"We believed that strong independent voices were really necessary in getting good programming out."

    About This Interview

    In the half-hour solo portion of her interview, Marcy Carsey discusses her first job as an NBC tour guide and how it led to working on The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson, at an advertising agency, and at other production companies. She discusses moving to ABC in 1974, where she worked in comedy programming and development and hired future producing partner Tom Werner. Carsey recalls leaving ABC in 1980 to start her own production company, and Werner joining her a year later.

    In the one-and-a-half-hour joint portion of their interview, Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner talk about developing a number of shows before creating their major 1984 hit, The Cosby Show. They speak of producing hit series A Different World, Roseanne, Grace Under Fire, Cybill, and 3rd Rock from the Sun. Carsey and Warner also speak about their longtime partner Caryn Mandabach and the challenges facing independent production companies. Karen Herman conducted the interviews on March 10, 2003 in Los Angeles, CA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Chapter 1

    On her childhood and early influences; on her early interest in television and her involvement with theater; on moving to New York

    05:51

    On discovering the television industry in New York and becoming an NBC tour guide; on working for The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson and at an advertising agency

    03:44

    On moving to Los Angeles; on acting in commercials and getting hired at ABC in 1974; on shows she helped get on the air at ABC

    12:11

    On going into development and hiring Tom Werner; on leaving ABC in 1980 and becoming an independent producer

    04:12

    On investing in the Oxygen network; on then-recent projects

    02:32

    Chapter 2

    START OF JOINT INTERVIEW WITH MARCY CARSEY AND TOM WERNER; on the Carsey Company and not making a studio deal early on; on their business partnership and getting Oh Madeline on the air

    06:25

    On developing their first big hit, The Cosby Show; on the difficulty of selling the show; on the program's success once it aired

    13:56

    On casting The Cosby Show; on their day-to-day duties as Executive Producers of The Cosby Show

    07:31

    Chapter 3

    On the end of The Cosby Show; on working with Bill Cosby; on the Cosby spin-off A Different World

    05:08

    On developing Roseanne; on casting the show, how fame changed Roseanne, and the end of the show

    11:16

    On having several hit shows on the air at the same time; on negotiations with networks for a joint venture

    07:05

    On developing and executive producing Grace Under Fire and Cybill

    04:41

    Chapter 4

    On the structure of their company and their division of duties; on their partnership and their strengths

    06:55

    On what makes a successful producer; on what they look for in a writer; on the importance of syndication

    05:11

    On producing and casting 3rd Rock From the Sun

    06:46

    On producing That '70s Show

    01:45

    On their favorite stories about each other

    02:56

    On producing Grounded For Life; on Caryn Mandabach

    05:08

    3rd Rock From the Sun

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on producing 3rd Rock From the Sun

    03:49

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on casting 3rd Rock From the Sun

    02:57

    Barney Miller

    Marcy Carsey on suggesting Barney Miller go on the air

    00:43

    Cosby Show, The

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on the end of The Cosby Show run; on working with Bill Cosby

    02:29

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on developing their first big hit, The Cosby Show

    04:44

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on when they realized that The Cosby Show would be a hit (the Monopoly scene in the pilot)

    02:05

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on the difficulty of selling The Cosby Show; on pitching the show and hiding from NBC executives

    05:39

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on the success of The Cosby Show once it aired

    01:28

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on casting The Cosby Show

    05:05

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on their day-to-day duties as Executive Producers of The Cosby Show

    02:26

    Cybill

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on developing and executive producing Cybill

    03:05

    Different World, A

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on the Cosby spin-off A Different World and the awareness the program brought to black colleges

    02:38

    Grace Under Fire

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on developing and executive producing Grace Under Fire

    01:34

    Maverick

    Marcy Carsey on her love of the show Maverick and meeting James Garner later in life

    00:57

    Oh Madeline

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on getting Oh Madeline on the air

    00:23

    Roseanne

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on developing and casting Roseanne

    09:21

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on how Roseanne evolved throughout the run of the show

    01:07

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on the end of Roseanne

    00:48

    Soap

    Marcy Carsey on fighting for Soap to air

    00:42

    That '70s Show

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on producing 3rd Rock From the Sun

    01:45

    Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson, The

    Marcy Carsey on her low level job at The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson and transitioning to Assistant to the Associate Producer

    02:09

    Fame and Celebrity

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on problems with Roseanne on the set of Roseanne and how fame changed her

    02:52

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Marcy Carsey on the progression of her career at ABC and becoming head of series television

    02:05

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on the Cosby spin-off A Different World and the awareness the program brought to black colleges

    02:38

    Memorable Moments on Television

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on when they realized that The Cosby Show would be a hit (the Monopoly scene in the pilot)

    02:05

    Network Creation

    Marcy Carsey on investing in the Oxygen network

    01:05

    Representation on Television

    Marcy Carsey on the progression of her career at ABC and becoming head of series television

    02:05

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on the Cosby spin-off A Different World and the awareness the program brought to black colleges

    02:38

    Television Industry

    Marcy Carsey on investing in the Oxygen network

    01:05

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on problems with Roseanne on the set of Roseanne and how fame changed her

    02:52

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on negotiations with networks for a joint venture upon the end of the fin-syn rules

    05:25

    Underrepresented Voices

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on the Cosby spin-off A Different World and the awareness the program brought to black colleges

    02:38

    We Laughed

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on when they realized that The Cosby Show would be a hit (the Monopoly scene in the pilot)

    02:05

    Women

    Marcy Carsey on the progression of her career at ABC and becoming head of series television

    02:05

    Producers

    Marcy Carsey on leaving ABC in 1980

    01:50

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on their day-to-day duties as Executive Producers of The Cosby Show

    02:26

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on what makes a successful producer

    02:47

    Comedy Series

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on developing and casting Roseanne

    10:28

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on the end of The Cosby Show and the Cosby spin-off A Different World

    05:08

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on developing and casting their first big hit, The Cosby Show

    21:27

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on producing and casting 3rd Rock From the Sun

    06:46

    Commercials

    Marcy Carsey on acting in commercials

    00:34

    Christine Baranski

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on working with Christine Baranski on Cybill

    01:15

    Lisa Bonet

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on casting Lisa Bonet on The Cosby Show

    00:25

    Marcy Carsey

    Tom Werner on his favorite story about Marcy Carsey

    01:28

    Bill Cosby

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on the end of The Cosby Show run; on working with Bill Cosby

    02:29

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on developing their first big hit, The Cosby Show

    03:37

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on Bill Cosby's conditions for agreeing to do The Cosby Show

    01:07

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on The Cosby Show's long tapings

    01:14

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on telling Bill Cosby The Cosby Show was the number one show on television

    00:35

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on their day-to-day duties as Executive Producers of The Cosby Show

    02:26

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on what makes a successful producer

    02:47

    Jane Curtin

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on casting Jane Curtin on 3rd Rock From the Sun

    00:30

    Michael Eisner

    Marcy Carsey on Michael Eisner hiring her at ABC even though she was pregnant

    00:59

    James Garner

    Marcy Carsey on her love of the show Maverick and meeting James Garner later in life

    00:57

    Leonard H. Goldenson

    Marcy Carsey on ABC founder Leonard Goldenson's involvement in the network

    00:58

    John Goodman

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on the importance of John Goodman on Roseanne

    01:27

    John Lithgow

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on casting John Lithgow on 3rd Rock From the Sun

    02:57

    Chuck Lorre

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on Chuck Lorre as head writer of Cybill

    00:26

    Phylicia Rashad

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on The Cosby Show's long tapings

    01:14

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on casting Phylicia Rashad on The Cosby Show

    01:26

    Roseanne

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on wanting the comedienne Roseanne for their new sitcom when developing Roseanne

    00:52

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on Roseanne's input in developing Roseanne and problems with her on set

    05:05

    Jay Sandrich

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on The Cosby Show's long tapings

    01:14

    Cybill Shepherd

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on developing and executive producing Cybill

    01:24

    Brandon Tartikoff

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on working with Brandon Tartikoff at NBC and selling The Cosby Show

    00:44

    Tom Werner

    Marcy Carsey on going into development and hiring Tom Werner

    02:22

    Marcy Carsey on her favorite story about Tom Werner

    01:20

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