"I think the legacy of That Girl is the fact that, as Billy Persky always says, we threw the grenade into the bunker. We opened up the window for young women. You did not have to be the wife or the daughter of somebody or the secretary of somebody. You could be the somebody. The story could be about you and what you wanted in life. Once that happened, I think that really paved the way for a lot of other shows."

    About This Interview

    In her nearly two-and-a-half-hour interview, Marlo Thomas speaks about growing up as Danny Thomas' daughter. She explains the close relationship she enjoyed with her father and how that affected her early years as an actress. She chronicles the events that led up to starring in and producing That Girl and discusses the then-burgeoning women's movement and its influence on both the show and her life. She describes the impetus for the children's classic Free to Be…You and Me and details the numerous television movies she produced and/or in which she acted. Thomas also speaks about her appearances on Friends, her marriage to Phil Donahue, and her production companies. Karen Herman conducted the interview on March 26, 2003 in Beverly Hills, CA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Chapter 1

    On her early years and childhood; on growing up as the daughter of TV legend Danny Thomas

    12:05

    On wanting to be an actress; on majoring in English at USC; on going to New York to act and being on the stage

    06:14

    On her first television appearances; on being compared to her father; on guest appearances on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis, Bonanza and McHale's Navy, on friend Barry Diller

    07:12

    Chapter 2

    On Two's Company; on the genesis and pilot episode of That Girl  

    09:30

    On ABC wanting to change things in That Girl; on there being an audience for That Girl; on network changes between the original pilot episode and the first episode that aired; on her character's name

    07:09

    On Daisy Productions and becoming a producer; on being the sole female voice on the That Girl creative team; on mail she recieved and how it informed the show

    11:37

    Chapter 3

    On Groucho Marx being considered for the role of her father on That Girl; On a typical workweek on That Girl; on the theme song; on her favorite episodes

    13:17

    On the fashions in That Girl; on reviews of the show; on merchandising; on not changing the title of That Girl to "The Marlo Thomas Show"

    06:00

    On guest actors on the series; on why the show went off the air; on the legacy of That Girl; on producing Free to be... You and Me

    08:39

    Chapter 4

    On the children's album "Free to be... You and Me", and how it came to be a television special on ABC; on censorship issues; on global family issues

    08:17

    On her television special It Happened One Christmas and forming a production company to produce shows for women; on her marriage to Phil Donahue; on hosting The Body Human and producing and starring in Act of Passion: The Lost Honor of Kathryn Beck

    08:24

    On her turn as a dramatic actress in Nobody's ChildTaken AwayWish You Were HereHeld HostageUltimate Betrayal; on the death of her father, Danny Thomas

    12:23

    Chapter 5

    On her role on Friends as a recurring character; on her character "Sandra Green"; on producing sitcoms; on Two Against Time

    06:05

    On writing her book The Right Words at the Right Time; on the growth of cable; on current projects

    02:44

    On her advice to aspiring actors and producers; on how audiences have changed; on her biggest career achievement; on how she would like to be remembered

    04:51

    Act of Passion: The Lost Honor of Kathryn Beck

    Marlo Thomas on producing the TV movie and starring in Act of Passion: The Lost Honor of Kathryn Beck

    02:57

    Bonanza

    Marlo Thomas on her guest appearance as a Chinese war bride on Bonanza  in the episode "A Pink Cloud Comes from Old Cathay" (airdate: April 12, 1964)

    01:05

    Danny Thomas Show, The aka Make Room for Daddy

    Marlo Thomas on her father Danny Thomas' fame and her thoughts on his television show, Make Room for Daddy

    10:38

    Emmy Awards, The (Primetime and Daytime)

    Marlo Thomas on winning an Emmy for her dramatic role on Nobody's Child

    00:49

    Free to be... You and Me

    Marlo Thomas on producing Free to be... You and Me

    02:22

    Marlo Thomas on bringing Free to be... You and Me to television; on the use of satellites; on television's responsibility to children

    08:17

    Friends

    Marlo Thomas on guest-starring on Friends; on positing that "Rachel" is a modern "That Girl" 

    03:26

    Held Hostage

    Marlo Thomas on the TV movie Held Hostage

    00:53

    It Happened One Christmas

    Marlo Thomas on the TV movie remake of It's a Wonderful Life --  It Happened One Christmas

    02:55

    Many Loves of Dobie Gillis, The

    Marlo Thomas on appearing on The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis

    00:56

    McHale's Navy

    Marlo Thomas on appearing on McHale's Navy

    00:29

    Nobody's Child

    Marlo Thomas on Nobody's Child

    03:23

    That Girl

    Marlo Thomas on the premise of That Girl

    23:33

    Marlo Thomas on how the title of That Girl came about

    01:10

    Marlo Thomas on the structure and filming schedule on That Girl

    02:24

    Marlo Thomas on the That Girl theme song, written by Earle Hagen with lyrics by Sam Denoff

    00:52

    Marlo Thomas on her favorite episodes of That Girl; on the pilot episode and fashions 

    09:36

    Marlo Thomas on why That Girl went off the air and how her character changed over the years

    02:00

    Marlo Thomas on what would have happened to "Ann Marie" and where That Girl would be today

    01:26

    Marlo Thomas on the legacy of That Girl

    00:55

    Wish You Were Here

    Marlo Thomas on Wish You Were Here

    00:25

    Advice

    Marlo Thomas on the advice she received from Lucille Ball regarding being a producer

    02:21

    Censorship / Standards & Practices

    Marlo Thomas on ABC wanting to change things in That Girl

    01:01

    Marlo Thomas on the rules for sexuality on That Girl

    02:13

    Marlo Thomas on bringing Free to be... You and Me to television and issues of censorship with "William Wants a Doll"

    02:14

    Characters & Catchphrases

    Marlo Thomas on the relationship between "Ann" and "Donald" on That Girl

    01:43

    Marlo Thomas on guest-starring on Friends -- she posits that "Rachel" is a modern "That Girl" 

    00:50

    Marlo Thomas on guest-starring on Friends as "Sandra Green"

    00:56

    Emmy Awards

    Marlo Thomas on winning an Emmy for her dramatic role on Nobody's Child

    00:49

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Marlo Thomas on the advice she received from Lucille Ball regarding being a producer

    02:21

    Marlo Thomas on the rules for sexuality on That Girl

    02:13

    Marlo Thomas on the TV movie remake of It's a Wonderful Life --  It Happened One Christmas

    00:10

    Pop Culture

    Marlo Thomas on the relationship between "Ann" and "Donald" on That Girl

    01:43

    Marlo Thomas on guest-starring on Friends -- she posits that "Rachel" is a modern "That Girl" 

    00:50

    Marlo Thomas on guest-starring on Friends as "Sandra Green"

    00:56

    Representation on Television

    Marlo Thomas on the advice she received from Lucille Ball regarding being a producer

    02:21

    Marlo Thomas on the rules for sexuality on That Girl

    02:13

    Marlo Thomas on the TV movie remake of It's a Wonderful Life --  It Happened One Christmas

    00:10

    Television Industry

    Marlo Thomas on the advice she received from Lucille Ball regarding being a producer

    02:21

    Marlo Thomas on ABC wanting to change things in That Girl

    01:01

    Marlo Thomas on the rules for sexuality on That Girl

    02:13

    Marlo Thomas on bringing Free to be... You and Me to television and issues of censorship with "William Wants a Doll"

    02:14

    Women

    Marlo Thomas on the advice she received from Lucille Ball regarding being a producer

    02:21

    Marlo Thomas on the rules for sexuality on That Girl

    02:13

    Marlo Thomas on the TV movie remake of It's a Wonderful Life --  It Happened One Christmas

    00:10

    Actress

    Marlo Thomas on her advice to aspiring actors and producers

    01:08

    Performers

    Marlo Thomas on wanting to be an actress 

    00:59

    Marlo Thomas on her advice to aspiring actors and producers

    01:08

    Producers

    Marlo Thomas on the advice she received from Lucille Ball regarding being a producer

    02:20

    Marlo Thomas on her advice to aspiring producers

    00:57

    Children's Programming

    Marlo Thomas on bringing Free to be... You and Me to television; on the use of satellites; on television's responsibility to children

    08:17

    Comedy Series

    Marlo Thomas on her father Danny Thomas' fame and her thoughts on his television show, Make Room for Daddy

    08:38

    Marlo Thomas on That Girl  

    23:33

    Marlo Thomas on That Girl

    25:34

    Marlo Thomas on guest-starring on Friends; on positing that "Rachel" is a modern "That Girl" 

    03:26

    TV Movies/Miniseries/Dramatic Specials

    Marlo Thomas on bringing Free to be... You and Me to television; on the use of satellites; on television's responsibility to children

    08:17

    Danny Arnold

    Marlo Thomas on working with producer/her father Danny Arnold

    00:39

    Lucille Ball

    Marlo Thomas on the advice she received from Lucille Ball regarding being a producer

    02:20

    Milton Berle

    Marlo Thomas on guest actors on That Girl

    01:11

    Ted Bessell

    Marlo Thomas on her That Girl boyfriend "Donald," played by Ted Bessell

    01:12

    Marlo Thomas on how audiences didn't like "Donald" being her character's agent in the pilot episode of That Girl  

    15:46

    James L. Brooks

    Marlo Thomas on James L. Brooks writing an episode of That Girl

    01:21

    Sid Caesar

    Marlo Thomas on guest actors on That Girl

    01:11

    Sam Denoff

    Marlo Thomas on the premise of That Girl and how Sam Denoff and Bill Persky came on board

    04:47

    Marlo Thomas on Daisy Productions

    01:55

    Marlo Thomas on the That Girl theme song, written by Earle Hagen with lyrics by Sam Denoff

    00:52

    Barry Diller

    Marlo Thomas on Barry Diller acting as her agent

    00:50

    Phil Donahue

    Marlo Thomas on meeting and marrying Phil Donahue

    00:56

    David Dortort

    Marlo Thomas on her guest appearance as a Chinese war bride on Bonanza  in the episode "A Pink Cloud Comes from Old Cathay" (airdate: April 12, 1964)

    01:05

    Betty Friedan

    Marlo Thomas on the premise of That Girl

    02:13

    Lee Grant

    Marlo Thomas on producing the TV movie and starring in Act of Passion: The Lost Honor of Kathryn Beck

    02:57

    Earle Hagen

    Marlo Thomas on the That Girl theme song, written by Earle Hagen with lyrics by Sam Denoff

    00:52

    Sheldon Leonard

    Marlo Thomas on her interactions with Sheldon Leonard on the set of Make Room for Daddy

    00:56

    Groucho Marx

    Marlo Thomas on Groucho Marx being considered for the role of her father on That Girl

    02:01

    Sanford Meisner

    Marlo Thomas on her guest appearance as a Chinese war bride on Bonanza  in the episode "A Pink Cloud Comes from Old Cathay" (airdate: April 12, 1964)

    01:05

    Ethel Merman

    Marlo Thomas on guest actors on That Girl

    01:11

    Mike Nichols

    Marlo Thomas on working with Neil Simon and Mike Nichols in the play "Barefoot in the Park"

    00:41

    Margaret O'Brien

    Marlo Thomas on wanting to appear with her father in movies and TV shows when he was starring with child actress Margaret O'Brien

    01:22

    Bill Persky

    Marlo Thomas on the premise of That Girl and how Sam Denoff and Bill Persky came on board

    04:47

    Marlo Thomas on Daisy Productions

    02:34

    Wayne Rogers

    Marlo Thomas on the TV movie remake of It's a Wonderful Life --  It Happened One Christmas

    02:55

    Edgar J. Scherick

    Marlo Thomas on Two's Company

    03:51

    Fred Silverman

    Marlo Thomas on the TV movie remake of It's a Wonderful Life --  It Happened One Christmas

    02:55

    Neil Simon

    Marlo Thomas on working with Neil Simon and Mike Nichols in the play "Barefoot in the Park"

    00:41

    Peter Tewksbury

    Marlo Thomas on Two's Company

    02:02

    Danny Thomas

    Marlo Thomas on her father Danny Thomas' fame and her thoughts on his television show, Make Room for Daddy

    08:38

    Marlo Thomas on her father, Danny Thomas

    00:36

    Marlo Thomas on being recognized and being compared to her father

    02:03

    Marlo Thomas on the impact her father Danny Thomas' passing had on her

    00:59

    Orson Welles

    Marlo Thomas on the TV movie remake of It's a Wonderful Life --  It Happened One Christmas

    02:55

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