"I created a set of three rules about what criteria should be in deciding what's in an evening news program: 'Is my world safe? Is my home safe? If it is, what's happened in the last 24 hours to make life better or worse?' This is where all news stories then begin."

    About This Interview

    In his three-hour-and-fifteen-minute interview, Av Westin (1929-2022) talks about his early work in network radio news as a copy boy for Edward R. Murrow and his transfer to television news. He recalls co-creating the groundbreaking CBS Morning News with Mike Wallace, as well as his relationship with Wallace. He describes producing a variety of documentaries for CBS News and his eventual departure from the organization. Westin chronicles his brief stint at the Public Broadcasting Laboratory and outlines his arrival at ABC News, where he produced ABC News aka World News Tonight for several years before departing to save 20/20 with an innovative mix of hard news and investigative reporting. He recounts his departure from ABC News, which began with an eighteen-page memo requested by Capital Cities on the state of the organization. He speaks of executive producing the syndicated Inside Edition and touches on his work at the National Television Academy of Arts and Sciences. Dr. Ralph Engelman conducted the interview on June 16, 2011 in New York, NY.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Av Westin on being a copy boy for Edward R. Murrow

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    Av Westin on being in Berlin when the Berlin Wall went up

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    Av Westin on The ABC Evening News with Harry Reasoner and Barbara Walters

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    Av Westin on the changes he brought to 20/20 

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    Av Westin on the early format of CBS News

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    Av Westin on advice to aspiring journalists

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    Chapter 1

    On his early life and influences; on his work in radio news; on his transition to television news

    16:11

    On becoming a producer/director for CBS News; on the early format of CBS News; on various people with whom he worked at CBS and the importance of the producer in television news

    16:19

    On his choice to be behind-the-scenes; on creating The CBS Morning News with Mike Wallace

    13:55

    On witnessing the construction of the Berlin Wall; on producing documentaries for CBS News; on departing CBS in 1969

    12:51

    Chapter 2

    On the Public Broadcasting Laboratory; on joining ABC News; on various ABC News anchors

    14:16

    On The ABC Evening News with Harry Reasoner and Barbara Walters; on working with Barbara Walters; on sexism over female news anchors

    11:45

    On the changes technological innovations such as satellites brought to ABC News; on Roone Arledge and the "three anchor" World News Tonight

    16:14

    On serving as Executive Producer on 20/20; on the Capital Cities takeover of ABC; on Geraldo Rivera and 20/20

    16:03

    Chapter 3

    On the eighteen page memo that resulted in his termination at ABC News; on leaving 20/20; on Nightline and Ted Koppel

    14:36

    On producing the ABC News documentary 45/85 and various other documentaries; on changes in network news; on producing the series Our World and The Eagle and the Bear

    13:00

    On various major news events in his career; on leaving ABC News; on executive producing Inside Edition

    17:29

    On working as a Vice President at Time Warner; on the Freedom Forum Fellowship and working with the National Television Academy of Arts and Sciences Foundation; on his feeling about network news since he left and the rise of 24/7 cable news

    15:06

    Chapter 4

    On the impact of television news; on news covering entertainment stories; on advice to aspiring journalists

    12:52

    20/20

    Av Westin on the creation of 20/20

    02:42

    Av Westin on the changes he brought to 20/20 

    03:03

    Av Westin on comparing 20/20 and 60 Minutes

    01:13

    Av Westin on the stories 20/20 covered and competition from other news magazines

    02:44

    Av Westin on the firing of Geraldo Rivera from 20/20 and his thoughts on Rivera as a journalist

    04:44

    Av Westin on leaving 20/20

    01:21

    60 Minutes

    Av Westin on comparing 20/20 and 60 Minutes

    01:13

    ABC News Nightline

    Av Westin on Nightline and Ted Koppel

    03:31

    ABC World News Tonight

    Av Westin on joining ABC News  as Executive Producer and the changes he brought

    03:53

    Av Westin on ABC News anchors Howard K. Smith and Frank Reynolds

    02:32

    Av Westin on Harry Reasoner joining ABC News

    00:55

    Av Westin on The ABC Evening News with Harry Reasoner and Barbara Walters

    02:11

    Av Westin on Barbara Walters as a journalist

    04:54

    Av Westin on negative reactions to Barbara Walters and other female news anchors

    04:40

    Av Westin on the technological innovations and the impact of satellites during his tenure at ABC News

    04:33

    Av Westin on Roone Arledge's impact on ABC News

    07:00

    Av Westin on the "three anchor" version of World News Tonight

    01:46

    CBS Morning News

    Av Westin on creating the CBS Morning News  and innovating a new news format

    06:28

    Av Westin on working with Mike Wallace

    01:57

    CBS Reports

    Av Westin on producing CBS Reports and other documentaries for CBS News

    03:09

    Inside Edition

    Av Westin on Executive Producing Inside Edition and working with Bill O'Reilly

    05:10

    9/11

    Av Westin on 9/11

    01:04

    Civil Rights Movement

    Av Westin on various major news events in his career

    11:02

    Cold War

    Av Westin on being in Berlin when the Berlin Wall went up

    05:17

    Av Westin on various major news events in his career

    11:02

    Hollywood Blacklist

    Av Westin on the Hollywood Blacklist

    01:49

    Industry Crossroads

    Av Westin on the Hollywood Blacklist

    01:49

    JFK Assassination and Funeral

    Av Westin on various major news events in his career

    11:02

    Korean War

    Av Westin on various major news events in his career

    11:02

    Media Consolidation

    Av Westin on the Capital Cities takeover of ABC

    01:37

    Moon Landing

    Av Westin on various major news events in his career

    11:02

    Network Creation

    Av Westin on the Public Broadcasting Laboratory

    06:56

    Representation on Television

    Av Westin on negative reactions to Barbara Walters and other female news anchors

    04:40

    Technological Innovation

    Av Westin on the technological innovations and the impact of satellites during his tenure at ABC News

    04:33

    Av Westin on the impact of the internet on television news

    02:51

    Av Westin on Executive Producing the A&E documentary The Eagle and the Bear and the impact of cable television

    02:33

    Television Industry

    Av Westin on the Public Broadcasting Laboratory

    06:56

    Av Westin on the Capital Cities takeover of ABC

    01:37

    Vietnam War

    Av Westin on various major news events in his career

    11:02

    War

    Av Westin on being in Berlin when the Berlin Wall went up

    05:17

    Av Westin on various major news events in his career

    11:02

    Women

    Av Westin on negative reactions to Barbara Walters and other female news anchors

    04:40

    Journalists & News Producers

    Av Westin on the importance of the producer in television news

    03:09

    Av Westin on advice to aspiring journalists

    01:08

    Av Westin on the career path he'd take if he were starting out in 2011

    00:54

    News Producer

    Av Westin on the importance of the producer in television news

    03:09

    Av Westin on advice to aspiring journalists

    01:08

    Av Westin on the career path he'd take if he were starting out in 2011

    00:54

    News and Documentary

    Av Westin on creating the CBS Morning News

    08:25

    Av Westin on Executive Producing ABC News aka World News Tonight

    35:19

    Av Westin on Executive Producing ABC's 20/20

    35:19

    Av Westin on the impact of the internet on television news

    02:51

    Av Westin on Executive Producing Inside Edition and working with Bill O'Reilly

    05:10

    Roone Arledge

    Av Westin on Roone Arledge's impact on ABC News

    07:00

    Av Westin on the "three anchor" version of World News Tonight

    01:46

    Av Westin on the creation of 20/20

    02:42

    Av Westin on the eighteen page memo that resulted in his termination at ABC News

    09:44

    Av Westin on changes made by Roone Arledge during Westin's tenure at ABC News

    01:12

    Katie Couric

    Av Westin on negative reactions to Barbara Walters and other female news anchors

    04:40

    Walter Cronkite

    Av Westin on various people with whom he worked at CBS News

    03:36

    Hugh Downs

    Av Westin on the creation of 20/20

    02:42

    Linda Ellerbee

    Av Westin on Executive Producing Our World for ABC News

    01:37

    Fred Friendly

    Av Westin on various people with whom he worked at CBS News

    04:00

    Av Westin on working with Mike Wallace

    01:57

    Av Westin on producing CBS Reports and other documentaries for CBS News

    03:09

    Av Westin on leaving CBS News in 1969 and Fred Friendly's departure

    02:32

    Av Westin on the Public Broadcasting Laboratory

    06:56

    Don Hewitt

    Av Westin on the early format of CBS News

    03:40

    Av Westin on Don Hewitt's role in creating television news

    01:26

    Av Westin on various people with whom he worked at CBS News

    04:00

    Av Westin on working with Mike Wallace

    00:57

    Peter Jennings

    Av Westin on the "three anchor" version of World News Tonight

    01:46

    Ted Koppel

    Av Westin on Nightline and Ted Koppel

    03:31

    Roger Mudd

    Av Westin on various people with whom he worked at CBS News

    04:00

    Edward R. Murrow

    Av Westin on being a copy boy for Edward R. Murrow

    02:13

    Av Westin on the early format of CBS News

    03:40

    Bill O'Reilly

    Av Westin on Executive Producing Inside Edition and working with Bill O'Reilly

    05:10

    Harry Reasoner

    Av Westin on Harry Reasoner joining ABC News

    00:55

    Av Westin on The ABC Evening News with Harry Reasoner and Barbara Walters

    02:11

    Frank Reynolds

    Av Westin on ABC News anchors Howard K. Smith and Frank Reynolds

    02:32

    Av Westin on the "three anchor" version of World News Tonight

    01:46

    Geraldo Rivera

    Av Westin on the changes he brought to 20/20

    03:03

    Av Westin on the firing of Geraldo Rivera from 20/20 and his thoughts on Rivera as a journalist

    04:44

    Bob Shanks

    Av Westin on the creation of 20/20

    02:42

    Howard K. Smith

    Av Westin on ABC News anchors Howard K. Smith and Frank Reynolds

    02:32

    Sander Vanocur

    Av Westin on various people with whom he worked at CBS News

    04:00

    Mike Wallace

    Av Westin on creating the CBS Morning News and innovating a new news format

    06:28

    Av Westin on working with Mike Wallace

    01:57

    Barbara Walters

    Av Westin on The ABC Evening News with Harry Reasoner and Barbara Walters

    02:11

    Av Westin on Barbara Walters as a journalist

    04:54

    Av Westin on negative reactions to Barbara Walters and other female news anchors

    04:40

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