"I tried to show the dirt in the scenes of Roots... to make you smell the dirt, to make you realize that the place was dirty... it's all about the earth and all about the dirt on the earth and it is an innate part of us. If we pay attention to it, there's a picture there."

    About This Interview

    In his over three-hour interview, Joseph M. Wilcots (1939-2009) speaks about his interest in photography as a teenager and his filmmaking experiences while serving in the Navy. He describes his work at the Westheimer Company, in particular the creative work done for the special effects on the original Star Trek series. He relates how he became the first Black member of the cinematographers union and identified the slow shift in adding other Black members over the years. Wilcots talks about his work in independent filmmaking and reminisces about some of the people he worked with, including director Gordon Parks and cinematographer Robert Surtees. He speaks in great detail about the miniseries Roots and Roots: The Next Generations, for which he served as director of photography. He recalls meeting and working with Alex Haley, talks of working with actor Marlon Brando, and notes the impact of Roots and what the miniseries meant to him. He also acknowledges his work on the Alex Haley/Norman Lear series Palmerstown U.S.A. Lastly, he gives his impressions of three individuals for whom he worked extensively: actor/director George Stanford Brown, Bill Cosby, and Michael Jackson. Gary Rutkowski conducted the interview on December 5, 2007 in Los Angeles, CA.

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    Chapter 1

    On his early life and influences

    21:37

    On this early interest in film; on running into Desi Arnaz on the Paramount lot; on joining the Navy

    07:12

    Chapter 2

    On joining the Navy; on filming his first movie

    19:23

    On his career plans after the Navy; on breaking into the business after leaving the Navy

    10:17

    Chapter 3

    On doing visual effects at the Westheimer Company for various shows; on doing visual effects for commercials

    07:50

    On doing visual effects for Star Trek; on working with Gene Roddenberry on Star Trek; on shooting models for the visual effects on Star Trek; on how effects held up over the years

    10:17

    On doing visual effects for The Learning Tree; on working on The FBI and on joining the union

    11:30

    Chapter 4

    On the cinematographers union not being quick to welcome Black members; on what he learned while working on feature films early on; on working with Gordon Parks and in independent film

    17:04

    On working on The Last Picture Show and on working with John Wayne; on how he came to be involved with Roots

    12:17

    Chapter 5

    On how he came to be involved with Roots; on his first day shooting Roots; on staging a scene for the show

    10:38

    On the challenges of lighting Roots; on staging the Roots scenes in which "Kunta Kinte's" foot is cut off and where "Kissy" is taken from her family; on the directors of Roots

    10:35

    On the diversity of the Roots crew and on his interaction with Alex Haley; on the success of Roots; on the legacy of Roots

    07:19

    Chapter 6

    On his Emmy nominations for Roots; on his work on Roots: The Next Generations and on what Roots has meant to his life and career

    11:09

    On depth of field and selective focus when shooting; on the use of filters

    05:47

    On people with whom he worked, including Georg Stanford Brown, Bill Cosby, and Michael Jackson ; on then-current projects and his proudest career achievement

    11:02

    Chapter 7

    On then-current projects; on how things have changed for Black cinematographers during his career; on technological innovations during his career; on working with a crew

    09:27

    On advice to an aspiring cinematographer; on his mentors and mentoring others; on how he'd like to be remembered

    03:36

    Emmy Awards, The (Primetime and Daytime)

    Joseph M. Wilcots on being nominated for Emmys for Roots

    00:38

    FBI, The

    Joseph M. Wilcots on working on The FBI

    03:54

    Roots

    Joseph M. Wilcots on how he came to be involved with Roots

    03:46

    Joseph M. Wilcots on his first day shooting Roots

    05:14

    Joseph M. Wilcots on staging a scene for Roots

    01:36

    Joseph M. Wilcots on the challenges of lighting Roots

    03:54

    Joseph M. Wilcots on staging the Roots scenes in which "Kunta Kinte's" foot is cut off and where "Kissy" is taken from her family

    04:16

    Joseph M. Wilcots on the directors of Roots

    02:25

    Joseph M. Wilcots on the diversity of the Roots crew and on his interaction with Alex Haley

    03:59

    Joseph M. Wilcots on the success of Roots

    02:29

    Joseph M. Wilcots on the legacy of Roots

    00:51

    Joseph M. Wilcots on being nominated for Emmys for Roots

    00:38

    Joseph M. Wilcots on what Roots has meant to his life and career

    01:47

    Joseph M. Wilcots on how he came to be involved with Roots

    03:51

    Roots: The Next Generations

    Joseph M. Wilcots on shooting Roots: The Next Generations

    02:49

    Joseph M. Wilcots on the "George Lincoln Rockwell" scene in Roots: The Next Generations

    04:01

    Joseph M. Wilcots on the staging of the assassination of Malcolm X in Roots: The Next Generations

    01:54

    Star Trek

    Joseph M. Wilcots on doing visual effects for Star Trek

    05:45

    Joseph M. Wilcots on working with Gene Roddenberry on Star Trek

    01:57

    Joseph M. Wilcots on shooting models for the visual effects on Star Trek and on how they held up over the years

    02:21

    Advice

    Joseph M. Wilcots on advice to an aspiring cinematographer

    01:04

    Creative Influences and Inspiration

    Joseph M. Wilcots on his mentors and mentoring others

    00:55

    Emmy Awards

    Joseph M. Wilcots on being nominated for Emmys for Roots

    00:38

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Joseph M. Wilcots on how things have changed for Black cinematographers during his career

    00:42

    Joseph M. Wilcots on becoming the first Black member of the cinematographers union

    04:09

    Joseph M. Wilcots on the cinematographers union not being quick to welcome Black members

    06:05

    Memorable Moments on Television

    Joseph M. Wilcots on staging the Roots scenes in which "Kunta Kinte's" foot is cut off and where "Kissy" is taken from her family

    04:16

    Pivotal Career Moments

    Joseph M. Wilcots on his mentors and mentoring others

    00:55

    Representation on Television

    Joseph M. Wilcots on how things have changed for Black cinematographers during his career

    00:42

    Joseph M. Wilcots on becoming the first Black member of the cinematographers union

    04:09

    Joseph M. Wilcots on the cinematographers union not being quick to welcome Black members

    06:05

    Technological Innovation

    Joseph M. Wilcots on technological innovations during his career, and on working with a crew

    05:46

    Television Industry

    Joseph M. Wilcots on advice to an aspiring cinematographer

    01:04

    Underrepresented Voices

    Joseph M. Wilcots on how things have changed for Black cinematographers during his career

    00:42

    Joseph M. Wilcots on becoming the first Black member of the cinematographers union

    04:09

    Joseph M. Wilcots on the cinematographers union not being quick to welcome Black members

    06:05

    We Cried

    Joseph M. Wilcots on staging the Roots scenes in which "Kunta Kinte's" foot is cut off and where "Kissy" is taken from her family

    04:16

    Camera Operator

    Joseph M. Wilcots on becoming the first Black member of the cinematographers union

    04:09

    Joseph M. Wilcots on the cinematographers union not being quick to welcome Black members

    06:05

    Cinematographer

    Joseph M. Wilcots on the challenges of lighting Roots

    03:53

    Joseph M. Wilcots on depth of field and selective focus when shooting; on the use of filters

    05:47

    Joseph M. Wilcots on technological innovations during his career and on working with a crew

    05:46

    Joseph M. Wilcots on advice to an aspiring cinematographer

    01:04

    Joseph M. Wilcots on becoming the first Black member of the cinematographers union

    04:09

    Joseph M. Wilcots on the cinematographers union not being quick to welcome Black members

    06:05

    Production Professionals

    Joseph M. Wilcots on the challenges of lighting Roots

    03:53

    Joseph M. Wilcots on depth of field and selective focus when shooting; on the use of filters

    05:47

    Joseph M. Wilcots on technological innovations during his career and on working with a crew

    05:46

    Joseph M. Wilcots on advice to an aspiring cinematographer

    01:04

    Joseph M. Wilcots on becoming the first Black member of the cinematographers union

    04:09

    Joseph M. Wilcots on the cinematographers union not being quick to welcome Black members

    06:05

    Commercials

    Joseph M. Wilcots on doing visual effects for commercials

    02:31

    Cop/Detective/Mystery Series

    Joseph M. Wilcots on working on The FBI

    03:54

    Sci-Fi/Supernatural Series

    Joseph M. Wilcots on doing visual effects for Star Trek

    10:03

    TV Movies/Miniseries/Dramatic Specials

    Joseph M. Wilcots on doing cinematography for Roots

    28:32

    Joseph M. Wilcots on doing cinematography for Roots and Roots: The Next Generations

    11:09

    Desi Arnaz

    Joseph M. Wilcots on trying to get into motion pictures and running into Desi Arnaz on the Paramount lot

    01:06

    Marlon Brando

    Joseph M. Wilcots on the "George Lincoln Rockwell" scene in Roots: The Next Generations

    04:01

    Georg Stanford Brown

    Joseph M. Wilcots on working with Georg Stanford Brown

    01:44

    Marvin J. Chomsky

    Joseph M. Wilcots on the directors of Roots - Marvin J. Chomsky

    01:25

    Bill Cosby

    Joseph M. Wilcots on working with Bill Cosby

    03:06

    Alex Haley

    Joseph M. Wilcots on the diversity of the Roots crew and on his interaction with Alex Haley

    03:59

    Joseph M. Wilcots on the legacy of Roots

    00:51

    Michael Jackson

    Joseph M. Wilcots on working with Michael Jackson

    04:52

    Gilbert Moses

    Joseph M. Wilcots on the directors of Roots - Gilbert Moses

    00:51

    Gordon Parks

    Joseph M. Wilcots on working with Gordon Parks

    06:12

    Gene Roddenberry

    Joseph M. Wilcots on working with Gene Roddenberry on Star Trek

    01:57

    Robert Surtees

    Joseph M. Wilcots on his mentors

    00:15

    John Wayne

    Joseph M. Wilcots on working with John Wayne on the film The Cowboys

    05:30

    Malcolm X

    Joseph M. Wilcots on the staging of the assassination of Malcolm X in Roots: The Next Generations

    01:54

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