Evans

    03:49

    Chapter 6

    On Linda Evans' character "Krystle Carrington" on Dynasty; on the stars of the show

    15:50

    On the producers of Dynasty; on audience reaction to the show, merchandizing, and memorable storylines (including the catfights)

    13:02

    Chapter 7

    On "Steven Carrington's" homosexuality on Dynasty; on Rock Hudson's kiss with Linda Evans; on the Moldavian Wedding Massacre

    06:10

    On their favorite storylines, why the show ended, and the legacy of Dynasty

    05:17

    On the Dynasty spinoff The Colbys; on writing Emerald Point, NAS and Heartbeat

    13:18

    On creating Richard and Esther Shapiro Entertainment; on then-current projects

    05:42

    Chapter 8

    On whether or not they'd work in television again; on advice to aspiring television writers; on the highlight of their careers

    04:51

    On career regrets and how they'd like to be remembered

    00:46

    B-roll photos from their career: of a New Yorker magazine cover, a personal telegram, and the Dynasty cast

    03:53

    Bonanza

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing for Bonanza

    01:23

    Colbys, The

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the Dynasty spinoff The Colbys

    02:19

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the actors and characters on The Colbys

    02:17

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Charlton Heston's input on the scripts of The Colbys

    01:03

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on why The Colbys wasn't successful; on the alien abduction storyline

    03:16

    Dallas

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on differences between Dallas and Dynasty

    01:00

    Dynasty

    Esther Shapiro on Aaron Spelling wanting to work with her and Richard Shapiro and starting to develop Dynasty

    01:09

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the idea for Dynasty

    03:33

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the pilot for Dynasty

    00:55

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the title of Dynasty

    01:10

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Aaron Spelling's involvement with Dynasty

    02:37

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on differences between Dallas and Dynasty

    01:00

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on how Dynasty  reflected the 1980s

    01:38

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the development and pilot of Dynasty  

    02:58

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the creation of Joan Collins' character ("Alexis Carrington") on Dynasty

    04:00

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the costumes of Dynasty  

    01:45

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the cast of Dynasty  

    03:49

    Esther Shapiro on her fashion inspiration for Dynasty

    00:45

    Esther Shapiro on balancing her executive duties while still working on Dynasty

    00:33

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Linda Evans' character "Krystle Carrington" on Dynasty

    00:56

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Dynasty star John James

    01:02

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Dynasty star Pamela Sue Martin and her character "Fallon Carrington Colby" and Emma Samms, the second actress to portray the character

    02:45

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Dynasty star Jack Coleman ("Steven Carrington")

    02:43

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Dynasty star Gordon Thomson ("Adam Carrington")

    00:38

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Dynasty star Heather Locklear ("Sammy Jo Dean Carrington")

    01:56

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Dynasty star Diahann Carroll ("Dominique Deveraux")

    02:59

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on production on Dynasty

    02:36

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the producers of Dynasty

    01:25

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on audience reaction to Dynasty and the show's popularity overseas

    03:05

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on merchandizing on Dynasty

    03:55

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the catfights between "Alexis" and "Krystle" on Dynasty

    01:18

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on memorable storylines on Dynasty

    01:09

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on memorable storylines on Dynasty - on "Steven Carrington's" homosexuality

    02:10

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on "Steven Carrington's" homosexuality on Dynasty

    01:15

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Rock Hudson's kiss with Linda Evans on Dynasty

    02:33

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the Moldavian Wedding Massacre on Dynasty

    01:32

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on notes from the network on Dynasty

    00:50

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on their favorite storylines and episodes of Dynasty

    01:25

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on why Dynasty ended

    01:13

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the Dynasty reunion

    00:39

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the success of Dynasty and how it affected them

    00:55

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the legacy of Dynasty

    01:05

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the Dynasty collection at Marshall Field's

    00:44

    Emerald Point, N.A.S.

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing Emerald Point, NAS

    01:53

    Friendly Fire

    Esther Shapiro on developing the TV movie Friendly Fire

    01:46

    Heartbeat

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing Heartbeat

    01:15

    Ike: The War Years

    Esther Shapiro on developing the miniseries Ike: The War Years

    02:05

    Intimate Strangers

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing the made-for-TV movie Intimate Strangers

    03:02

    Love of Life

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing for the soap opera Love of Life and how it helped them later when creating Dynasty

    07:50

    Love Story

    Esther Shapiro on being Executive Story Consultant on Love Story with George Schaefer

    01:29

    Esther Shapiro on the plot of Love Story

    00:33

    Manhunt

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing for Manhunt

    00:32

    Masada

    Esther Shapiro on developing the miniseries Masada

    02:43

    Minstrel Man

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing the made-for-TV movie Minstrel Man

    07:04

    Pearl

    Esther Shapiro on developing the miniseries Pearl

    03:35

    Roots

    Esther Shapiro on how Roots compared to Roots: The Next Generation

    00:28

    Roots: The Next Generations

    Esther Shapiro on developing the miniseries Roots: The Next Generation

    02:48

    Esther Shapiro on her contributions to Roots: The Next Generation

    01:34

    Route 66

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing for Route 66

    00:51

    Sarah T.--- Portrait of a Teenage Alcoholic

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing the made-for-TV movie Sarah T.: Portrait of a Teenage Alcoholic

    03:38

    Advertising and Sponsorship

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing the made-for-TV movie Intimate Strangers

    02:19

    Censorship / Standards & Practices

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing the made-for-TV movie Intimate Strangers

    02:19

    Characters & Catchphrases

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the creation of Joan Collins' character ("Alexis Carrington") on Dynasty

    04:00

    LGBTQIA+

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Dynasty star Jack Coleman ("Steven Carrington")

    02:43

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on memorable storylines on Dynasty - on "Steven Carrington's" homosexuality

    02:10

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on "Steven Carrington's" homosexuality on Dynasty

    01:15

    Pop Culture

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the creation of Joan Collins' character ("Alexis Carrington") on Dynasty

    04:00

    Representation on Television

    Esther Shapiro on fellow female executives at ABC

    01:25

    Esther Shapiro on the limited number of female writers

    00:27

    Esther Shapiro on being a female writer in Hollywood and whether or not having a male writing partner helped her

    02:45

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing the made-for-TV movie Minstrel Man

    07:04

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Dynasty star Jack Coleman ("Steven Carrington")

    02:43

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on memorable storylines on Dynasty - on "Steven Carrington's" homosexuality

    02:10

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on "Steven Carrington's" homosexuality on Dynasty

    01:15

    Television Industry

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the pilot for Dynasty

    00:55

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing the made-for-TV movie Intimate Strangers

    02:19

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the challenges facing an independent production company

    33:04

    Underrepresented Voices

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing the made-for-TV movie Minstrel Man

    07:04

    Women

    Esther Shapiro on fellow female executives at ABC

    01:25

    Esther Shapiro on the limited number of female writers

    00:27

    Esther Shapiro on being a female writer in Hollywood and whether or not having a male writing partner helped her

    02:45

    Executives

    Esther Shapiro on her role as an Executive in ABC's miniseries department

    01:33

    Esther Shapiro on becoming Senior Vice-President at Aaron Spelling Productions

    01:32

    Show Creators

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on their pitching style

    01:06

    Writers

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on advice to aspiring television writers

    01:28

    Daytime/Primetime Serials

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on creation of Dynasty

    54:31

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing for the soap opera Love of Life and how it helped them later when creating Dynasty

    07:50

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the cast, producers, audience reaction, and memorable storylines on Dynasty

    28:52

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on memorable storylines and the legacy of Dynasty

    11:22

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the Dynasty spinoff The Colbys

    09:00

    TV Movies/Miniseries/Dramatic Specials

    Esther Shapiro on why miniseries worked well for the TV audience of the 1970s

    02:13

    Esther Shapiro on developing the miniseries Pearl

    03:35

    Esther Shapiro on developing the miniseries Roots: The Next Generation

    02:48

    Esther Shapiro on getting hired by ABC's Brandon Stoddard to start the miniseries department

    05:00

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing the made-for-TV movie Sarah T.: Portrait of a Teenage Alcoholic

    03:38

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing the made-for-TV movie Minstrel Man

    07:04

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on writing the made-for-TV movie Intimate Strangers

    03:02

    Marlon Brando

    Esther Shapiro on casting Marlon Brando in the miniseries Roots: The Next Generation

    01:22

    Diahann Carroll

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Dynasty star Diahann Carroll ("Dominique Deveraux")

    02:59

    Marcy Carsey

    Esther Shapiro on fellow female executives at ABC

    01:25

    Joan Collins

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the creation of Joan Collins' character ("Alexis Carrington") on Dynasty

    02:21

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on what Joan Collins brought to the character of "Alexis Carrington" on Dynasty

    01:39

    Douglas S. Cramer

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the producers of Dynasty

    00:44

    Barry Diller

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on working with Barry Diller at FOX

    00:57

    Robert Duvall

    Esther Shapiro on developing the miniseries Ike

    00:18

    Linda Evans

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the cast of Dynasty  - Linda Evans

    01:11

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Linda Evans' character "Krystle Carrington" on Dynasty

    00:56

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Rock Hudson's kiss with Linda Evans on Dynasty

    02:33

    John Forsythe

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on cast changes in the pilot of Dynasty  

    01:18

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the cast of Dynasty  - John Forsythe

    02:38

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on John Forsythe on Dynasty

    00:20

    Leonard H. Goldenson

    Esther Shapiro on working with ABC founder Leonard Goldenson

    02:18

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on ABC founder Leonard Goldenson's reaction the pilot of Dynasty  

    00:48

    Charlton Heston

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the actors and characters on The Colbys  - Charlton Heston as "Jason Colby"

    01:10

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Charlton Heston's input on the scripts of The Colbys

    01:03

    Rock Hudson

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Rock Hudson's kiss with Linda Evans on Dynasty

    02:33

    John James

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Dynasty star John James

    01:02

    Fay Kanin

    Esther Shapiro on developing the miniseries Friendly Fire, written by Fay Kanin

    01:26

    Ernest Kinoy

    Esther Shapiro on developing the miniseries Roots: The Next Generation

    00:18

    Heather Locklear

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Dynasty star Heather Locklear ("Sammy Jo Dean Carrington")

    01:56

    Nolan Miller

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Nolan Miller's costume design on Dynasty

    00:36

    Toni Morrison

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on consulting with Toni Morrison on the made-for-TV movie Minstrel Man

    00:59

    Peter O'Toole

    Esther Shapiro on developing the miniseries Masada

    01:30

    George Peppard

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on cast changes in the pilot of Dynasty  

    00:32

    Elaine Rich

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the producers of Dynasty

    00:44

    Katharine Ross

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the actors and characters on The Colbys  - Katharine Ross

    00:16

    George Schaefer

    Esther Shapiro on being Executive Story Consultant on Love Story with George Schaefer

    00:35

    Richard Shapiro

    Esther Shapiro on meeting her husband, Richard Shapiro, at UCLA

    00:43

    Esther Shapiro on her writing partnership with her husband, Richard Shapiro

    00:32

    Mel Shavelson

    Esther Shapiro on developing the miniseries Ike

    02:05

    Fred Silverman

    Esther Shapiro on working with Fred Silverman and Anthony D. Thomopoulos at ABC

    01:18

    Aaron Spelling

    Esther Shapiro on Aaron Spelling wanting to work with her and Richard Shapiro and starting to develop Dynasty

    01:09

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the idea for Dynasty

    02:33

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on Aaron Spelling's involvement with Dynasty

    02:37

    Esther Shapiro on becoming Senior Vice-President at Aaron Spelling Productions

    01:32

    Barbara Stanwyck

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on working with Barbara Stanwyck on The Colbys

    00:28

    Brandon Stoddard

    Esther Shapiro on getting hired by ABC's Brandon Stoddard to start the miniseries department

    01:26

    Irving Thalberg

    Esther Shapiro on her father's friendship with Irving Thalberg

    00:58

    Anthony D. Thomopoulos

    Esther Shapiro on working with Fred Silverman and Anthony D. Thomopoulos at ABC

    01:18

    Richard and Esther Shapiro on the pilot for Dynasty

    00:55

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