"We couldn't get Black people on the air until Julia came along to prove that White people will watch Black people on television. I feel some gratification when I see that."

    About This Interview

    In his three-hour interview, Hal Kanter (1918-2011) talks extensively about his first television work as a writer for famed comedian Ed Wynn on The Ed Wynn Show. He discusses how he ultimately wrote and directed The George Gobel Show. Kanter recalls his pioneering sitcom, Julia, which starred Diahann Carroll, and featured the first Black female lead on television. He recounts his short time as executive producer on All in the Family, which was cut short due to arguments with Norman Lear, as well as writing for Chico and the Man starring Freddie Prinze and Jack Albertson. He briefly touches on his work in feature film, where he wrote movies for Elvis Presley, Doris Day, Bob Hope, James Garner, and others. Kanter also talks of writing for Academy Awards shows and dozens of feature films. Sam Denoff conducted the interview on May 22, 1997 in Encino, CA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Hal Kanter on the process of producing a live episode of The Ed Wynn Show each week

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    Hal Kanter on writing for Kraft Music Hall featuring Milton Berle

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    Hal Kanter on creating Julia starring Diahann Carroll, the first series with an African-American female in a starring role

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    Hal Kanter on Buster Keaton and Lucille Ball appearing on The Ed Wynn Show

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    Hal Kanter on being executive producer during All in the Family's 1975-1976 season; on his difficulties working with Norman Lear

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    Hal Kanter on working on Chico and the Man and on the death of the show's star Freddie Prinze

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    Chapter 1

    On his early life and influences; on moving to Los Angeles to be a "ghostwriter for a ghostwriter" on a comic strip

    11:23

    On his first big break writing for Eddie Cantor and other comedians on radio; on his experience of World War II with Bob Hope

    17:16

    Chapter 2

    On writing for "The Alan Young Show" on radio; on writing for "The Danny Kaye Show" on radio

    08:58

    On his very first television writing job on The Ed Wynn Show; on his earliest experiences with television, and on how television writers were regarded; on the production of The Ed Wynn Show, and on phone calls from Fanny Brice

    10:32

    On the guest-stars of The Ed Wynn Show including The Three Stooges, Victor Moore and on attempting to get Al Jolson; on Buster Keaton and Lucille Ball appearing on The Ed Wynn Show; on Gloria Swanson and Gary Cooper appearing as a guest-stars on The Ed Wynn Show

    09:05

    Chapter 3

    On Ann Sheridan filling in for Gary Cooper on The Ed Wynn Show; on Dinah Shore appearing on The Ed Wynn Show; on the process of producing a live episode of The Ed Wynn Show each week, and on the show's Emmy Awards

    11:11

    On writing for The George Gobel Show; on working on The George Gobel Show with Bud Yorkin and Everett Greenbaum; on the sketches of The George Gobel Show

    09:17

    On the commercials of The George Gobel Show; on the big success of The George Gobel Show, and on some standards and practices issues with the show; on The George Gobel Show winning Emmy Awards

    09:02

    Chapter 4

    On leaving The George Gobel Show; on writing for Kraft Music Hall featuring Milton Berle

    09:25

    On creating Julia starring Diahann Carroll, the first series with an African-American female in a starring role

    12:07

    On getting another Emmy nomination for Julia; on creating The Jimmy Stewart Show

    07:44

    Chapter 5

    On being executive producer during All in the Family's 1975-1976 season and on his difficulties working with Norman Lear; on working on Chico and the Man and on the death of the show's star Freddie Prinze; on working on the Academy Awards shows and winning an Emmy for the show in 1991

    13:31

    On directing and writing various feature films with Elvis Presley, Doris Day, and James Garner; on his contributions to television history through his writing

    06:26

    On the then-current state of comedy on television; on how he'd like to be remembered; on various people he worked with in his career

    08:21

    Chapter 6

    On some of the people he worked with; on photos illustrating points in his career

    04:52

    On b-roll pictures from his career - with Danny Kaye; with Carl Sandberg; with Cary Grant; with Elvis Presley; with his daughter Abigail

    04:00

    Academy Awards, The

    Hal Kanter on working on the Academy Awards shows and winning an Emmy for the show in 1991

    04:31

    All in the Family

    Hal Kanter on being executive producer during All in the Family's 1975-1976 season; on his difficulties working with Norman Lear

    07:10

    Chico and the Man

    Hal Kanter on working on Chico and the Man and on the death of the show's star Freddie Prinze

    01:50

    Ed Wynn Show, The

    Hal Kanter on his very first television writing job on The Ed Wynn Show

    03:09

    Hal Kanter on the production of The Ed Wynn Show, and on phone calls from Fanny Brice

    04:03

    Hal Kanter on the guest-stars of The Ed Wynn Show including The Three Stooges, Victor Moore and on attempting to get Al Jolson

    03:54

    Hal Kanter on Buster Keaton and Lucille Ball appearing on The Ed Wynn Show

    02:31

    Hal Kanter on Gloria Swanson and Gary Cooper appearing as a guest-stars on The Ed Wynn Show

    02:40

    Hal Kanter on Ann Sheridan filling in for Gary Cooper on The Ed Wynn Show

    02:34

    Hal Kanter on Dinah Shore appearing on The Ed Wynn Show

    01:59

    Hal Kanter on the process of producing a live episode of The Ed Wynn Show each week

    03:06

    Hal Kanter on The Ed Wynn Show winning Emmy Awards

    01:12

    Emmy Awards, The (Primetime and Daytime)

    Hal Kanter on The Ed Wynn Show winning Emmys

    01:12

    Hal Kanter on The George Gobel Show winning Emmys

    02:12

    Hal Kanter on working on the Academy Awards shows and winning an Emmy for the show in 1991

    04:31

    George Gobel Show, The

    Hal Kanter on writing for The George Gobel Show

    05:29

    Hal Kanter on working on The George Gobel Show with Bud Yorkin and Everett Greenbaum

    02:18

    Hal Kanter on the sketches of The George Gobel Show

    01:30

    Hal Kanter on the commercials of The George Gobel Show and on the success of the show

    02:33

    Hal Kanter on the big success of The George Gobel Show, and on some standards and practices issues with the show

    04:14

    Hal Kanter on The George Gobel Show winning Emmy Awards

    02:12

    Hal Kanter on leaving The George Gobel Show

    02:31

    Jimmy Stewart Show, The

    Hal Kanter on creating The Jimmy Stewart Show

    06:42

    Julia (1968-71)

    Hal Kanter on creating Julia starring Diahann Carroll, the first series with an African-American female in a starring role

    12:07

    Hal Kanter on getting another Emmy nomination for Julia

    01:02

    Kraft Music Hall, The

    Hal Kanter on writing for Kraft Music Hall featuring Milton Berle

    06:54

    Censorship / Standards & Practices

    Hal Kanter on the big success of The George Gobel Show, and on some standards and practices issues with the show

    04:14

    Emmy Awards

    Hal Kanter on The Ed Wynn Show winning Emmys

    01:12

    Hal Kanter on The George Gobel Show winning Emmys

    02:12

    Hal Kanter on getting another Emmy nomination for Julia

    01:02

    Hal Kanter on working on the Academy Awards shows and winning an Emmy for the show in 1991

    04:31

    First Big Break

    Hal Kanter on his first big break writing for Eddie Cantor and other comedians on radio

    12:11

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Hal Kanter on his experience of World War II with Bob Hope

    05:05

    Hal Kanter on creating Julia starring Diahann Carroll, the first series with an African-American female in a starring role

    12:07

    Pivotal Career Moments

    Hal Kanter on his first big break writing for Eddie Cantor and other comedians on radio

    12:11

    Representation on Television

    Hal Kanter on creating Julia starring Diahann Carroll, the first series with an African-American female in a starring role

    12:07

    Television Industry

    Hal Kanter on his earliest experiences with television, and on how television writers were regarded

    03:20

    Hal Kanter on the big success of The George Gobel Show, and on some standards and practices issues with the show

    04:14

    Hal Kanter on the then-current state of comedy on television

    02:43

    Underrepresented Voices

    Hal Kanter on creating Julia starring Diahann Carroll, the first series with an African-American female in a starring role

    12:07

    War

    Hal Kanter on his experience of World War II with Bob Hope

    05:05

    World War II

    Hal Kanter on his experience of World War II with Bob Hope

    05:05

    Writers

    Hal Kanter on his contributions to television history thought his writing

    02:18

    Awards Shows

    Hal Kanter on working on the Academy Awards shows and winning an Emmy for the show in 1991

    04:31

    Comedy Series

    Hal Kanter on creating Julia starring Diahann Carroll

    13:09

    Hal Kanter on being executive producer during All in the Family's 1975-1976 season; on his difficulties working with Norman Lear

    07:10

    Hal Kanter on working on Chico and the Man and on the death of the show's star Freddie Prinze

    01:50

    Drama Series

    Hal Kanter on creating The Jimmy Stewart Show

    06:42

    Music Shows & Variety Shows/Specials

    Hal Kanter on his first television writing job on The Ed Wynn Show

    16:28

    Hal Kanter on writing for The Ed Wynn Show

    01:12

    Hal Kanter on The George Gobel Show winning Emmy Awards

    02:12

    Hal Kanter on writing for Kraft Music Hall featuring Milton Berle

    06:54

    Goodman Ace

    Hal Kanter on Goodman Ace

    00:13

    Fred Allen

    Hal Kanter on Fred Allen

    00:09

    Lucille Ball

    Hal Kanter on Buster Keaton and Lucille Ball appearing on The Ed Wynn Show

    02:31

    Hal Kanter on Milton Berle, Bob Hope, and Lucille Ball

    00:36

    Jack Benny

    Hal Kanter on certain shows not translating well from radio to television including Jack Benny

    02:21

    Milton Berle

    Hal Kanter on writing for Kraft Music Hall featuring Milton Berle

    06:54

    Hal Kanter on Milton Berle, Bob Hope, and Lucille Ball

    00:36

    Fanny Brice

    Hal Kanter on the production of The Ed Wynn Show, and on phone calls from Fanny Brice

    04:03

    Diahann Carroll

    Hal Kanter on creating Julia starring Diahann Carroll, the first series with an African-American female in a starring role

    12:07

    Hal Kanter on Diahann Carroll

    00:17

    Gary Cooper

    Hal Kanter on Gloria Swanson and Gary Cooper appearing as a guest-stars on The Ed Wynn Show

    02:40

    Bing Crosby

    Hal Kanter on Bing Crosby

    00:24

    George Gobel

    Hal Kanter on writing for The George Gobel Show

    05:29

    Hal Kanter on the big success of The George Gobel Show, and on some standards and practices issues with the show

    04:14

    Hal Kanter on Ed Wynn and George Gobel

    00:22

    Hal Kanter on Ed Wynn and George Gobel

    00:22

    Everett Greenbaum

    Hal Kanter on working on The George Gobel Show with Bud Yorkin and Everett Greenbaum

    02:18

    Hal Kanter on Everett Greenbaum

    00:07

    Bob Hope

    Hal Kanter on his experience of World War II with Bob Hope

    05:05

    Hal Kanter on Milton Berle, Bob Hope, and Lucille Ball

    00:36

    Seaman Jacobs

    Hal Kanter on Seaman Jacobs

    01:03

    Al Jolson

    Hal Kanter on the guest-stars of The Ed Wynn Show including The Three Stooges, Victor Moore and on attempting to get Al Jolson

    03:54

    Milt Josefsberg

    Hal Kanter on Milt Josefsberg

    00:59

    Danny Kaye

    Hal Kanter on writing for "The Danny Kaye Show" on radio

    03:56

    Hal Kanter on Danny Kaye

    00:15

    Buster Keaton

    Hal Kanter on Buster Keaton and Lucille Ball appearing on The Ed Wynn Show

    02:31

    Norman Lear

    Hal Kanter on being executive producer during All in the Family's 1975-1976 season; on his difficulties working with Norman Lear

    07:12

    Ralph Levy

    Hal Kanter on Ralph Levy

    00:27

    Dick Martin

    Hal Kanter on Dan Rowan and Dick Martin

    00:27

    Groucho Marx

    Hal Kanter on Groucho Marx

    00:08

    Carroll O'Connor

    Hal Kanter on being executive producer at the behest of Carroll O'Connor during All in the Family's 1975-1976 season; on his difficulties working with Norman Lear

    07:12

    Jack Paar

    Hal Kanter on Jack Paar

    00:14

    William S. Paley

    Hal Kanter on William S. Paley

    00:19

    Elvis Presley

    Hal Kanter on Elvis Presley

    00:07

    Freddie Prinze

    Hal Kanter on working on Chico and the Man and on the death of the show's star Freddie Prinze

    01:50

    Dan Rowan

    Hal Kanter on Dan Rowan and Dick Martin

    00:27

    Sherwood Schwartz

    Hal Kanter on Sherwood Schwartz

    00:19

    Dinah Shore

    Hal Kanter on Dinah Shore

    00:08

    Jimmy Stewart

    Hal Kanter on creating The Jimmy Stewart Show

    06:42

    Gloria Swanson

    Hal Kanter on Gloria Swanson and Gary Cooper appearing as a guest-stars on The Ed Wynn Show

    02:40

    Jack Webb

    Hal Kanter on Jack Webb

    03:14

    Ed Wynn

    Hal Kanter on his very first television writing job on The Ed Wynn Show

    03:09

    Hal Kanter on the production of The Ed Wynn Show, and on phone calls from Fanny Brice

    04:03

    Bud Yorkin

    Hal Kanter on working on The George Gobel Show with Bud Yorkin and Everett Greenbaum

    02:18

    Hal Kanter on Bud Yorkin

    00:21

    Alan Young

    Hal Kanter on writing for "The Alan Young Show" on radio

    05:02

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