Kate & Allie

The Academy of Television Arts & Sciences Foundation Presents




Kate & Allie, which ran on CBS from 19 March 1984 to 22 May 1989, was the brainchild of Sherry Coben who came up with the idea for the series while attending a high school reunion. There she noticed that a couple of divorcees who seemed unhappy and dissatisfied found comfort in sharing with each other. Coben worked with this germinal notion and successfully pitched the resulting script, originally entitled, "Two Mommies," to Michael Ogiens, then head of New York program development at CBS. Ogiens liked the script because it contained fresh material that dealt with a real issue of the day--single parenthood.

The next step in the series' genesis was the location of actresses for the central roles. Susan Saint James was, at the time, under contract to CBS. Though she was best known for romantic comedy, she liked the script and the part of Kate McArdle but stipulated her demands--production before a live audience and a New York shooting location. Saint James' close friend Jane Curtin was soon convinced to accept the part of Allie Lowell. Producer-director-writer Bill Persky agreed to produce and direct six episodes, without committing to an entire series. He also insisted that Bob Randall be brought on board as producer/writer and supervisor. Reeves Communications, with executive producers, Mort Lachman and Merrill Grant, undertook production of Kate & Allie, and the series debuted with a script by Coben which sets the series' premise: two divorced women who have known one another since childhood decide to move in together and raise their three children as a family unit--at least temporarily.

Kate & Allie was an instant success, ranking fourth the week it debuted, garnering consistently high ratings thereafter, and earning Jane Curtin two consecutive Emmys and Bill Persky, one. The characters and the issues they dealt with obviously appealed to the program's audience.

Saint James' character, Kate, is a woman recently divorced from her unstable and somewhat flighty part-time actor husband, Max. She has one daughter, 14-year-old Emma (Ari Meyers). Curtin's Allie is also recently divorced from her successful, but unfaithful doctor husband, Charles. She has a 14-year-old daughter Jennie (Allison Smith) and a seven-year-old son, Chip (Frederick Koehler). Neither Kate nor Allie have ruled out remarriage but view their new situation as a provisional reprieve, a time for both women to come to know and appreciate themselves. On one level the series dealt with practical problems faced by divorced women with children: adjusting to a new lifestyle and to living closely with new people, dealing with children's issues, beginning to date again, securing financial stability.

On another level, however, the series deals with the larger issue of gender identity at a time when gender roles were in transition. Allie Lowell has submerged her own identity in that of her husband and most of the series' trajectory tracks her journey toward autonomy. Kate McArdle, on the other hand, has a stronger sense of her own identity, but must constantly struggle for equality at work and for the assurance that her goals will be respected in any love relationship.

Key to the series' notion of women's development is same-sex friendship, and each episode is narratively structured to highlight the long-term, supportive friendship between the two main characters. Episodes begin with a conversation between Kate and Allie designed to enhance the audience's understanding of both women or to provide backstory. Similarly, each episode ends with Kate and Allie discussing and bringing closure to the events just depicted. Their verbal intimacy both reflects and heightens their sustaining friendship. As the series evolved the same kind of supportive friendship developed between the two daughters who initially disliked being forced together.

After directing one hundred episodes and having Allie accept the wedding proposal of likable character Bob Barsky, Bill Persky left the series, feeling that Kate & Allie had now fulfilled its premise. The needed respite had worked for Allie, who was now able to enter a meaningful heterosexual relationship as a fully autonomous individual, sure of herself and of her own goals. While Kate still had not met a man whose life goals matched her own, she and Allie owned a successful business, and the audience was sure that she would not succumb to a marriage which downplayed her personal desires.

Despite these developments, the series continued. Linda Day became the director with Anne Flett and Chuck Ranberg as producers, but the new team did not meet with the same success as had the first. The decline of Kate & Allie illustrates an interesting aspect of television's capabilities in combining socio-cultural issues with particular narrative strategies. With the series' premise fulfilled, plots lacked the same objective and lost the relevance and vitality of earlier episodes. In part to address this situation, early in the new season the writers created a device to bring the two women together again: Kate moved out of the old apartment and in with Allie and Bob--who accepted a sportscasting job that would take him away on weekends. By this time, however, Emma was out of the series, ostensibly away studying, and though Jennie remained an active and visible character, she too had moved out of the household to live in a university dorm. The friendship between Kate and Allie lost its earlier dynamism now that Allie was married. Kate appeared as an intrusion into the household rather than a necessary part of it. Even though the series had not "solved" the social problems it addressed, its creators and performers had moved the main characters into a narrative situation that no longer seemed a workable fiction. After its sixth season, the series was not renewed.

-Christine R. Catron


Kate McArdle.................................Susan Saint James

Allie Lowell............................................... Jane Curtin

Emma McArdle (1984-1988)........................ Ari Meyers

Chip Lowell...................................... Frederick Koehler

Jennie Lowell......................................... Allison Smith

Charles Lowell (1984-1986)......................... Paul Hecht

Ted Bartelo (1984-1985, 1987-1988)...... Gregory Salata

Bob Barsky (1987-1989)............................ Sam Freed

Lou Carello (1988-1989).......................... Peter Onorati


Bob Randall, Mort Lachman, Merrill Grant, Bill Persky, Anne Flett, Chuck Ranberg


122 Episodes


March 1984-May 1984   Monday 9:30-10:00

August 1984-September 1986   Monday 9:30-10:00

September 1986-September 1987   Monday 8:00-8:30

September 1987-November 1987   Monday 8:30-9:00

December 1987-June 1988   Monday 8:00-8:30

July 1988-August 1988   Saturday 8:00-8:30

August 1988-September 1988   Monday 9:00-9:30

December 1988-March 1989   Monday 8:30-9:00

March 1989-June 1989   Monday 10:30-11:00

June 1989-September 1989   Monday 8:00-8:30


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Rabinovitz, L. "Sitcoms and Single Moms: Representations of Feminism on American TV." Cinema Journal (Champaign, Illinois), 1989.

Shales, T. "Comedy with Class: The Creative Spark Behind CBS' Kate & Allie." The Washington (D.C.) Post, 19 March 1984.

Spigel, L., and D. Mann, editors. Private Screenings: Television and the Female Consumer. Minneapolis: University of Minnesota Press, 1992.

Jane Curtin on how Kate & Allie came about
Bill Persky on the origin of Kate & Allie and the relationship between the two women on that show
Dick Ebersol on leaving Saturday Night Live to be a full time parent while wife Susan Saint James did Kate & Allie
Jane Curtin on working with Susan Saint James as "Kate McArdle" on Kate & Allie
Bill Persky on why he cancelled Kate & Allie
Saul Turteltaub on executive producing and writing Kate & Allie with Bernie Orenstein
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Jane Curtin

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Jane Curtin on how Kate & Allie came about
Jane Curtin on working with Susan Saint James as "Kate McArdle" on Kate & Allie
Jane Curtin on the character of "Allie Lowell" on Kate & Allie and working with director Bill Persky
Jane Curtin on the way Kate & Allie reflected the culture at the time
Jane Curtin on winning Emmy Awards for Kate & Allie
Jane Curtin on the end of Kate & Allie, her favorite episodes, and working with the children on the show
Jane Curtin on the legacy of Kate & Allie
Jane Curtin on how Kate & Allie came about

Dick Ebersol

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Dick Ebersol on leaving Saturday Night Live to be a full time parent while wife Susan Saint James did Kate & Allie

Mort Lachman

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Mort Lachman on writing Kate & Allie with Jane Curtin and Susan Saint James

Bernie Orenstein

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Bernie Orenstein on he and Saul Turteltaub deciding that Marlo Thomas' That Girl character should get married, and his regrets over this because it led to the end of the show and how this same thing happened later on when they produced Kate & Allie
Bernie Orenstein on producing Kate & Allie, and his regret over having the character of "Allie" get married, which led to the demise of the series
Bernie Orenstein on working with Susan Saint James on Kate & Allie
Bernie Orenstein on working with writers and directors on Kate & Allie

Bill Persky

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Bill Persky on writing for and directing Kate & Allie starring Susan Saint James and Jane Curtin
Bill Persky on the Kate & Allie episode "The Very Loud Family" which he won an Emmy Award for directing
Bill Persky on his favorite episode of Kate & Allie "Brother Can You Spare a Dime"
Bill Persky on the origin of Kate & Allie and the relationship between the two women on that show
Bill Persky on the relationship between "Kate McArdle" played by Susan Saint James and "Allie Lowell" played by Jane Curtin on Kate & Allie
Bill Persky on how Susan Saint James and Jane Curtin worked together on Kate & Allie
Bill Persky on the kids from Kate & Allie Frederick Koehler, Allison Smith, and Ari Meyers
Bill Persky on the Kate & Allie episode "Landlady" which dealt with LGBTQ issues
Bill Persky on the addition of Sam Freed as "Bob Barsky" on Kate & Allie and on the episode "The Cakes"

Carroll Pratt

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Carroll Pratt on providing a laugh track for Soap, which proved a challenge as the show was a soap opera parody, and on providing laugh tracks for Kate & Allie, and Family Ties

Saul Turteltaub

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Saul Turteltaub on executive producing and writing Kate & Allie with Bernie Orenstein

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