"I have never ruled against a producer in my life, ever, on anything. Because I learned very early that for the one time you're right, it will not be permissible. In the long run, you have to protect the freedom of a producer who has a record of doing what's tasteful."

    About This Interview

    In his three-and-a-half-hour interview, Michael Dann (1921-2016) discusses his start in television as part of the publicity department at NBC. He describes his time with NBC News and his move to CBS, where he worked his way up the ranks to become head of programming for CBS. Dann details his experiences overseeing The Defenders, Gilligan's Island, 60 Minutes, and The Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, among others, and shares his thoughts on some of his colleagues at both NBC and CBS. He also touches on his work since leaving CBS - consulting for Children's Television Workshop, Warner Communications, and the BBC. Don West conducted the interview on October 26, 1998 in New York, NY.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Chapter 1

    On his childhood and early influences; on ushering in theaters in high school and working as an army correspondent during World War II

    08:53

    On how the Great Depression affected his family; on listening to radio in the 1930s and 1940s; on his start in radio comedy writing for Jack Albertson

    08:53

    On his start in television in the NBC press department and then NBC News in 1948

    04:15

    Chapter 2

    On his radio work in New York; on the early days of television at NBC

    12:50

    On moving from the press department to the news department in 1949; on early television programming at NBC

    09:20

    On Pat Weaver's reorganization of NBC and the beginning of participating sponsorship

    06:18

    Chapter 3

    On The Chicago School of Television; on early dramas and variety shows - Texaco Star Theater

    14:31

    On Pat Weaver's programming innovations; on early televison anthology programs and the need to shoot variety programs in color

    13:41

    Chapter 4

    On moving to CBS to become Vice President of New York programs; on Your Hit Parade, The Defenders and other CBS programs he approved

    59:58

    On working with CBS' Jim Aubrey, Frank Stanton, and William Paley

    12:07

    Chapter 5

    On his involvement with the show Medic; on the raciness permitted then and now on television

    15:29

    On his process for scheduling prime time television at CBS; on his crisis decisions at CBS

    13:04

    Chapter 6

    On getting The Defenders on the air

    06:39

    On The Hollywood Blacklist; on leaving CBS; on the cable industry and evolving technology

    12:15

    On his reflections on working in the industry; on the future of television

    08:37

    Chapter 7

    On his thoughts on people with whom he's worked; on today's most talented producers

    17:57

    On the future of television

    00:52

    Bewitched

    Michael Dann on how he lost Bewitched

    02:58

    Born Free

    Michael Dann on Fred Silverman's scheduling advice to promote Born Free as a children's show

    01:30

    CBS Playhouse

    Michael Dann on his involvement with CBS Playhouse

    01:30

    Colgate Comedy Hour, The

    Michael Dann on producing The Colgate Comedy Hour

    03:41

    Death of a Salesman

    Michael Dann on his involvement with Death of a Salesman

    01:20

    Defenders, The

    Michael Dann on his involvement with The Defenders

    02:23

    Michael Dann on Herbert Brodkin not being censored on The Defenders

    00:33

    Michael Dann on getting The Defenders on the air

    06:33

    Dick Van Dyke Show, The

    Michael Dann on wanting to air an episode of The Dick Van Dyke Show in which the son walks in on his parents making love

    03:12

    Ding Dong School

    Michael Dann on how important The Chicago School of Television was to early television

    02:01

    Garroway at Large

    Michael Dann on how important The Chicago School of Television was to early television

    02:01

    Home Show, The

    Michael Dann on Pat Weaver and the creation of Today, The Home Show, and The Tonight Show

    03:17

    Jack Carter Show, The

    Michael Dann on Sylvester L. "Pat" Weaver's Saturday night philosophy of television

    03:41

    Kukla, Fran & Ollie

    Michael Dann on how important The Chicago School of Television was to early television

    02:01

    Mary Tyler Moore Show, The

    Michael Dann on saying that Mary Richards could not be divorced on The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    03:12

    Medic

    Michael Dann on his involvement with Medic, the first series to show the birth of a baby

    04:11

    Nurses, The

    Michael Dann on defending producers and voting in favor of a scene many questioned on The Nurses

    00:59

    Philco-Goodyear Television Playhouse

    Michael Dann on production of Philco-Goodyear Television Playhouse

    01:10

    Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour, The

    Michael Dann on taking The Smothers Brothers' Comedy Hour off the air

    02:31

    Studs' Place

    Michael Dann on how important The Chicago School of Television was to early television

    02:01

    Texaco Star Theater

    Michael Dann on Milton Berle's humor

    00:39

    Michael Dann on Milton Berle and Texaco Star Theater

    02:55

    Michael Dann on Milton Berle and the cancellation of Texaco Star Theater

    00:57

    Today

    Michael Dann on station managers not believing people would get up early enough to watch Today

    00:30

    Michael Dann on Pat Weaver and the creation of Today, The Home Show, and The Tonight Show

    03:17

    Tonight

    Michael Dann on Pat Weaver and the creation of Today, The Home Show, and The Tonight Show

    03:17

    Your Hit Parade

    Michael Dann on revamping Your Hit Parade

    06:58

    Your Show of Shows

    Michael Dann on early television variety shows

    01:44

    Michael Dann on Sylvester L. "Pat" Weaver's Saturday night philosophy of television

    02:50

    Censorship / Standards & Practices

    Michael Dann on being ordered by Program Practices to intervene with The Smothers Brothers

    01:48

    Michael Dann on taking The Smothers Brothers' Comedy Hour off the air

    02:31

    Michael Dann on Herbert Brodkin not being censored on The Defenders

    00:33

    Hollywood Blacklist

    Michael Dann on The Hollywood Blacklist

    02:00

    Technological Innovation

    Michael Dann on the coming of digital programming and sets

    01:04

    Michael Dann on David Sarnoff's desire to sell color television sets and the importance of shooting variety shows in color

    01:56

    Michael Dann on the cable industry and evolving technology

    07:36

    Michael Dann on the prospect of digital cable

    00:20

    Executives

    Michael Dann on his role as CBS Vice President of New York programs

    04:24

    Michael Dann on his process for scheduling prime time television at CBS

    09:43

    Michael Dann on the high point of his career - working with Pat Weaver

    01:29

    Drama Series

    Michael Dann on getting The Defenders on the air

    06:33

    Music Shows & Variety Shows/Specials

    Michael Dann on revamping Your Hit Parade

    06:58

    Michael Dann on Milton Berle and Texaco Star Theater

    02:55

    Michael Dann on taking The Smothers Brothers' Comedy Hour off the air

    02:31

    News and Documentary

    Mike Dann on his start in NBC News

    04:15

    Jack Albertson

    Mike Dann on his start as a comedy writer for Jack Albertson

    02:13

    James T. Aubrey

    Michael Dann on his opinion of Jim Aubrey

    03:58

    Michael Dann on CBS' Frank Stanton and William Paley and the firing of Jim Aubrey

    01:49

    Michael Dann on Jim Aubrey not liking The Defenders

    06:33

    Milton Berle

    Michael Dann on Milton Berle's humor

    00:39

    Michael Dann on early television variety shows

    02:42

    Michael Dann on Milton Berle and Texaco Star Theater

    02:55

    Michael Dann on Milton Berle and the cancellation of Texaco Star Theater

    00:57

    Herbert Brodkin

    Michael Dann on Herbert Brodkin not being censored on The Defenders

    00:11

    Michael Dann on The Defenders' producer Herbert Brodkin

    06:33

    Carol Burnett

    Michael Dann on Carol Burnett

    00:36

    Sid Caesar

    Michael Dann on Sid Caesar

    00:15

    Joseph Cates

    Michael Dann on Joseph Cates

    00:27

    Fred Coe

    Michael Dann on Fred Coe's eye for quality programming

    00:36

    Michael Dann on working with Fred Coe on Philco Goodyear Television Playhouse and thoughts on the pioneers of anthology drama - Tony Miner and Martin Manulis

    03:14

    Michael Dann on Fred Coe

    00:54

    Joan Ganz Cooney

    Michael Dann on Joan Ganz Cooney

    00:44

    Norman Felton

    Michael Dann on producers Norman Felton and Perry Lafferty

    01:18

    Fred Friendly

    Michael Dann on Fred Friendly

    03:58

    Peter Gennaro

    Michael Dann on Peter Gennaro, choreographer of Your Hit Parade

    00:23

    Jackie Gleason

    Michael Dann on Jackie Gleason

    00:39

    Arthur Godfrey

    Michael Dann on simulcasting early radio broadcasts for television and Arthur Godfrey's early success on CBS Television

    01:08

    Leonard H. Goldenson

    Michael Dann on Leonard Goldenson embracing cable

    00:25

    Norman Jewison

    Michael Dann on wanting Norman Jewison to direct Your Hit Parade

    01:53

    Perry Lafferty

    Michael Dann on wanting Perry Lafferty to revamp Your Hit Parade

    06:58

    Michael Dann on producers Norman Felton and Perry Lafferty

    01:18

    Sheldon Leonard

    Michael Dann on Sheldon Leonard

    00:48

    Max Liebman

    Michael Dann on congratulating Max Liebman after every show to keep morale up

    00:56

    Martin Manulis

    Michael Dann on working with Fred Coe on Philco Goodyear Television Playhouse and thoughts on the pioneers of anthology drama - Tony Miner and Martin Manulis

    03:14

    Worthington Miner

    Michael Dann on working with Fred Coe on Philco Goodyear Television Playhouse and thoughts on the pioneers of anthology drama - Tony Miner and Martin Manulis

    03:24

    Robert Montgomery

    Michael Dann on Pat Weaver discovering Robert Montgomery

    01:18

    Elizabeth Montgomery

    Michael Dann on how he lost Bewitched

    02:58

    Mary Tyler Moore

    Michael Dann on saying that Mary Richards could not be divorced on The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    03:12

    Mike Nichols

    Michael Dann on Mike Nichols

    00:24

    William S. Paley

    Michael Dann on CBS founder William S. Paley

    00:38

    Michael Dann on CBS' Frank Stanton and William Paley and the firing of Jim Aubrey

    02:30

    Michael Dann on William S. Paley's knack for television programming and his management style

    04:26

    Michael Dann on David Sarnoff's desire to sell color television sets and the importance of shooting variety shows in color; on William Paley adopting color

    01:56

    Michael Dann on William S. Paley's thoughts on The Defenders

    03:03

    Carl Reiner

    Michael Dann on Carl Reiner

    00:39

    David Sarnoff

    Michael Dann on David Sarnoff giving him a television set and an allowance to hold television parties

    05:46

    Michael Dann on Pat Weaver's reorganization of NBC and David Sarnoff's vision

    02:09

    Michael Dann on David Sarnoff firing Sylvester L. "Pat" Weaver

    00:32

    Michael Dann on David Sarnoff's desire to sell color television sets and the importance of shooting variety shows in color

    01:56

    Sherwood Schwartz

    Michael Dann on Sherwood Schwartz

    00:31

    Irwin Segelstein

    Michael Dann on Irwin Segelstein

    01:20

    Fred Silverman

    Michael Dann on Fred Silverman's scheduling advice to promote Born Free as a children's show

    01:30

    Michael Dann on Fred Silverman

    01:51

    Gary Smith

    Michael Dann on Gary Smith, designer of Your Hit Parade

    00:17

    Dick Smothers

    Michael Dann on taking The Smothers Brothers' Comedy Hour  off the air

    02:31

    Tom Smothers

    Michael Dann on taking The Smothers Brothers' Comedy Hour off the air

    02:31

    Michael Dann on Tom Smothers reaction to getting fired and making it political

    00:54

    Frank Stanton

    Michael Dann on CBS' Frank Stanton and William Paley and the firing of Jim Aubrey

    02:30

    Brandon Stoddard

    Michael Dann on Brandon Stoddard

    00:33

    Ed Sullivan

    Michael Dann on early television variety shows

    02:42

    Michael Dann on Ed Sullivan

    00:09

    David Susskind

    Michael Dann on David Susskind's 

    00:34

    Jessica Tandy

    Michael Dann on Jim Aubrey not liking Jessica Tandy as the wife in The Defenders

    00:22

    Brandon Tartikoff

    Michael Dann on Brandon Tartikoff

    00:16

    Grant Tinker

    Michael Dann on Grant Tinker

    00:35

    Sylvester L. "Pat" Weaver

    Michael Dann on Pat Weaver's reorganization of NBC and the beginning of participating sponsorship

    05:46

    Michael Dann on working with Sylvester L. "Pat" Weaver

    03:14

    Michael Dann on working with Sylvester L. "Pat" Weaver

    04:39

    Michael Dann on Sylvester L. "Pat" Weaver's Saturday night philosophy of television

    02:50

    Michael Dann on the high point of his career - working with Pat Weaver

    01:29

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