About
"The corporate mentality is to get the best equipment in there and they completely ignore the fact that it's a people to people business. You build up relationships."
In his nearly four-hour interview, Leo Chaloukian (1927-2024) discusses his childhood and service in the navy before detailing his long and decorated career in the sound industry. Chaloukian explains various elements of sound design, including Foley, ADR, and mixing, and describes his work on television shows such as Gunsmoke, Lassie, Route 66, Highway Patrol, Maverick, Have Gun Will Travel, Sea Hunt, and the pilot episode of Star Trek. He recounts his rise up the ranks from janitor to owner of Ryder Sound Services and shares tales of Ryder's founder, Loren Ryder -- a pioneer in the field of sound for film and television. Chaloukian also comments on his Oscar win for the feature film Platoon, his involvement with the Motion Picture Academy, and his time as president of the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences. Michael Rosen conducted the interview on March 28, 2001 in Encino, CA.
Highlights

Leo Chaloukian on unknowingly supplying Nixon with the equipment for all of his infamous Watergate recordings

Leo Chaloukian on the difficulties of doing sound for Sea Hunt and the creative way he protected microphones underwater

Leo Chaloukian on identifying 4 gunshots in an audio recording of President Kennedy's assassination

On sound effects for snakes in Raiders of the Lost Ark

Leo Chaloukian on the feeling he gets from perfect sound - on "Platoon"
Full Interview
Chapter 1
On his childhood and early influences; on moving from Chicago to Los Angeles; on serving as a mine sweeper in the Navy during World War II
On attending American Television Laboratories; on his earliest memories of television
On wanting to work in sound/electronics at Ryder Sound Services; on working nights at Ryder and then getting the day shift and transferring soundtracks
On impressing Loren Ryder, founder of Ryder Services
Chapter 2
On his family; on Loren Ryder and his partnership with Nagra Recorders
On sound production in the 1950s and working with Ziv Television Productions; on Foley sound
On challenges of sound building for television in the 1950s
On creating the sound effects on Lassie and Sea Hunt; on production mixing
Chapter 3
On ambient noise, wild tracks, signal to noise ratios, and other sound terms
On companies with which Ryder Sound had contracts; on his promotions at Ryder Sound Services and becoming an executive; on buying Loren Ryder out of the company
On shows his company worked on: Lassie, Death Valley Days, Annette Funicello movies, and Maverick
Chapter 4
On doing sound for Highway Patrol, Route 66, Star Trek, and Gunsmoke
On mixing sound for National Geographic specials and working with Jacques Cousteau; on mixing for David Wolper's documentaries; on sound for Hanna-Barbera shows
On taking full ownership of Ryder Sound Systems in 1976; on client relations
Chapter 5
On films Ryder Sound provided sound for: "Two Mules for Sister Sara," "Bullitt," "The Graduate," "Easy Rider," "The Godfather," "Saturday Night Fever," "Smokey and the Bandit," and "Star Trek"
On Ryder Sound being nominated for 6 Emmys in 1977, and for 14 in 1981; on Ryder Sound winning and Oscar and Emmy in 1986; on the shows for which he personally won Emmys - Stalin and Journey to the Outer Limits
On generation loss; on sound challenges on the film "Phoenix City" and being followed by the FBI
On unknowingly supplying Nixon with the equipment for all of his infamous Watergate recordings; on identifying the number of shots heard on an audio tape that recorded President Kennedy's assassination
On doing sound for "Platoon," for which he won an Oscar
Chapter 6
On working with Oliver Stone on Platoon and Wall Street; on sound for Raiders of the Lost Ark
On his work for the Federal Aviation Administration and deciphering information from black boxes
On his involvement with the Moon Landing in 1969; on JFK's assassination
On going digital and selling Ryder Sound to Sound Deluxe; on electronic editing
On some of the films Sound Deluxe edits sound for: Gladiator, Perfect Storm, and several television shows including Angel, Sopranos, and C.S.I.
On his involvement with The Television Academy
Chapter 7
On becoming a Governor of the Sound branch of The Academy of Television Arts and Sciences (ATAS); on the separation of ATAS and NATAS (National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences); on becoming President of ATAS
On the state of ATAS when he became President; on acquiring headquarters for ATAS
On suffering a silent heart attack in 1991; on current projects
On his love of sound mixing; on advice to young sound professionals
Chapter 8
On genres that are difficult to design sound for - science ficition and action
On his proudest achievement; on the key to his success
On demonstrations of sound equipment developed by Ryder Sound
Shows
Death Valley Days
Leo Chaloukian on problems dealing with clients producing Death Valley Days
Leo Chaloukian on sound for Death Valley Days
Leo Chaloukian on the challenges of doing sound for Death Valley Days
Gunsmoke
Leo Chaloukian on the challenges of doing sound for Gunsmoke
Highway Patrol
Leo Chaloukian on doing sound for Highway Patrol
Lassie
Leo Chaloukian on creating the sound effects on Lassie and Sea Hunt
Leo Chaloukian on sound for Lassie
Maverick
Leo Chaloukian on sound for Maverick
Route 66
Leo Chaloukian on the challenges of doing sound for Route 66
Sea Hunt
Leo Chaloukian on creating the underwater sound effects on Sea Hunt
Star Trek
Leo Chaloukian on doing sound for the Star Trek pilot
Topics
Emmy Awards
Leo Chaloukian on Ryder Sound being nominated for 6 Emmys in 1977, and for 14 in 1981 and on winning and Oscar and Emmy in 1986
Historic Events and Social Change
Leo Chaloukian on hearing 4 gunshots in the recording from the motorcycle policeman at JFK's Assassination - indicating at least 2 gunmen
JFK Assassination and Funeral
Leo Chaloukian on hearing 4 gunshots in the recording from the motorcycle policeman at JFK's Assassination - indicating at least 2 gunmen
Leo Chaloukian on JFK's assassination
Media Consolidation
Leo Chaloukian on his thoughts on media consolidation
Richard M. Nixon
Leo Chaloukian on unknowingly supplying Nixon with the equipment for all of his infamous Watergate recordings
Leo Chaloukian on demonstrating the Nagra Recorder that Ryder Sound gave to President Nixon
Technological Innovation
Leo Chaloukian on Ryder Sound Services working in television with magnetic sound
Leo Chaloukian on sound pioneer Loren Ryder's inventions and innovations
Leo Chaloukian on demonstrating the original Nagra Recorder given to him by Loren Ryder; on the 6 microphone input recorder invented by Ryder
Leo Chaloukian on demonstrating the original magnetic tape manufactured in the 1940s by Ryder Sound
Leo Chaloukian on demonstrating the ribbon microphone
Television and the Presidency
Leo Chaloukian on unknowingly supplying Nixon with the equipment for all of his infamous Watergate recordings
Professions
Sound Editor
Leo Chaloukian on advancements in electronic editing; on his dislike of digital editing
Sound Engineer
Leo Chaloukian on working for Ryder Sound Services
Sound Executive
Leo Chaloukian on the difference between sound technology in the '50s and more recently and on creating the sound effects on Lassie and Sea Hunt
Leo Chaloukian on starting in sound mixing and becoming an executive
Leo Chaloukian on doing sound for Oliver Stone's "Platoon" - for which he won an Oscar
Sound Mixer
Leo Chaloukian on sound mixing for animation
Leo Chaloukian on how sound mixing for animation differs from live action
Leo Chaloukian on his love of sound mixing
Sound Professionals
Leo Chaloukian on working for Ryder Sound Services
Leo Chaloukian on sound pioneer Loren Ryder's inventions and innovations
Leo Chaloukian on sound production
Leo Chaloukian on Foley sound
Leo Chaloukian on the difference between sound technology in the '50s and more recently and on creating the sound effects on Lassie and Sea Hunt
Leo Chaloukian on starting in sound mixing and becoming an executive
On sound mixing for animation
On how sound mixing for animation differs from live action
Leo Chaloukian on doing sound for Oliver Stone's "Platoon" - for which he won an Oscar
Genres
Western Series
Leo Chaloukian on the challenges of doing sound for Gunsmoke
People
Frankie Avalon
Leo Chaloukian on challenges of doing playback sound for Annette Funicello and Frankie Avalon beach movies
Joseph Barbera
Leo Chaloukian on Joseph Barbera of Hanna-Barbera
Francis Ford Coppola
Leo Chaloukian on doing sound for several of Francis Ford Coppola's films
Roger Corman
Leo Chaloukian on Loren Ryder convincing Roger Corman to use the new Perfectone Recorder
Broderick Crawford
Leo Chaloukian on the difficulties of shooting Highway Patrol with star Broderick Crawford
Annette Funicello
Leo Chaloukian on challenges of doing playback sound for Annette Funicello and Frankie Avalon beach movies
William Hanna
Leo Chaloukian on William Hanna of Hanna-Barbera
Steve McQueen
Leo Chaloukian on doing sound for Steve McQueen's "Bullitt"
John Mitchell
Leo Chaloukian on Television Academy President John Mitchell and acquiring headquarters for ATAS
Richard M. Nixon
Leo Chaloukian on demonstrating the Nagra Recorder that Ryder Sound gave to President Nixon
Gene Roddenberry
Leo Chaloukian on doing sound for the Star Trek pilot and his relationship with show creator Gene Roddenberry
Loren Ryder
Leo Chaloukian on Loren Ryder, head of sound at Paramount, founder of Ryder Sound Systems and creator of magnetic sound film
Leo Chaloukian on sound pioneer Loren Ryder's inventions
Leo Chaloukian on inventing a type of fish pole microphone while walking with Loren Ryder and how Ryder never patented his inventions except for work he did for the government
Leo Chaloukian on his promotions at Ryder Sound Services and becoming an executive and on buying Loren Ryder out of the company
Leo Chaloukian on demonstrating the original Nagra Recorder given to him by Loren Ryder; on the 6 microphone input recorder invented by Ryder
Everett Sloane
Leo Chaloukian on actor Everett Sloane in a recording session
Oliver Stone
Leo Chaloukian on doing sound for Oliver Stone's "Platoon"
Leo Chaloukian on working with Oliver Stone
David L. Wolper
Leo Chaloukian on doing sound for David Wolper