"We changed not only the way women are perceived, today you watch television and there are women in the police precinct or women in the hospital, and nobody feels it necessary to explain what they're doing there. Nobody. You don't have to have backstory as to why the woman has that job. They just do. It's accepted. That was not true before 'Cagney & Lacey.'"

    About This Interview

    In the two-and-a-half-hour solo portion of his interview, Barney Rosenzweig describes his entrance into show business at MGM, starting in the mailroom, and shortly thereafter rising through the ranks as a studio publicist. He recounts becoming an associate producer at 20th Century Fox for feature films, and outlines his first television work as a producer on Daniel Boone in the late 1960s. He explains reviving the series in its final seasons, with less emphasis on action and more on contemporary political views. He talks of producing Charlie's Angels, and then details the series with which he is most closely associated: Cagney & Lacey. Rosenzweig describes launching Cagney & Lacey, taking it from a feature film script, to a television movie, and finally to a series. He talks of casting the series, shooting at a downtown Los Angeles warehouse, and the series struggling in the ratings. He then discusses The Trials of Rosie O'Neill, recalling his approach to the series and marrying lead Sharon Gless during the run of the show. He also talks about producing the series Christy and the Cagney & Lacey television movies.

    In the thirty-minute joint portion of their interview, Barney Rosenzweig and Sharon Gless talk about their work together and their personal relationship. Stephen J. Abramson conducted the interviews on October 15, 2008 in North Hollywood, CA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Chapter 1

    On his childhood and early influences; on hobbies as a child and loving to perform; on getting a job in the mailroom at MGM

    21:24

    On his rise as a publicist at MGM; on handling the premiere of "Ben-Hur"; on wanting to become a producer

    06:22

    On the opportunity to become an Associate Producer and subsequently quitting

    07:08

    On taking over as producer of Daniel Boone in its fourth season

    05:08

    On being influenced by the themes of "Easy Rider"; on how he transformed Daniel Boone (by "introverting" the show)

    16:53

    On the short-lived Sons and Daughters

    02:29

    Chapter 2

    On what he learned from Sons and Daughters

    01:26

    On the long road to getting hired as a producer on Charlie's Angels and changes he brought to the show

    10:12

    On the idea for Cagney & Lacey; on the show's journey from movie, to TV movie, to series, and cast changes along the way

    37:59

    On winning the Emmy for Best Drama for Cagney & Lacey; on the core idea behind the show and social issues addressed on the program

    08:35

    Chapter 3

    On Cagney & Lacey's Sharon Gless and Tyne Daly; on how the show changed television

    11:55

    On his goal for The Trials of Rosie O'Neill; on marrying Sharon Gless and how their relationship affected the show

    05:42

    On reuniting with Tyne Daly on Christy

    04:23

    On four Cagney & Lacey reunion movies and trying to make a deal with Orion to own the whole run of the series

    05:49

    On his book, Cagney & Lacey And Me and the DVD release of Cagney & Lacey

    05:07

    On advice to aspiring producers and how he'd like to be remembered

    02:36

    Chapter 4

    START OF JOINT INTERVIEW WITH SHARON GLESS: On how they met and casting Sharon Gless as the third and final "Cagney" on Cagney & Lacey; on fighting with each other on set

    10:51

    On interacting with the fans of Cagney & Lacey and Queer as Folk

    09:35

    On developing the story arc about alcoholism on Cagney & Lacey

    05:36

    On not living in Los Angeles; on their professional relationship and how they fell in love; on their favorite stories about each other

    11:55

    Cagney & Lacey

    Barney Rosenzweig on the idea for Cagney & Lacey

    01:42

    Barney Rosenzweig on the first steps of Cagney & Lacey becoming a TV movie rather than a motion picture

    01:31

    Barney Rosenzweig on Barbara Avedon and Barbara Corday writing the script for the movie version of Cagney & Lacey

    02:16

    Barney Rosenzweig on Cagney & Lacey moving to television and moving shooting from Toronto to Los Angeles

    14:12

    Barney Rosenzweig on the cast of the first episodes of the TV series Cagney & Lacey and cast changes after the first six episodes

    07:21

    Barney Rosenzweig on Cagney & Lacey getting cancelled and coming back as a 10pm, not 9pm show, and the publicity tour for the show

    06:54

    Barney Rosenzweig on how Sharon Gless replaced Meg Foster as "Cagney" on Cagney & Lacey

    04:03

    Barney Rosenzweig on winning an Emmy for best drama series for Cagney & Lacey

    02:21

    Barney Rosenzweig on what Cagney & Lacey was about at its core

    03:41

    Barney Rosenzweig on addressing social issues on Cagney & Lacey

    02:33

    Barney Rosenzweig on Cagney & Lacey's Sharon Gless and Tyne Daly

    08:56

    Barney Rosenzweig on the legacy of Cagney & Lacey and what it did for the portrayal of women on television; on how it changed television

    02:59

    Barney Rosenzweig on four Cagney & Lacey reunion movies and trying to make a deal with Orion to own the whole run of the series

    05:49

    Barney Rosenzweig on not being a "hyphenate," but on primarily being the producer of Cagney & Lacey

    00:40

    Sharon Gless and Barney Rosenzweig on making last minute tweaks ("writing with an eraser") on Cagney & Lacey

    02:09

    Sharon Gless on getting letters from female cops who went into the field because of Cagney & Lacey

    01:09

    Barney Rosenzweig and Sharon Gless on developing the theme of alcoholism for "Christine Cagney" and her father on Cagney & Lacey

    05:36

    Charlie's Angels

    Barney Rosenzweig on the long road to getting hired on Charlie's Angels and changes he brought to the show

    08:22

    Barney Rosenzweig on the stars of Charlie's Angels

    01:50

    Daniel Boone

    Barney Rosenzweig on disliking Daniel Boone in its first three seasons

    01:29

    Barney Rosenzweig on taking over as producer of Daniel Boone in its fourth season

    05:08

    Barney Rosenzweig on why he's proud of his work on Daniel Boone

    02:12

    Barney Rosenzweig on how he transformed Daniel Boone in its fourth season (by "introverting" the show)

    10:52

    Queer as Folk

    Sharon Gless on being hugged by fans, and the impact of Queer as Folk

    01:41

    Sons and Daughters (1974)

    Barney Rosenzweig on the short-lived Sons and Daughters

    02:29

    Barney Rosenzweig on what he learned from the short-lived Sons and Daughters

    00:31

    Trials of Rosie O'Neill, The

    Barney Rosenzweig on his goal for The Trials of Rosie O'Neill

    01:40

    Barney Rosenzweig on marrying Sharon Gless and how their relationship affected The Trials of Rosie O'Neill

    03:53

    Classic TV Series Episodes

    Barney Rosenzweig on the cast of the first episodes of the TV series Cagney & Lacey and cast changes after the first six episodes

    07:21

    Creative Influences and Inspiration

    Barney Rosenzweig on being influenced by the themes of "Easy Rider"

    02:44

    Drama

    Sharon Gless and Barney Rosenzweig on developing the theme of alcoholism for "Christine Cagney" and her father on Cagney and Lacey

    05:36

    Emmy Awards

    Barney Rosenzweig on winning an Emmy for Cagney & Lacey

    02:21

    Sharon Gless and Barney Rosenzweig on Gless "finally" winning an Emmy for Cagney & Lacey

    02:22

    Fame and Celebrity

    Sharon Gless and Barney Rosenzweig on getting recognized by and interacting with fans

    04:14

    Sharon Gless on being hugged by fans, and the impact of Queer as Folk

    01:41

    Pivotal Career Moments

    Barney Rosenzweig on being influenced by the themes of "Easy Rider"

    02:44

    Pop Culture

    Barney Rosenzweig on the cast of the first episodes of the TV series Cagney & Lacey and cast changes after the first six episodes

    07:21

    Representation on Television

    Barney Rosenzweig on giving Aaron Spelling criticisms of Charlie's Angels and wanting to incorporate the themes of the Women's Movement into the show

    04:53

    Barney Rosenzweig on the idea for Cagney & Lacey

    01:42

    Barney Rosenzweig on what Cagney & Lacey was about at its core

    03:41

    Barney Rosenzweig on the legacy of Cagney & Lacey and what it did for the portrayal of women on television

    01:55

    Television Industry

    Barney Rosenzweig on trying to make a deal with Orion to own the whole run of Cagney & Lacey

    02:18

    Barney Rosenzweig on advice to aspiring producers and how the business has changed

    01:37

    Sharon Gless and Barney Rosenzweig on getting recognized by and interacting with fans

    04:14

    Sharon Gless on being hugged by fans, and the impact of Queer as Folk

    01:41

    Women

    Barney Rosenzweig on giving Aaron Spelling criticisms of Charlie's Angels and wanting to incorporate the themes of the Women's Movement into the show

    04:53

    Barney Rosenzweig on the idea for Cagney & Lacey

    01:42

    Barney Rosenzweig on what Cagney & Lacey was about at its core

    03:41

    Barney Rosenzweig on the legacy of Cagney & Lacey and what it did for the portrayal of women on television

    01:55

    Producers

    Barney Rosenzweig on wanting to become a producer and leave publicity at MGM

    00:47

    Barney Rosenzweig on advice to aspiring producers and how the business has changed

    01:37

    Barney Rosenzweig on advice to aspiring producers and how the business has changed

    01:37

    Barney Rosenzweig on not being a "hyphenate," but on primarily being the producer of Cagney & Lacey

    00:40

    Barney Rosenzweig on making last minute tweaks to the show

    02:09

    Barney Rosenzweig and Sharon Gless on developing the theme of alcoholism for "Christine Cagney" and her father on Cagney & Lacey

    05:36

    Adventure/Espionage Series

    Barney Rosenzweig on the long road to getting hired on Charlie's Angels and changes he brought to the show

    08:22

    Barney Rosenzweig on the long road to getting hired on Charlie's Angels and changes he brought to the show

    08:22

    Cop/Detective/Mystery Series

    Barney Rosenzweig on the idea for and several cast changes for Cagney & Lacey

    37:59

    Barney Rosenzweig on what Cagney & Lacey was about at its core and social issues addressed on the show

    06:14

    Barney Rosenzweig on the cast and the legacy of Cagney & Lacey and what it did for the portrayal of women on television, and on how it changed television

    11:55

    Drama Series

    Barney Rosenzweig on the idea for and several cast changes for Cagney & Lacey

    37:59

    Barney Rosenzweig on what Cagney & Lacey was about at its core and social issues addressed on the show

    06:14

    Barney Rosenzweig on the cast and the legacy of Cagney & Lacey and what it did for the portrayal of women on television; on how it changed television

    00:00

    Western Series

    Barney Rosenzweig on taking over as producer of Daniel Boone in its fourth season

    05:08

    Barney Rosenzweig on why he's proud of his work on Daniel Boone

    02:12

    Barney Rosenzweig on how he transformed Daniel Boone in its fourth season (by "introverting" the show)

    10:52

    Barbara Avedon

    Barney Rosenzweig on meeting the writing team of Barbara Avedon and Barbara Corday

    00:55

    Barney Rosenzweig on Barbara Avedon and Barbara Corday writing the script for the movie version of Cagney & Lacey

    02:16

    Susan Clark

    Barney Rosenzweig on Susan Clark being considered for "Cagney" on Cagney & Lacey  

    02:32

    Barbara Corday

    Barney Rosenzweig on meeting the writing team of Barbara Avedon and Barbara Corday

    00:55

    Barney Rosenzweig on Barbara Avedon and Barbara Corday writing the script for the movie version of Cagney & Lacey

    02:16

    Barney Rosenzweig on Cagney & Lacey moving to television and Barbara Corday becoming an executive

    03:34

    Tyne Daly

    Barney Rosenzweig on the cast of the first episodes of the TV series Cagney & Lacey (Meg Foster and Tyne Daly)

    05:33

    Barney Rosenzweig on Cagney & Lacey's Tyne Daly

    02:21

    Barney Rosenzweig on reuniting with Tyne Daly on Christy

    02:03

    Sharon Gless on walking down the streets of New York with Tyne Daly and the reaction of fans

    01:46

    Farrah Fawcett

    Barney Rosenzweig on the stars of Charlie's Angels - Farrah Fawcett

    00:36

    Peter Frankovich

    Barney Rosenzweig on Peter Frankovich buying Cagney & Lacey for television

    01:16

    Sharon Gless

    Barney Rosenzweig on wanting Sharon Gless to play "Cagney" on Cagney & Lacey, Gless not being available, but coming aboard when the show became a series

    03:33

    Barney Rosenzweig on the cast of the first episodes of the TV series Cagney & Lacey (Meg Foster and Tyne Daly) and how Sharon Gless was still unavailable to play "Cagney"

    03:01

    Barney Rosenzweig on how Sharon Gless replaced Meg Foster as "Cagney" on Cagney & Lacey

    04:03

    Barney Rosenzweig on Cagney & Lacey's Sharon Gless

    06:35

    Barney Rosenzweig on his goal for The Trials of Rosie O'Neill

    01:40

    Barney Rosenzweig on marrying Sharon Gless and how their relationship affected The Trials of Rosie O'Neill

    03:53

    Leonard Goldberg

    Barney Rosenzweig on fighting with Leonard Goldberg about Charlie's Angels

    03:01

    Hedda Hopper

    Barney Rosenzweig on his PR role at MGM and dinners with Hedda Hopper

    01:00

    Kate Jackson

    Barney Rosenzweig on the stars of Charlie's Angels - Kate Jackson

    00:57

    Sherry Lansing

    Barney Rosenzweig on Sherry Lansing loving the Cagney & Lacey script

    00:58

    Fess Parker

    Barney Rosenzweig on Fess Parker approving him to become producer on Daniel Boone

    01:00

    Barney Rosenzweig on working with Fess Parker on Daniel Boone

    00:57

    David O. Selznick

    Barney Rosenzweig on how he'd like to be remembered

    00:52

    Frank Sinatra

    Barney Rosenzweig on putting together the movie "Tony Rome" with Frank Sinatra, but not getting to see it through production

    02:18

    Jaclyn Smith

    Barney Rosenzweig on the stars of Charlie's Angels - Jaclyn Smith

    00:17

    Aaron Spelling

    Barney Rosenzweig on offering Aaron Spelling his thoughts on Charlie's Angels and getting hired as a producer

    02:59

    Loretta Swit

    Barney Rosenzweig on Loretta Swit getting cast in the Cagney & Lacey television movie

    01:34

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