About
"When radio was king in the early days of television, the announcers sounded stuffy and very elegant and unapproachable. When I got into television... everybody was sort of relaxed and easygoing... I found that was the simplest way to do it."
In his three-hour interview, Ray Forrest (1916-1999) recalls how he became television's very first news anchor, announcer, personality, and political commentator in 1939. He discusses how he got his start as a page/guide at NBC and worked his way up to junior radio announcer before becoming an announcer for NBC experimental television. He speaks at length about the early days of NBC where he announced for shows of all genres as well as breaking news events -- including the outbreak of World War II. He talks of serving in the Signal Corps during World War II, getting injured while serving in the OSS, and returning to NBC after the war. He describes what it was like to shoot remotes, for sporting events and political conventions (including the 1940 Republican convention -- the first ever televised), and recounts working in the television studios with the cumbersome lights and cameras. He recalls how, after the war, he started one of the first children's television programs, Children's Theater, and reminisces about many of his fellow colleagues during the early days of NBC television. Jeff Kisseloff conducted the interview on April 12, 1997 in New York, NY.
Highlights

Ray Forrest on his first big TV job -- interviewing the stars of Gone with the Wind

Ray Forrest on announcing at TV's first political convention in 1940 - the Republican convention in Philadelphia

Ray Forrest on the coming of commercial television and announcing the very first commercial (for Bulova) - July 1, 1941, and the first on-camera commercial

Ray Forrest on announcing that NBC was now a commercial station, WNBT, and no longer W2XBS

Ray Forrest on his on-air announcement of the start of World War II

Ray Forrest on hosting Children's Theater -- a children's television program composed of films, c. 1949-1951 and likely TV's first educational program
Full Interview
Chapter 1
On his early years and influences; on his father trying to bring his family to America from Germany, but instead serving in World War I for Germany; on coming to America; on wanting to get a job in radio; on attending military school; on going to Europe and then getting a job at NBC; on the importance of radio at the time he entered the industry; on his first job at NBC radio -- as a page -- and how he rose through the ranks
On fellow NBC pages when he was at the network; on giving Albert Einstein a tour of NBC; on rumblings about television when he worked in NBC radio; on his next step up at NBC after being a tour guide -- announcer; on his path to becoming a junior radio announcer and why he finally joined AFRA (the precursor to AFTRA)
Chapter 2
On the shows he worked on as a junior radio announcer at NBC; on his first job as an announcer for experimental NBC TV in New York; on studio 3H - NBC's experimental television studio; on early TV equipment; on how the public first reacted to television
On early television makeup; on an early TV news simulcast with Lowell Thomas and Thomas' beard being problematic on camera; on subbing for Lowell Thomas in studio; on problematic cables in early TV studios and doing dramatic teleplays on Friday nights; on Broadway actors adjusting to television; on working with early NBC television program manager Warren Wade; on Dinah Shore suffering under the hot lights of early television
Chapter 3
On a typical broadcast day on experimental NBC TV from 1939-1942; on early TV test patterns; on early TV test cities for experimental television: New Brunswick, NJ, and Newburgh, NY and early systems of TV ratings; on recording the opening of LaGuardia airport in New York; on remote shoots; on the 1939-40 World's Fair; on working on an early TV broadcast of a baseball game and on horse races and hockey games
On working with an assistant on live TV and dealing with "mic fright"; on NBC newscaster Paul Alley wanting to do color commentary for a boxing game; on using a television camera in a plane, pre-World War II; on announcing religious services and ceremonies; on televising pretty much anything you could take a picture of during the days of experimental television and the value of remotes; on the difficulties of parking the remote TV trucks when out on assignments; on how many people were watching experimental television in the early days; on feedback he received
Chapter 4
On developing his personal style as an announcer; on how television announcing differed from radio announcing; on how people would reach him at the NBC offices; on the man who ran NBC's television unit before World War II -- Alfred H. Morton -- and the people who reported to him; on the advent of television commercials; on announcing at TV's first political convention in 1940 -- the Republican convention in Philadelphia
On other TV stations doing experimental television; on the coming of commercial television and announcing the very first commercial (for Bulova) - July 1, 1941, and the first on-camera commercial; on how commercials changed television in 1941 -- until the beginning of World War II, and on some of the early sponsors; on the on-air announcement of World War II; on being drafted into the TFPL (Training Film Production Laboratory) in World War II
Chapter 5
On working for the Signal Corps during World War II and then joining the OSS (because he spoke fluent German), and getting into a serious vehicle accident; on appearing on television in uniform during World War II; on returning to NBC TV (WNBT) after World War II and how the station had changed; on how TV camera technology changed quickly and on using the image orthicon cameras
On Hour Glass; on doing the warm-up for Texaco Star Theater; on announcing a Joe Louis fight on The Gillette Cavalcade of Sports; on introducing theater television; on the first color television system; on introducing and hosting Children's Theater -- a children's television program composed of films; on The Tex and Jinx Show replacing Children's Theater; on being told that he was getting transferred back to radio announcing for Pat Kelly, quitting, then getting asked to host Children's Theater on Saturday mornings -- NBC's first Saturday television programming
Chapter 6
On his film work (including underwater films) for the Saturday version of Children's Theater; on the awards Children's Theater won; on how long Children's Theater lasted on air and the cost of doing the show in color; on introducing films for a syndicated TV program; on leaving the television industry; on his thoughts on television today; on the importance of his work on television; on the power of television
On people he worked with in television; on having a children's gallery on the later version of Children's Theater and on successful promotions on the show
On B-roll photos from his career: of him doing an early newscast; of early NBC cameraman Joe Conn; of him interviewing Leo Rosenberg - radio's first announcer; of the NBC remote TV truck around 1940; of Belmont Park circa 1940; of Jamaica arena; of the 1940 Republican convention - the first televised convention and the first networked program; of the first on-air, live commercial for television -- for Adam Hats on July 4, 1941; of NBC's first TV shoot in a submarine; of a class on a field trip with him -- the footage of which would air on Children's Theater; of him with Milton Berle at the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, circa 1948/'49; of a postcard given out on the NBC tour in the early days of television
Shows
Children's Theater
Ray Forrest on hosting Children's Theater -- a children's television program composed of films, c. 1949-1951 and likely TV's first educational program
Ray Forrest on being told that he was getting transferred back to radio announcing for Pat Kelly, quitting, then getting asked to host Children's Theater on Saturday mornings -- NBC's first Saturday television programming
Ray Forrest on his film work (including underwater films) for the Saturday version of Children's Theater
Ray Forrest on the awards Children's Theater won
Ray Forrest on how long Children's Theater lasted on air and the cost of doing the show in color
Ray Forrest on having a children's gallery on the later version of Children's Theater and on successful promotions on the show
Ray Forrest on a photo of a class on a field trip with him -- the footage of which would air on Children's Theater
Gillette Cavalcade of Sports, The
Ray Forrest on introducing a Joe Louis fight on The Gillette Cavalcade of Sports
Hour Glass
Ray Forrest on announcing television's first regularly scheduled variety show, Hour Glass, and working with James Beard
Howdy Doody
Ray Forrest on how Bob Keeshan became "Clarabell the Clown" on Howdy Doody
Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade
Ray Forrest on a photo of him with Milton Berle at the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, circa 1948/'49
Tex and Jinx Show, The
Ray Forrest on The Tex and Jinx Show replacing Children's Theater
Texaco Star Theater
Ray Forrest on doing the warm-up for Texaco Star Theater
Topics
1939-40 World's Fair
Ray Forrest on attending the 1939-40 World's Fair
Advertising and Sponsorship
Ray Forrest on his sign-on for NBC experimental television -- before commercial television in 1941
Ray Forrest on the advent of commercial television -- July 1, 1941
Ray Forrest on the coming of commercial television and announcing the very first commercial (for Bulova) - July 1, 1941, and the first on-camera commercial
Ray Forrest on announcing that NBC was now a commercial station, WNBT, and no longer W2XBS
Ray Forrest on how commercials changed television in 1941 -- until the beginning of World War II
Ray Forrest on NBC TV becoming more professional once it went commercial
Ray Forrest on a photo of the first on-air, live commercial for television -- for Adam Hats on July 4, 1941
Emmy Awards
Ray Forrest on the awards Children's Theatre won
Fame and Celebrity
Ray Forrest on how many people were watching experimental television in the early days and feedback he received
First Big Break
Ray Forrest on his first job as a junior radio announcer and why he finally joined AFRA (the precursor to AFTRA)
Historic Events and Social Change
Ray Forrest on his father trying to bring his family to America from Germany, but instead serving in World War I for Germany
Ray Forrest on attending the 1939-40 World's Fair
Ray Forrest on his on-air announcement of the start of World War II
Ray Forrest on being drafted into the TFPL (Training Film Production Laboratory) in World War II
Ray Forrest on working for the Signal Corps during World War II and then joining the OSS (because he spoke fluent German), and getting into a serious vehicle accident
Ray Forrest on visiting the TV station and appearing on television in uniform during World War II
Memorable Moments on Television
Ray Forrest on the advent of commercial television -- July 1, 1941
Ray Forrest on announcing at TV's first political convention in 1940 - the Republican convention in Philadelphia
Ray Forrest on the coming of commercial television and announcing the very first commercial (for Bulova) - July 1, 1941, and the first on-camera commercial
Ray Forrest on announcing that NBC was now a commercial station, WNBT, and no longer W2XBS
Ray Forrest on a photo of the first on-air, live commercial for television -- for Adam Hats on July 4, 1941
Pivotal Career Moments
Ray Forrest on his first job as a junior radio announcer and why he finally joined AFRA (the precursor to AFTRA)
Pop Culture
Ray Forrest on how many people were watching experimental television in the early days and feedback he received
Technological Innovation
Ray Forrest on how hot early TV cameras were -- and how they were made cooler by painting them aluminum instead of black
Ray Forrest on the purpose of early TV test patterns
Ray Forrest on using a television camera in a plane, pre-World War II, and expanding the range of the broadcast signal
Ray Forrest on how TV camera technology changed quickly and on using the image orthicon cameras
Ray Forrest on introducing the experimental color shows out of Princeton, New Jersey
Television Industry
Ray Forrest on rumblings about television when he worked in NBC radio
Ray Forrest on getting hired to work for NBC experimental television (1939-1942)
Ray Forrest on his sign-on for NBC experimental television -- before commercial television in 1941
Ray Forrest on a typical broadcast day on experimental NBC TV from 1939-1942
Ray Forrest on the advent of commercial television -- July 1, 1941
Ray Forrest on announcing at TV's first political convention in 1940 - the Republican convention in Philadelphia
Ray Forrest on the coming of commercial television and announcing the very first commercial (for Bulova) - July 1, 1941, and the first on-camera commercial
Ray Forrest on announcing that NBC was now a commercial station, WNBT, and no longer W2XBS
Ray Forrest on how commercials changed television in 1941 -- until the beginning of World War II
Ray Forrest on NBC TV becoming more professional once it went commercial
Ray Forrest on returning to NBC TV (WNBT) after World War II and how the station had changed
Ray Forrest on the business of television after World War II
Ray Forrest on a photo of the first on-air, live commercial for television -- for Adam Hats on July 4, 1941
War
Ray Forrest on his father trying to bring his family to America from Germany, but instead serving in World War I for Germany
Ray Forrest on his on-air announcement of the start of World War II
Ray Forrest on being drafted into the TFPL (Training Film Production Laboratory) in World War II
Ray Forrest on working for the Signal Corps during World War II and then joining the OSS (because he spoke fluent German), and getting into a serious vehicle accident
Ray Forrest on visiting the TV station and appearing on television in uniform during World War II
World War II
Ray Forrest on his on-air announcement of the start of World War II
Ray Forrest on being drafted into the TFPL (Training Film Production Laboratory) in World War II
Ray Forrest on working for the Signal Corps during World War II and then joining the OSS (because he spoke fluent German), and getting into a serious vehicle accident
Ray Forrest on visiting the TV station and appearing on television in uniform during World War II
Professions
Announcer
Ray Forrest on his next step up at NBC after being a tour guide -- announcer
Ray Forrest on how senior radio announcers made money -- commercials -- and what "standby duty" was
Ray Forrest on how he finally got his start as a real radio announcer
Ray Forrest on his first job as a junior radio announcer and why he finally joined AFRA (the precursor to AFTRA)
Ray Forrest on his first job as a junior radio announcer at NBC and on why he changed his name from "Feurestein" to "Forrest"
Ray Forrest on the shows he worked on as a junior radio announcer at NBC
Ray Forrest on most early television announcers not being happy to leave radio - they made money from commercials and television did not have commercials until 1941
Ray Forrest on working with an assistant on live TV and dealing with "mic fright"
Ray Forrest on developing his personal style as an announcer, and on how television announcing differed from radio announcing
Ray Forrest on the importance of likeability in television success
Engineer
Ray Forrest on the importance of television engineers in the early days of the industry
Hosts
Ray Forrest on his next step up at NBC after being a tour guide -- announcer
Ray Forrest on how senior radio announcers made money -- commercials -- and what "standby duty" was
Ray Forrest on the path to his start as a real radio announcer
Ray Forrest on his first job as a junior radio announcer and why he finally joined AFRA (the precursor to AFTRA)
Ray Forrest on his first job as a junior radio announcer at NBC and on why he changed his name from "Feurestein" to "Forrest"
Ray Forrest on the shows he worked on as a junior radio announcer at NBC
Ray Forrest on most early television announcers not being happy to leave radio - they made money from commercials and television did not have commercials until 1941
Ray Forrest on working with an assistant on live TV and dealing with "mic fright"
Ray Forrest on developing his personal style as an announcer, and on how television announcing differed from radio announcing
Ray Forrest on the importance of likeability in television success
Technology Innovators
Ray Forrest on the importance of television engineers in the early days of the industry
Genres
Children's Programming
Ray Forrest on hosting Children's Theater -- a children's television program composed of films, c. 1949-1951 and likely TV's first educational program
Ray Forrest on being told that he was getting transferred back to radio announcing for Pat Kelly, quitting, then getting asked to host Children's Theater on Saturday mornings -- NBC's first Saturday television programming
Ray Forrest on his film work (including underwater films) for the Saturday version of Children's Theatre
Ray Forrest on the awards Children's Theatre won
Commercials
Ray Forrest on how senior radio announcers made money -- commercials -- and what "standby duty" was
Ray Forrest on his first job as a junior radio announcer and why he finally joined AFRA (the precursor to AFTRA)
News and Documentary
Ray Forrest on an early TV news simulcast with Lowell Thomas and Thomas' beard being problematic on camera; on subbing for Lowell Thomas in studio
Ray Forrest on announcing at TV's first political convention in 1940 - the Republican convention in Philadelphia
Sports
Ray Forrest on working on an early TV broadcast of a baseball game; on horse races and hockey games
Ray Forrest on NBC newscaster Paul Alley wanting to do color commentary for a boxing game
Ray Forrest on the difficulties of parking the remote TV trucks when out on assignments
Ray Forrest on introducing a Joe Louis fight on The Gillette Cavalcade of Sports
People
Eddie Albert
Ray Forrest on people he worked with in radio - Eddie Albert
Paul Alley
Ray Forrest on NBC newscaster Paul Alley wanting to do color commentary for a boxing game
James Beard
Ray Forrest on announcing television's first regularly scheduled variety show, Hour Glass, and working with James Beard
Milton Berle
Ray Forrest on meeting Milton Berle for the first time
Ray Forrest on doing the warm-up for Texaco Star Theater
Ray Forrest on a photo of him with Milton Berle at the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, circa 1948/'49
Joe Conn
Ray Forrest on a photo of early NBC cameraman Joe Conn
Burke Crotty
Ray Forrest on people he worked with in television - Burke Crotty
Ray Forrest on a photo of the NBC staff that covered the 1940 Republican convention - the first televised convention and the first networked program
Bill Eddy
Ray Forrest on studio 3H - NBC's experimental television studio, lighting engineer Bill Eddy, and the heat generated by early TV lights
Ray Forrest on people he worked with in television - Bill Eddy, who started modern lighting for television
Ray Forrest on a photo of Bill Eddy
Albert Einstein
Ray Forrest on giving Albert Einstein a tour of NBC and on Einstein's impressions of radio
Jinx Falkenburg
Ray Forrest on The Tex and Jinx Show replacing Children's Theater
Dave Garroway
Ray Forrest on other fellow NBC radio pages at the time -- Dave Garroway
Ray Forrest on his early impressions of Dave Garroway
O.B. Hanson
Ray Forrest on people he worked with in television - O.B. Hanson
Hildegarde
Ray Forrest on people he worked with in television - Hildegarde
William Holden
Ray Forrest on working with Bill Holden in the Signal Corps during World War II
Tom Hutchinson
Ray Forrest on people he worked with in television - Tom Hutchinson
Ray Forrest on a photo of the NBC staff that covered the 1940 Republican convention - the first televised convention and the first networked program
Noel Jordan
Ray Forrest on people he worked with in television - Noel Jordan
Bob Keeshan
Ray Forrest on how Bob Keeshan became "Clarabell the Clown" on Howdy Doody
Pat Kelly
Ray Forrest on his first job as a junior radio announcer for Pat Kelly and why he finally joined AFRA (the precursor to AFTRA)
Ray Forrest on being told that he was getting transferred back to radio announcing for Pat Kelly, quitting, then getting asked to host Children's Theater on Saturday mornings
Gypsy Rose Lee
Ray Forrest on a TV broadcast of Gypsy Rose Lee
Joe Louis
Ray Forrest on introducing a Joe Louis fight on The Gillette Cavalcade of Sports
Alfred H. Morton
Ray Forrest on on the man who ran NBC's television unit before World War II -- Alfred H. Morton -- and the people who reported to him
Ray Forrest on a photo of the NBC staff that covered the 1940 Republican convention - the first televised convention and the first networked program
Edward Padula
Ray Forrest on people he worked with in television - Eddie Padula
Leo Rosenberg
Ray Forrest on a photo of him interviewing Leo Rosenberg - radio's first announcer
David Sarnoff
Ray Forrest on the effort and money that David Sarnoff put into NBC experimental television
Ray Forrest on never meeting David Sarnoff in person, but knowing Robert Sarnoff
Robert Sarnoff
Ray Forrest on never meeting David Sarnoff in person, but knowing Robert Sarnoff
Abe Schechter
Ray Forrest on people he worked with in television - Abe Schechter
Fulton J. Sheen
Ray Forrest on announcing religious services and ceremonies - once with Fulton J. Sheen
Dinah Shore
Ray Forrest on Dinah Shore suffering under the hot lights of early television
Bob Smith
Ray Forrest on people he worked with in television - Bob Smith
Dick Smith
Ray Forrest on people he worked with in television - Dick Smith
Lowell Thomas
Ray Forrest on an early TV news simulcast with Lowell Thomas and Thomas' beard being problematic on camera; on subbing for Lowell Thomas in studio
Arturo Toscanini
Ray Forrest on the shows he worked on as a junior radio announcer at NBC -- NBC Symphony Orchestra with Arturo Toscanini
Ray Forrest on a postcard given out on the NBC tour in the early days of television
Warren Wade
Ray Forrest on working with early NBC television program manager Warren Wade
Ray Forrest on on the man who ran NBC's television unit before World War II -- Alfred H. Morton -- and the people who reported to him
Ray Forrest on people he worked with in television - Warren Wade