“The best thing is when it finally happens. You come up with a great concept or idea or a one liner, and say, ‘Wow, that’s fantastic.’ Just writing something really great, and realizing ‘Hey, this is special.’”

    About This Interview

    In his two-and-a-half-hour interview, Arnie Kogen talks about his early life and writing for MAD Magazine starting in 1959. He recalls early gigs writing for the nightclub acts of Jackie Vernon and Steve Lawrence and Eydie Gorme, and later being on the writing staff of Candid Camera. He recounts writing for the Golden Globes, for the hosts of the Academy Awards, and for The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson. He chronicles his stint as a writer on The Carol Burnett Show, detailing working with the cast, and in particular Tim Conway, and writing several well-known and recurring sketches for the series. He speaks of writing on several sitcoms, including The Mary Tyler Moore Show, The New Dick Van Dyke Show, The Bob Newhart Show, and the four years he spent on the writing staff of Newhart. He discusses writing for the 1970s variety shows Donny & Marie and The Jacksons, and Alan Thicke’s ‘80s talk show Thicke of the Night. He concludes by discussing his writing process, discussing what he likes about writing, and giving advice to aspiring television writers. Stephen J. Abramson conducted the interview in a joint venture with the Writers Guild Foundation on December 12, 2016 in Los Angeles, CA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Chapter 1

    On his early life and influences; on television he watched growing up, and on his college education where he started to write; on writing for "Mad Magazine" and MADtv

    12:37

    On when he first realized he was funny; on when he started to write for comedians like Jackie Vernon and Jack Paar; on writing for Candid Camera and working for Allen Funt; on being hired to write for The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson and on the process of writing for the show

    15:13

    On writing for The Dean Martin Show; on writing for The Funny Side; on writing for the Golden Globes and the Academy Awards

    11:25

    On going to write for The Carol Burnett Show and working with Carol Burnett; on working with Joe Hamilton, the producer of The Carol Burnett Show, and on a typical work week writing for the show; on specific sketches he was involved in writing on The Carol Burnett Show and on writing for Tim Conway

    12:56

    On the cast of The Carol Burnett Show breaking each other up during sketches; on the cast of The Carol Burnett Show; on specific sketches he wrote for The Carol Burnett Show and on the writing process for the show

    06:55

    Chapter 2

    On incorporating guest stars into sketches on The Carol Burnett Show; on teaming with Ray Jessel to write for The Carol Burnett Show; on winning Emmys for the show; on the legacy of The Carol Burnett Show; on writing for Love, American Style

    11:37

    On writing for various series, including The New Dick Van Dyke Show, The Mary Tyler Moore Show, Mary, The Bob Newhart Show, and Newhart; on coming up with ideas for Newhart; on specific episodes of Newhart

    16:56

    On writing for Donny & Marie and The Jacksons; on the decline of the variety show; on writing for Thicke of the Night

    13:13

    On writing for Empty Nest; on writing for various shows in the '90s including The Sinbad Show and The Gary Owens All-Nonsense News Network; on writing for Ace Crawford, Private Eye starring Tom Conway, and for All-American Girl

    17:03

    Chapter 3

    On what he likes about writing and on writing in groups; on continuing to write for "Mad Magazine" and how he juggles it with his television work; on joining the Writers Guild and on his retirement

    05:39

    On how the television industry has changed since he started and on his then-current television favorites; on his mentors, and on his son, Jay Kogen; on advice to an aspiring writer; on career achievements and regrets, and how he'd like to be remembered

    06:37

    Academy Awards, The

    Arnie Kogen on writing for the Golden Globes and the Academy Awards

    03:12

    Ace Crawford, Private Eye

    Arnie Kogen on writing for Ace Crawford, Private Eye and All-American Girl

    02:21

    Bob Newhart Show, The (1972-78)

    Arnie Kogen on writing for The Bob Newhart Show and Newhart

    06:18

    Candid Camera

    Arnie Kogen on writing for Candid Camera and working for Allen Funt

    03:52

    Carol Burnett Show, The (1967-78)

    Arnie Kogen on going to write for The Carol Burnett Show

    02:19

    Arnie Kogen on working with Carol Burnett on The Carol Burnett Show

    02:24

    Arnie Kogen on working with Joe Hamilton, the producer of The Carol Burnett Show, and on a typical work week writing for the show

    01:54

    Arnie Kogen on specific sketches he was involved in writing on The Carol Burnett Show, and on writing for Tim Conway

    06:17

    Arnie Kogen on the cast of The Carol Burnett Show breaking each other up during sketches

    02:09

    Arnie Kogen on the cast of The Carol Burnett Show

    01:37

    Arnie Kogen on specific sketches he wrote for The Carol Burnett Show and on the writing process for the show

    03:05

    Arnie Kogen on incorporating guest stars into sketches on The Carol Burnett Show

    02:29

    Arnie Kogen on teaming with Ray Jessel to write for The Carol Burnett Show

    04:10

    Arnie Kogen on the legacy of The Carol Burnett Show

    01:22

    Arnie Kogen on winning Emmy Awards for his work on The Carol Burnett Show

    01:15

    Dean Martin Show, The

    Arnie Kogen on writing for The Dean Martin Show

    04:51

    Donny & Marie

    Arnie Kogen on writing for Donny & Marie

    06:52

    Emmy Awards, The (Primetime and Daytime)

    Arnie Kogen on winning Emmys for his work on The Carol Burnett Show

    01:15

    Empty Nest

    Arnie Kogen on writing for Empty Nest

    05:37

    Funny Side, The

    Arnie Kogen on writing for The Funny Side

    03:21

    Golden Girls, The

    Arnie Kogen on writing for the Golden Globes and the Academy Awards

    03:12

    Jacksons, The

    Arnie Kogen on writing for The Jacksons, featuring the Jackson family and Michael Jackson

    03:46

    Love, American Style

    Arnie Kogen on writing for Love, American Style

    02:22

    MADtv

    Arnie Kogen on his involvement with MADtv

    01:12

    New Dick Van Dyke Show, The

    Arnie Kogen on writing for The New Dick Van Dyke Show, The Mary Tyler Moore Show, and Mary

    04:20

    Newhart

    Arnie Kogen on writing for The Bob Newhart Show and Newhart

    06:18

    Arnie Kogen on coming up with ideas for Newhart

    03:45

    Arnie Kogen on writing specific episodes of Newhart

    02:32

    Thicke of the Night

    Arnie Kogen on writing for Thicke of the Night, featuring Alan Thicke

    02:35

    Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson, The

    Arnie Kogen on being hired to write for The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson and on the process of writing for the show

    04:40

    Advice

    Arnie Kogen on advice to an aspiring writer

    00:42

    Creative Influences and Inspiration

    Arnie Kogen on his mentors, and on his son, Jay Kogen

    03:07

    Pivotal Career Moments

    Arnie Kogen on his mentors, and on his son, Jay Kogen

    03:07

    Television Industry

    Arnie Kogen on how the television industry has changed since he started and on his then-current television favorites

    01:17

    Arnie Kogen on advice to an aspiring writer

    00:42

    Writers

    Arnie Kogen on his writing process

    05:12

    Arnie Kogen on what he likes about writing, and on writing in groups

    03:00

    Arnie Kogen on continuing to write for "Mad Magazine" and how he juggles it with his television work

    01:28

    Arnie Kogen on joining the Writers Guild and on his retirement

    01:11

    Arnie Kogen on advice to an aspiring writer

    00:42

    Awards Shows

    Arnie Kogen on writing for the Golden Globes and the Academy Awards

    03:13

    Comedy Series

    Arnie Kogen on writing for Candid Camera

    03:52

    Arnie Kogen on writing for Love, American Style

    02:20

    Arnie Kogen on writing for The New Dick Van Dyke Show, The Mary Tyler Moore Show, and Mary

    04:20

    Arnie Kogen on writing for The Bob Newhart Show and Newhart

    12:36

    Arnie Kogen on writing for Empty Nest

    05:37

    Arnie Kogen on writing for various shows in the '90s including The Sinbad Show and The Gary Owens All-Nonsense News Network

    03:48

    Arnie Kogen on writing for Ace Crawford, Private Eye starring Tim Conway, and for All-American Girl

    02:21

    Music Shows & Variety Shows/Specials

    Arnie Kogen on his involvement with MADtv

    01:12

    Arnie Kogen on writing for The Dean Martin Show

    04:51

    Arnie Kogen on going to write for The Carol Burnett Show

    19:53

    Arnie Kogen on writing for The Carol Burnett Show

    09:16

    Arnie Kogen on writing for Donny & Marie

    06:52

    Arnie Kogen on writing for The Jacksons

    03:46

    Talk Shows

    Arnie Kogen on being hired to write for The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson

    04:40

    Arnie Kogen on writing for Thicke of the Night

    02:35

    Carol Burnett

    Arnie Kogen on working with Carol Burnett on The Carol Burnett Show

    04:44

    Johnny Carson

    Arnie Kogen on being hired to write for The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson

    04:40

    Tim Conway

    Arnie Kogen on the cast of The Carol Burnett Show: Tim Conway

    00:26

    Arnie Kogen on writing for Ace Crawford, Private Eye starring Tim Conway, and for All-American Girl

    02:21

    Allen Funt

    Arnie Kogen on writing for Candid Camera and working for Allen Funt

    03:52

    Eydie Gorme

    Arnie Kogen on writing material for Steve Lawrence and Eydie Gorme, and for other entertainers

    03:20

    Joe Hamilton

    Arnie Kogen on working with Joe Hamilton, the producer of The Carol Burnett Show, and on a typical work week writing for the show

    01:54

    Michael Jackson

    Arnie Kogen on writing for The Jacksons, featuring the Jackson family and Michael Jackson

    03:46

    Harvey Korman

    Arnie Kogen on the cast of The Carol Burnett Show: Harvey Korman

    00:23

    Steve Lawrence

    Arnie Kogen on writing material for Steve Lawrence and Eydie Gorme, and for other entertainers

    03:20

    Vicki Lawrence

    Arnie Kogen on the cast of The Carol Burnett Show: Vicki Lawrence

    00:33

    Dean Martin

    Arnie Kogen on writing for The Dean Martin Show

    04:51

    Bob Newhart

    Arnie Kogen on writing for The Bob Newhart Show and Newhart

    12:36

    Donny Osmond

    Arnie Kogen on writing for Donny & Marie starring Donny and Marie Osmond

    06:52

    Marie Osmond

    Arnie Kogen on writing for Donny & Marie starring Donny and Marie Osmond

    06:52

    Alan Thicke

    Arnie Kogen on writing for Thicke of the Night, featuring Alan Thicke

    02:35

    Lyle Waggoner

    Arnie Kogen on the cast of The Carol Burnett Show: Lyle Waggoner

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