About
"A lot of people scream when I say this, but I really do believe that in television, the most important element probably is the casting. If the scripts are no good and the production's no good, the casting of the thing will flop. But if you had to line up the elements, the script, the producer, the costumes, the music, I think the casting is it."
In his four-hour interview, Perry Lafferty (1917-2005) describes directing shows including The Victor Borge Show, Robert Montgomery Presents, and U.S. Steel Hour. He talks about producing shows including Your Hit Parade, The Andy Williams Show, and The Danny Kaye Show. He also discusses becoming a top programming executive for CBS and then NBC. He details interacting with the creative community as an executive, and later leaving NBC to become a producer. He concludes by discussing several of the luminaries he worked with during his career. Morrie Gelman conducted the interview on December 4, 1997 in Brentwood, CA.
Highlights

Perry Lafferty on directing Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge along with Buzz Kulik

Perry Lafferty on directing The Twilight Zone and working with producer Rod Serling

Perry Lafferty on James Cagney appearing on Robert Montgomery Presents and on Cagney forgetting his lines

Perry Lafferty on programming All in the Family on CBS

Perry Lafferty on producing Your Hit Parade, directed by Norman Jewison

Perry Lafferty on producing Person to Person, hosted first by Edward R. Murrow and later by Charles Collingwood
Full Interview
Chapter 1
On his early life and influences; on what he wanted to do when he grew up as a child; on attending Yale University to study music
On his orchestra playing on radio during his time at Yale; on going to work for Norman Corwin at CBS Radio; on being an assistant director for CBS Radio, and on eventually becoming a director
Chapter 2
On his activities during World War II, including working for Armed Forces Radio; on returning to CBS Radio after World War II; on when he first become aware of television, and on his career going into television
On his first television job directing Celebrity Time; on directing Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge along with Buzz Kulik
Chapter 3
On directing The Victor Borge Show; on the writing staff of Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge and other early shows he worked on; on Art Carney co-starring on The Victor Borge Show
On producing The Imogene Coca Show and directing The Arthur Murray Party; on working with Imogene Coca on The Imogene Coca Show, and on what makes a performer a "top banana"; on directing Name That Tune
On making the transition into directing drama with Tales of Tomorrow and Robert Montgomery Presents
Chapter 4
On James Cagney appearing on Robert Montgomery Presents and on Cagney forgetting his lines; on The Robert Montgomery Presents episodes "Good Friday, 1865," dealing with the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, and "One Minute to Ditch"; on the budget and sponsors of the show, and on working the various actors who appeared on it
On producing Your Hit Parade, directed by Norman Jewison; on CBS Programmer Michael Dann being his mentor; on working with Arthur Godfrey
Chapter 5
On working the 1952 political conventions, and subsequent conventions; on producing The Big Show
On producing Person to Person, hosted first by Edward R. Murrow and later by Charles Collingwood; on having John F. Kennedy and Richard M. Nixon on Person to Person
On producing The Aquanauts aka Malibu Run; on the difference between working in live television and working in prerecorded or filmed television, and on the live episode of ER; on the Golden Age of Television
Chapter 6
On directing The Twilight Zone and working with producer Rod Serling; on producing The Danny Kaye Show; on the format of The Danny Kaye Show and on The Judy Garland Show
On the end of The Danny Kaye Show; on making the transition from producer to executive when he became a vice president at CBS; on some of the hit shows during his tenure at CBS, including The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour
Chapter 7
On James T. Aubrey and William S. Paley; on programming All in the Family on CBS; on Robert D. Wood, CBS's purge of rural programming in the early 1970s, and dealing with various CBS presidents
On the significant shows he programmed at CBS, including The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, M*A*S*H, All in the Family, and The Mary Tyler Moore Show; on Grant Tinker and MTM Productions; on leaving CBS for Filmways
On producing The Mary Tyler Moore Comedy Hour; on being in charge of movies and miniseries at NBC in the 1980s, and on Brandon Tartikoff turning around the fortunes of NBC; on the importance of made-for-television movies and miniseries on a network schedule
Chapter 8
on the importance of a programming executive interacting with the creative community, and executives working with producers; on leaving NBC to become a producer; on unusual pitches he heard as an executive
On casting being the most important element to a hit television series; on career regrets; on how television audiences have changed since he began his career, and on the then-future of television
On how he would like to be remembered; on various people he worked with in his career
Chapter 9
On Hy Averback, E. Duke Vincent, Larry Gelbart, Alan Alda, and Beatrice Arthur
On b-roll pictures from his career- 1952 conventions; on the set of Robert Montgomery Presents; on the set of Robert Montgomery Presents; with Michael Dann; with Norman Jewison; directing Arthur Godfrey; with Carol Burnett; with Jack Lord and his wife; with James Arness and Carol Burnett; with Tom Smothers and Don Rickles
Shows
All in the Family
Perry Lafferty on programming All in the Family on CBS
Aquanauts, The aka Malibu Run
Perry Lafferty on producing The Aquanauts aka Malibu Run
Arthur Murray Party, The
Perry Lafferty on directing The Arthur Murray Party
Celebrity Time
Perry Lafferty on his first television job, directing Celebrity Time
Danny Kaye Show, The
Perry Lafferty on producing The Danny Kaye Show
Perry Lafferty on the format of The Danny Kaye Show and on The Judy Garland Show
Perry Lafferty on the end of The Danny Kaye Show
Imogene Coca Show, The
Perry Lafferty on producing The Imogene Coca Show
Perry Lafferty on working with Imogene Coca on The Imogene Coca Show, and on what makes a performer a "top banana"
Judy Garland Show, The
Perry Lafferty on the format of The Danny Kaye Show and on The Judy Garland Show
Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge
Perry Lafferty on directing Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge along with Buzz Kulik
Perry Lafferty on the writing staff of Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge and other early shows he worked on
Mary Tyler Moore Comedy Hour
Perry Lafferty on producing The Mary Tyler Moore Comedy Hour
Mary Tyler Moore Show, The
Perry Lafferty on the significant shows he programmed at CBS, including The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, M*A*S*H, All in the Family, and The Mary Tyler Moore Show
Name That Tune
Perry Lafferty on directing Name That Tune
Person to Person
Perry Lafferty on producing Person to Person, hosted first by Edward R. Murrow and later by Charles Collingwood
Perry Lafferty on having John F. Kennedy and Richard M. Nixon on Person to Person
Robert Montgomery Presents
Perry Lafferty on making the transition into directing drama with Tales of Tomorrow and Robert Montgomery Presents
Perry Lafferty on James Cagney appearing on Robert Montgomery Presents and on Cagney forgetting his lines
Perry Lafferty on The Robert Montgomery Presents episodes "Good Friday, 1865," dealing with the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, and "One Minute to Ditch"
Perry Lafferty on the budget and sponsors of Robert Montgomery Presents, and on a novel he wrote later in his career
Perry Lafferty on working with Norman Felton on Robert Montgomery Presents, and on some of the actors who appeared on the show
Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, The
Perry Lafferty on some of the hit shows during his tenure at CBS, including The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour
Tales of Tomorrow
Perry Lafferty on making the transition into directing drama with Tales of Tomorrow and Robert Montgomery Presents
Twilight Zone, The
Perry Lafferty on directing The Twilight Zone and working with producer Rod Serling
Victor Borge Show, The
Perry Lafferty on directing The Victor Borge Show
Perry Lafferty on Art Carney co-starring on The Victor Borge Show
Your Hit Parade
Perry Lafferty on producing Your Hit Parade, directed by Norman Jewison
Topics
Bloopers
Perry Lafferty on James Cagney appearing on Robert Montgomery Presents and on Cagney forgetting his lines
Creative Influences and Inspiration
Perry Lafferty on CBS programmer Michael Dann being his mentor
Historic Events and Social Change
Perry Lafferty on his activities during World War II, including working for Armed Forces Radio
John F. Kennedy
Perry Lafferty on on having John F. Kennedy and Richard M. Nixon on Person to Person
Pivotal Career Moments
Perry Lafferty on CBS programmer Michael Dann being his mentor
Richard M. Nixon
Perry Lafferty on on having John F. Kennedy and Richard M. Nixon on Person to Person
Television and the Presidency
Perry Lafferty on on having John F. Kennedy and Richard M. Nixon on Person to Person
Perry Lafferty on working the 1952 political conventions, and subsequent conventions
Television Industry
Perry Lafferty on working the 1952 political conventions, and subsequent conventions
Perry Lafferty on making the transition from producer to executive when he became a vice president at CBS
Perry Lafferty on Robert D. Wood, CBS's purge of rural programming in the early 1970s, and line of succession of CBS Presidents
Perry Lafferty on Grant Tinker and MTM Productions
Perry Lafferty on leaving CBS for Filmways
Perry Lafferty on being in charge of movies and miniseries at NBC in the 1980s, and on Brandon Tartikoff turning around the fortunes of NBC
Perry Lafferty on leaving NBC to become a producer
Perry Lafferty on how television audiences have changed since he began his career, and on the then-future of television
TV's Golden Age (1940s & '50s)
Perry Lafferty on the Golden Age of Television
War
Perry Lafferty on his activities during World War II, including working for Armed Forces Radio
World War II
Perry Lafferty on his activities during World War II, including working for Armed Forces Radio
Professions
Executives
Perry Lafferty on the importance of scheduling to programming a network
Perry Lafferty on the significant shows he programmed at CBS, including The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, M*A*S*H, All in the Family, and The Mary Tyler Moore Show
Perry Lafferty on the importance of made-for-television movies and miniseries on a network schedule
Perry Lafferty on the importance of a programming executive interacting with the creative community, and executives working with producers
Perry Lafferty on unusual pitches he heard as an executive
Perry Lafferty on casting being the most important element to a hit television series
Producers
Perry Lafferty on the difference between working in live television and working in prerecorded or filmed television, and on the live episode of ER
Television Executive
Perry Lafferty on the importance of scheduling to programming a network
Perry Lafferty on the significant shows he programmed at CBS, including The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, M*A*S*H, All in the Family, and The Mary Tyler Moore Show
Perry Lafferty on the importance of made-for-television movies and miniseries on a network schedule
Perry Lafferty on the importance of a programming executive interacting with the creative community, and executives working with producers
Perry Lafferty on unusual pitches he heard as an executive
Perry Lafferty on casting being the most important element to a hit television series
Genres
Adventure/Espionage Series
Perry Lafferty on producing The Aquanauts aka Malibu Run
Classic Anthology Series
Perry Lafferty on making the transition into directing drama with Tales of Tomorrow and Robert Montgomery Presents
Perry Lafferty on directing Robert Montgomery Presents
Comedy Series
Perry Lafferty on programming All in the Family on CBS
Game Shows
Perry Lafferty on his first television job, directing Celebrity Time
Perry Lafferty on directing Name That Tune
Music Shows & Variety Shows/Specials
Perry Lafferty on directing Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge along with Buzz Kulik
Perry Lafferty on directing The Victor Borge Show and Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge
Perry Lafferty on producing The Imogene Coca Show, and on directing The Arthur Murray Party
Perry Lafferty on producing Your Hit Parade, directed by Norman Jewison
Perry Lafferty on producing The Big Show
Perry Lafferty on producing The Mary Tyler Moore Comedy Hour
News and Documentary
Perry Lafferty on producing Person to Person
Sci-Fi/Supernatural Series
Perry Lafferty on making the transition into directing drama with Tales of Tomorrow and Robert Montgomery Presents
People
Alan Alda
Perry Lafferty on Alan Alda
Beatrice Arthur
Perry Lafferty on Beatrice Arthur
James T. Aubrey
Perry Lafferty on James T. Aubrey and William S. Paley
Tallulah Bankhead
Perry Lafferty on producing a special for Andy Williams, and on producing The Big Party with Tallulah Bankhead
Victor Borge
Perry Lafferty on directing The Victor Borge Show
James L. Brooks
Perry Lafferty on James L. Brooks
Abe Burrows
Perry Lafferty on producing a special for Andy Williams, and on producing The Big Party with Tallulah Bankhead
James Cagney
Perry Lafferty on James Cagney appearing on Robert Montgomery Presents and on Cagney forgetting his lines
Imogene Coca
Perry Lafferty on working with Imogene Coca on The Imogene Coca Show, and on what makes a performer a "top banana"
Charles Collingwood
Perry Lafferty on producing Person to Person, first hosted by Edward R. Murrow and later by Charles Collingwood
Norman Corwin
Perry Lafferty on going to work for Norman Corwin at CBS Radio
Michael Dann
Perry Lafferty on CBS programmer Michael Dann being his mentor
Judy Garland
Perry Lafferty on the format of The Danny Kaye Show and on The Judy Garland Show
Larry Gelbart
Perry Lafferty on Larry Gelbart
Arthur Godfrey
Perry Lafferty on working with Arthur Godfrey
Valerie Harper
Perry Lafferty on Valerie Harper
Norman Jewison
Perry Lafferty on producing Your Hit Parade, directed by Norman Jewison
Danny Kaye
Perry Lafferty on producing The Danny Kaye Show
Perry Lafferty on the format of The Danny Kaye Show and on The Judy Garland Show
Perry Lafferty on the end of The Danny Kaye Show
John F. Kennedy
Perry Lafferty on on having John F. Kennedy and Richard M. Nixon on Person to Person
Buzz Kulik
Perry Lafferty on directing Kay Kyser's Kollege of Musical Knowledge along with Buzz Kulik
Cloris Leachman
Perry Lafferty on Cloris Leachman
Norman Lear
Perry Lafferty on Norman Lear
Jack Lord
Perry Lafferty on Jack Lord
Robert Montgomery
Perry Lafferty on making the transition into directing drama with Tales of Tomorrow and Robert Montgomery Presents
Perry Lafferty on working with Norman Felton on Robert Montgomery Presents, and on some of the actors who appeared on the show
Mary Tyler Moore
Perry Lafferty on Mary Tyler Moore
Edward R. Murrow
Perry Lafferty on producing Person to Person, first hosted by Edward R. Murrow and later by Charles Collingwood
Richard M. Nixon
Perry Lafferty on on having John F. Kennedy and Richard M. Nixon on Person to Person
William S. Paley
Perry Lafferty on James T. Aubrey and William S. Paley
John Rich
Perry Lafferty on John Rich
Sherwood Schwartz
Perry Lafferty on Sherwood Schwartz
Rod Serling
Perry Lafferty on directing The Twilight Zone and working with producer Rod Serling
Fred Silverman
Perry Lafferty on Fred Silverman
Grant Tinker
Perry Lafferty on Grant Tinker and MTM Productions
E. Duke Vincent
Perry Lafferty on E. Duke Vincent
Sylvester L. "Pat" Weaver
Perry Lafferty on Sylvester L. Weaver
Andy Williams
Perry Lafferty on producing a special for Andy Williams, and on producing The Big Party with Tallulah Bankhead
Robert D. Wood
Perry Lafferty on Robert D. Wood, CBS's purge of rural programming in the early 1970s, and dealing with the line of succession of CBS Presidents