"The corporate mentality is to get the best equipment in there and they completely ignore the fact that it's a people to people business. You build up relationships."

    About This Interview

    In his nearly four-hour interview, Leo Chaloukian (1927-2024) discusses his childhood and service in the navy before detailing his long and decorated career in the sound industry. Chaloukian explains various elements of sound design, including Foley, ADR, and mixing, and describes his work on television shows such as Gunsmoke, Lassie, Route 66, Highway Patrol, Maverick, Have Gun Will Travel, Sea Hunt, and the pilot episode of Star Trek. He recounts his rise up the ranks from janitor to owner of Ryder Sound Services and shares tales of Ryder's founder, Loren Ryder -- a pioneer in the field of sound for film and television. Chaloukian also comments on his Oscar win for the feature film Platoon, his involvement with the Motion Picture Academy, and his time as president of the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences. Michael Rosen conducted the interview on March 28, 2001 in Encino, CA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Chapter 1

    On his childhood and early influences; on moving from Chicago to Los Angeles; on serving as a mine sweeper in the Navy during World War II

    11:27

    On attending American Television Laboratories; on his earliest memories of television

    03:47

    On wanting to work in sound/electronics at Ryder Sound Services; on working nights at Ryder and then getting the day shift and transferring soundtracks

    06:28

    On impressing Loren Ryder, founder of Ryder Services 

    06:44

    Chapter 2

    On his family; on Loren Ryder and his partnership with Nagra Recorders

    10:33

    On sound production in the 1950s and working with Ziv Television Productions; on Foley sound

    10:41

    On challenges of sound building for television in the 1950s

    02:53

    On creating the sound effects on Lassie and Sea Hunt; on production mixing

    04:50

    Chapter 3

    On ambient noise, wild tracks, signal to noise ratios, and other sound terms

    07:46

    On companies with which Ryder Sound had contracts; on his promotions at Ryder Sound Services and becoming an executive; on buying Loren Ryder out of the company

    15:09

    On shows his company worked on: LassieDeath Valley Days, Annette Funicello movies, and Maverick

    05:21

    Chapter 4

    On doing sound for Highway Patrol, Route 66, Star Trek,  and Gunsmoke

    07:25

    On mixing sound for National Geographic specials and working with Jacques Cousteau; on mixing for David Wolper's documentaries; on sound for Hanna-Barbera shows

    13:10

    On taking full ownership of Ryder Sound Systems in 1976; on client relations

    08:46

    Chapter 5

    On films Ryder Sound provided sound for: "Two Mules for Sister Sara," "Bullitt," "The Graduate," "Easy Rider," "The Godfather," "Saturday Night Fever," "Smokey and the Bandit," and "Star Trek"

    07:51

    On Ryder Sound being nominated for 6 Emmys in 1977, and for 14 in 1981; on Ryder Sound winning and Oscar and Emmy in 1986; on the shows for which he personally won Emmys - Stalin and Journey to the Outer Limits

    03:37

    On generation loss; on sound challenges on the film "Phoenix City" and being followed by the FBI

    07:16

    On unknowingly supplying Nixon with the equipment for all of his infamous Watergate recordings; on identifying the number of shots heard on an audio tape that recorded President Kennedy's assassination

    07:03

    On doing sound for "Platoon," for which he won an Oscar

    03:26

    Chapter 6

    On working with Oliver Stone on Platoon and Wall Street; on sound for Raiders of the Lost Ark

    06:24

    On his work for the Federal Aviation Administration and deciphering information from black boxes

    02:37

    On his involvement with the Moon Landing in 1969; on JFK's assassination

    05:06

    On going digital and selling Ryder Sound to Sound Deluxe; on electronic editing

    11:46

    On some of the films Sound Deluxe edits sound for: Gladiator, Perfect Storm, and several television shows including Angel, Sopranos, and C.S.I.

    01:13

    On his involvement with The Television Academy

    01:35

    Chapter 7

    On becoming a Governor of the Sound branch of The Academy of Television Arts and Sciences (ATAS); on the separation of ATAS and NATAS (National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences); on becoming President of ATAS

    04:36

    On the state of ATAS when he became President; on acquiring headquarters for ATAS

    14:06

    On suffering a silent heart attack in 1991; on current projects 

    03:31

    On his love of sound mixing; on advice to young sound professionals

    06:41

    Chapter 8

    On genres that are difficult to design sound for - science ficition and action

    02:14

    On his proudest achievement; on the key to his success

    05:27

    On demonstrations of sound equipment developed by Ryder Sound

    06:45

    Death Valley Days

    Leo Chaloukian on problems dealing with clients producing Death Valley Days

    01:01

    Leo Chaloukian on sound for Death Valley Days

    02:16

    Leo Chaloukian on the challenges of doing sound for Death Valley Days

    01:43

    Gunsmoke

    Leo Chaloukian on the challenges of doing sound for Gunsmoke

    02:28

    Highway Patrol

    Leo Chaloukian on doing sound for Highway Patrol

    01:35

    Lassie

    Leo Chaloukian on creating the sound effects on Lassie and Sea Hunt

    00:57

    Leo Chaloukian on sound for Lassie

    00:56

    Maverick

    Leo Chaloukian on sound for Maverick

    00:33

    Route 66

    Leo Chaloukian on the challenges of doing sound for Route 66

    01:23

    Sea Hunt

    Leo Chaloukian on creating the underwater sound effects on Sea Hunt

    02:02

    Star Trek

    Leo Chaloukian on doing sound for the Star Trek pilot

    01:59

    Emmy Awards

    Leo Chaloukian on Ryder Sound being nominated for 6 Emmys in 1977, and for 14 in 1981 and on winning and Oscar and Emmy in 1986

    02:14

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Leo Chaloukian on hearing 4 gunshots in the recording from the motorcycle policeman at JFK's Assassination - indicating at least 2 gunmen

    04:16

    JFK Assassination and Funeral

    Leo Chaloukian on hearing 4 gunshots in the recording from the motorcycle policeman at JFK's Assassination - indicating at least 2 gunmen

    04:16

    Leo Chaloukian on JFK's assassination

    00:46

    Media Consolidation

    Leo Chaloukian on his thoughts on media consolidation

    02:07

    Richard M. Nixon

    Leo Chaloukian on unknowingly supplying Nixon with the equipment for all of his infamous Watergate recordings

    03:16

    Leo Chaloukian on demonstrating the Nagra Recorder that Ryder Sound gave to President Nixon

    01:30

    Technological Innovation

    Leo Chaloukian on Ryder Sound Services working in television with magnetic sound

    00:58

    Leo Chaloukian on sound pioneer Loren Ryder's inventions and innovations

    08:50

    Leo Chaloukian on demonstrating the original Nagra Recorder given to him by Loren Ryder; on the 6 microphone input recorder invented by Ryder

    02:42

    Leo Chaloukian on demonstrating the original magnetic tape manufactured in the 1940s by Ryder Sound

    01:05

    Leo Chaloukian on demonstrating the ribbon microphone

    01:11

    Television and the Presidency

    Leo Chaloukian on unknowingly supplying Nixon with the equipment for all of his infamous Watergate recordings

    03:16

    Sound Editor

    Leo Chaloukian on advancements in electronic editing; on his dislike of digital editing

    07:02

    Sound Engineer

    Leo Chaloukian on working for Ryder Sound Services

    07:49

    Sound Executive

    Leo Chaloukian on the difference between sound technology in the '50s and more recently and on creating the sound effects on Lassie and Sea Hunt

    15:37

    Leo Chaloukian on starting in sound mixing and becoming an executive

    09:19

    Leo Chaloukian on doing sound for Oliver Stone's "Platoon" - for which he won an Oscar

    02:03

    Sound Mixer

    Leo Chaloukian on sound mixing for animation

    41:46

    Leo Chaloukian on how sound mixing for animation differs from live action

    01:09

    Leo Chaloukian on his love of sound mixing

    00:46

    Sound Professionals

    Leo Chaloukian on working for Ryder Sound Services

    07:49

    Leo Chaloukian on sound pioneer Loren Ryder's inventions and innovations

    08:50

    Leo Chaloukian on sound production

    07:18

    Leo Chaloukian on Foley sound

    03:23

    Leo Chaloukian on the difference between sound technology in the '50s and more recently and on creating the sound effects on Lassie and Sea Hunt

    15:37

    Leo Chaloukian on starting in sound mixing and becoming an executive

    09:19

    On sound mixing for animation

    41:46

    On how sound mixing for animation differs from live action

    01:09

    Leo Chaloukian on doing sound for Oliver Stone's "Platoon" - for which he won an Oscar

    02:03

    Western Series

    Leo Chaloukian on the challenges of doing sound for Gunsmoke

    02:28

    Frankie Avalon

    Leo Chaloukian on challenges of doing playback sound for Annette Funicello and Frankie Avalon beach movies

    01:10

    Joseph Barbera

    Leo Chaloukian on Joseph Barbera of Hanna-Barbera

    01:29

    Francis Ford Coppola

    Leo Chaloukian on doing sound for several of Francis Ford Coppola's films

    01:35

    Roger Corman

    Leo Chaloukian on Loren Ryder convincing Roger Corman to use the new Perfectone Recorder

    00:32

    Broderick Crawford

    Leo Chaloukian on the difficulties of shooting Highway Patrol with star Broderick Crawford

    00:53

    Annette Funicello

    Leo Chaloukian on challenges of doing playback sound for Annette Funicello and Frankie Avalon beach movies

    01:10

    William Hanna

    Leo Chaloukian on William Hanna of Hanna-Barbera

    00:56

    Steve McQueen

    Leo Chaloukian on doing sound for Steve McQueen's "Bullitt"

    02:18

    John Mitchell

    Leo Chaloukian on Television Academy President John Mitchell and acquiring headquarters for ATAS

    05:41

    Richard M. Nixon

    Leo Chaloukian on demonstrating the Nagra Recorder that Ryder Sound gave to President Nixon

    01:30

    Gene Roddenberry

    Leo Chaloukian on doing sound for the Star Trek pilot and his relationship with show creator Gene Roddenberry

    01:59

    Loren Ryder

    Leo Chaloukian on Loren Ryder, head of sound at Paramount, founder of Ryder Sound Systems and creator of magnetic sound film

    06:44

    Leo Chaloukian on sound pioneer Loren Ryder's inventions

    10:03

    Leo Chaloukian on inventing a type of fish pole microphone while walking with Loren Ryder and how Ryder never patented his inventions except for work he did for the government 

    02:40

    Leo Chaloukian on his promotions at Ryder Sound Services and becoming an executive and on buying Loren Ryder out of the company

    11:13

    Leo Chaloukian on demonstrating the original Nagra Recorder given to him by Loren Ryder; on the 6 microphone input recorder invented by Ryder

    02:42

    Everett Sloane

    Leo Chaloukian on actor Everett Sloane in a recording session

    01:27

    Oliver Stone

    Leo Chaloukian on doing sound for Oliver Stone's "Platoon"

    02:03

    Leo Chaloukian on working with Oliver Stone 

    03:31

    David L. Wolper

    Leo Chaloukian on doing sound for David Wolper

    01:41

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