"One of the things I was trying to avoid was dignity, that terrible term that you're either a buffoon if you're black or you play it with dignity. I hated that idea because I knew that dignity did not make people laugh. I wanted desperately to make people laugh. So I found a way to say what I was going to say in the script without demeaning black people or myself. At the same time, I found a way to do comedy that I don't think many blacks had found before that -- that you could be yourself and make people laugh."

    About This Interview

    In his three-hour interview, Robert Guillaume (1927-2017) discusses his lengthy career in television, which began with guest appearances on the series Julia, All in the Family, and The Jeffersons. He describes originating the character of "Benson DuBois" in the series Soap and continuing to play the role in the spin-off, Benson (1979-86). He speaks about avoiding stereotypes in his portrayal of "Benson" and the evolution of the character from Soap to Benson. He details several other television performances, including his work in The Robert Guillaume Show (1989), and discusses his lengthy stage career, which included replacing Michael Crawford in Broadway's The Phantom of the Opera. Guillaume also speaks of his then-current role in the ABC sitcom Sports Night, which premiered in 1998, and the stroke that sidelined him during the series. Meryl Marshall conducted the interview on March 24, 1999 in Encino, CA.

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    Chapter 1

    On his childhood and early influences; on going to Catholic School; on joining the Army in 1945; on his college years and transitioning from a business to music major; on the Aspen Music Festival; on theater work in Colorado

    13:29

    On moving to New York to do theater; on his first television appearance, on Julia; on the difficulty of black actors getting on television

    14:06

    Chapter 2

    On his first television role on Julia; on appearing on Marcus Welby, M.D., All in the Family, and on The Jeffersons

    12:37

    On getting the role of "Benson" on Soap and how he played his character; on audience response to "Benson"

    16:58

    Chapter 3

    On fellow cast members on Soap; on the controversy the series caused; on working with creator Susan Harris; on his favorite storyline

    12:45

    On starring in Benson, the spin-off of Soap; on the cast and chemistry on Soap; on his favorite episodes and directors

    16:02

    Chapter 4

    On the concept of Benson; on his contract dispute; on his approach to playing the character; on the end of the series

    16:35

    On producing a television movie; on producing and making guest appearances; on producing and starring in The Robert Guillaume Show; on episodes airing out of order

    09:23

    Chapter 5

    On working with network executives; on "Phantom of the Opera"; on short-lived series

    09:07

    On his personal life; on forming a publishing company with his second wife

    06:18

    Robert Guillaume on co-starring in Sports Night; on situation comedies; on the importance of a good script;  on the work of which he's proudest; on influential people in his career and the aftermath of his stroke

    12:44

    Chapter 6

    On African-Americans behind and in front of the camera; on how he would like to be remembered; on colleagues 

    15:49

    On playing "Sportin' Life" on Porgy and Bess

    02:49

    All in the Family

    Robert Guillaume on appearing on All in the Family in the episode "Chain Letter" (airdate: October 20, 1975)

    02:37

    Benson

    Robert Guillaume on starring in Benson

    16:02

    Robert Guillaume on the concept of Benson; his contract dispute; his approach to playing the character; the end of the series

    16:35

    Robert Guillaume on the end of Benson

    02:07

    Benson: "The President's Double"

    Robert Guillaume on his favorite episode of Benson - "The President's Double"

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    Robert Guillaume on his favorite episode of Benson - "The President's Double"

    00:57

    Jeffersons, The

    Robert Guillaume on appearing on The Jeffersons in the episode "George Won't Talk" (airdate: November 8, 1975)

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    Julia (1968-71)

    Robert Guillaume on his first television appearance, on Julia

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    Robert Guillaume on his first television role on Julia

    00:46

    Marcus Welby, M.D.

    Robert Guillaume on appearing on Marcus Welby, M.D.  in the episode "The Soft Phrase of Peace" (airdate: January 6, 1970)

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    Robert Guillaume Show, The

    Robert Guillaume on producing and starring in The Robert Guillaume Show

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    Soap

    Robert Guillaume on being cast on Soap  and the controversy surrounding the show

    04:05

    Robert Guillaume on his pursuit to be funny without being a buffoon or playing a part with "dignity" on Soap

    03:16

    Robert Guillaume on not emphasizing racial issues directly with his character "Benson" on Soap; but finding ways to make a statement

    03:52

    Robert Guillaume on fellow cast members on Soap; on the controversy the series caused; on working with creator Susan Harris

    10:26

    Robert Guillaume on his favorite storyline on Soap

    01:44

    Sports Night

    Robert Guillaume on co-starring in Sports Night

    07:53

    Characters & Catchphrases

    Robert Guillaume on changes to the character of "Benson" when transitioning from Soap to Benson

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    Robert Guillaume on playing "Benson" in a way in which things would be funny to him and not just have "Benson" be a buffoon

    03:41

    Robert Guillaume on his character in Sports Night

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    Emmy Awards

    Robert Guillaume on winning two Emmy awards

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    Underrepresented Voices

    Robert Guillaume on the difficulty of black actors getting on television

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    Robert Guillaume on his pursuit to be funny without being a buffoon or playing a part with "dignity" on Soap

    03:16

    Robert Guillaume on not emphasizing racial issues directly with his character "Benson" on Soap; but finding ways to make a statement his first television role on Julia

    03:52

    Robert Guillaume on audience response to his character "Benson" on Soap

    01:49

    Robert Guillaume on how the show Benson and the main character were categorized

    04:59

    Robert Guillaume on other African-American actors on television in the late 1970s and early 1980s

    00:51

    Robert Guillaume on multiculturalism 

    01:19

    Actor

    Robert Guillaume on the difference between acting for film or television

    00:51

    Robert Guilluame on the challenge of waiting for the punchline during a tense scene on All in the Family

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    Robert Guillaume on his pursuit to be funny without being a buffoon or playing a part with "dignity" on Soap

    03:16

    Robert Guillaume on not emphasizing racial issues directly with his character "Benson" on Soap; but finding ways to make a statement

    03:52

    Comedy Series

    Robert Guillaume on starring in Benson

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    Robert Guillaume on the concept of Benson; his contract dispute; his approach to playing the character; the end of the series

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    Robert Guillaume on co-starring in Sports Night

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    Rene Auberjonois

    Robert Guillaume on Rene Auberjonois

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    Diahann Carroll

    Robert Guillaume on his first television appearance, on Julia

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    Marcy Carsey

    Robert Guillaume on Marcy Carsey

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    Gary Coleman

    Robert Guillaume on Gary Coleman

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    Billy Crystal

    Robert Guillaume on Billy Crystal

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    Cathryn Damon

    Robert Guillaume on fellow cast members on Soap

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    Redd Foxx

    Robert Guillaume on actor Redd Foxx

    01:12

    Whoopi Goldberg

    Robert Guillaume on offering encouraging words to Whoopi Goldberg

    00:52

    Susan Harris

    Robert Guillaume on working with Soap creator Susan Harris

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    Robert Guillaume on writer Susan Harris

    00:21

    Katherine Helmond

    Robert Guillaume on working with actress Katherine Helmond, "Jessica" on Soap

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    Robert Guillaume on fellow cast members on Soap

    00:33

    Robert Guillaume on Katherine Helmond

    00:53

    Sherman Hemsley

    Robert Guillaume on actor Sherman Hemsley

    00:56

    Bob Hope

    Robert Guillaume on Bob Hope

    00:14

    Norman Lear

    Robert Guillaume on working with Norman Lear

    00:29

    Hal Linden

    Robert Guillaume on Hal Linden

    00:02

    Meryl Marshall

    Robert Guillaume on his wife partnering with HBO executive Meryl Marshall

    00:44

    James Noble

    Robert Guillaume on James Noble

    00:22

    Sy Rosen

    Robert Guillaume on Sy Rosen

    00:06

    Jay Sandrich

    Robert Guillaume on working with director Jay Sandrich

    02:33

    Isabel Sanford

    Robert Guillaume on Isabel Sanford

    00:20

    Thomas Schlamme

    Robert Guillaume on the cast and crew of Sports Night

    00:31

    Jerry Seinfeld

    Robert Guillaume on Jerry Seinfeld appearing on Benson

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    Fred Silverman

    Robert Guillaume on Fred Silverman

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    Aaron Sorkin

    Robert Guillaume on co-starring in creator Aaron Sorkin's Sports Night

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    Danny Thomas

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    Tony Thomas

    Robert Guillaume on Tony and Danny Thomas

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