"Laughter is an intravenous -- instead of sticking it in the vein, causing people to think while they're laughing, it's the intravenous of messaging through laughter."

    About This Interview

    In his one-hour interview for the American Comedy Archives at Emerson College, Norman Lear (1922-2023) talks about his early years at Emerson College and his time in the television business, and recalls some significant lessons and memories throughout his career. He talks in depth about the healing power of laughter and about how comedy is an excellent vehicle for social change. He discusses some of his career highs and lows, and talks about his experience working on shows such as All in the Family, The Colgate Comedy Hour, and The Martha Raye Show. He also gives advice on how to maintain creative integrity in the business-savvy television industry, and comments on the rarity of true talent. Lear speaks about how a sense of humor can be sharpened but not acquired, and talks about how he gets inspiration for the comedy in his shows and characters. Bill Dana and Jenni Matz conducted the interview on May 26, 2005 in Los Angeles, CA. 

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Norman Lear on Bill Dana writing the "Sammy's Visit" episode of All in the Family -- and the script not being submitted for an Emmy award for Bill Dana

    03:46
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    Norman Lear on how a storyline on Good Times came about and how television can be a teaching tool

    00:53
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    Norman Lear on controversial moments on The Martha Raye Show and why the show got canceled

    03:53
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    Norman Lear on comedy as a tool for survival and laughter as a way to get messages across

    01:43
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    Norman Lear on why he decided to pursue a career in television and the joys of working in television

    01:41
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    Norman Lear on advice to those getting into comedy

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    Chapter 1

    On attending Emerson College; on where he was on December 7, 1941 and on his time in the army; on comedy as a tool for survival and laughter as a way to get messages across; on why he decided to pursue a career in television and the joys of working in TV; on spreading messages in the television he's done and on not speaking up about something on The Colgate Comedy Hour; on the writing teams on early television and early writing staffs; on he and Bill Dana's early years getting to know each other, socializing with Imogene Coca and others; on Danny Thomas and David Susskind being instrumental to the start of his career

    19:29

    On he and Ed Simmons beginning their career writing for Ford Star Revue; on controversial moments on The Martha Raye Show; on the importance of knowing comedy legends who came before you; on a party the night The Colgate Comedy Hour concluded in New York; on Bill Dana writing the "Sammy's Visit" episode of All in the Family -- and the script not being submitted for an Emmy award for Bill Dana; on maintaining creative integrity while navigating the business of television; on choosing his battles with Standards & Practices and sponsors on All in the Family; on crafting who the characters were in All in the Family; on comparisons between a controversial kiss on The Martha Raye Show and the "Sammy's Visit" episode of All in the Family

    18:14

    On his creative process; on the healing power of comedy and laughter; on the incident that led to Norman Cousins writing Anatomy of an Illness; on exploring tough themes through comedy and contributing to PSAs about voting

    09:14

    On the business of show business; on whether good writing can be taught; on advice to those getting into comedy; on what makes people laugh; on being happy with his career -- and it was worth it; on needing more laughter today; on what he's most proud of; on a piece of wisdom - the jacket with two pockets

    13:51

    All in the Family

    Norman Lear on Bill Dana writing the "Sammy's Visit" episode of All in the Family -- and the script not being submitted for an Emmy award for Bill Dana

    03:46

    Norman Lear on choosing his battles with Standards & Practices and sponsors on All in the Family

    01:20

    Norman Lear on crafting who the characters were in All in the Family

    01:01

    Norman Lear on comparisons between a controversial kiss on The Martha Raye Show and the "Sammy's Visit" episode of All in the Family

    00:32

    Norman Lear on educational tools learned when exploring the storyline of Edith Bunker's almost-rape on All in the Family

    00:30

    All in the Family: "Sammy's Visit"

    Norman Lear on Bill Dana writing the "Sammy's Visit" episode of All in the Family -- and the script not being submitted for an Emmy award for Bill Dana

    03:46

    Norman Lear on comparisons between a controversial kiss on The Martha Raye Show and the "Sammy's Visit" episode of All in the Family

    00:32

    Colgate Comedy Hour, The

    Norman Lear on spreading messages in the television he's done and on not speaking up about something on The Colgate Comedy Hour

    02:39

    Norman Lear on a party the night The Colgate Comedy Hour concluded in New York

    02:00

    Norman Lear on originally being unhappy when Jerry Lewis broke the fourth wall on The Colgate Comedy Hour

    01:42

    Ford Star Revue

    Norman Lear on he and Ed Simmons beginning their career writing for Ford Star Revue

    00:56

    Good Times

    Norman Lear on how a storyline on Good Times came about and how television can be a teaching tool

    00:53

    Martha Raye Show, The

    Norman Lear on the writing teams on early television and early writing staffs

    01:05

    Norman Lear on controversial moments on The Martha Raye Show and why the show got canceled

    03:53

    Norman Lear on comparisons between a controversial kiss on The Martha Raye Show and the "Sammy's Visit" episode of All in the Family

    00:32

    Advertising and Sponsorship

    Norman Lear on controversial moments on The Martha Raye Show and why the show got canceled

    03:53

    Norman Lear on choosing his battles with Standards & Practices and sponsors on All in the Family

    01:20

    Advice

    Norman Lear on advice to those getting into comedy

    01:56

    Censorship / Standards & Practices

    Norman Lear on choosing his battles with Standards & Practices and sponsors on All in the Family

    01:20

    Emmy Awards

    Norman Lear on Bill Dana writing the "Sammy's Visit" episode of All in the Family -- and the script not being submitted for an Emmy award for Bill Dana

    03:46

    First Big Break

    Norman Lear on he and Ed Simmons beginning their career writing for Ford Star Revue

    00:56

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Norman Lear on where he was on December 7, 1941 and on his time in the army

    03:10

    Memorable Moments on Television

    Norman Lear on Bill Dana writing the "Sammy's Visit" episode of All in the Family -- and the script not being submitted for an Emmy award for Bill Dana

    03:46

    Pivotal Career Moments

    Norman Lear on he and Ed Simmons beginning their career writing for Ford Star Revue

    00:56

    Television Industry

    Norman Lear on why he decided to pursue a career in television and the joys of working in television

    01:41

    Norman Lear on controversial moments on The Martha Raye Show and why the show got canceled

    03:53

    Norman Lear on maintaining creative integrity while navigating the business of television

    02:49

    Norman Lear on choosing his battles with Standards & Practices and sponsors on All in the Family

    01:20

    Norman Lear on the business of show business

    03:24

    Norman Lear on advice to those getting into comedy

    01:56

    War

    Norman Lear on where he was on December 7, 1941 and on his time in the army

    03:10

    We Laughed

    Norman Lear on Bill Dana writing the "Sammy's Visit" episode of All in the Family -- and the script not being submitted for an Emmy award for Bill Dana

    03:46

    World War II

    Norman Lear on where he was on December 7, 1941 and on his time in the army

    03:10

    Writers

    Norman Lear on his creative process

    05:22

    Norman Lear on whether good writing can be taught

    01:41

    Norman Lear on advice to those getting into comedy

    01:55

    Norman Lear on what makes people laugh

    00:58

    Comedy Series

    Norman Lear on Bill Dana writing the "Sammy's Visit" episode of All in the Family -- and the script not being submitted for an Emmy award for Bill Dana

    03:46

    Norman Lear on choosing his battles with Standards & Practices and sponsors on All in the Family and on crafting the characters

    02:21

    Norman Lear on how storylines on Good Times and All in the Family came about and how television can be a teaching tool

    01:23

    Music Shows & Variety Shows/Specials

    Norman Lear on spreading messages in the television he's done and on not speaking up about something on The Colgate Comedy Hour

    02:39

    Norman Lear on the writing teams on early television and early writing staffs

    01:05

    Norman Lear on he and Ed Simmons beginning their career writing for Ford Star Revue

    00:56

    Norman Lear on controversial moments on The Martha Raye Show and why the show got canceled

    03:53

    Norman Lear on originally being unhappy when Jerry Lewis broke the fourth wall on The Colgate Comedy Hour

    01:42

    Sid Caesar

    Norman Lear on tense moments between Nick Condos and Sid Caesar

    02:44

    Imogene Coca

    Norman Lear on he and Bill Dana's early years getting to know each other, socializing with Imogene Coca and others

    04:14

    Norman Cousins

    Norman Lear and Bill Dana on the incident that led to Norman Cousins writing Anatomy of an Illness

    01:29

    Bill Dana

    Norman Lear on Bill Dana running errands for The Martha Raye Show and on Dana and Lear's early years getting to know each other

    05:35

    Norman Lear on Bill Dana writing the "Sammy's Visit" episode of All in the Family -- and the script not being submitted for an Emmy award for Bill Dana

    03:47

    Sammy Davis, Jr.

    Norman Lear on Bill Dana writing the "Sammy's Visit" episode of All in the Family -- and the script not being submitted for an Emmy award for Bill Dana

    03:47

    David Geffen

    Norman Lear on a story David Geffen told him

    00:25

    Douglas Fairbanks, Jr

    Norman Lear on a controversial moment on The Martha Raye Show

    02:32

    Jerry Lewis

    Norman Lear on spreading messages in the television he's done and on not speaking up about something on The Colgate Comedy Hour

    02:39

    Jerry Perenchio

    Norman Lear on the business of show business

    02:10

    Norman Lear on the business of show business and the creativity of Jerry Perenchio

    00:49

    Martha Raye

    Norman Lear on controversial moments on The Martha Raye Show

    03:53

    Charles Revson

    Norman Lear on controversial television moments on The Martha Raye Show

    03:53

    John Rich

    Norman Lear on a party the night The Colgate Comedy Hour concluded in New York

    02:00

    Ed Simmons

    Norman Lear on the writing teams on early television and early writing staffs

    01:05

    Neil Simon

    Norman Lear on the writing teams on early television and early writing staffs

    01:05

    Danny Thomas

    Norman Lear on Danny Thomas and David Susskind being instrumental to the start of his career

    00:52

    Bud Yorkin

    Norman Lear on a party the night The Colgate Comedy Hour concluded in New York

    02:00

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