"For me, it was really a mission to get hip-hop dance to be considered a true art form of dance."  

    About This Interview

    In her two-and-a-half-hour interview, Fatima Robinson discusses her early interest in dance and hip-hop, and how she got her start dancing in and choreographing music videos. She talks about meeting John Singleton and appearing as an extra in his film Boyz N the Hood, and later working with Singleton when she choreographed the music video for Michael Jackson's "Remember the Time." She describes choreographing music videos for Mary J. Blige, Whitney Houston, Bobby Brown, Brandy, Dr. Dre, Tupac Shakur, Busta Rhymes, and Aaliyah. Robinson then discusses working with the Backstreet Boys, choreographing the play Radiant Baby directed by George C. Wolfe, and how that experience helped her when she choreographed the films Dreamgirls and The Color Purple. She recalls taking classes at the New York Film Academy and how she began directing music videos. She talks about choreographing episodes of The Drew Carey Show and Black-ish, the TV movies Lackawanna Blues and Their Eyes Were Watching God, and being director of choreography for Beyoncé's Renaissance World Tour. Robinson speaks about the craft of choreography, being a choreographer/executive producer on We Are One: The Obama Inaugural Celebration at the Lincoln Memorial, and teaching a master class at the White House alongside Debbie Allen, Judith Jamison, and Virginia Johnson. She outlines choreographing the NBC special The Wiz Live!, being a creative director/segment producer on The Voice, and on working on several music videos and performances with Pharrell Williams. She recalls choreographing the halftime shows for Super Bowl XLV (Black Eyed Peas) and for Super Bowl LVI (Dr. Dre and West Coast hip-hop All-Stars), and choreographing American Soul, several performances for the Grammys, and Beyoncé's performance at the 2022 Oscars. She discusses her role as a segment producer for the 50th anniversary of hip-hop performances at the 2023 Grammys, and concludes with remarks on how the industry has changed since she first started out and advice to aspiring choreographers. Adrienne Faillace conducted the interview on October 5, 2023 in Ojai, CA.

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    Fatima Robinson on teaching Michael Jackson the choreography for the music video for "Remember the Time" and working with him

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    Fatima Robinson on choreographing for Aaliyah -- including her music videos for "One in a Million," "Are You That Somebody?", "Try Again," and "Rock the Boat" -- and on her legacy

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    Fatima Robinson on working with Pharrell Williams on the music video for "Happy"

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    Fatima Robinson on Blue Ivy Carter's dance solos during Beyoncé's Renaissance World Tour

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    Chapter 1

    On her childhood and early interest in dance and hip-hop; on how she got her start dancing in and choreographing music videos; on some of the first music video sets she was on; on John Singleton making her an extra in his film Boyz N the Hood; on meeting Lionel Martin and on how she became a choreographer; on Rosie Perez encouraging her to call herself a choreographer

    12:52

    On choreographing the music video for Michael Jackson's "Remember the Time" and on how that impacted her career

    14:33

    On choreographing music videos for Mary J. Blige, Whitney Houston, Bobby Brown, Brandy, Dr. Dre, and Tupac Shakur

    12:17

    On choreographing for Busta Rhymes and Aaliyah; on Aaliyah's legacy

    10:29

    Chapter 2

    On choreographing for the Backstreet Boys; on her work being in demand by a wide array of artists; on choreographing the play Radiant Baby, directed by George C. Wolfe, and how that helped her when she choreographed the films Dreamgirls and The Color Purple

    17:51

    On taking classes at the New York Film Academy and getting more interested in directing and creative directing; on directing music videos; on choreographing episodes of The Drew Carey Show and Black-ish; on choreographing the TV movies Lackawanna Blues and Their Eyes Were Watching God; on her research for choreographing the films Dreamgirls and The Color Purple

    15:53

    On the craft of choreography -- the role of a choreographer and how choreography can impact storytelling; on the importance of footwear, costumes, and rehearsal in choreography; on the space where she feels freest as a creative person -- concerts; on being director of choreography for Beyoncé's Renaissance World Tour

    13:35

    On being a choreographer/executive producer on We Are One: The Obama Inaugural Celebration at the Lincoln Memorial; on teaching a master class at the White House alongside Debbie Allen, Judith Jamison, and Virginia Johnson; on choreographing the NBC special The Wiz Live!; on the process for choreographing performances on music competition shows; on being a creative director/segment producer on The Voice; on working on several music videos and performances with Pharrell Williams

    14:37

    Chapter 3

    On choreographing the halftime shows for Super Bowl XLV (Black Eyed Peas) and for Super Bowl LVI (Dr. Dre and West Coast hip-hop All-Stars)

    10:37

    On choreographing American Soul, several performances for the Grammys, and Beyoncé's performance at the 2022 Oscars; on being a segment producer for the 50th anniversary of hip-hop performances at the 2023 Grammys

    11:06

    On how choreographing for television has changed since she first started; on how opportunities have changed since she started working; on how hip-hop has changed since she first started out; on her mentors and on mentoring others; on the value of oral history interviews; on her proudest career achievement and career regrets; on a dream project she'd love to do, where she sees herself in ten years, and how she'd like to be remembered

    10:47

    Academy Awards, The

    Fatima Robinson on working with Pharrell Williams on his performance of "Happy" at the Oscars

    01:05

    Fatima Robinson on receiving her first choreography Emmy nomination for Beyoncé's performance at the 2022 Oscars

    02:25

    American Soul

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing American Soul

    01:41

    Black-ish

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing the "Juneteenth" and "Purple Rain" episodes of Black-ish

    02:44

    Dancing With the Stars

    Fatima Robinson on the process for choreographing performances on music competition shows

    01:16

    Drew Carey Show, The

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing an episode of The Drew Carey Show called "Drew Gets Out of the Nuthouse"

    01:38

    Grammys, The

    Fatima Robinson on working with Pharrell Williams on his performance of "Happy" at the Grammys

    01:12

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing Kendrick Lamar's performance at the 2016 Grammys

    02:11

    Fatima Robinson on being a producer of the 2021 Grammys and working with Lil Baby on his performance

    01:29

    Fatima Robinson on being a segment producer for the 50th anniversary of hip-hop performances at the 2023 Grammys

    02:18

    Lackawanna Blues

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing the TV movie Lackawanna Blues

    01:06

    Super Bowl

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing the halftime show for Super Bowl XLV (Black Eyed Peas) and the challenges of working on a halftime show

    03:05

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing the halftime show for Super Bowl LVI (Dr. Dre and West Coast hip-hop All-Stars) and how the COVID-19 pandemic impacted the show

    07:27

    Their Eyes Were Watching God

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing the TV movie Their Eyes Were Watching God

    01:27

    Voice, The

    Fatima Robinson on the process for choreographing performances on music competition shows

    01:16

    Fatima Robinson on being a creative director/segment producer on The Voice

    00:51

    We Are One: The Obama Inaugural Celebration at the Lincoln Memorial

    Fatima Robinson on being a choreographer/executive producer on We Are One: The Obama Inaugural Celebration at the Lincoln Memorial

    03:36

    Wiz Live!, The

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing the NBC special The Wiz Live!

    03:52

    Advice

    Fatima Robinson on advice to an aspiring choreographer

    00:55

    COVID-19 Pandemic

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing the halftime show for Super Bowl LVI (Dr. Dre and West Coast hip-hop All-Stars) and how the COVID-19 pandemic impacted the show

    02:25

    Creative Influences and Inspiration

    Fatima Robinson on her mentor, Sylvia Rhone, and on mentoring others

    01:05

    Emmy Awards

    Fatima Robinson on receiving her first Emmy nomination for producing the 2021 Grammys, and her first choreography Emmy nomination for Beyonce's performance at the 2022 Oscars

    02:45

    First Big Break

    Fatima Robinson on John Singleton asking her to choreograph the music video for Michael Jackson's "Remember the Time"

    00:34

    Health and Medicine

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing the halftime show for Super Bowl LVI (Dr. Dre and West Coast hip-hop All-Stars) and how the COVID-19 pandemic impacted the show

    02:25

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Fatima Robinson on working with Pharrell Williams on his performance of "Happy" at the Grammys

    01:12

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing the "Juneteenth" and "Purple Rain" episodes of Black-ish

    02:44

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing the halftime show for Super Bowl LVI (Dr. Dre and West Coast hip-hop All-Stars) and how the COVID-19 pandemic impacted the show

    02:25

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing Kendrick Lamar's performance at the 2016 Grammys and working with Lil Baby on his performance at the 2021 Grammys

    03:40

    Fatima Robinson on receiving her first choreography Emmy nomination, for Beyoncé's performance at the 2022 Oscars

    02:25

    Pivotal Career Moments

    Fatima Robinson on John Singleton asking her to choreograph the music video for Michael Jackson's "Remember the Time"

    00:34

    Fatima Robinson on her mentor, Sylvia Rhone, and on mentoring others

    01:05

    Pop Culture

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing the music video for Michael Jackson's "Remember the Time" and on how that impacted her career

    14:34

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing music videos for Mary J. Blige, Whitney Houston, Bobby Brown, Brandy, Dr. Dre, Tupac Shakur, Busta Rhymes, and Aaliyah

    22:38

    Fatima Robinson on directing the music video for "Hey Mama" and working with Will.i.am

    00:46

    Fatima Robinson on directing music videos for Meghan Trainor, including "All About That Bass"

    02:08

    Fatima Robinson on the power of live concerts and being director of choreography for Beyoncé's Renaissance World Tour

    07:25

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing for the Backstreet Boys

    03:51

    Fatima Robinson on how hip-hop has changed since she first started out

    01:00

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing the halftime show for Super Bowl LVI (Dr. Dre and West Coast hip-hop All-Stars) and how the COVID-19 pandemic impacted the show

    07:27

    Representation on Television

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing the "Juneteenth" and "Purple Rain" episodes of Black-ish

    02:44

    Television Industry

    Fatima Robinson on how choreographing for television has changed since she first started

    00:48

    Fatima Robinson on advice to an aspiring choreographer

    00:55

    Underrepresented Voices

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing the "Juneteenth" and "Purple Rain" episodes of Black-ish

    02:44

    Dancer/Choreographer

    Fatima Robinson on how she started dancing in music videos

    02:08

    Fatima Robinson on her dance style: hip-hop

    00:52

    Fatima Robinson on on some of the first music video sets she was on and on meeting Lionel Martin and Hype Williams

    02:24

    Fatima Robinson on her process for coming up with choreography

    00:24

    Fatima Robinson on her timeline and process for creating choreography for the music video for "Remember the Time" and on her process for auditioning actors

    02:13

    Fatima Robinson on her process for working with an artist for the first time

    01:00

    Fatima Robinson on what makes for a good relationship between a choreographer and a director

    00:52

    Fatima Robinson on the process of choreographing for episodic television

    00:54

    Fatima Robinson on the role of a choreographer and how choreography can impact storytelling

    03:30

    Fatima Robinson on the importance of footwear, costumes, and rehearsal in choreography

    01:14

    Fatima Robinson on the space where she feels freest as a creative person -- concerts

    02:13

    Fatima Robinson on the process for choreographing performances on music competition shows

    01:16

    Fatima Robinson on how choreographing for television has changed since she first started

    00:48

    Fatima Robinson on how opportunities have changed since she started working

    00:57

    Fatima Robinson on advice to an aspiring choreographer

    00:55

    Directors

    Fatima Robinson on taking classes at the New York Film Academy and getting more interested in directing and creative directing

    01:28

    Performers

    Fatima Robinson on how she started dancing in music videos

    02:08

    Fatima Robinson on her dance style: hip-hop

    00:52

    Fatima Robinson on on some of the first music video sets she was on and on meeting Lionel Martin and Hype Williams

    02:24

    Fatima Robinson on her process for coming up with choreography

    00:24

    Fatima Robinson on her timeline and process for creating choreography for the music video for "Remember the Time" and on her process for auditioning actors

    02:13

    Fatima Robinson on her process for working with an artist for the first time

    01:00

    Fatima Robinson on what makes for a good relationship between a choreographer and a director

    00:52

    Fatima Robinson on the process of choreographing for episodic television

    00:54

    Fatima Robinson on the role of a choreographer and how choreography can impact storytelling

    03:30

    Fatima Robinson on the importance of footwear, costumes, and rehearsal in choreography

    01:14

    Fatima Robinson on the space where she feels freest as a creative person -- concerts

    02:13

    Fatima Robinson on the process for choreographing performances on music competition shows

    01:16

    Fatima Robinson on how choreographing for television has changed since she first started

    00:48

    Fatima Robinson on how opportunities have changed since she started working

    00:57

    Fatima Robinson on advice to an aspiring choreographer

    00:55

    Producers

    Fatima Robinson on being a choreographer/executive producer on We Are One: The Obama Inaugural Celebration at the Lincoln Memorial, and on what she brings to a project as a producer

    03:36

    Awards Shows

    Fatima Robinson on working with Pharrell Williams on his performances of "Happy" at the Grammys and the Oscars

    02:22

    Fatima Robinson on the challenges of working on live awards shows

    00:38

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing and/or producing segments for the Grammys and the Oscars

    08:46

    Comedy Series

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing an episode of The Drew Carey Show called "Drew Gets Out of the Nuthouse" and the "Juneteenth" and "Purple Rain" episodes of Black-ish

    05:17

    Commercials

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing the "Khaki Soul" commercial for Gap, appearing in the commercial, and having a long relationship with the company

    03:49

    Drama Series

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing American Soul

    01:41

    Music Shows & Variety Shows/Specials

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing music videos for Michael Jackson, Mary J. Blige, Whitney Houston, Bobby Brown, Brandy, Dr. Dre, Tupac Shakur, Busta Rhymes, and Aaliyah

    37:17

    Fatima Robinson on directing music videos for "Hey Mama" and for several Meghan Trainor songs

    02:54

    Fatima Robinson on being a choreographer/executive producer on We Are One: The Obama Inaugural Celebration at the Lincoln Memorial

    03:36

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing the NBC special The Wiz Live!

    09:52

    Fatima Robinson on the process for choreographing performances on music competition shows, and on her work on specific programs

    02:08

    Reality TV

    Fatima Robinson on the process for choreographing performances on music competition shows, and on her work on specific programs

    02:08

    Sports

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing the halftime shows for Super Bowl XLV (Black Eyed Peas) and Super Bowl LVI (Dr. Dre and West Coast hip-hop All-Stars)

    10:37

    TV Movies/Miniseries/Dramatic Specials

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing the TV movies Lackawanna Blues and Their Eyes Were Watching God

    02:32

    Aaliyah

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing for Aaliyah -- including her music videos for "One in a Million," "Are You That Somebody?", "Try Again," and "Rock the Boat" -- and on her legacy

    07:33

    Debbie Allen

    Fatima Robinson on teaching a master class at the White House alongside Debbie Allen, Judith Jamison, and Virginia Johnson

    01:07

    Backstreet Boys

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing for the Backstreet Boys

    03:51

    Beyoncé

    Fatima Robinson on the power of live concerts -- and Beyoncé's "mute" during her Renaissance World Tour

    00:59

    Fatima Robinson on being director of choreography for Beyoncé's Renaissance World Tour

    02:52

    Fatima Robinson on Blue Ivy Carter's dance solos during Beyoncé's Renaissance World Tour

    02:41

    Fatima Robinson on Beyoncé's goal with the Renaissance World Tour

    00:51

    Fatima Robinson on receiving her first choreography Emmy nomination, for Beyoncé's performance at the 2022 Oscars

    02:25

    Mary J. Blige

    Fatima Robinson on working with Mary J. Blige

    01:08

    Fatima Robinson on working with Mary J. Blige for the Super Bowl LVI halftime show

    00:14

    Brandy

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing Brandy's music video for "Baby" - directed by Hype Williams

    00:46

    Bobby Brown

    Fatima Robinson on working with Bobby Brown

    01:53

    Blue Ivy Carter

    Fatima Robinson on Blue Ivy Carter's dance solos during Beyoncé's Renaissance World Tour

    02:41

    Dr. Dre

    Fatima Robinson on working with Dr. Dre on a tango-inspired sequence for the music video for "Been There Done That"

    01:50

    Fatima Robinson on appearing in Tupac Shakur's music video for "California Love"

    01:08

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing the halftime show for Super Bowl LVI (Dr. Dre and West Coast hip-hop All-Stars)

    04:27

    Fatima Robinson on working with Dr. Dre for the Super Bowl LVI halftime show

    01:22

    Whitney Houston

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing Whitney Houston's music video for "I'm Every Woman" with Sean Cheesman

    01:52

    Michael Jackson

    Fatima Robinson on her early love of Michael Jackson, and on choreographing his music video for "Remember the Time"

    01:30

    Fatima Robinson on working with John Singleton and Michael Jackson on the music video for "Remember the Time"

    00:53

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing for camera for the "Remember the Time" music video and the sequences she choreographed

    01:49

    Fatima Robinson on teaching Michael Jackson the choreography for the music video for "Remember the Time" and working with him

    02:03

    Fatima Robinson on dancing with Michael Jackson in the music video for "Remember the Time"

    01:23

    Kendrick Lamar

    Fatima Robinson on working with Kendrick Lamar for the Super Bowl LVI halftime show

    00:10

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing Kendrick Lamar's performance at the 2016 Grammys

    02:11

    Lil Baby

    Fatima Robinson on being a producer of the 2021 Grammys and working with Lil Baby on his performance

    01:29

    Lionel C. Martin

    Fatima Robinson on meeting Lionel Martin and on how she became a choreographer

    01:19

    Fatima Robinson on Lionel Martin's directing style

    00:43

    Prince

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing the "Purple Rain" episode of Black-ish, and on working with Prince

    01:27

    Rosie Perez

    Fatima Robinson on Rosie Perez encouraging her to call herself a choreographer

    00:36

    Michael Peters

    Fatima Robinson on her research for choreographing the film Dreamgirls

    01:20

    Fatima Robinson on the value of oral history interviews

    01:18

    Busta Rhymes

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing Busta Rhymes' music video for "Put Your Hands Where My Eyes Could See"

    02:46

    Tupac Shakur

    Fatima Robinson on appearing in Tupac Shakur's music video for "California Love"

    01:08

    John Singleton

    Fatima Robinson on John Singleton making her an extra in his film Boyz N the Hood

    00:23

    Fatima Robinson on John Singleton asking her to choreograph the music video for Michael Jackson's "Remember the Time"

    00:34

    Fatima Robinson on working with John Singleton and Michael Jackson on the music video for "Remember the Time"

    00:53

    Fatima Robinson on John Singleton's storyboards for the music video for "Remember the Time" and on how she developed the choreography for the video

    01:33

    Fatima Robinson on working with John Singleton as the director of the music video for "Remember the Time" -- and on how much of the movement came from John's direction versus her input

    01:00

    Meghan Trainor

    Fatima Robinson on directing music videos for Meghan Trainor, including "All About That Bass"

    02:08

    Will.i.am

    Fatima Robinson on directing the music video for "Hey Mama" and working with Will.i.am

    00:46

    Hype Williams

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing Brandy's music video for "Baby" - directed by Hype Williams -- and on how much time she had to shoot the video

    03:07

    Fatima Robinson on appearing in Tupac Shakur's music video for "California Love"

    01:08

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing Aaliyah's music video for "Rock the Boat" - directed by Hype Williams

    01:40

    Pharrell Williams

    Fatima Robinson on being a creative director/segment producer on The Voice, and on working on several music videos and performances with Pharrell Williams

    04:34

    George C. Wolfe

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing the play Radiant Baby, directed by George C. Wolfe, and how that helped her when she choreographed the film Dreamgirls

    05:15

    Fatima Robinson on choreographing the TV movie Lackawanna Blues

    01:02

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