"They've got their own demands, the networks. And they've got their own schedules. But we would rather get it right and not screw it up, because you've got only one chance with the audience."

    About This Interview

    In the half-hour solo portion of his interview, Tom Werner speaks of working first in documentaries, then joining ABC's planning and development department. He recalls the shows he helped develop on ABC, including Mork & Mindy. Werner speaks about discovering Tom Hanks and fighting for Hanks to appear in Bosom Buddies, and leaving ABC to join Marcy Carsey at her own production company.

    In the one-and-a-half-hour joint portion of their interview, Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner talk about developing a number of shows before creating their major 1984 hit, The Cosby Show. They speak of producing hit series A Different World, Roseanne, Grace Under Fire, Cybill, and 3rd Rock from the Sun. Carsey and Warner also speak about their longtime partner Caryn Mandabach and the challenges facing independent production companies. Karen Herman conducted the interviews on March 10, 2003 in Los Angeles, CA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on The Cosby Show's long tapings

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    Chapter 1

    On his childhood and early influences; on making documentaries during and after college

    07:24

    On his first job at ABC as a junior research assistant; on working in the ABC entertainment division and methodologies used in research

    05:25

    On studying British shows and helping to get Three's Company made; on working with Fred Silverman

    06:45

    On moving to Los Angeles and becoming Manager of ABC Comedy Development; on shows he helped develop, including Mork & Mindy

    07:00

    On Marcy Carsey leaving ABC; on discovering Tom Hanks

    02:15

    Chapter 2

    On fighting for Tom Hanks to appear in Bosom Buddies; on leaving ABC to join Marcy Carsey as an independent producer

    01:34

    START OF JOINT INTERVIEW WITH MARCY CARSEY AND TOM WERNER: on the Carsey Company and not making a studio deal early on; on their business partnership and getting Oh Madeline on the air

    06:25

    On developing their first big hit, The Cosby Show; on the difficulty of selling the show; on the program's success once it aired

    13:56

    On casting The Cosby Show; on their day-to-day duties as Executive Producers of The Cosby Show

    07:31

    Chapter 3

    On the end of The Cosby Show; on working with Bill Cosby; on the Cosby spin-off A Different World 

    05:08

    On developing Roseanne; on casting the show, how fame changed Roseanne, and the end of the show 

    11:16

    On having several hit shows on the air at the same time; on negotiations with networks for a joint venture

    07:05

    On developing and executive producing Grace Under Fire  and Cybill

    04:41

    Chapter 4

    On the structure of their company and their division of duties; on their partnership and their strengths

    06:55

    On what makes a successful producer; on what they look for in a writer; on the importance of syndication

    05:11

    On producing and casting 3rd Rock From the Sun

    06:46

    On producing That '70s Show

    01:45

    On their favorite stories about each other

    02:56

    On producing Grounded For Life; on Caryn Mandabach

    05:08

    3rd Rock From the Sun

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on producing 3rd Rock From the Sun

    03:49

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on casting 3rd Rock From the Sun

    02:57

    Bosom Buddies

    Tom Werner on the show Bosom Buddies starring Tom Hanks

    00:25

    Cosby Show, The

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on developing their first big hit, The Cosby Show

    04:44

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on when they realized that The Cosby Show would be a hit (the Monopoly scene in the pilot)

    02:05

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on the difficulty of selling The Cosby Show; on pitching the show and hiding from NBC executives

    05:39

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on the success of The Cosby Show once it aired

    01:28

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on casting The Cosby Show

    05:05

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on their day-to-day duties as Executive Producers of The Cosby Show

    02:26

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on the end of The Cosby Show run; on working with Bill Cosby

    02:29

    Cybill

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on developing and executive producing Cybill

    03:05

    Different World, A

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on the Cosby spin-off A Different World and the awareness the program brought to black colleges

    02:38

    Grace Under Fire

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on developing and executive producing Grace Under Fire

    01:34

    Kolchak: The Night Stalker

    Tom Werner on methodologies used in research and ways to manipulate it (and how it was manipulated to keep Kolchak: The Night Stalker on the air)

    02:19

    Mork & Mindy

    Tom Werner on developing a show for Robin Williams, which became Mork & Mindy

    02:38

    Oh Madeline

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on getting Oh Madeline on the air

    00:22

    Roseanne

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on developing and casting Roseanne  

    09:21

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on how Roseanne evolved throughout the run of the show

    01:07

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on the end of Roseanne  

    00:48

    That '70s Show

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on producing 3rd Rock From the Sun

    01:45

    Three's Company

    Tom Werner on helping to get Three's Company made

    02:13

    Creative Influences and Inspiration

    Tom Werner on lessons learned from Michael Eisner about development

    00:30

    Fame and Celebrity

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on problems with Roseanne on the set of Roseanne and how fame changed her

    02:52

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on the Cosby  spin-off A Different World  and the awareness the program brought to black colleges

    02:38

    Memorable Moments on Television

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on when they realized that The Cosby Show would be a hit (the Monopoly scene in the pilot)

    02:05

    Representation on Television

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on the Cosby spin-off A Different World  and the awareness the program brought to black colleges

    02:38

    Television Industry

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on problems with Roseanne on the set of Roseanne  and how fame changed her

    02:52

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on negotiations with networks for a joint venture upon the end of the fin-syn rules

    05:25

    Underrepresented Voices

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on the Cosby spin-off A Different World and the awareness the program brought to black colleges

    02:38

    We Laughed

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on when they realized that The Cosby Show would be a hit (the Monopoly scene in the pilot)

    02:05

    Producers

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on their day-to-day duties as Executive Producers of The Cosby Show

    02:26

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on what makes a successful producer

    02:47

    Comedy Series

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on developing and casting their first big hit, The Cosby Show

    21:27

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on developing and casting Roseanne  

    10:28

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on the end of The Cosby Show and the Cosby spin-off A Different World 

    05:08

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on producing and casting 3rd Rock From the Sun

    06:46

    Christine Baranski

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on working with Christine Baranski on Cybill

    01:15

    Lisa Bonet

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on casting Lisa Bonet on The Cosby Show

    00:25

    Marcy Carsey

    Tom Werner on interviewing with Marcy Carsey to work in ABC comedy development and his working relationship with Marcy Carsey

    02:40

    Tom Werner on Marcy Carsey leaving ABC

    01:26

    Tom Werner on leaving ABC to join Marcy Carsey as an independent producer

    01:05

    Tom Werner on his favorite story about Marcy Carsey

    01:28

    Bill Cosby

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on developing their first big hit, The Cosby Show

    03:37

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on Bill Cosby's conditions for agreeing to do The Cosby Show

    01:07

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on The Cosby Show's long tapings

    01:14

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on telling Bill Cosby The Cosby Show was the number one show on television

    00:35

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on their day-to-day duties as Executive Producers of The Cosby Show

    02:26

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on the end of The Cosby Show  run; on working with Bill Cosby

    02:29

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on what makes a successful producer

    02:47

    Jane Curtin

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on casting Jane Curtin on 3rd Rock From the Sun

    00:30

    Pam Dawber

    Tom Werner on developing a show for Robin Williams, which became Mork & Mindy

    02:38

    Michael Eisner

    Tom Werner on lessons learned from Michael Eisner about development

    00:30

    John Goodman

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on the importance of John Goodman on Roseanne  

    01:27

    Tom Hanks

    Tom Werner on discovering Tom Hanks

    00:49

    John Lithgow

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on casting John Lithgow on 3rd Rock From the Sun

    02:57

    Chuck Lorre

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on Chuck Lorre as head writer of Cybill

    00:26

    Garry Marshall

    Tom Werner on developing a show for Robin Williams, which became Mork & Mindy

    02:38

    Frederick S. Pierce

    Tom Werner on methodologies used in research and ways to manipulate it

    02:19

    Phylicia Rashad

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on The Cosby Show's long tapings

    01:14

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on casting Phylicia Rashad on The Cosby Show

    01:26

    Roseanne

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on wanting the comedienne Roseanne for their new sitcom when developing Roseanne  

    00:52

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on Roseanne's input in developing Roseanne and problems with her on set

    05:05

    Jay Sandrich

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on The Cosby Show's long tapings

    01:14

    Cybill Shepherd

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on developing and executive producing Cybill

    01:24

    Fred Silverman

    Tom Werner on helping to get Three's Company made

    01:43

    Tom Werner on working with Fred Silverman and other talented ABC Executives

    04:11

    Brandon Tartikoff

    Marcy Carsey and Tom Werner on working with Brandon Tartikoff at NBC and selling The Cosby Show

    00:44

    Tom Werner

    Marcy Carsey on her favorite story about Tom Werner

    01:20

    Robin Williams

    Tom Werner on developing a show for Robin Williams, which became Mork & Mindy

    02:38

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