"I call it 'getting out of the corner' because you’re going to get out and you’re going to get knocked down. You have to have the ability to get back up and come out again. I think perseverance is really the single greatest attribute that you can have as a writer. Even when you have the talent, you’re going to get knocked down a lot, no matter how good you are or how good the project is, and you have to be able to get up and get out of the corner again."

    About This Interview

    In his three-hour interview, Dean Hargrove talks about his early years, and his first television writing job, on the 1961-62 version of The Bob Newhart Show. He recalls working with greats like Bill Dana and Bob Hope, and landing a writing job on The Man From U.N.C.L.E. He discusses writing for The NBC Mystery Movie Wheel, including the series Columbo and McCloud, as well as McCoy, starring Tony Curtis. Hargrove recounts the several series he created and produced with Fred Silverman, including a new series of Perry Mason movies, Matlock, Jake and the Fatman, Diagnosis Murder, and Father Dowling Mysteries. He details creating the shows around and working with Raymond Burr, Tom Bosley, William Conrad, Dick Van Dyke, and Andy Griffith. He speaks of the craft of writing, and his involvement with the Writers Guild of America. Amy Harrington conducted the interview in a joint venture with the Writers Guild Foundation on March 6, 2019 in Brentwood, CA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Dean Hargrove on being nominated for an Emmy Award for The Bob Newhart Show (which aired 1961-62)

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    Dean Hargrove on learning to write for several different genres, and on writing for The Man From U.N.C.L.E.

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    Dean Hargrove on writing for the NBC Mystery Movie wheel series for Columbo and McCloud

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    Dean Hargrove on working with Robert Vaughn as "Napoleon Solo" and David McCallum as "Illya Kuryakin" in The Man From U.N.C.L.E.

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    Chapter 1

    On his early life and influences; on his early interest in movies and television; on writing for Bob Hope

    12:17

    On writing for The Bob Newhart Show (which aired from 1961-62); on being nominated for an Emmy Award for The Bob Newhart Show; on getting into writing feature films

    12:11

    On writing for Bill Dana; on working with producer Roland Kibbee on The Bob Newhart Show; on learning to write for several different genres, and on writing for The Man From U.N.C.L.E.

    14:23

    Chapter 2

    On the importance of setting the tone on The Man From U.N.C.L.E., and on executive producer Norman Felton; on how having multiple show runners impacted The Man From U.N.C.L.E.; on the elements that make a great television character

    11:19

    On the scripts for The Man From U.N.C.L.E.; on the cast of The Man From U.N.C.L.E.; on the legacy of The Man From U.N.C.L.E.

    10:43

    On writing for It Takes a Thief ; on becoming a producer on The Name of the Game; on writing for the NBC Mystery Movie wheel series for Columbo and McCloud

    12:39

    On working with Peter Falk as "Columbo" on Columbo; on his duties as executive producer of Columbo, and on dividing duties with Roland Kibbee on the show; on how working on McCloud differed from working on Columbo

    07:26

    Chapter 3

    On writing and producing McCloud; on writing and producing McCoy starring Tony Curtis; on the feature "The Manchu Eagle Murder Caper Mystery"

    12:59

    On executive producing several Perry Mason movies in the 1980s; on getting Raymond Burr to reprise his role of Perry Mason for the series of television movies; on working with Fred Silverman on producing the Perry Mason movies

    12:46

    On the first Perry Mason movie, Perry Mason Returns; on working with Barbara Hale as "Della Street" on the Perry Mason movies; on William Conrad appearing on Jake and the Fatman and Dick Van Dyke on Diagnosis Murder

    07:21

    On the decision to make the Perry Mason revival movies instead of a regular series; on writing legal dramas like Perry Mason; on the end of the Perry Mason movies, and on the death of Raymond Burr

    02:34

    On producing Matlock, starring Andy Griffith, with Fred Silverman; on his team of writers on Matlock; on the popularity of mystery shows like Matlock

    05:59

    On Matlock starting on NBC and switching networks to ABC; on the legacy of Matlock; on Jack and the Fatman spinning off from Matlock

    04:36

    On creating Father Dowling Mysteries starring Tom Bosley; on juggling five different television shows on the air at the same time; on the older demographics of mystery series

    11:35

    On working with Joyce Burditt on Diagnosis Murder; on working with Dick Van Dyke and his son Barry Van Dyke on Diagnosis Murder; on the longevity of Diagnosis Murder

    06:14

    On the work he did for Sony International; on the craft of writing; on the Writers Guild of America

    19:04

    On the value of oral history projects like The Interviews; on advice to aspiring writers and producers; on career achievements and regrets

    07:30

    On producing and directing the documentary "Tap World"; on how he would like to be remembered

    05:29

    Bob Newhart Show, The (1961-62)

    Dean Hargrove on writing for The Bob Newhart Show

    03:21

    Dean Hargrove on being nominated for an Emmy Award for The Bob Newhart Show

    01:41

    Dean Hargrove on working with producer Roland Kibbee on The Bob Newhart Show

    05:13

    Columbo

    Dean Hargrove on writing for the NBC Mystery Movie wheel series for Columbo (for which he won an Emmy Award) and McCloud

    02:38

    Dean Hargrove on working with Peter Falk as "Columbo" on Columbo

    04:04

    Dean Hargrove on his duties as executive producer of Columbo, and on dividing duties with Roland Kibbee on the show

    02:42

    Diagnosis Murder

    Dean Hargrove on Dick Van Dyke on Diagnosis Murder

    01:48

    Dean Hargrove on working with Joyce Burditt on Diagnosis Murder

    01:56

    Dean Hargrove on working with Dick Van Dyke and his son Barry Van Dyke on Diagnosis Murder

    01:47

    Dean Hargrove on the longevity of Diagnosis Murder

    02:31

    Emmy Awards, The (Primetime and Daytime)

    Dean Hargrove on being nominated for an Emmy for The Bob Newhart Show (which aired 1961-62)

    01:41

    Dean Hargrove on writing for the NBC Mystery Movie wheel series for Columbo (for which he won an Emmy) and McCloud

    02:38

    Father Dowling Mysteries

    Dean Hargrove on creating Father Dowling Mysteries, starring Tom Bosley

    06:38

    It Takes a Thief

    Dean Hargrove on writing for It Takes a Thief

    04:14

    Jake and the Fatman

    Dean Hargrove on William Conrad on appearing on Jake and the Fatman

    02:46

    Dean Hargrove on Jack and the Fatman spinning off from Matlock

    01:39

    Man From U.N.C.L.E., The

    Dean Hargrove on writing for The Man From U.N.C.L.E

    03:44

    Dean Hargrove on the importance of setting the tone on The Man From U.N.C.L.E., and on executive producer Norman Felton

    04:19

    Dean Hargrove on how having multiple show runners impacted The Man From U.N.C.L.E.

    03:29

    Dean Hargrove on the scripts for The Man From U.N.C.L.E., and on Ian Fleming coming up with the "Napoleon Solo" character

    03:44

    Dean Hargrove on working with Leo G. Carroll as "Alexander Waverly" on The Man From U.N.C.L.E.

    00:52

    Dean Hargrove on working with Robert Vaughn as "Napoleon Solo" and David McCallum as "Illya Kuryakin" on The Man From U.N.C.L.E.

    02:38

    Dean Hargrove on the end of The Man From U.N.C.L.E

    01:15

    Dean Hargrove on the legacy of The Man From U.N.C.L.E

    01:31

    Matlock

    Dean Hargrove on producing Matlock, starring Andy Griffith, with Fred Silverman

    02:18

    Dean Hargrove on his team of writers on Matlock

    02:03

    Dean Hargrove on the popularity of mystery shows like Matlock

    01:38

    Dean Hargrove on Matlock starting on NBC and switching networks to ABC

    01:30

    Dean Hargrove on the legacy of Matlock

    01:26

    Dean Hargrove on Jack and the Fatman spinning off from Matlock

    01:39

    McCloud

    Dean Hargrove on writing for the NBC Mystery Movie wheel series for Columbo (for which he won an Emmy Award) and McCloud

    02:38

    Dean Hargrove on how working on McCloud differed from working on Columbo

    00:36

    Dean Hargrove on writing and producing McCloud

    01:03

    McCoy

    Dean Hargrove on writing and producing McCoy, starring Tony Curtis

    07:53

    Dean Hargrove on directing an episode of McCoy and the feature "The Manchu Eagle Murder Caper Mystery"

    04:03

    Name of the Game, The

    Dean Hargrove on working with this brother Phillip Hargrove on The Name of the Game

    00:45

    Dean Hargrove on becoming a producer on The Name of the Game, and on the duties of a producer

    04:58

    Perry Mason (1957-66)

    Dean Hargrove on executive producing several Perry Mason movies in the 1980s

    03:12

    Dean Hargrove on getting Raymond Burr to reprise his role of "Perry Mason" for the series of Perry Mason television movies

    01:59

    Dean Hargrove on working with Fred Silverman producing the Perry Mason movies

    07:35

    Dean Hargrove on the first Perry Mason movie, Perry Mason Returns

    01:08

    Dean Hargrove on working with Barbara Hale as "Della Street" on the Perry Mason movies

    01:37

    Dean Hargrove on the decision to make the Perry Mason revival movies instead of a regular series

    00:48

    Dean Hargrove on writing legal dramas like Perry Mason

    00:38

    Dean Hargrove on the end of the Perry Mason movies, and on the death of Raymond Burr

    01:08

    Advice

    Dean Hargrove on advice to aspiring writers and producers

    02:16

    Creative Influences and Inspiration

    Dean Hargrove on mentors in his career

    00:36

    Emmy Awards

    Dean Hargrove on being nominated for an Emmy for The Bob Newhart Show (which aired 1961-62)

    01:41

    Dean Hargrove on writing for the NBC Mystery Movie wheel series for Columbo (for which he won an Emmy) and McCloud

    02:38

    Pivotal Career Moments

    Dean Hargrove on mentors in his career

    00:36

    Television Industry

    Dean Hargrove on how the industry has changed since he started

    01:25

    Dean Hargrove on advice to aspiring writers and producers

    02:16

    Producers

    Dean Hargrove on juggling five different television shows on the air at the same time

    03:09

    Dean Hargrove on the work he did for Sony International

    06:03

    Dean Hargrove on his producing style

    01:39

    Dean Hargrove on advice to aspiring writers and producers

    02:16

    Writers

    Dean Hargrove on learning to write for several different genres, and on writing for The Man From U.N.C.L.E.

    06:37

    Dean Hargrove on the elements that make a great television character

    03:29

    Dean Hargrove on what he enjoys about writing

    05:46

    Dean Hargrove on his writing process and his routines

    03:14

    Dean Hargrove on advice to aspiring writers and producers

    02:16

    Adventure/Espionage Series

    Dean Hargrove on writing for The Man From U.N.C.L.E

    03:44

    Dean Hargrove on writing for The Man From U.N.C.L.E

    22:02

    Comedy Series

    Dean Hargrove on writing for The Bob Newhart Show (which aired 1961-62)

    05:02

    Cop/Detective/Mystery Series

    Dean Hargrove on writing for It Takes a Thief

    04:15

    Dean Hargrove on writing for the NBC Mystery Movie wheel series for Columbo and McCloud

    10:04

    Dean Hargrove on the older demographics of mystery series

    01:49

    Dean Hargrove on writing and producing McCloud

    01:03

    Dean Hargrove on writing and producing McCoy

    11:46

    Dean Hargrove on executive producing several Perry Mason movies

    22:43

    Legal Dramas

    Dean Hargrove on executive producing several Perry Mason movies

    22:43

    Tom Bosley

    Dean Hargrove on creating Father Dowling Mysteries, starring Tom Bosley

    06:36

    Raymond Burr

    Dean Hargrove on getting Raymond Burr to reprise his role of "Perry Mason" for the series of Perry Mason television movies

    01:59

    Dean Hargrove on the end of the Perry Mason movies, and on the death of Raymond Burr

    01:08

    Leo G. Carroll

    Dean Hargrove on working with Leo G. Carroll as "Alexander Waverly" on The Man From U.N.C.L.E.

    00:51

    William Conrad

    Dean Hargrove on William Conrad on appearing on Jake and the Fatman

    02:46

    Tony Curtis

    Dean Hargrove on writing and producing McCoy, starring Tony Curtis

    07:53

    Bill Dana

    Dean Hargrove on writing for Bill Dana

    02:33

    Peter Falk

    Dean Hargrove on working with Peter Falk as "Columbo" on Columbo

    04:04

    Norman Felton

    Dean Hargrove on The Man From U.N.C.L.E. executive producer Norman Felton

    03:18

    Andy Griffith

    Dean Hargrove on producing Matlock, starring Andy Griffith, with Fred Silverman

    02:16

    Bob Hope

    Dean Hargrove on writing for Bob Hope

    01:53

    Roland Kibbee

    Dean Hargrove on working with producer Roland Kibbee on The Bob Newhart Show (which aired 1961-62)

    05:13

    Dean Hargrove on his duties as executive producer of Columbo, and on dividing duties with Roland Kibbee on the show

    02:42

    David McCallum

    Dean Hargrove on working with Robert Vaughn as "Napoleon Solo" and David McCallum as "Illya Kuryakin" in The Man From U.N.C.L.E.

    02:39

    Bob Newhart

    Dean Hargrove on writing for The Bob Newhart Show (which aired 1961-62)

    03:21

    Dean Hargrove on being nominated for an Emmy Award for The Bob Newhart Show (which aired 1961-62)

    01:41

    Fred Silverman

    Dean Hargrove on working with Fred Silverman producing the Perry Mason movies

    07:35

    Dean Hargrove on producing Matlock, starring Andy Griffith, with Fred Silverman

    02:16

    Dick Van Dyke

    Dean Hargrove on Dick Van Dyke on Diagnosis Murder

    01:48

    Dean Hargrove on working with Dick Van Dyke and his son Barry Van Dyke on Diagnosis Murder

    01:47

    Robert Vaughn

    Dean Hargrove on working with Robert Vaughn as "Napoleon Solo" and David McCallum as "Illya Kuryakin" in The Man From U.N.C.L.E.

    02:38

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