"Our writing process was probably the exact same process that we stayed with and that all comedy writers stay with. It's the very thing you see in the movies, two guys in a small room, two desks usually jammed together, a very unglamorous, spartan kind of a setting and just talking over each other and trying this, trying that, going backwards and forwards. Very disorganized, yet in its own way methodical and organized."

    About This Interview

    In the half-hour solo portion of his interview, David Pollock talks about his early life and his father, who through a misunderstanding found himself on the Hollywood Blacklist. He describes early television he watched, and his years working on the radio as a writer and broadcaster. He concludes the solo portion of his interview by discussing his teaching career and the book he wrote, Bob and Ray, Keener Than Most Persons.

    In the three-hour joint portion of their interview, David Pollock and Elias Davis detail how they met and began writing together, and discuss their collaborative process which has remained basically the same since they started. They talk about their early years writing comedy bits for KNX Los Angeles radio personalities, which led to their first television gig for The Joey Bishop Show. They speak of going to write for the syndicated, daytime Pat Boone Show, which became The Steve Allen Show the following season. They talk of becoming showrunners for The Steve Allen Show, and recall writing for other variety shows, including The Don Knotts Show, The Glen Campbell Goodtime Hour, and The Carol Burnett Show. Davis and Pollock also discuss writing for several sitcoms, including The New Dick Van Dyke Show, All in the Family, The Mary Tyler Moore Show, and finally M*A*S*H, where they worked on the last few seasons and helped write the finale "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen." They conclude by discussing their time as writers on Frasier and relating their favorite stories about each other. Stephen J. Abramson conducted the interview in a joint venture with the Writers Guild Foundation on January 14, 2015 in Los Angeles, CA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Chapter 1

    On his early life and influences; on his father (who was also a writer) being on the Hollywood Blacklist; on the first time he saw television

    12:01

    On his college education and his early radio career as a writer and broadcaster; on meeting writing partner Elias Davis; on his teaching career and the book he wrote about Bob & Ray (Bob Elliot and Ray Goulding)

    18:59

    Chapter 2

    START OF JOINT INTERVIEW with David Pollock and Elias Davis; on how they met as ushers at CBS; on how they started writing together; on their collaborative process

    14:31

    On their first big break as writers for Pat Buttram on the radio; on writing for Bill Dana as "Jose Jimenez"; on writing comedy for KNX radio in Los Angeles

    09:51

    On going to write for The Joey Bishop Show; on the process of writing for The Joey Bishop Show; on Regis Philbin as announcer of The Joey Bishop Show; on getting help from the Writers Guild and what they learned from writing for The Joey Bishop Show

    21:07

    On going to write for The Pat Boone Show; on going to write for The Steve Allen Show

    11:10

    On writing for sketches versus writing monologue jokes and why they enjoyed writing for The Steve Allen Show; on becoming showrunners for The Steve Allen Show

    11:02

    Chapter 3

    On writing for The Don Knotts Show; on writing for The Glen Campbell Goodtime Hour; on writing for Don Rickles: Alive and Kicking; on writing The Monkees episode "Monkees Race Again"

    14:23

    On writing for The New Dick Van Dyke Show under producer Carl Reiner; on writing for All in the Family; on writing for The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    15:33

    On working with Paddy Chayefsky on Your Place or Mine?; on why Your Place or Mine? didn't work

    12:48

    On writing for The Carol Burnett Show; on various Carol Burnett Show sketches they wrote or participated in writing; on leaving the show after one year

    17:29

    Chapter 4

    On how they came to write for M*A*S*H; on rewriting scripts for M*A*S*H; on the writers' room of the show

    12:09

    On the research that went in to writing stories for M*A*S*H and using military and medical jargon in the scripts; on keeping M*A*S*H fresh; on writing the M*A*S*H final episode "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"; on the legacy of the show and its creator Larry Gelbart

    24:14

    On dealing with writer's block; on their mentors; on creating the show One Big Family starring Danny Thomas; on writing for Frasier

    11:26

    On advice to an aspiring television writer; on their favorite stories about each other; on how they'd like to be remembered

    09:59

    All in the Family

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for All in the Family

    04:35

    Carol Burnett Show, The (1967-78)

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for The Carol Burnett Show

    03:05

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on the process of writing for The Carol Burnett Show

    07:11

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on various Carol Burnett Show sketches they wrote or participated in writing

    02:56

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on leaving The Carol Burnett Show

    04:17

    Don Knotts Show, The

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for The Don Knotts Show

    03:32

    Frasier

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for Frasier

    04:57

    Glen Campbell Goodtime Hour, The

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for The Glen Campbell Goodtime Hour

    05:04

    Joey Bishop Show, The (1967-69)

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on going to write for The Joey Bishop Show

    09:31

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on the process of writing for The Joey Bishop Show

    04:40

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on Regis Philbin as announcer of The Joey Bishop Show

    02:56

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on getting help from the Writers Guild and what they learned from writing for The Joey Bishop Show

    04:00

    M*A*S*H

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on how they came to write for M*A*S*H

    05:17

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on rewriting scripts for M*A*S*H

    03:17

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on the writers' room of M*A*S*H

    03:35

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on the research that went in to writing stories for M*A*S*H and using military and medical jargon in the scripts

    07:25

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on keeping M*A*S*H fresh

    06:42

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing the M*A*S*H final episode "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    03:42

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on the legacy of M*A*S*H and its creator Larry Gelbart

    06:26

    M*A*S*H: "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing the M*A*S*H final episode "Goodbye, Farewell, and Amen"

    03:42

    Mary Tyler Moore Show, The

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    05:35

    Monkees, The

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing The Monkees episode "Monkees Race Again"

    02:38

    New Dick Van Dyke Show, The

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for The New Dick Van Dyke Show under producer Carl Reiner

    05:23

    Steve Allen Show, The (1968-72)

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on going to write for The Steve Allen Show

    06:53

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on becoming showrunners for The Steve Allen Show

    05:22

    Advice

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on advice to an aspiring television writer

    03:05

    Creative Influences and Inspiration

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on their mentors

    02:03

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on the legacy of M*A*S*H and its creator Larry Gelbart

    06:26

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on the legacy of M*A*S*H and its creator Larry Gelbart

    06:26

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on their mentors

    02:03

    First Big Break

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on their first big break as writers for Pat Buttram on the radio

    03:12

    Hollywood Blacklist

    David Pollock on his father being on the Hollywood Blacklist

    04:02

    Industry Crossroads

    David Pollock on his father being on the Hollywood Blacklist

    04:02

    Pivotal Career Moments

    David Pollock on meeting writing partner Elias Davis

    03:47

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on their first big break as writers for Pat Buttram on the radio

    03:12

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on their mentors

    02:03

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on the legacy of M*A*S*H and its creator Larry Gelbart

    06:26

    Television Industry

    David Pollock on his father being on the Hollywood Blacklist

    04:02

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on advice to an aspiring television writer

    03:05

    Writers

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on their collaborative process

    02:36

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on dealing with writer's block

    01:42

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on advice to an aspiring television writer

    03:05

    Comedy Series

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for The New Dick Van Dyke Show under producer Carl Reiner

    05:23

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing The Monkees episode "Monkees Race Again"

    02:38

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for All in the Family

    04:35

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    05:35

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on creating the show One Big Family starring Danny Thomas

    02:44

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for Frasier

    04:57

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for M*A*S*H

    36:23

    Music Shows & Variety Shows/Specials

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for The Don Knotts Show

    03:32

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for The Glen Campbell Goodtime Hour

    05:04

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for The Carol Burnett Show

    17:29

    Talk Shows

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for The Joey Bishop Show

    17:07

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for The Pat Boone Show

    04:17

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for and showrunning The Steve Allen Show

    17:54

    Steve Allen

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on going to write for The Steve Allen Show

    06:53

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on becoming showrunners for The Steve Allen Show

    05:22

    Joey Bishop

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on going to write for The Joey Bishop Show

    09:31

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on the process of writing for The Joey Bishop Show

    04:40

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on Regis Philbin as announcer of The Joey Bishop Show

    02:56

    Pat Boone

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on going to write for The Pat Boone Show

    04:17

    Carol Burnett

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for The Carol Burnett Show

    03:04

    Pat Buttram

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on their first big break as writers for Pat Buttram on the radio

    03:13

    Glen Campbell

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for The Glen Campbell Goodtime Hour

    05:04

    Paddy Chayefsky

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on working with Paddy Chayefsky on Your Place or Mine?

    09:54

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on why Your Place or Mine? their collaboration with Paddy Chayefsky, didn't work

    02:55

    Bill Dana

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for Bill Dana as "Jose Jimenez"

    02:17

    Bob Elliott

    David Pollock on his book about Bob & Ray (Bob Elliot and Ray Goulding)

    03:50

    Larry Gelbart

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on the legacy of M*A*S*H and its creator Larry Gelbart

    06:26

    Ray Goulding

    David Pollock on his book about Bob & Ray (Bob Elliot and Ray Goulding)

    03:50

    Don Knotts

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for The Don Knotts Show

    03:32

    Shari Lewis

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for Shari Lewis and "Lambchop"

    01:24

    Mary Tyler Moore

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for The Mary Tyler Moore Show

    05:35

    Regis Philbin

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on Regis Philbin as announcer of The Joey Bishop Show

    02:56

    Carl Reiner

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for The New Dick Van Dyke Show under producer Carl Reiner

    05:22

    Danny Thomas

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on creating the show One Big Family starring Danny Thomas

    02:44

    Dick Van Dyke

    Elias Davis and David Pollock on writing for The New Dick Van Dyke Show under producer Carl Reiner

    05:22

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