"I was instructed sometimes to hide the cards from censors, to not let them see the script, because, shall we say, some people were going to skirt around the issue, the edges of these things."

    About This Interview

    In his nearly three-hour interview, "Cue Card King" Barney McNulty (1923-2000) recounts his early years and his first big break -- working for The Ed Wynn Show. He recalls creating the concept of cue cards for Wynn, who was getting on in age and having trouble remembering lines. He discusses his cue card work on The George Burns and Gracie Allen Show, I Love Lucy, The Frank Sinatra Show, The Alan Young Show, Amos 'N' Andy, Queen for a Day, and The Carol Burnett Show, among many others. He details his processes for creating cue cards and for working with actors to look natural while reading the cards, and talks about his company, Ad-Libs. McNulty also fondly recalls the pleasure of working with Bob Hope for over 40 years and touring with Hope and his USO shows. Karen Herman conducted the interview on December 9, 1997 in North Hollywood, CA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Chapter 1

    On his early life and influences; on listening to the radio as a kid and on trying out to be on various radio shows; on what he wanted to be when he grew up; on his experience of World War II

    16:11

    On attending UCLA; on seeing television for the first time at the 1939 World's Fair; on getting into theater; on being hired by CBS radio as an usher; on early talk about television on CBS

    12:52

    Chapter 2

    On how he became involved with The Ed Wynn Show; on the format of The Ed Wynn Show; on a typical workweek writing cue cards for The Ed Wynn Show, and on working on The George Gobel Show

    16:02

    On the logistics of his weekly duties writing cue cards for several CBS shows, including The Ed Wynn Show; on CBS and The Ed Wynn Show in the early days of television

    05:54

    On the studio of The Ed Wynn Show; on where he was positioned in the studio with his cue cards for The Ed Wynn Show and on his other duties; on the end of The Ed Wynn Show

    06:37

    Chapter 3

    On the physical aspects of cue cards; on the logistics of writing out cue cards and on working with performers; on dealing with emergency situations with cue cards

    13:56

    On perfecting his cue card system over the years; on his competition; on dealing with shadows from cue cards and on getting actors to not look like they're looking at the cards; on using shorthand on the cue cards or using key words

    04:40

    On how he got his cue card assignments and on his cue card company Ad-Libs; on doing cue cards for The George Burns and Gracie Allen Show

    09:50

    Chapter 4

    On doing cue cards for I Love Lucy for Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz; on doing cue cards for The Frank Sinatra Show and on working with a teleprompter; on doing cue cards for Jack Webb on Dragnet and other shows

    12:03

    On working with Bob Hope on his TV specials; on Bob Hope's management style and how he worked with his writers; on doing cue cards for Bob Hope's USO specials

    16:57

    Chapter 5

    On doing cue cards and other duties for Bob Hope's USO Specials; on how Bob Hope's USO shows were received; on tailoring the show (and the cue cards) to the audience; on working with Bob Hope as he got older

    13:00

    On a bomb going off near him when he was with Bob Hope's USO show; on the people that were in Bob Hope's entourage; on the legacy of Bob Hope

    09:05

    On doing cue cards for Milton Berle on The Milton Berle Show; on doing cue cards for Groucho Marx on You Bet Your Life, and on Bill Cosby's remake of the show

    06:09

    Chapter 6

    On doing cue cards for Amos 'N' Andy and Queen for a Day; on doing cue cards for Let's Make a Deal, Ralph Edwards, and The Carol Burnett Show; on doing cue cards for Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In

    10:09

    On working with actors reading cue cards, including an initially reluctant Bette Davis; on what he feels represents the best of television; on the then-future of television; on how he'd like to be remembered

    09:03

    On various people he worked with in his career

    04:54

    On B-roll photos from his career: a drawing him of with phones; with Tony Bennett and Tony Danza; with Mark Spitz; with David Hasselhoff; with Burgess Meredith; with Ralph Edwards, Andy Griffith, and Ron Howard; with Garth Brooks; with Bob Hope; with Dan Rowan, Dick Martin, and Bob Hope

    05:47

    Amos 'N' Andy

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for Amos 'N' Andy

    03:53

    Bob Hope Specials

    Barry McNulty on working with Bob Hope on his TV specials

    08:05

    Barry McNulty on Bob Hope's management style and how he worked with his writers

    04:05

    Barry McNulty on how Bob Hope felt about television

    02:22

    Barry McNulty on doing cue cards for Bob Hope's USO specials

    02:25

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards and other duties for Bob Hope's USO Specials

    07:03

    Barney McNulty on how Bob Hope's USO shows were received and on tailoring the show (and the cue cards) to the audience

    03:46

    Barney McNulty on working with Bob Hope as he got older and his eyesight declined

    02:11

    Barney McNulty on a bomb going off near him when he was with Bob Hope's USO show

    04:16

    Carol Burnett Show, The (1967-78)

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for Let's Make a Deal, Ralph Edwards, and The Carol Burnett Show

    01:59

    Dragnet

    Barry McNulty on doing cue cards for Jack Webb on Dragnet and other shows

    03:00

    Ed Wynn Show, The

    Barney McNulty on early talk about television on CBS -- Ed Wynn comes out from NY to start a variety show to compete with Texaco Star Theater

    02:01

    Barney McNulty on how he became involved with The Ed Wynn Show, where he first became involved in writing out cue cards

    06:54

    Barney McNulty on the format of The Ed Wynn Show

    02:58

    Barney McNulty on a typical workweek writing cue cards for The Ed Wynn Show and working on The George Gobel Show

    06:10

    Barney McNulty on the logistics of his weekly duties writing cue cards for several CBS shows, including The Ed Wynn Show

    04:10

    Barney McNulty on CBS and The Ed Wynn Show in the early days of television

    01:43

    Barney McNulty on the studio of The Ed Wynn Show

    03:15

    Barney McNulty on where he was positioned in the studio with his cue cards for The Ed Wynn Show; on his other duties on the show

    01:37

    Barney McNulty on the end of The Ed Wynn Show

    01:42

    Frank Sinatra Show, The (1957-58)

    Barry McNulty on doing cue cards for The Frank Sinatra Show and on working with a teleprompter

    04:42

    George Burns and Gracie Allen Show, The

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for The George Burns and Gracie Allen Show

    05:26

    George Gobel Show, The

    Barney McNulty on a typical workweek writing cue cards for The Ed Wynn Show and working on The George Gobel Show

    06:10

    I Love Lucy

    Barry McNulty on doing cue cards for I Love Lucy for Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz

    04:21

    Let's Make a Deal

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for Let's Make a Deal, Ralph Edwards, and The Carol Burnett Show

    01:59

    Milton Berle Show, The (1954-56)

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for Milton Berle on The Milton Berle Show

    02:43

    Queen for a Day

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for Queen for a Day

    02:52

    Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In

    01:25

    You Bet Your Life

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for Groucho Marx on You Bet Your Life and on Bill Cosby's remake of the show

    03:26

    1939-40 World's Fair

    Barney McNulty on seeing television for the first time at the 1939 World's Fair

    01:57

    Censorship / Standards & Practices

    Barney McNulty on cue card professionals dealing with censorship

    01:24

    Comedy-Variety

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for The Ed Wynn Show

    28:30

    Barry McNulty on doing cue cards for I Love Lucy with Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz

    04:21

    First Big Break

    Barney McNulty on how he became involved with The Ed Wynn Show, where he first became involved in writing out cue cards

    06:54

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Barney McNulty on his experience of World War II

    07:00

    Barney McNulty on seeing television for the first time at the 1939 World's Fair

    01:57

    Barney McNulty on traveling with Bob Hope on his USO Tours of Vietnam

    17:16

    Pivotal Career Moments

    Barney McNulty on how he became involved with The Ed Wynn Show, where he first became involved in writing out cue cards

    06:54

    Television Industry

    Barney McNulty on cue card professionals dealing with censorship

    01:24

    Barney McNulty on what he feels represents the best of television and on the then-future of television

    03:50

    TV's Golden Age (1940s & '50s)

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for The Ed Wynn Show

    28:30

    Barry McNulty on doing cue cards for I Love Lucy with Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz

    04:21

    Vietnam War

    Barney McNulty on traveling with Bob Hope on his USO Tours of Vietnam

    17:16

    War

    Barney McNulty on his experience of World War II

    07:00

    Barney McNulty on traveling with Bob Hope on his USO Tours of Vietnam

    17:16

    World War II

    Barney McNulty on his experience of World War II

    07:00

    Inventor

    Barney McNulty on how he became involved with The Ed Wynn Show, where he first wrote out cue cards

    05:48

    Barney McNulty on the specifics of his cue card process and on his cue card company Ad-Libs

    22:55

    Barney McNulty on cue card professionals dealing with censorship

    01:24

    Barney McNulty on working with actors reading cue cards, including an initially reluctant Bette Davis

    02:55

    Production Professionals

    Barney McNulty on how he became involved with The Ed Wynn Show, where he first wrote out cue cards

    05:48

    Barney McNulty on the physical aspects of cue cards

    05:26

    Barney McNulty on the logistics of writing out cue cards and working with performers

    02:28

    Barney McNulty on dealing with emergency situations with cue cards and on the need to be quick on your feet

    06:02

    Barney McNulty on perfecting his cue card system over the years and on his competition

    01:18

    Barney McNulty on dealing with shadows from cue cards and getting actors to not look like they're looking at the cards

    01:15

    Barney McNulty on using shorthand on the cue cards or using key words

    02:06

    Barney McNulty on how he got his cue card assignments and on his cue card company Ad-Libs

    04:19

    Barney McNulty on cue card professionals dealing with censorship

    01:24

    Barney McNulty on working with actors reading cue cards, including an initially reluctant Bette Davis

    02:55

    Technology Innovators

    Barney McNulty on how he became involved with The Ed Wynn Show, where he first wrote out cue cards

    05:48

    Barney McNulty on the specifics of his cue card process and on his cue card company Ad-Libs

    22:55

    Barney McNulty on cue card professionals dealing with censorship

    01:24

    Barney McNulty on working with actors reading cue cards, including an initially reluctant Bette Davis

    02:55

    Comedy Series

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for The George Burns and Gracie Allen Show

    05:26

    Barry McNulty on doing cue cards for I Love Lucy for Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz

    04:21

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for Amos 'N' Andy

    03:53

    Cop/Detective/Mystery Series

    Barry McNulty on doing cue cards for Jack Webb on Dragnet and other shows

    03:00

    Game Shows

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for Groucho Marx on You Bet Your Life and on Bill Cosby's remake of the show

    03:26

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for Queen for a Day

    02:49

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for Let's Make a Deal, Ralph Edwards, and The Carol Burnett Show

    01:59

    Music Shows & Variety Shows/Specials

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for The Ed Wynn Show

    28:31

    Barney McNulty on a typical workweek writing cue cards for The Ed Wynn Show and working on The George Gobel Show

    06:10

    Barry McNulty on doing cue cards for The Frank Sinatra Show and on working with a teleprompter

    04:42

    Barry McNulty on working with Bob Hope on his TV specials

    16:57

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards and other duties for Bob Hope's USO Specials

    17:16

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for Milton Berle on The Milton Berle Show

    02:43

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for Let's Make a Deal, Ralph Edwards, and The Carol Burnett Show

    01:59

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In

    01:25

    Reality TV

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for Queen for a Day

    02:49

    Gracie Allen

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for The George Burns and Gracie Allen Show

    05:26

    Barney McNulty on working with Gracie Allen

    00:04

    Desi Arnaz

    Barry McNulty on doing cue cards for I Love Lucy for Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz

    04:21

    Fred Astaire

    Barney McNulty on working with Fred Astaire

    00:10

    Lucille Ball

    Barry McNulty on doing cue cards for I Love Lucy for Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz

    04:21

    Barney McNulty on working with Lucille Ball

    00:09

    Tony Bennett

    Barney McNulty on a photo of him with Tony Bennett and Tony Danza

    00:10

    Edgar Bergen

    Barney McNulty on working with Edgar Bergen

    00:18

    Milton Berle

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for Milton Berle on The Milton Berle Show

    02:43

    Garth Brooks

    Barney McNulty on a photo of him with Garth Brooks

    00:44

    George Burns

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for The George Burns and Gracie Allen Show

    05:26

    Tony Danza

    Barney McNulty on a photo of him with Tony Bennett and Tony Danza

    00:10

    Bette Davis

    Barney McNulty on working with actors reading cue cards, including an initially reluctant Bette Davis

    01:55

    Ralph Edwards

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for Let's Make a Deal, Ralph Edwards, and The Carol Burnett Show

    01:59

    Barney McNulty on a photo of him with Ralph Edwards, Ron Howard, and Andy Griffith

    00:38

    Redd Foxx

    Barney McNulty on working with Redd Foxx

    00:08

    George Gobel

    Barney McNulty on a typical workweek writing cue cards for The Ed Wynn Show and working on The George Gobel Show

    06:10

    Andy Griffith

    Barney McNulty on a photo of him with Ralph Edwards, Ron Howard, and Andy Griffith

    00:38

    David Hasselhoff

    Barney McNulty on a photo of him with David Hasselhoff

    00:36

    Bob Hope

    Barry McNulty on working with Bob Hope on his TV specials

    16:57

    Barney McNulty on the people that were in Bob Hope's entourage

    01:46

    Barney McNulty on the legacy of Bob Hope

    03:04

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards and other duties for Bob Hope's USO Specials

    07:03

    Barney McNulty on working with Bob Hope as he got older and his eyesight declined

    02:11

    Barney McNulty on his wife, Jill McNulty and on Bob Hope thanking the troops

    00:46

    Barney McNulty on a photo of him with Bob Hope and others

    00:11

    Barney McNulty on a photo with Dan Rowan, Bob Hope, and Dick Martin

    01:02

    Ron Howard

    Barney McNulty on a photo of him with Ralph Edwards, Ron Howard, and Andy Griffith

    00:38

    Seaman Jacobs

    Barney McNulty on the writers of The Ed Wynn Show and on adapting cue cards for last-minute material

    01:22

    Hal Kanter

    Barney McNulty on the writers of The Ed Wynn Show and on adapting cue cards for last-minute material

    01:22

    Danny Kaye

    Barney McNulty on working with Danny Kaye

    00:12

    Gene Kelly

    Barney McNulty on working with Gene Kelly

    00:13

    Dick Martin

    Barney McNulty on a photo with Dan Rowan, Bob Hope, and Dick Martin

    01:02

    Groucho Marx

    Barney McNulty on doing cue cards for Groucho Marx on You Bet Your Life and on Bill Cosby's remake of the show

    03:26

    Harpo Marx

    Barney McNulty on working with Ed Wynn and Harpo Marx

    01:04

    Burgess Meredith

    Barney McNulty on a photo of him with Burgess Meredith

    00:53

    Dick Powell

    Barney McNulty on working with Dick Powell

    00:37

    Dan Rowan

    Barney McNulty on a photo with Dan Rowan, Bob Hope, and Dick Martin

    01:02

    Dinah Shore

    Barney McNulty on working with Dinah Shore

    00:13

    Frank Sinatra

    Barry McNulty on doing cue cards for The Frank Sinatra Show and on working with a teleprompter

    04:42

    Barney McNulty on working with Frank Sinatra

    00:18

    Sid Smith

    Barney McNulty on working with Sid Smith

    00:12

    Mark Spitz

    Barney McNulty on a photo of him with Mark Spitz

    00:50

    Jack Webb

    Barry McNulty on doing cue cards for Jack Webb on Dragnet and other shows

    03:00

    Flip Wilson

    Barney McNulty on working with Flip Wilson

    00:32

    Ed Wynn

    Barney McNulty on early talk about television on CBS -- Ed Wynn comes out from NY to start a variety show to compete with Texaco Star Theater

    02:01

    Barney McNulty on how he became involved with The Ed Wynn Show

    06:54

    Barney McNulty on the format of The Ed Wynn Show

    02:58

    Barney McNulty on a typical workweek writing cue cards for The Ed Wynn Show and working on The George Gobel Show

    06:10

    Barney McNulty on CBS and The Ed Wynn Show in the early days of television

    01:43

    Barney McNulty on the end of The Ed Wynn Show

    01:42

    Alan Young

    Barney McNulty on working with Alan Young

    00:18

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