"CBS represented a forward-looking, progressive, and innovative point of view. The reason it did is William S. Paley and Frank Stanton. Paley said, 'We are the Tiffany network,' and he really thought so. And we tried to make it that."

    About This Interview

    In his three-hour interview, Louis Dorfsman (1918-2008) talks about his earliest experiences in his field, including being an assistant for Display Guild, which produced numerous exhibits for the 1939 World's Fair. He describes his long association with CBS, where he began as a staff director in the art department in 1946. He talks about his legendary work in the 1950s for CBS radio, during that medium's waning days. He recalls his eventual move to television and becoming the director of design for CBS, Inc. He recounts his influential work at CBS in print and television advertising, and his pioneering use of typography. Dorfsman details the erection of Black Rock, CBS's headquarters on 52nd Street, and his work on the interior of the building, including his cafeteria wall collage. He outlines the fall television season campaigns at CBS and his well-known campaigns for shows including The Waltons, which helped boost its ratings. He speaks of his design of two books for CBS, Field of Vision (1962) on football, and a commemorative book on the 1969 moon landing. Ron Simon conducted the interview on May 15, 2000 in New York, NY.

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    Chapter 1

    On his early life and influences; on how the Great Depression affected his family

    06:30

    On joining the Army during World War II; on running a design studio after World War II

    21:46

    Chapter 2

    On CBS art director William Golden; on the design on the CBS eye logo; on meeting CBS President Frank Stanton and being hired at CBS

    10:51

    On becoming the top art director for CBS Radio advertising; on why he enjoyed being in the advertising department at CBS Radio; on working on CBS Radio's "Busy Market" campaign and designing the CBS Radio "Microphone Ad"

    19:03

    Chapter 3

    On seeing television at the 1939 World's Fair and the development of color television; on leaving CBS Radio to work for CBS Television as art director at the behest of Louis G. Cowan; on his duties as Art Director for CBS and working with Frank Stanton

    11:06

    On his style as Art Director for CBS; on the use of words and pictures in an ad and on placing trade ads in "The New York Times"; on the Hollywood Blacklist

    10:13

    On dealing with the higher ups at CBS including Frank Stanton, William S. Paley, and James T. Aubrey and creating a book about football on CBS

    09:33

    Chapter 4

    On promoting news coverage as Art Director for CBS advertising and on working with Fred Friendly; on Walter Cronkite appearing on The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    17:12

    On being Art Director for CBS' ad campaign to save The Waltons with then CBS President Robert Wood

    13:39

    Chapter 5

    On "Field of Vision," the book he wrote about the NFL and on then-NFL commissioner Pete Rozelle; on CBS moving to Black Rock (their headquarter building) at the behest of Frank Stanton; on working with Frank Stanton on the walkway exhibit he created for CBS Black Rock

    16:47

    On his ad campaign capitalizing on Black Rock and on that campaign being killed by William S. Paley; on the signage and decor of CBS Black Rock; on the CBS Corporate typography

    12:43

    Chapter 6

    On creating on-air promos for CBS; on doing a CBS promo using "The Guinness Book of World Records" and on his influence on other networks on-air promotions; on what CBS represented and how Frank Stanton and William S. Paley impacted the image of the network

    11:26

    On how the networks design and art departments have changed over the years; on how he'd like to be remembered; on his peers in the graphic design community, including Saul Bass, and on what set him apart from his peers; on why he stayed with CBS so long

    12:11

    Mary Tyler Moore Show, The

    Louis Dorfsman on Walter Cronkite appearing on The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    11:24

    Waltons, The

    Louis Dorfsman on being Art Director for CBS' ad campaign to save The Waltons with then CBS President Robert Wood

    13:39

    1939-40 World's Fair

    Louis Dorfsman on seeing television at the 1939 World's Fair and the development of color television

    02:31

    Advice

    Louis Dorfsman on his advice to aspiring Art Designers

    01:52

    First Big Break

    Louis Dorfsman on meeting CBS President Frank Stanton and being hired at CBS

    03:06

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Louis Dorfsman on joining the Army during World War II

    06:55

    Louis Dorfsman on seeing television at the 1939 World's Fair and the development of color television

    02:31

    Hollywood Blacklist

    Louis Dorfsman on the Hollywood Blacklist

    01:50

    Industry Crossroads

    Louis Dorfsman on the Hollywood Blacklist

    01:50

    Pivotal Career Moments

    Louis Dorfsman on meeting CBS President Frank Stanton and being hired at CBS

    03:06

    Pop Culture

    Louis Dorfsman on the design of the CBS eye logo

    02:54

    Technological Innovation

    Louis Dorfsman on seeing television at the 1939 World's Fair and the development of color television

    02:31

    Television Industry

    Louis Dorfsman on the Hollywood Blacklist

    01:50

    Louis Dorfsman on how the networks design and art departments have changed over the years

    02:28

    Louis Dorfsman on his advice to aspiring Art Designers

    01:52

    War

    Louis Dorfsman on joining the Army during World War II

    06:55

    World War II

    Louis Dorfsman on joining the Army during World War II

    06:55

    Art Director/Set Decorator

    Louis Dorfsman on his duties as Art Director for CBS and working with Frank Stanton

    03:42

    Louis Dorfsman on his style as Art Director for CBS

    02:14

    Louis Dorfsman on the use of words and pictures in an ad and on placing trade ads in "The New York Times"

    06:06

    Louis Dorfsman on promoting news coverage as Art Director for CBS advertising and on working with Fred Friendly

    05:48

    Louis Dorfsman on his peers in the graphic design community, including Saul Bass, and on what set him apart from his peers

    03:04

    Louis Dorfsman on his advice to aspiring Art Designers

    01:52

    Designers

    Louis Dorfsman on his duties as Art Director for CBS and working with Frank Stanton

    03:42

    Louis Dorfsman on his style as Art Director for CBS

    02:14

    Louis Dorfsman on the use of words and pictures in an ad and on placing trade ads in "The New York Times"

    06:06

    Louis Dorfsman on promoting news coverage as Art Director for CBS advertising and on working with Fred Friendly

    05:48

    Louis Dorfsman on his peers in the graphic design community, including Saul Bass, and on what set him apart from his peers

    03:04

    Louis Dorfsman on his advice to aspiring Art Designers

    01:52

    Comedy Series

    Louis Dorfsman on Walter Cronkite appearing on The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    11:25

    Commercials

    Louis Dorfsman on creating on-air promos for CBS

    04:38

    Drama Series

    Louis Dorfsman on being Art Director for CBS' ad campaign to save The Waltons with then CBS President Robert Wood

    13:39

    Sports

    Louis Dorfsman on dealing with the higher ups at CBS including Frank Stanton, William S. Paley, and James T. Aubrey and creating a book about football on CBS

    09:33

    James T. Aubrey

    Louis Dorfsman on dealing with the higher ups at CBS including Frank Stanton, William S. Paley, and James T. Aubrey and creating a book about football on CBS

    09:33

    Saul Bass

    Louis Dorfsman on his peers in the graphic design community, including Saul Bass, and on what set him apart from his peers

    03:04

    Louis G. Cowan

    Louis Dorfsman on leaving CBS Radio to work for CBS Television as Art Director at the behest of Louis G. Cowan

    04:53

    Walter Cronkite

    Louis Dorfsman on Walter Cronkite appearing on The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    11:25

    Fred Friendly

    Louis Dorfsman on promoting news coverage as Art Director for CBS advertising and on working with Fred Friendly

    05:48

    William S. Paley

    Louis Dorfsman on dealing with the higher ups at CBS including Frank Stanton, William S. Paley, and James T. Aubrey and creating a book about football on CBS

    09:33

    Louis Dorfsman on his ad campaign capitalizing on Black Rock (CBS' headquarter building) and on that campaign being killed by William S. Paley

    05:50

    Louis Dorfsman on what CBS represented and how Frank Stanton and William S. Paley impacted the image of the network

    05:15

    Pete Rozelle

    Louis Dorfsman on "Field of Vision" the book he wrote about the NFL and on then-NFL commissioner Pete Rozelle 

    06:16

    Frank Stanton

    Louis Dorfsman on meeting CBS President Frank Stanton and being hired at CBS

    03:06

    Louis Dorfsman on his duties as Art Director for CBS and working with Frank Stanton

    03:42

    Louis Dorfsman on dealing with the higher ups at CBS including Frank Stanton, William S. Paley, and James T. Aubrey and creating a book about football on CBS

    09:33

    Louis Dorfsman on CBS moving to Black Rock (their headquarter building) at the behest of Frank Stanton

    02:45

    Louis Dorfsman on working with Frank Stanton on the walkway exhibit he created for CBS Black Rock (their headquarter building)

    07:46

    Louis Dorfsman on what CBS represented and how Frank Stanton and William S. Paley impacted the image of the network

    05:15

    Robert D. Wood

    Louis Dorfsman on being Art Director for CBS' ad campaign to save The Waltons with then CBS President Robert Wood

    13:39

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