"When I first went to New York, Olivia de Havilland gave me $500.  We'd played in summer stock out in California, and  she knew I was coming to New York. The night before I was to go to New York. she invited me over for dinner and said, "take this. When I started someone did that for me, and I'm doing it for you. You can pass that along to somebody."

    About This Interview

    In his four-hour interview, Garry Simpson (1914-2011) discusses directing live demonstrations of early television technology around the country in the 1940s. He talks about directing some of the first televised sporting events, mobile events, and the informational series, Eye Witness. He describes directing and producing Wide Wide World (created by Pat Weaver) and chronicles the period before the war in the 1940s, when Simpson was NBC's only television stage manager. Simpson also details directing Chevrolet Tele-Theater, Mary Kay and Johnny (television's first sitcom), All Star Revue, Ford Festival, and Campbell's Soundstage. He recalls working with performers James Dean, Grace Kelly, Jimmy Durante, Ed Wynn, Jackie Gleason, Jack Carter, and Olivia de Havilland, and recounts leaving his position at NBC to spearhead the formation of Vermont public television. Karen Herman conducted the interview in on October 18, 1999 in Vergennes, VT.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Chapter 1

    On his childhood and early influences; on acting in plays in high school and college; on getting accepted to West Point, but going to Stanford to study theater instead; on getting a scholarship to the Neighborhood Playhouse in New York; on working in experimental television for NBC in the late 1930s

    12:03

    On the first time he heard about television; on the NBC television demonstration at the 1940 New York World's Fair with Burr Tillstrom; on Tillstrom's puppets; on the pavilion at the Fair; on technical challenges with early television; on audience response to the NBC television demonstrations; on directing the demonstrations and becoming the NBC studio stage manager in NY; on directing mobile units

    16:30

    Chapter 2

    On directing mobile units for NBC; on NBC Studio 3-H; on his role as NBC stage manager; on working with nitrate film; on selecting films for television; on showing civil defense films during World War II; on serving as a test engineer for the Navy during the war

    15:10

    On returning to NBC and how TV technology was advanced during the war; on old image orthicon cameras

    04:29

    On post-war programs he directed - Chevrolet Tele-Theater; on directing Grace Kelly, Jack Lemmon, James Dean, and Gertrude Berg

    09:29

    Chapter 3

    On directing actors Chevrolet Tele-Theater; on early makeup for television and the intense lighting; on covering the Joe Louis- Billy Conn fight in NY and Rocky Graziano's fights

    14:20

    On covering Jackie Robinson's first televised game; on directing sports; on political coverage; on covering President Truman and President Eisenhower; on the documentary series Eye Witness, and in particular an episode which featured TV pioneer Vladimir Zworykin; on the low budget variety series Television Screen Magazine

    14:45

    Chapter 4

    On directing Paris Cavalcade of Fashion; on directing inaugural broadcasts from Boston and Washington, D.C. (before coaxial cable connected cities); on directing Barney Blake, Police Reporter; on Red Channels and advertiser control over early TV programs

    12:37

    On directing the sitcom Mary Kay and Johnny; on directing Macbeth for NBC- considered NBC's first "spectacular"; on working with NBC's Pat Weaver; on changing the look of the original Tonight Show; on directing Jimmy Durante, Ed Wynn, Johnny Carson, and Danny Thomas on Four Star Revue

    16:11

    Chapter 5

    On directing Four Star Revue; on seeing Jimmy Durante's last show in Las Vegas; on directing Jimmy Durante in Four Star Revue; on working with Ed Wynn and Jackie Gleason

    21:02

    On directing Jack Carson on Four Star Revue; on live television mishaps and a motorcyclist getting killed during a rehearsal

    03:51

    Chapter 6

    On directing the Ford Festival; on Armstrong Circle Theatre; on working on Campbell's Summer Soundstage; on directing The World of Mr. Sweeney

    17:02

    On innovate shots he directed on Wide Wide World; on Robert Frost and Frank Lloyd Wright appearing on Wide Wide World; on directing Kitty Foyle

    11:55

    Chapter 7

    On directing Tic Tac Doug h; on his preference for directing dramas; on working in videotape and how color affected television production; on getting fired from NBC in 1958; on directing commercials and directing Breck Golden Showcase for CBS in 1962;

    13:05

    On becoming Director of Programming for Vermont PBS; on staying in touch with friends from NBC; on his demeanor as a director on set and working with writers

    15:09

    Chapter 8

    On a picture of Sarah Bernhardt; on advice to an aspiring director; on how acting informed his directing; on what he believes represents the best of television; on Olivia de Havilland being somewhat of a mentor to him; on how he'd like to be remembered

    08:56

    On people with whom he's worked: Morey Amsterdam, Fred Coe, James Dean, David and Robert Sarnoff, Tony Randall, Lorne Green, Roger Muir and Bob Keeshan; on his wife, Kathleen

    19:12

    B-roll of pictures from his career: on NBC stages and at the 1977 Emmy Awards

    00:31

    Armstrong Circle Theatre

    Garry Simpson on working on Armstrong Circle Theatre

    03:37

    Barney Blake, Police Reporter

    Garry Simpson on directing Barney Blake, Police Reporter

    02:50

    Breck Golden Showcase, The

    Garry Simpson on directing Breck Golden Showcase for CBS in 1962

    02:54

    Campbell Playhouse, The

    Garry Simpson on working on Campbell's Summer Soundstage

    01:41

    Garry Simpson on James Dean

    04:58

    Chevrolet Tele-Theater aka Chevrolet on Broadway

    Garry Simpson on directing Chevrolet Tele-Theater

    09:29

    Garry Simpson on directing actors on Chevrolet Tele-Theater

    02:51

    Eye Witness (1947-48)

    Director Garry Simpson on the documentary series Eye Witness, and in particular an episode which featured TV pioneer Vladimir Zworykin

    05:27

    Ford Festival

    Garry Simpson on directing the Ford Festival

    07:59

    Four Star Playhouse

    Garry Simpson on directing Four Star Revue

    03:05

    Garry Simpson on directing Four Star Revue

    03:56

    Garry Simpson on directing Jimmy Durante, Ed Wynn, and Jackie Gleason on Four Star Revue

    16:48

    Kitty Foyle

    Garry Simpson on directing Kitty Foyle

    01:50

    Kukla, Fran & Ollie

    Garry Simpson on the NBC television demonstration at the 1940 New York World's Fair with Burr Tillstrom

    03:13

    Mary Kay and Johnny

    Garry Simpson on directing Mary Kay and Johnny

    03:14

    Philco-Goodyear Television Playhouse

    Garry Simpson on directing Melvyn Douglas on an episode of Philco Television Playhouse

    00:59

    Philco-Goodyear Television Playhouse: "Macbeth"

    Garry Simpson on directing Macbeth for NBC- considered NBC's first "spectacular"

    05:16

    Television Screen Magazine

    Director Garry Simpson on the low budget variety series Television Screen Magazine

    00:41

    Tic Tac Dough

    Garry Simpson on directing Tic Tac Doug h

    01:36

    Tonight Starring Jack Paar aka The Jack Paar Show

    Garry Simpson on changing the look of the original Tonight Show

    01:41

    Wide Wide World

    Garry Simpson on directing Wide Wide World

    10:05

    World of Mr. Sweeney, The

    Garry Simpson on directing The World of Mr. Sweeney

    03:45

    Dwight D. Eisenhower

    Garry Simpson on covering President Eisenhower

    00:51

    Emmy Awards

    Garry Simpson on winning an Emmy at the 1977 Emmys

    00:20

    Harry S. Truman

    Garry Simpson on covering President Truman

    00:41

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Garry Simpson on serving in the Navy as a test engineer

    01:41

    Garry Simpson on showing civil defense films during World War II and NBC not broadcasting television during the war after 1942

    03:21

    Hollywood Blacklist

    Garry Simpson on Red Channels and advertiser control over early TV programs

    02:53

    Memorable Moments on Television

    Garry Simpson on Frank Lloyd Wright appearing on Wide Wide World

    01:52

    Technological Innovation

    Garry Simpson on the evolving technology for early experimental television

    00:54

    Garry Simpson on working in videotape and how color affected television production

    03:09

    TV's Golden Age (1940s & '50s)

    Garry Simpson on broadcast standards for early television

    00:48

    Garry Simpson on directing Jimmy Durante, Ed Wynn, and Jackie Gleason on Four Star Revue

    16:48

    War

    Garry Simpson on serving in the Navy as a test engineer

    01:41

    Garry Simpson on showing civil defense films during World War II and NBC not broadcasting television during the war after 1942

    03:21

    World War II

    Garry Simpson on serving in the Navy as a test engineer

    01:41

    Garry Simpson on showing civil defense films during World War II and NBC not broadcasting television during the war after 1942

    03:21

    Directors

    Garry Simpson on directing the NBC television demonstrations at the 1940 New York World's Fair and directing in the studio and for mobile units

    03:44

    Garry Simpson on directing mobile units for NBC

    03:40

    Garry Simpson on directing actors on Chevrolet Tele-Theater

    01:28

    Garry Simpson on his demeanor as a director on set, working with writers, and

    03:58

    Classic Anthology Series

    Garry Simpson on directing Chevrolet Tele-Theater

    09:29

    Comedy Series

    Garry Simpson on directing Mary Kay and Johnny

    03:14

    Drama Series

    Garry Simpson on directing Breck Golden Showcase for CBS in 1962

    02:54

    Game Shows

    Garry Simpson on directing Tic Tac Doug h

    01:36

    Music Shows & Variety Shows/Specials

    Garry Simpson on directing Macbeth for NBC- considered NBC's first "spectacular"

    05:16

    Garry Simpson on directing Four Star Revue

    03:05

    Garry Simpson on directing Jimmy Durante, Ed Wynn, and Jackie Gleason on Four Star Revue

    16:48

    Garry Simpson on directing the Ford Festival

    07:59

    News and Documentary

    Garry Simpson on directing Wide Wide World

    10:05

    Sports

    Garry Simpson on covering the Joe Louis- Billy Conn fight in NY and Rocky Graziano's fights

    02:03

    Garry Simpson on covering Jackie Robinson's first televised game

    01:39

    Garry Simpson on how he called the shots for sports

    02:04

    Morey Amsterdam

    Garry Simpson on Morey Amsterdam

    00:33

    Tallulah Bankhead

    Garry Simpson on directing Tallulah Bankhead on Chevrolet Tele-Theater

    01:14

    Gertrude Berg

    Garry Simpson on directing Gertrude Berg

    01:57

    John Carradine

    Garry Simpson on directing Macbeth for NBC- considered NBC's first "spectacular"

    05:16

    Johnny Carson

    Garry Simpson on directing Four Star Revue

    03:05

    Jack Carson

    Garry Simpson on working with Jack Carson

    00:53

    Fred Coe

    Garry Simpson on Fred Coe

    00:53

    James Dean

    Garry Simpson on directing James Dean

    00:41

    Garry Simpson on James Dean

    04:58

    Melvyn Douglas

    Garry Simpson on directing Melvyn Douglas on an episode of Philco Television Playhouse

    00:59

    Jimmy Durante

    Garry Simpson on directing Four Star Revue

    03:05

    Garry Simpson on seeing Jimmy Durante's last show in Las Vegas

    04:09

    Garry Simpson on directing Jimmy Durante in Four Star Revue

    03:12

    Garry Simpson on directing Jimmy Durante in Four Star Revue

    00:29

    Dwight D. Eisenhower

    Garry Simpson on covering President Eisenhower

    00:51

    Jackie Gleason

    Garry Simpson on working with Jackie Gleason

    06:20

    Lorne Greene

    Garry Simpson on Lorne Green

    02:05

    Olivia de Havilland

    Garry Simpson on Olivia de Havilland being somewhat of a mentor to him

    01:25

    Arthur Hungerford

    Garry Simpson on his role as NBC stage manager

    02:33

    Garry Simpson on Arthur Hungerford's Metropolitan Educational Television

    00:47

    Bob Keeshan

    Garry Simpson on Bob Keeshan

    00:47

    Grace Kelly

    Garry Simpson on directing Grace Kelly on Chevrolet Tele-Theater

    01:15

    Jack Lemmon

    Garry Simpson on directing Jack Lemmon on Chevrolet Tele-Theater

    00:04

    Garry Simpson on directing Jack Lemmon

    00:32

    Paul Mooney

    Garry Simpson on Paul Mooney forgetting his lines on Chevrolet Tele-Theater

    01:23

    E. Roger Muir

    Garry Simpson on Roger Muir

    02:28

    Tony Randall

    Garry Simpson on Tony Randall

    01:06

    David Sarnoff

    Garry Simpson on David Sarnoff and his son, Robert

    02:33

    Dick Smith

    Garry Simpson on makeup for early television - Dick Smith's work on early anthologies

    02:40

    Johnny Stearns

    Garry Simpson on directing Johnny Stearns in Mary Kay and Johnny

    03:14

    Mary Kay Stearns

    Garry Simpson on directing Mary Kay Stearns in Mary Kay and Johnny

    03:14

    Danny Thomas

    Garry Simpson on directing Four Star Revue

    03:05

    Burr Tillstrom

    Garry Simpson on the NBC television demonstration at the 1940 New York World's Fair with Burr Tillstrom

    03:13

    Arturo Toscanini

    Garry Simpson on directing the Ford Festival with Toscanini's symphony

    03:20

    Harry S. Truman

    Garry Simpson on covering President Truman

    00:41

    Sylvester L. "Pat" Weaver

    Garry Simpson on working with NBC's Pat Weaver

    02:55

    Garry Simpson on directing Wide Wide World

    10:05

    Frank Lloyd Wright

    Garry Simpson on Frank Lloyd Wright appearing on Wide Wide World

    01:52

    Ed Wynn

    Garry Simpson on directing Four Star Revue

    03:05

    Garry Simpson on working with Ed Wynn

    02:48

    Garry Simpson on working with Ed Wynn on Four Star Revue

    02:29

    Vladimir Zworykin

    Director Garry Simpson on the documentary series Eye Witness, and in particular an episode which featured TV pioneer Vladimir Zworykin

    05:50

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