"In early television, had we been afraid that we didn't know how to do the medium, it would never have started. We weren't trained, we were just thrust into it and had to do it."

    About This Interview

    In his four-hour interview, Bob Banner (1921-2011) speaks at length about his first experiences in the new medium of television at WBKB, and later WMAQ in Chicago. He speaks about the Chicago School of Television and provides several humorous stories about on-set incidents. He reminisces about such personalities as Burr Tillstrom and Fran Allison from Kukla, Fran and Ollie, and how they were instrumental in persuading him to accept a position with The Fred Waring Show in New York. Banner fondly recalls working with Dinah Shore when he was directing and producing her show, sponsored by Chevrolet, and recalls how her trademark kiss at the end of the show came about. He also describes an incident in a restaurant between Dinah Shore, legendary actress Bette Davis, and a fan that highlighted the differences between film and television celebrity. He speaks about many of the people that he worked with throughout his career, including Dave Garroway, Carol Burnett, Perry Como, ice skater Peggy Fleming, Ed Wynn, and Jim Henson. He talks about many of the variety shows that he produced, such as Solid Gold, Star Search, and It's Showtime at the Apollo. Banner also mentions his then-recent work, including a Discovery Channel children's show, Real Kids, Real Adventures. Henry Colman conducted the interview on November 5, 1999 in Santa Monica, CA.

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    Bob Banner on working with Frank Sinatra on a number of his television specials

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    Bob Banner on Dinah Shore's signature of throwing a kiss on The Dinah Shore Chevy Show and on the "See the USA in your Chevrolet" theme song

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    Bob Banner on producing My Sweet Charlie on Broadway and later for television starring Patty Duke

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    Chapter 1

    On his early life and influences; on early television he saw; on his service in World War II

    12:40

    On teaching at Northwestern; on going to work for radio station WBKB and becoming a stage manager at local television station WMAQ

    16:15

    Chapter 2

    On becoming a director at local Chicago station WMAQ, and directing the show Gone But Not Gotten hosted by Hugh Downs; on his experiences working in production on Kukla, Fran & Ollie

    13:54

    On directing Garroway at Large starring Dave Garroway; on the guests and unorthodox format of Garroway at Large; on the studio and experimental nature of the show

    14:58

    Chapter 3

    On Dave Garroway; on the production of Garroway at Large

    08:36

    On moving to New York to direct The Fred Waring Show; on his responsibilities on and the production of The Fred Waring Show; on what he learned as a producer and director of The Fred Waring Show and the rehearsal of the show

    16:30

    On his personal style as a producer

    02:46

    Chapter 4

    On how fans approached TV star Dinah Shore versus movie star Bette Davis; on directing various Omnibus programs including "La Boheme"

    14:34

    On directing televised boxing matches in Chicago early in his career; on working with Omnibus host Alistair Cooke; on working on Wide Wide World

    15:16

    Chapter 5

    On the duties of the director in television; on the duties of the producer in television; on directing The Dinah Shore Chevy Show, the first regular color broadcast  

    13:34

    On producing Peggy Fleming Visits the Soviet Union; on Dinah Shore's signature of throwing a kiss on The Dinah Shore Chevy Show and on the "See the USA in your Chevrolet" theme song; on working with Dinah Shore on The Dinah Shore Chevy Show and on various production elements of the show

    13:50

    On producing The Colgate Comedy Hour

    00:58

    Chapter 6

    On working with Frank Sinatra on a number of his television specials; on winning an Emmy for The Dinah Shore Chevy Show and a number of awards over the years; on forming his own production company Bob Banner Associates 

    11:38

    On producing The Garry Moore Show; on producing Candid Camera

    12:10

    On producing Julie and Carol at Carnegie Hall; on producing a charity event with Jack Benny and Isaac Stern to save Carnegie Hall; on producing The Jimmy Dean Show

    04:30

    Chapter 7

    On Carol Burnett's contributions on The Garry Moore Show; on producing The Carol Burnett Show; on producing A Salute to American Imagination, the Ford Motors seventy-fifth anniversary celebration and on working with Ed Wynn

    13:32

    On producing My Sweet Charlie on Broadway and later for television starring Patty Duke; on working with Ethel Merman on the special A Salute to American Imagination; on Solid Gold's popularity in Israel and on working on various Perry Como Specials

    15:33

    Chapter 8

    On working with Jim Henson and the Muppets on The Jimmy Dean Show and A Sesame Street Christmas; on the genesis of his syndicated music series Solid Gold; on producing Star Search

    11:26

    On producing It's Showtime at the Apollo; on producing the special That's What Friends Are For; on the decline of variety programming in the '80s and '90s

    10:06

    On producing the made-for-television movie Yes, Virginia, There is a Santa Claus starring Charles Bronson; on producing Real Kids, Real Adventures for the Discovery Channel

    06:32

    Chapter 9

    On his favorite show being whatever show he was doing, and on producing game shows; on his advice to an aspiring television producer or director; on the then-current state of television 

    06:36

    On the then-current state of television and how the television audience changed over his career; on the then-future of television; on how he'd like to be remembered

    06:35

    Candid Camera

    Bob Banner on producing Candid Camera

    09:46

    Carol Burnett Show, The (1967-78)

    Bob Banner on producing The Carol Burnett Show

    03:22

    Colgate Comedy Hour, The

    Bob Banner on producing The Colgate Comedy Hour

    00:58

    Dinah Shore Chevy Show, The

    Bob Banner on how fans approached TV star Dinah Shore versus movie star Bette Davis

    01:52

    Bob Banner on directing The Dinah Shore Chevy Show, the first regular color broadcast

    07:08

    Bob Banner on Dinah Shore's signature of throwing a kiss on The Dinah Shore Chevy Show and on the "See the USA in your Chevrolet" theme song

    02:37

    Bob Banner on working with Dinah Shore on The Dinah Shore Chevy Show and various production elements of the show

    05:28

    Bob Banner on winning an Emmy for The Dinah Shore Chevy Show and a number of other awards over the years

    01:37

    Emmy Awards, The (Primetime and Daytime)

    Bob Banner on winning an Emmy for The Dinah Shore Chevy Show and a number of other awards over the years

    01:37

    Frank Sinatra Specials

    Bob Banner on working with Frank Sinatra on a number of his television specials

    06:57

    Fred Waring Show, The

    Bob Banner on moving to New York to direct The Fred Waring Show

    05:01

    Bob Banner on his responsibilities on and the production of The Fred Waring Show

    05:01

    Bob Banner on what he learned as a producer and director of The Fred Waring Show and the rehearsal of the show

    06:27

    Garroway at Large

    Bob Banner on directing Garroway at Large starring Dave Garroway

    04:56

    Bob Banner on the guests and unorthodox format of Garroway at Large

    08:20

    Bob Banner on the studio and experimental nature of Garroway at Large 

    01:40

    Bob Banner on the production of Garroway at Large

    06:34

    Garry Moore Show, The

    Bob Banner on producing The Garry Moore Show  

    02:23

    Bob Banner on producing Candid Camera segments on The Garry Moore Show, which led to Candid Camera

    09:46

    Bob Banner on Carol Burnett's contributions on The Garry Moore Show

    06:11

    It's Showtime at the Apollo

    Bob Banner on producing It's Showtime at the Apollo

    05:28

    Jimmy Dean Show, The

    Bob Banner on producing The Jimmy Dean Show

    01:19

    Bob Banner on working with Jim Henson and the Muppets on The Jimmy Dean Show and A Sesame Street Christmas 

    04:26

    Kukla, Fran & Ollie

    Bob Banner on his experiences working in production on Kukla, Fran & Ollie

    11:55

    My Sweet Charlie

    Bob Banner on producing My Sweet Charlie on Broadway and later for television starring Patty Duke

    03:01

    Omnibus

    Bob Banner on directing various Omnibus programs including "La Boheme"

    12:38

    Bob Banner on working with Omnibus host Alistair Cooke

    02:20

    Perry Como Specials

    Bob Banner on working on various Perry Como Specials

    07:09

    Sesame Street

    Bob Banner on working with Jim Henson and the Muppets on The Jimmy Dean Show and A Sesame Street Christmas

    04:26

    Solid Gold

    Bob Banner on Solid Gold's popularity in Israel

    03:24

    Bob Banner on producing Solid Gold

    04:03

    Star Search

    Bob Banner on producing Star Search

    02:55

    Wide Wide World

    Bob Banner on working on Wide Wide World

    04:47

    Advice

    Bob Banner on his advice to an aspiring television producer or director

    01:46

    Cold War

    Bob Banner on producing Peggy Fleming Visits the Soviet Union

    05:43

    Emmy Awards

    Bob Banner on winning an Emmy for The Dinah Shore Chevy Show and a number of other awards over the years

    01:37

    Fame and Celebrity

    Bob Banner on how fans approached TV star Dinah Shore versus movie star Bette Davis

    01:52

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Bob Banner on his service in World War II

    02:19

    Bob Banner on producing Peggy Fleming Visits the Soviet Union

    05:43

    Pop Culture

    Bob Banner on Dinah Shore's signature of throwing a kiss on The Dinah Shore Chevy Show and on the "See the USA in your Chevrolet" theme song

    02:37

    Representation on Television

    Bob Banner on producing It's Showtime at the Apollo

    05:28

    Technological Innovation

    Bob Banner on directing The Dinah Shore Chevy Show, the first regular color broadcast

    07:08

    Television Industry

    Bob Banner on how fans approached TV star Dinah Shore versus movie star Bette Davis

    01:52

    Bob Banner on his advice to an aspiring television producer or director

    01:46

    Bob Banner on the then-current state of television 

    01:58

    Bob Banner on how the television audience changed during his career

    02:17

    TV Theme Songs

    Bob Banner on Dinah Shore's signature throwing of her kiss on > The Dinah Shore Chevy Show  and on the "See the USA in your Chevrolet" theme song>

    02:37

    Underrepresented Voices

    Bob Banner on producing It's Showtime at the Apollo

    05:28

    War

    Bob Banner on his service in World War II

    02:19

    Bob Banner on producing Peggy Fleming Visits the Soviet Union

    05:43

    World War II

    Bob Banner on his service in World War II

    02:19

    Directors

    Bob Banner on directing televised boxing matches in Chicago early in his career

    05:25

    Bob Banner on the duties of the director in television 

    03:59

    Bob Banner on his advice to an aspiring television producer or director

    01:46

    Producers

    Bob Banner on his personal style as a producer

    02:46

    Bob Banner on duties of the producer in television 

    02:25

    Bob Banner on his advice to an aspiring television producer or director

    01:46

    Children's Programming

    Bob Banner on his experiences working in production on Kukla, Fran & Ollie

    11:55

    Bob Banner on producing Real Kids, Real Adventures for the Discovery Channel

    03:55

    Bob Banner on working with Jim Henson and the Muppets on The Jimmy Dean Show and A Sesame Street Christmas 

    04:26

    Classic Anthology Series

    Bob Banner on directing Ominbus

    12:38

    Bob Banner on working with Omnibus host Alistair Cooke

    02:20

    Comedy Series

    Bob Banner on producing The Garry Moore Show

    02:23

    Bob Banner on producing Candid Camera

    09:46

    Music Shows & Variety Shows/Specials

    Bob Banner on directing and producing The Fred Waring Show

    16:31

    Bob Banner on producing The Dinah Shore Chevy Show

    07:08

    Bob Banner on producing Peggy Fleming Visits the Soviet Union

    05:43

    Bob Banner on producing The Colgate Comedy Hour

    00:58

    Bob Banner on working with Frank Sinatra on a number of his television specials

    06:58

    Bob Banner on producing The Jimmy Dean Show

    01:19

    Bob Banner on working with Ethel Merman on the special A Salute to American Imagination

    01:57

    Bob Banner on Carol Burnett's contributions on The Garry Moore Show

    06:12

    Bob Banner on producing The Carol Burnett Show

    03:22

    Bob Banner on Solid Gold's popularity in Israel

    03:24

    Bob Banner on working on various Perry Como Specials

    07:09

    Bob Banner on the decline of variety programming in the '80s and '90s

    02:45

    Bob Banner on working with Jim Henson and Muppets on The Jimmy Dean Show  and A Sesame Street Christmas 

    04:27

    Bob Banner on producing It's Showtime at the Apollo

    05:28

    Bob Banner on producing Solid Gold

    04:03

    Bob Banner on producing Star Search

    02:55

    News and Documentary

    Bob Banner on working on Wide Wide World

    04:47

    Bob Banner on directing Garroway at Large 

    14:58

    Bob Banner on directing Garroway at Large

    08:36

    Sports

    Bob Banner on directing televised boxing matches in Chicago early in his career

    05:25

    TV Movies/Miniseries/Dramatic Specials

    Bob Banner on producing The Dinah Shore Chevy Show

    08:06

    Bob Banner on producing Julie and Carol at Carnegie Hall starring Julie Andrews and Carol Burnett

    01:22

    Bob Banner on producing A Salute to American Imagination, the Ford Motors seventy-fifth anniversary celebration and on working with Ed Wynn

    03:57

    Bob Banner on producing My Sweet Charlie on Broadway and later for television starring Patty Duke

    03:01

    Bob Banner on producing the made-for-television movie Yes, Virginia, There is a Santa Claus starring Charles Bronson 

    03:37

    Fran Allison

    Bob Banner on his experiences working in production on Kukla, Fran & Ollie with Fran Allison

    11:55

    Julie Andrews

    Bob Banner on producing Julie and Carol at Carnegie Hall starring Julie Andrews and Carol Burnett

    01:22

    Carol Burnett

    Bob Banner on producing Julie and Carol at Carnegie Hall starring Julie Andrews and Carol Burnett

    01:22

    Bob Banner on Carol Burnett's contributions on The Garry Moore Show

    06:11

    Bob Banner on producing The Carol Burnett Show

    03:22

    Tim Conway

    Bob Banner on producing The Carol Burnett Show costarring Tom Conway

    03:22

    Alistair Cooke

    Bob Banner on working with Omnibus host Alistair Cooke

    02:20

    Bette Davis

    Bob Banner on how fans approached TV star Dinah Shore versus movie star Bette Davis

    01:52

    Jimmy Dean

    Bob Banner on producing The Jimmy Dean Show

    01:19

    Hugh Downs

    Bob Banner on becoming a director at local Chicago station WMAQ, and directing the show Gone But Not Gotten hosted by Hugh Downs 

    01:59

    Patty Duke

    Bob Banner on producing My Sweet Charlie on Broadway and later for television starring Patty Duke

    03:01

    Allen Funt

    Bob Banner on producing Candid Camera starring Allen Funt

    09:48

    Dave Garroway

    Bob Banner on directing Garroway at Large starring Dave Garroway

    04:56

    Bob Banner on the guests and unorthodox format of Garroway at Large starring Dave Garroway

    08:20

    Bob Banner on the studio and experimental nature of Garroway at Large starring Dave Garroway

    01:40

    Bob Banner on Dave Garroway

    02:01

    Jim Henson

    Producer Bob Banner on working with Jim Henson and the Muppets on The Jimmy Dean Show and A Sesame Street Christmas

    04:26

    Harvey Korman

    Bob Banner on producing The Carol Burnett Show costarring Harvey Korman

    03:22

    Vicki Lawrence

    Bob Banner on producing The Carol Burnett Show costarring Vicki Lawrence

    03:22

    Ed McMahon

    Bob Banner on producing Star Search hosted by Ed McMahon

    02:56

    Ethel Merman

    Bob Banner on working with Ethel Merman on the special A Salute to American Imagination

    01:57

    Garry Moore

    Bob Banner on producing The Garry Moore Show

    02:23

    Dinah Shore

    Bob Banner on how fans approached TV star Dinah Shore versus movie star Bette Davis

    01:52

    Bob Banner on directing The Dinah Shore Chevy Show, the first regular color broadcast

    07:08

    Bob Banner on Dinah Shore's signature of throwing a kiss on The Dinah Shore Chevy Show and on the "See the USA in your Chevrolet" theme song

    02:37

    Bob Banner on working with Dinah Shore on The Dinah Shore Chevy Show and on various production elements of the show

    05:28

    Frank Sinatra

    Producer/Director Bob Banner on working with Frank Sinatra on a number of his television specials

    06:57

    Burr Tillstrom

    Bob Banner on his experiences working in production on Kukla, Fran & Ollie with Burr Tillstrom

    11:55

    Fred Waring

    Bob Banner on moving to New York to direct The Fred Waring Show

    05:01

    Bob Banner on his responsibilities on and the production of The Fred Waring Show

    05:01

    Bob Banner on what he learned as a producer and director of The Fred Waring Show and the rehearsal of the show

    06:27

    Ed Wynn

    Bob Banner on producing A Salute to American Imagination, the Ford Motors seventy-fifth anniversary celebration and on working with Ed Wynn costarring Tom Conway

    03:57

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