"I thought TV was a gimmick like 3-D movies and it would just go away. I had no idea that the tail would eventually wag the dog, and treat me much kinder than radio did."

    About This Interview

    In his three-and-a-half-hour interview, Hugh Downs (1921-2020) discusses his 50-plus years in television. He talks of his career in radio and transitioning to television in the Chicago market. He recalls announcing for the popular children's show Kukla, Fran & Ollie. He speaks of moving to New York to be the announcer for The Home Show, and talks of working as the announcer and sometimes guest on Sid Caesar's Caesar's Hour. Downs tells of announcing and guest hosting for The Jack Paar Show (aka The Tonight Show) and details Paar's infamous walk out on the program in February 1960. He talks of hosting one of the longest-running game shows, NBC's Concentration, and fondly recalls his days as host of Today. He shares stories from some of his most memorable interviews, including those with Bobby Fischer, Martin Luther King, Jr., and King Hassan of Morocco. Downs also speaks about his work on the news show 20/20. Bill Tynan conducted the interview on October 22, 1997 in New York, NY.

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    Hugh Downs on being offered the role of host of Today

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    Chapter 1

    On his early years and influences; on his start in radio and having stage fright behind the microphone

    07:28

    On moving from Lima to Detroit radio; on getting drafted into the Army during World War II; on moving to Chicago and working for NBC network radio; on his role as a staff announcer (often for soap operas)

    16:11

    On transitioning from radio to television in Chicago; on experimental television

    03:43

    Chapter 2

    On working in Chicago radio and television; on announcing for the soap opera Hawkins Falls

    07:32

    On announcing for Kukla, Fran & Ollie; on Burr Tillstrom and interviewing a young Jim Henson; on live radio and television mishaps

    11:51

    On moving to New York and concentrating on television; on Chicago's role in broadcasting innovation; on NBC President Pat Weaver

    08:44

    Chapter 3

    On hosting NBC's The Home Show in New York; on on-camera announcing for Caesar's Hour

    16:05

    On his involvement with scientific programming; on hosting Today and Concentration

    05:50

    On his role on The Tonight Show with Jack Paar

    05:58

    Chapter 4

    On working with Jack Paar on The Tonight Show; on Paar's strengths and weaknesses

    13:40

    On Jack Paar's famous walk out on The Tonight Show on February 11, 1960; on Paar's comeback and memorable guests on the program

    13:19

    Chapter 5

    On politicians appearing on The Tonight Show; on racial tensions and booking diverse guests on The Tonight Show; on The Hollywood Blacklist

    10:28

    On hosting the popular game show Concentration; on security on the show during the Quiz Show Scandals

    06:04

    On hosting Today; on differences between live and taped television programs and how they impact moral obligations; on the influence of advertisers

    10:42

    Chapter 6

    On his preparations for hosting Today; on memorable interviews on the show and leaving the program in 1971

    16:07

    On "The Today Girl" on Today and bringing Barbara Walters on-screen; on Barbara Walters' talent and his working relationship with her; on his attempts at retirement

    06:49

    On returning to broadcasting, this time at PBS; on the disastrous start of 20/20

    04:07

    Chapter 7

    On the origin of 20/20 (contd.); on the types of stories he enjoys; on working with Geraldo Rivera on the program

    10:02

    On his 1985 Guinness Book of World Record for all time most hours of television; on his longevity in television and thoughts on people with whom he's worked over the years

    18:29

    On what he considers the best of television; on the future of the medium

    01:08

    20/20

    Hugh Downs on the disastrous start of 20/20

    01:37

    Hugh Downs on the origin of 20/20 (contd.) and Roone Arledge's improvements to the show (including asking Downs to anchor the program)

    04:30

    Hugh Downs on differences between 20/20 and 60 Minutes

    00:45

    Hugh Downs on the stories he's enjoyed most on 20/20

    01:37

    Hugh Downs on Geraldo Rivera's work on 20/20 and after

    03:10

    Hugh Downs on doing two nights of 20/20 per week

    00:54

    60 Minutes

    Hugh Downs on differences between 20/20 and 60 Minutes

    05:15

    Aldrich Family, The

    Hugh Downs on subbing for a character on The Aldrich Family

    01:08

    Caesar's Hour

    Hugh Downs on on-camera announcing for Caesar's Hour

    03:54

    Concentration

    Hugh Downs on hosting Today and Concentration

    00:27

    Hugh Downs on hosting the popular game show Concentration and security on the show during the Quiz Show Scandals

    03:56

    Hugh Downs on the success of Concentration; on the prizes on the show

    01:45

    Hawkins Falls

    Hugh Downs on announcing for the soap opera Hawkins Falls

    00:41

    Hugh Downs on an actor's demands and the writers' response to them on the soap opera Hawkins Falls

    01:46

    Home Show, The

    Hugh Downs on the daytime program The Home Show

    01:02

    Hugh Downs on announcing for NBC's The Home Show in New York

    04:47

    Hugh Downs on unusual techniques used and humorous mishaps on NBC's The Home Show

    02:50

    Hugh Downs on the end of The Home Show

    02:37

    Kukla, Fran & Ollie

    Hugh Downs on announcing for Kukla, Fran & Ollie

    05:44

    One Life to Live

    Hugh Downs on playing himself on One Life to Live

    01:18

    Studs' Place

    Hugh Downs on the charm of Studs' Place

    00:57

    Today

    Hugh Downs on Dave Garroway's style on Today

    01:04

    Hugh Downs on being offered the role of host of Today

    00:49

    Hugh Downs on hosting Today and turning down other television offers

    01:58

    Hugh Downs on why he was drawn to hosting Today

    01:17

    Hugh Downs on his versatility and changes to the format on Today

    01:57

    Hugh Downs on his preparations for hosting Today

    02:55

    Hugh Downs on memorable interviews he conducted on Today

    09:05

    Hugh Downs on leaving Today in 1971

    01:18

    Hugh Downs on how Today evolved during his tenure on the program

    02:49

    Hugh Downs on "The Today Girl" on Today

    02:05

    Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson, The

    Hugh Downs on not being offered the Tonight Show despite having substituted for Jack Paar the most

    00:49

    Tonight Show, The (1962)

    Hugh Downs on not being offered the Tonight Show despite having substituted for Jack Paar the most [although Downs served as one of the 1962 interim hosts]

    00:49

    Tonight Starring Jack Paar aka The Jack Paar Show

    Hugh Downs on his role on The Tonight Show with Jack Paar

    05:46

    Hugh Downs on Jack Paar's famous walk out on The Tonight Show on February 11, 1960

    08:43

    Hugh Downs on Jack Paar's comeback after his famous walk out on The Tonight Show on February 11, 1960

    01:52

    Hugh Downs on memorable guests on The Tonight Show while he was announcer

    03:03

    Hugh Downs on working with Jack Paar on The Tonight Show; on Paar's talents

    00:00

    Hugh Downs on politicians appearing on The Tonight Show

    05:18

    Hugh Downs on racial tensions and booking diverse guests on The Tonight Show

    02:30

    Hugh Downs on The Tonight Show moving from live to taped, and the role of advertisers

    02:20

    1939-40 World's Fair

    Hugh Downs on seeing television for the first time at the 1939 World's Fair

    01:04

    Advertising and Sponsorship

    Hugh Downs on the role of advertisers on The Tonight Show

    00:34

    Bloopers

    Hugh Downs on a live radio slip-up and the lesson he learned from it

    01:33

    Hugh Downs on a live television slip-up and breaking up on primetime TV; on breaking up on radio and television

    03:08

    Censorship / Standards & Practices

    Hugh Downs on Jack Paar's famous walk out on The Tonight Show on February 11, 1960 and the censored joke that provoked it

    07:18

    Creative Influences and Inspiration

    Hugh Downs on his Emmy wins

    01:07

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Hugh Downs on seeing television for the first time at the 1939 World's Fair

    01:04

    Hugh Downs on hosting the first television program on space "The First Step Into Space" and his interest in scientific programming

    02:59

    Hugh Downs on racial tensions and booking diverse guests on The Tonight Show

    02:30

    Hollywood Blacklist

    Hugh Downs on The Hollywood Blacklist not affecting booking guests on The Tonight Show

    02:11

    Industry Crossroads

    Hugh Downs on The Hollywood Blacklist not affecting booking guests on The Tonight Show

    02:11

    Hugh Downs on hosting the popular game show Concentration and security on the show during the Quiz Show Scandals

    02:52

    Quiz Show Scandals

    Hugh Downs on hosting the popular game show Concentration and security on the show during the Quiz Show Scandals

    02:52

    Representation on Television

    Hugh Downs on racial tensions and booking diverse guests on The Tonight Show

    02:30

    Technological Innovation

    Hugh Downs on differences between live and taped television programs and how they impact moral obligations

    01:51

    Hugh Downs on how Today evolved during his tenure on the program

    00:41

    Hugh Downs on how color television affected Today (and how his colorblindness affects his job)

    01:30

    Television Industry

    Hugh Downs on Jack Paar's famous walk out on The Tonight Show on February 11, 1960 and the censored joke that provoked it

    07:18

    Hugh Downs on the role of advertisers on The Tonight Show

    00:33

    Hugh Downs on what he considers the best of television

    00:33

    Hugh Downs on the future of television

    00:35

    Underrepresented Voices

    Hugh Downs on racial tensions and booking diverse guests on The Tonight Show

    02:30

    War

    Hugh Downs on getting drafted into the Army during World War II

    03:04

    World War II

    Hugh Downs on getting drafted into the Army during World War II

    03:04

    Hosts

    Hugh Downs on interviewing Frank Lloyd Wright and what he learned about interviewing

    01:27

    Interviewer

    Hugh Downs on interviewing Frank Lloyd Wright and what he learned about interviewing

    01:27

    Children's Programming

    Hugh Downs on announcing for Kukla, Fran & Ollie

    05:44

    Game Shows

    Hugh Downs on hosting the popular game show Concentration and security on the show during the Quiz Show Scandals

    05:41

    Late Night

    Hugh Downs on being on The Tonight Show with Jack Paar; on Paar's wit

    05:46

    Hugh Downs on Jack Paar's famous walk out on The Tonight Show on February 11, 1960

    09:42

    Hugh Downs on politicians and diverse guests appearing on The Tonight Show

    07:48

    News and Documentary

    Hugh Downs on announcing for NBC's The Home Show in New York

    10:14

    Hugh Downs on his work on 20/20 (contd.)

    10:02

    Talk Shows

    Hugh Downs on why he was drawn to hosting Today

    03:17

    Hugh Downs on his preparation for hosting Today; on memorable interviews on the show and leaving the program in 1971

    18:03

    Woody Allen

    Hugh Downs on memorable guests on The Tonight Show while he was announcer - Woody Allen

    01:34

    Steve Allen

    Hugh Downs on differences between Steve Allen and Jack Paar on The Tonight Show

    00:44

    Roone Arledge

    Hugh Downs on the origin of 20/20 (contd.) and Roone Arledge's improvements to the show (including asking Downs to anchor the program)

    04:30

    Hugh Downs on working with Roone Arledge

    01:20

    Desi Arnaz

    Hugh Downs on announcing dance band remotes featuring Desi Arnaz

    00:50

    Carol Burnett

    Hugh Downs on Carol Burnett's appearance on The Tonight Show with Jack Paar (singing "I Made a Fool of Myself Over John Foster Dulles")

    00:41

    Sid Caesar

    Hugh Downs on on-camera announcing for Caesar's Hour

    03:54

    Johnny Carson

    Hugh Downs on working with Johnny Carson

    00:22

    John Chancellor

    Hugh Downs on working with John Chancellor in Chicago radio

    00:51

    Bill Cosby

    Hugh Downs on memorable guests on The Tonight Show while he was announcer - Bill Cosby

    00:22

    Errol Flynn

    Hugh Downs on Errol Flynn appearing on The Tonight Show with Jack Paar

    00:49

    Redd Foxx

    Hugh Downs on memorable guests on Today - Redd Foxx

    00:34

    Arlene Francis

    Hugh Downs on announcing for NBC's The Home Show with host Arlene Francis in New York

    00:42

    Dave Garroway

    Hugh Downs on Dave Garroway's style on Today

    01:04

    Lawrence K. Grossman

    Hugh Downs on working with Lawrence K. Grossman

    01:46

    Hugh Hefner with Emerson College

    Hugh Downs on interviewing a young Hugh Hefner

    00:36

    Jim Henson

    Hugh Downs on interviewing a young Jim Henson

    00:24

    John F. Kennedy

    Hugh Downs on the importance of appearances on The Tonight Show to JFK's election win

    00:21

    Robert F. Kennedy

    Hugh Downs on RFK's appearance on The Tonight Show after JFK's assassination

    00:54

    Hugh Downs on RFK discussing Jimmy Hoffa on The Tonight Show

    00:54

    Martin Luther King, Jr.

    Hugh Downs on interviewing Martin Luther King, Jr.

    00:57

    Jack Lescoulie

    Hugh Downs on working with Jack Lescoulie

    00:49

    Elaine May

    Hugh Downs on memorable guests on The Tonight Show while he was announcer - Mike Nichols and Elaine May

    00:19

    Ed McMahon

    Hugh Downs on working with Ed McMahon

    00:21

    Al Morgan

    Hugh Downs on working with producer Al Morgan

    01:14

    Mike Nichols

    Hugh Downs on memorable guests on The Tonight Show while he was announcer - Mike Nichols and Elaine May

    00:19

    Jack Paar

    Hugh Downs on his role on The Tonight Show with Jack Paar; on Paar's wit

    05:46

    Announcer Hugh Downs on Jack Paar's famous walk out on The Tonight Show on February 11, 1960

    09:38

    Hugh Downs on differences between Steve Allen and Jack Paar on The Tonight Show

    00:44

    Hugh Downs on working with Jack Paar on The Tonight Show; on Paar's nervousness

    02:39

    Hugh Downs on Jack Paar's strengths and weaknesses; on his interviewing skills and his ability to discover new talent

    08:35

    Hugh Downs on politicians appearing on The Tonight Show

    05:18

    Hugh Downs on working with Jack Paar

    00:24

    Geraldo Rivera

    Hugh Downs on Geraldo Rivera's work on 20/20 and after; on why Geraldo left the show

    03:10

    David Sarnoff

    Hugh Downs on David Sarnoff's view of competition and Sarnoff's interest in broadcasting

    02:42

    Hugh Downs on meeting David Sarnoff

    00:39

    Adlai Stevenson

    Hugh Downs on interviewing then-United Nations Ambassador Adlai Stevenson

    02:00

    Burr Tillstrom

    Hugh Downs on Burr Tillstrom's ad-libbing on Kukla, Fran & Ollie

    01:45

    Hugh Downs on Kukla, Fran & Ollie creator Burr Tillstrom doing portable puppet shows and his celebrity

    02:37

    Barbara Walters

    Hugh Downs on "The Today Girl" on Today and bringing Barbara Walters on-screen

    02:05

    Hugh Downs on his working relationship with Barbara Walters; on her success

    03:28

    Sylvester L. "Pat" Weaver

    Hugh Downs on NBC's Pat Weaver and his television innovations

    03:41

    Av Westin

    Hugh Downs on working with producer Av Westin

    01:11

    Frank Lloyd Wright

    Hugh Downs on interviewing Frank Lloyd Wright and what he learned about interviewing

    01:27

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