"I got my philosophy of filmmaking from making The Race For Space and I never changed it from that first show. I want to entertain and inform, not just inform and not just entertain. I want to do both in the same piece."

    About This Interview

    In his nearly five-and-a-half-hour interview, producer David L. Wolper (1928-2010) talks about forming his first company, Flamingo Films, with father and son friends Joe and Jim Harris. He discusses many of his documentaries, including The Race for Space, Hollywood: The Golden Years, and The Making of a President, among others. Wolper fondly recalls working with his long-time friend Mike Wallace, as well meeting and working with oceanographer Jacques Cousteau. He talks about producing two classic sitcoms, Chico and the Man and Welcome Back, Kotter, as well as the many television movies and specials he produced. Wolper also discusses in great detail his three highly acclaimed ABC miniseries: Roots, The Thorn Birds, and North and South. Morrie Gelman conducted the interview on May 12, 1998 in Los Angeles, CA.

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    Chapter 1

    On his early years and influences; on radio he listened to while growing up; on seeing television at the 1939 World's Fair; on his family's first television set

    13:35

    On moving to Los Angeles and befriending future writer Art Buchwald at USC; on forming a company to sell educational films to television stations; on the experience of traveling the country selling educational and feature films to local television stations

    16:11

    Chapter 2

    On buying the rights to feature films to syndicate to local television stations; on a typical television station in the late '40s and early '50s, and on how stations operated; on his early competition as "film peddlers": Fredric Ziv

    08:31

    On the business of television syndication early on; on his early syndication company Flamingo Films being merged into Motion Pictures for Television; on working on the syndication and sponsorship of Adventures of Superman starring George Reeves

    07:03

    On how the business of syndication worked in the early days of television; on the syndicated series Divorce Hearing; on the genesis and production of The Race for Space

    14:30

    Chapter 3

    On producing The Race for Space and on the network news departments refusing to buy it; on selling The Race for Space to independent television stations; on critical reaction to The Race for Space and on the show being a turning point in his career

    09:43

    On the the role of the producer and director in a documentary; on producing a documentary on the history of Hollywood called Hollywood: The Golden Years; on producing Biography

    12:01

    On The Race for Space holding up over time; on his style of making documentaries; on forming his own production company

    07:20

    Chapter 4

    On Irving "Swifty" Lazar; on The Making of the President: 1964; on getting involved in National Geographic Specials

    08:55

    On producing The Undersea World of Jacques Cousteau; on winning an Emmy for The Making of the Presidency ; on making a deal with ABC to air 24 of his series

    11:22

    On his production company in the late '60s; on selling his production company to John Kluge's Metromedia; on producing feature films

    08:14

    Chapter 5

    On doing convention films in 1964 for Lyndon B. Johnson; on making convention films in 1972 for Richard M. Nixon; on producing Let My People Go and The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich

    10:14

    On making the switch to color for his documentaries; on doing documentaries about Adolf Hitler; on producing a series of specials titled Appointment with Destiny; on the controversial practice of docudramas using newly shot "recreations"

    11:19

    On the declining popularity of the documentary in the early '70s; on producing the film Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory; on producing The First Woman President, directed by Delbert Mann

    07:00

    Chapter 6

    On the importance of casting: on producing Sandburg's Lincoln

    10:08

    On executive producing Chico and the Man and Welcome Back, Kotter; on working with stars Freddie Prinze and John Travolta; on how he first heard about Roots

    19:14

    Chapter 7

    On acquiring the rights to Roots and on meeting Alex Haley; on why he knew Roots would work; on convincing ABC, headed by Brandon Stoddard, to air the show; on Roots producer Stan Margulies

    07:57

    On the screenplay for Roots being written as the book was being written and on making it a miniseries; on casting Roots including LeVar Burton as "Kunta Kinte"; on the huge success of Roots when it aired in January of 1977

    09:58

    On the economics of producing Roots; on the decision for Roots to have more than one director; on choosing the writers; on creating characters for Roots that were not in Alex Haley's book

    07:29

    On Roots winning Emmys; on executive producing Roots: The Next Generations

    03:15

    Chapter 8

    On the huge success of Roots; on dealing with network Standards and Practices with Roots; on why Roots came along at the right time; on the impact of Roots

    07:53

    On executive producing Roots: The Next Generations; on Marlon Brando playing "George Lincoln Rockwell" in Roots: The Next Generations; on the public reaction to Roots: The Next Generations

    10:05

    On producing and casting The Thorn Birds; on producing North and South

    10:38

    Chapter 9

    On executive producing North and South; on producing the 1984 summer Olympics opening ceremonies

    14:39

    On producing The Statue of Liberty Liberty Weekend celebrations; on producing the miniseries Alex Haley's Queen; on being inducted into the Television Academy Hall of Fame and on then-current projects

    15:15

    Chapter 10

    On how cable television impacted television documentaries and miniseries; on the then-current state of television; on the then-future of the independent producer on television

    11:43

    On his thoughts on various people he worked with in his career

    18:40

    Chapter 11

    On his thoughts on various people he worked with in his career

    24:41

    Adventures of Superman

    David L. Wolper on working on the syndication and sponsorship of Adventures of Superman starring George Reeves

    01:21

    Alex Haley's Queen

    David L. Wolper on producing Alex Haley's Queen

    04:17

    Biography (1962)

    David L. Wolper on producing Biography

    04:41

    Chico and the Man

    David L. Wolper on executive producing Chico and the Man; on the casting of Freddie Prinze

    05:25

    David L. Wolper on the cast of Chico and the Man and on the death of Freddie Prinze

    02:55

    Divorce Hearing

    David L. Wolper on the syndicated series Divorce Hearing

    02:12

    Emmy Awards, The (Primetime and Daytime)

    David L. Wolper on winning an Emmy for The Making of the President: 1964

    04:28

    David L. Wolper on Roots winning Emmys

    00:36

    First Woman President, The

    David L. Wolper on producing The First Woman President directed by Delbert Mann

    02:04

    Hollywood: The Golden Years

    David L. Wolper on producing a documentary on the history of Hollywood called Hollywood: The Golden Years

    03:07

    Making of the President: 1964, The

    David L. Wolper on The Making of the President: 1964

    05:57

    David L. Wolper on winning an Emmy for The Making of the Presidency

    04:28

    National Geographic Specials

    David L. Wolper on getting involved in National Geographic Specials

    01:59

    North and South

    David L. Wolper on producing North and South

    01:15

    David L. Wolper on executive producing North and South

    02:21

    Olympics

    David L. Wolper on producing the 1984 summer Olympics opening ceremonies

    12:22

    Race for Space, The

    David L. Wolper on the genesis and production of The Race for Space

    05:58

    David L. Wolper on producing The Race for Space and on the network news departments refusing to buy it

    02:39

    David L. Wolper on selling The Race for Space to independent television stations

    04:44

    David L. Wolper on critical reaction to The Race for Space and on the show being a turning point in his career

    06:33

    David L. Wolper on The Race for Space holding up over time

    02:00

    Roots

    David L. Wolper on first hearing about Alex Haley's Roots

    03:07

    David L. Wolper on acquiring the rights to Roots and on meeting Alex Haley

    04:20

    David L. Wolper on why he knew Roots would work and on convincing ABC, headed by Brandon Stoddard, to air the show

    02:27

    David L. Wolper on Roots producer Stan Margulies

    01:10

    David L. Wolper on the screenplay for Roots being written as the book was being written, and on making it a miniseries

    02:21

    David L. Wolper on casting Roots, including LeVar Burton as "Kunta Kinte"

    03:40

    David L. Wolper on the huge success of Roots when it aired in January of 1977

    03:57

    David L. Wolper on the economics of producing Roots

    03:29

    David L. Wolper on the decision for Roots to have more than one director; on choosing the writers

    03:10

    David L. Wolper on creating characters for Roots that were not in Alex Haley's book

    00:50

    David L. Wolper on Roots winning Emmys

    00:36

    David L. Wolper on the huge success of Roots

    01:25

    David L. Wolper on dealing with network Standards & Practices on Roots

    02:17

    David L. Wolper on why Roots came along at the right time, and on the impact it had

    04:11

    Roots: The Next Generations

    David L. Wolper on executive producing Roots: The Next Generations

    02:39

    David L. Wolper on executive producing Roots: The Next Generations

    03:46

    David L. Wolper on Marlon Brando playing "George Lincoln Rockwell" in Roots: The Next Generations

    04:06

    David L. Wolper on the public reaction to Roots: The Next Generations

    02:13

    Sandburg's Lincoln

    David L. Wolper on producing Sandburg's Lincoln

    06:54

    Statue of Liberty, The

    David L. Wolper on producing The Statue of Liberty Liberty Weekend celebrations

    05:23

    Thorn Birds, The

    David L. Wolper on producing The Thorn Birds and on his association with Warner Bros.

    04:50

    David L. Wolper on casting Richard Chamberlain, Barbara Stanwyck, and others on The Thorn Birds

    02:27

    David L. Wolper on The Thorn Birds director Daryl Duke

    02:06

    Undersea World of Jacques Cousteau, The

    David L. Wolper on producing The Undersea World of Jacques Cousteau

    03:12

    Welcome Back, Kotter

    David L. Wolper on selling Welcome Back, Kotter to ABC

    02:27

    David L. Wolper on Welcome Back, Kotter, produced by James Komack, starring John Travolta

    05:20

    1939-40 World's Fair

    David L. Wolper on seeing television at the 1939 World's Fair and on his family's first television set

    01:19

    Censorship / Standards & Practices

    David Wolper on fighting for key scenes in Roots

    02:15

    Emmy Awards

    David L. Wolper on winning an Emmy for The Making of the President: 1964

    04:28

    David L. Wolper on Roots winning Emmys

    00:36

    Historic Events and Social Change

    David L. Wolper on seeing television at the 1939 World's Fair and on his family's first television set

    01:19

    David L. Wolper on the genesis and production of The Race for Space

    05:58

    David L. Wolper on producing Roots

    28:39

    Industry Crossroads

    David L. Wolper on the huge success of Roots when it aired in January of 1977

    03:57

    John F. Kennedy

    David L. Wolper on The Making of the President: 1964

    05:57

    Lyndon B. Johnson

    David L. Wolper on doing convention films in 1964 for Lyndon B. Johnson

    03:29

    Moon Landing

    David L. Wolper on the genesis and production of The Race for Space

    05:58

    Olympic Games

    David L. Wolper on producing the 1984 summer Olympics opening ceremonies

    12:22

    Pivotal Career Moments

    David L. Wolper on critical reaction to The Race for Space and on the show being a turning point in his career

    06:33

    Representation on Television

    David L. Wolper on producing Roots

    28:39

    Richard M. Nixon

    David L. Wolper on making convention films in 1972 for Richard M. Nixon

    02:12

    Sports

    David L. Wolper on producing the 1984 summer Olympics opening ceremonies

    12:22

    Technological Innovation

    David L. Wolper on making the switch to color for his documentaries

    03:04

    Television and the Presidency

    David L. Wolper on The Making of the President: 1964

    05:57

    David L. Wolper on doing convention films in 1964 for Lyndon B. Johnson

    03:29

    David L. Wolper on making convention films in 1972 for Richard M. Nixon

    02:12

    Television Industry

    David L. Wolper on the business of television syndication early on

    02:16

    David L. Wolper on making a deal with ABC to air 24 of his series

    03:43

    David L. Wolper on the huge success of Roots when it aired in January of 1977

    03:57

    David Wolper on fighting for key scenes in Roots

    02:15

    David L. Wolper on how cable television impacted television documentaries and miniseries

    03:28

    David L. Wolper on the then-current state of television

    05:12

    David L. Wolper on the then-future of the independent producer on television

    02:21

    Underrepresented Voices

    David L. Wolper on producing Roots

    28:39

    Directors

    David L. Wolper on the the role of the producer and director in a documentary

    04:12

    Producers

    David L. Wolper on the the role of the producer and director in a documentary

    04:12

    David L. Wolper on his style of making documentaries, and on forming his own production company

    05:20

    David L. Wolper on the importance of casting

    03:06

    David L. Wolper on the then-future of the independent producer on television

    02:21

    Comedy Series

    David L. Wolper on executive producing Welcome Back, Kotter and Chico and the Man

    26:07

    News and Documentary

    David L. Wolper on the genesis and production of The Race for Space

    05:58

    David L. Wolper on producing The Race for Space

    09:43

    David L. Wolper on The Making of the President: 1964

    05:57

    David L. Wolper on producing The Undersea World of Jacques Cousteau

    03:12

    David L. Wolper on the declining popularity of the documentary in the early '70s

    03:27

    David L. Wolper on producing Let My People Go

    01:46

    David L. Wolper on producing The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich and on the importance of the narrator in documentaries

    02:48

    David L. Wolper on producing a series of specials titled Appointment with Destiny and on the controversial practice of docudramas using newly shot "recreations"

    07:03

    David L. Wolper on how cable television impacted television documentaries and miniseries

    03:28

    Sci-Fi/Supernatural Series

    David L. Wolper on working on the syndication and sponsorship of Adventures of Superman starring George Reeves

    01:21

    Sports

    David L. Wolper on producing the 1984 summer Olympics opening ceremonies

    12:22

    TV Movies/Miniseries/Dramatic Specials

    David L. Wolper on producing The First Woman President directed by Delbert Mann

    02:04

    David L. Wolper on executive producing Roots

    03:07

    David L. Wolper on executive producing Roots

    28:39

    David L. Wolper on executive producing Roots and Roots: The Next Generations

    17:58

    David L. Wolper on executive producing The Thorn Birds

    07:17

    David L. Wolper on executive producing North and South

    03:21

    David L. Wolper on executive producing North and South

    02:21

    David L. Wolper on producing Alex Haley's Queen

    04:17

    David L. Wolper on how cable television impacted television documentaries and miniseries

    03:28

    Jack Albertson

    David L. Wolper on the cast of Chico and the Man, including Jack Albertson

    02:55

    Elmer Bernstein

    David L. Wolper on Elmer Bernstein

    00:12

    Marlon Brando

    David L. Wolper on Marlon Brando playing "George Lincoln Rockwell" in Roots: The Next Generations

    04:06

    Art Buchwald

    David L. Wolper on moving to Los Angeles and befriending future writer Art Buchwald

    03:39

    David L. Wolper on Art Buchwald

    01:29

    LeVar Burton

    David L. Wolper on casting Roots, including LeVar Burton as "Kunta Kinte"

    03:40

    Richard Chamberlain

    David L. Wolper on casting Richard Chamberlain, Barbara Stanwyck, and others on The Thorn Birds

    02:27

    Howard Cosell

    David L. Wolper on Howard Cosell

    01:19

    Jacques Cousteau

    David L. Wolper on producing The Undersea World of Jacques Cousteau

    03:12

    Bob Daly

    David L. Wolper on Bob Daly

    01:44

    Barry Diller

    David L. Wolper on Barry Diller

    03:00

    William Friedkin

    David L. Wolper on William Friedkin

    00:08

    David Gerber

    David L. Wolper on the syndicated series Divorce Hearing packaged by David Gerber

    02:12

    David L. Wolper on David Gerber

    01:42

    Alex Haley

    David L. Wolper on producing Alex Haley's Queen

    04:17

    Adolf Hitler

    David L. Wolper on doing documentaries about Adolf Hitler

    01:12

    John Huston

    David L. Wolper on John Huston

    00:27

    Lyndon B. Johnson

    David L. Wolper on doing convention films in 1964 for Lyndon B. Johnson

    03:29

    Gabe Kaplan

    David L. Wolper on Welcome Back, Kotter, starring Gabe Kaplan

    05:20

    Alan Landsburg

    David L. Wolper on Alan Landsburg

    00:10

    Irving "Swifty" Lazar

    David L. Wolper on Irving "Swifty" Lazar

    00:59

    Delbert Mann

    David L. Wolper on producing The First Woman President directed by Delbert Mann

    02:04

    Stan Margulies

    David L. Wolper on Roots producer Stan Margulies

    01:10

    John Mitchell

    David L. Wolper on John Mitchell

    00:59

    Richard M. Nixon

    David L. Wolper on making convention films in 1972 for Richard M. Nixon

    02:12

    Don Ohlmeyer

    David L. Wolper on Don Ohlmeyer

    01:39

    Arthur Penn

    David L. Wolper on Arthur Penn

    00:39

    Freddie Prinze

    David L. Wolper on executive producing Chico and the Man; on the casting of Freddie Prinze

    05:25

    David L. Wolper on the cast of Chico and the Man, including Freddie Prinze

    02:55

    George Reeves

    David L. Wolper on working on the syndication and sponsorship of Adventures of Superman starring George Reeves

    01:21

    Fred Silverman

    David L. Wolper on Fred Silverman

    00:43

    Frank Stanton

    David L. Wolper on Frank Stanton

    00:41

    Barbara Stanwyck

    David L. Wolper on casting Richard Chamberlain, Barbara Stanwyck, and others on The Thorn Birds

    02:27

    Brandon Stoddard

    David L. Wolper on why he knew Roots would work and on convincing ABC, headed by Brandon Stoddard, to air the show

    02:27

    David L. Wolper on Brandon Stoddard

    00:51

    Mel Stuart

    David L. Wolper on Mel Stuart

    00:08

    Brandon Tartikoff

    David L. Wolper on Brandon Tartikoff

    00:43

    Grant Tinker

    David L. Wolper on Grant Tinker

    01:44

    John Travolta

    David L. Wolper on Welcome Back, Kotter, starring John Travolta

    05:20

    Dick Van Dyke

    David L. Wolper on Dick Van Dyke

    00:48

    Mike Wallace

    David L. Wolper on the genesis and production of The Race for Space hosted by Mike Wallace

    05:58

    David L. Wolper on Mike Wallace

    00:32

    Lou Weiss

    David L. Wolper on Lou Weiss

    00:41

    Orson Welles

    David L. Wolper on Orson Welles

    00:50

    Bud Wiser

    David L. Wolper on Bud Wiser

    00:13

    Frederic Ziv

    David L. Wolper on his early competition as "film peddlers": Fredric Ziv

    02:06

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