"I think Fame still resonates because what we did was so pure and it was honest ... those stories were always so compelling. The dancing and the singing were just revelatory to the audiences. They hadn't seen anything like that week to week to week."

    About This Interview

    In her two-hour interview, Debbie Allen discusses her beginnings in the entertainment industry. She talks of dancing and her Tony nomination for her role as "Anita" in West Side Story, and winning the Drama Desk Award. She recounts her various roles on television, including an appearance on Good Times and Captain Kangaroo, as well as her role in Roots: The Next Generation as "Nan." She then speaks about her part in the film Fame and how that led to one of the most famous roles of her television career, playing "Lydia Grant" on the TV version of Fame. She elaborates on wearing many hats on the show - as actress, choreographer, and eventually director and co-executive producer. She also discusses its deep resonance with audiences and how the show inspired and encouraged the creation of dance schools all over the world. Allen then describes how she was brought on to the show A Different World as the director and how she made the show more relevant to the times by covering topics pertinent to young adults, and tackling such subjects as AIDS and the Gulf War. She also mentions her involvement as director on the shows The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, Grey's Anatomy, and Everybody Hates Chris and describes what it was like choreographing sequences for the Academy Awards for ten years. Allen discusses her Emmy win for her choreography on the dance number "African American Odyssey" for the special Motown 30, What's Going On? and then elaborates on producing Amistad, a film project near and dear to her heart. She shares her views on the then-current popularity of reality dance TV shows and also recalls working with her sister, Phylicia Rashad, on the TV movies Old Settler and Polly. Stephen J. Abramson conducted the interview on April 15, 2011 at the Debbie Allen Dance Academy in Los Angeles, CA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Debbie Allen on the impact of Roots; on being cast as "Nan" in Roots: The Next Generations

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    Debbie Allen on the lasting impact of A Different World

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    Debbie Allen on the groundbreaking nature of A Different World

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    Chapter 1

    On her childhood and early influences; on the influence that TV had upon her at a young age, including The Ed Sullivan Show; on her first professional job as a dancer; on moving to New York; on her Tony nomination for "West Side Story"; on winning a Drama Desk Award

    16:04

    On her education at Howard University; on her first television role on Good Times; on working on children's show, Captain Kangaroo; on being cast as "Nan" in Roots: The Next Generations; on her role in the movie Fame; on the transition to her role on the TV show of the same name; on her character "Lydia Grant" in Fame; on how the TV show version of Fame differed from the film; on the craft of choreography for television, stage and film; on doing the choreography for the TV show, Fame; on the shooting schedule and locations for the show

    17:56

    On a typical week filming Fame; on juggling her various roles on the show; on the dance numbers in Fame each week; on challenging episodes of Fame; on the various talents of the cast of Fame; on the link between the shows Fame and Glee; on how her life changed as Fame became more popular; on restrictions and taboo subjects on Fame; on subjects covered on Fame including the "60's" episode and the homage to Hair

    09:13

    On when she started directing Fame for the episode "Lisa's Ghost"; on being the first African-American woman to direct scripted prime time television; on dealing with discrimination and sexism working as a choreographer and director; on becoming co-executive producer on Fame; on why the show ended; on the impact of the show; on the reality show based on Fame; on her role and impressions of the re-make of the film Fame; on why Fame still resonates with people three decades later; on her influence over arts programs in schools and the creation of performing arts schools around the world

    13:13

    On becoming a producer and director of A Different World; on how she made the show relevant to the times

    03:37

    Chapter 2

    On the original premise of A Different World; on the changes she made to the show; on why Lisa Bonet left A Different World; on working with Bill Cosby behind-the-scenes on A Different World; on being the first TV show to broach the subject of AIDS; on how television has changed over the years; on obstacles she had to overcome regarding story lines for the show

    15:52

    On approaching serious topics with humor on A Different World; on how the actors responded to the changes on A Different World; on the collaboration she facilitated between the actors and writers; on the groundbreaking nature of A Different World; on research for the show; on the theme song for the show; on how Carsey and Werner responded to the changes implemented on the show

    08:41

    On specific episodes of A Different World that addressed controversial issues; on the guest stars and popular characters on A Different World; on shooting the final episode of A Different World; on the lasting impact of A Different World

    12:10

    On directing episodes of Family Ties, the pilot for The Fresh Prince Of Bel-Air, and episodes of Everybody Hates Chris; on Grey's Anatomy; on choreographing the Academy Awards ten times; on her Emmy win for Motown 30, What's Going On? for choreographing "African American Odyssey"; on her work on Amistad; on the popularity of dance shows like Dancing With the Stars and So You Think You Can Dance; on working with her sister Phylicia Rashad on Polly and Old Settler

    20:08

    On advice she would give to someone aspiring to be a director or choreographer; on how she would like to be remembered

    02:10

    Academy Awards, The

    Debbie Allen on choreographing for the Academy Awards show ten times

    05:52

    Captain Kangaroo

    Debbie Allen on working on Captain Kangaroo

    00:31

    Dancing With the Stars

    Debbie Allen on the popularity of Dancing With the Stars and So You Think You Can Dance

    01:07

    Different World, A

    Debbie Allen on producing and directing A Different World

    03:37

    Debbie Allen on the premise of A Different World; on the changes she made to the show

    15:52

    Ed Sullivan Show, The aka Toast of the Town

    Debbie Allen on the influence The Ed Sullivan Show had upon her at an early age

    00:35

    Fame (1982-87)

    Debbie Allen on being cast as "Lydia" in the TV show Fame

    05:55

    Debbie Allen on doing the choreography for the TV show Fame

    00:42

    Debbie Allen on the direct link between the shows Fame and Glee

    00:40

    Family Ties

    Debbie Allen on directing episodes of Family Ties

    00:51

    Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, The

    Debbie Allen on directing the pilot for The Fresh Prince Of Bel-Air

    01:50

    Glee

    Debbie Allen on the direct link between the shows Fame and Glee

    00:40

    Good Times

    Debbie Allen on working on Good Times, her first television role

    02:51

    Roots: The Next Generations

    Debbie Allen on being cast as "Nan" in Roots: The Next Generations

    02:07

    So You Think You Can Dance

    Debbie Allen on the popularity of Dancing With the Stars and So You Think You Can Dance

    01:07

    Characters & Catchphrases

    Debbie Allen on famous quotes from the TV show Fame

    00:35

    Debbie Allen on why "Whitley" and "Dwayne" were such popular characters on A Different World

    01:07

    Emmy Awards

    Debbie Allen on being nominated for several Emmys for the TV show Fame

    00:38

    Debbie Allen on the Emmy winning "Othello" episode of Fame

    01:41

    Debbie Allen on her Emmy win for Motown 30, What's Going On? for choreographing "African American Odyssey"

    01:23

    Gulf War

    Debbie Allen on the episode of A Different World that addressed the Gulf War conflict

    02:11

    Health and Medicine

    Debbie Allen on how A Different World was the first network show on TV to broach the subject of AIDS

    03:10

    Memorable Moments on Television

    Debbie Allen on the episode of A Different World that dealt with the L.A. riots

    01:47

    Representation on Television

    Debbie Allen on casting Marisa Tomei as the only Caucasian character on A Different World

    00:53

    TV Theme Songs

    Debbie Allen on the theme song for A Different World

    00:53

    Underrepresented Voices

    Debbie Allen on the impact of Roots; on being cast as "Nan" in Roots: The Next Generations

    02:07

    Dancer/Choreographer

    Debbie Allen on when she knew she wanted to be a dancer

    00:54

    Debbie Allen on her dedication to her profession

    01:10

    Debbie Allen on advice she would give to someone aspiring to be a director or choreographer

    01:32

    Directors

    Debbie Allen on the collaborative effort needed to direct and produce a strong show

    02:43

    Performers

    Debbie Allen on advice she would give to someone aspiring to be a director or choreographer

    01:32

    Awards Shows

    Debbie Allen on choreographing the Academy Awards ten times

    05:52

    Children's Programming

    Debbie Allen on working on Captain Kangaroo

    00:31

    Comedy Series

    Debbie Allen on working on Good Times, her first television role

    02:51

    Debbie Allen on producing and directing A Different World

    03:37

    Debbie Allen on the genius of how Family Ties was produced

    00:56

    Debbie Allen on the changes she made to the show A Different World

    15:52

    Drama Series

    Debbie Allen on being cast in the TV show Fame

    05:55

    Debbie Allen on the link between TV shows, Fame and Glee

    00:40

    Reality TV

    Debbie Allen on the popularity of Reality TV dance shows like Dancing With the Stars and So You Think You Can Dance

    01:07

    TV Movies/Miniseries/Dramatic Specials

    Debbie Allen on the impact of Roots; on being cast as "Nan" in Roots: The Next Generations

    02:07

    Debbie Allen on working with her sister Phylicia Rashad on Old Settler for PBS Presents

    01:41

    Debbie Allen on working with her sister Phylicia Rashad on the movie of the week, Polly

    00:54

    Leonard Bernstein

    Debbie Allen on working with Leonard Bernstein

    01:32

    William Blinn

    Debbie Allen on working with William Blinn on the TV show Fame

    01:57

    Lisa Bonet

    Debbie Allen on why Lisa Bonet left A Different World

    02:44

    Diahann Carroll

    Debbie Allen on working with Diahann Carroll, her favorite guest star on A Different World

    01:12

    Marcy Carsey

    Debbie Allen on working with Marcy Carsey, Tom Werner, and Caryn Mandabach on A Different World

    03:37

    Debbie Allen on how Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner responded to the changes she implemented on A Different World

    00:44

    Bill Cosby

    Debbie Allen on being hired by Bill Cosby to produce and direct A Different World

    03:37

    Debbie Allen on working with Bill Cosby behind-the-scenes on A Different World

    07:48

    Aretha Franklin

    Debbie Allen on the theme song for A Different World

    00:53

    Gary David Goldberg

    Debbie Allen on the genius of how Family Ties was handled

    00:50

    Whoopi Goldberg

    Debbie Allen on working with Whoopi Goldberg on the AIDS episode of A Different World

    01:33

    Jasmine Guy

    Debbie Allen on working with Jasmine Guy on A Different World

    01:07

    Debbie Allen on the episode idea from Jasmine Guy for A Different World dealing with the Persian Gulf War

    02:11

    Uta Hagen

    Debbie Allen on training for dance with Uta Hagen

    01:32

    Kadeem Hardison

    Debbie Allen on working with Kadeem Hardison on A Different World

    01:54

    Lena Horne

    Debbie Allen on on the large number of prominent guest stars that appeared on A Different World including Lena Horne

    01:12

    Warren Littlefield

    Debbie Allen on Warren Littlefield's response to advertisers' reactions to the AIDS episode on A Different World

    03:10

    Phylicia Rashad

    Debbie Allen on working with her sister Phylicia Rashad on Old Settler and Polly

    02:35

    Gene Anthony Ray

    Debbie Allen on working with Gene Anthony Ray on the TV show Fame

    01:22

    Debbie Allen on the talents of Gene Anthony Ray, Lori Singer, Carlo Imperato, Lee Carreri, and Doris Schwartz

    01:39

    Will Smith

    Debbie Allen on working with Will Smith and Alfonso Ribeiro on The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air

    01:51

    Steven Spielberg

    Debbie Allen on working with Steven Spielberg on Amistad

    03:54

    Marisa Tomei

    Debbie Allen on working with Marisa Tomei on A Different World

    00:53

    Tom Werner

    Debbie Allen on working with Marcy Carsey, Tom Werner, and Caryn Mandabach on A Different World

    03:37

    Debbie Allen on how Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner responded to the changes she implemented on A Different World

    00:44

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