"Truck drivers would call at me if they'd spot me on the street, and yell out 'Edith!' … And I find most of the time, I'm addressed by my real name which is a great step of progress. But if anybody calls me 'Edith,' I just correct them, say, 'the name is Jean.'"

    About This Interview

    Jean Stapleton (1923-2013) says of All in the Family's approach to topical issues, "There's nothing like humor to burst what seems to be an enormous problem. Humor reduces it to nothing and wipes it out. That's what humor does. That was a great part of that show in terms of every issue, but especially bigotry. And you know you make fun of something, it reduces it to nothing."

    In her two-hour interview, Stapleton describes her acting training and her Broadway roles. She recounts how she became interested in acting by reading the theater page in The New York Times (and attending the theater when she could). She talks about balancing her career and family life and talks about her work with her husband, William Putch, at the theater he founded, the Totem Pole Playhouse in Fayetteville, PA. Noting her casting in character parts in television, she recalls playing a secretary on Woman with a Past. She also humorously mentions that in one of her early parts on television, on the legal drama The Defenders, she was a woman who identifies a murderer— played by future co-star Carroll O'Connor. On All in the Family, Stapleton discusses the pilots made, developing her character "Edith Bunker," singing the series theme song with Carroll O'Connor, and the collaborative nature of the show. She also comments on the dramatic themes of the series— most notably the exposing of bigotry and prejudice— and gives details on some of the series' most memorable episodes, including "Edith's Christmas Story," which dealt with breast cancer. She then explains how she left the role of "Edith Bunker" with the death of the character in the opener of the second season of Archie Bunker's Place. Stapleton recalls producer/series developer Norman Lear's difficulty in allowing the "Edith Bunker" character to die: "Norman said on the phone, 'I just haven't been able to say yes to this.' ... I said, 'Norman you realize, don't you, she is only fiction,' And there was a long pause. And I thought I've hurt this dear man that I love so much. And then the voice came back to me, 'She isn't.' But, shortly thereafter, he gave the word and they made Edith die." She then discusses her post-All in the Family appearances in a series of made-for-television movies, including Aunt Mary and Eleanor, First Lady of the World, as well as series work on the sitcom Bagdad Café and the children's program Mrs. Piggle-Wiggle. With fond acknowledgment of later-cast Angela Lansbury's talent, Stapleton talks about turning down the lead role of Murder, She Wrote. Other subjects Stapleton discusses in her interview are the Hollywood Blacklist of the 1950s-60s, her involvement in the Women's Rights Movement of the 1970s, and dealing with fame. Karen Herman conducted the interview on November 28, 2000 in Brentwood, CA.

    All views expressed by interviewees are theirs alone and not necessarily those of the Television Academy.
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    Jean Stapleton on how All in the Family used comedy to expose social issues, including bigotry

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    Jean Stapleton on getting the acting "bug"

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    On appearing on The Defenders with future All in the Family co-star Carroll O'Connor

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    Chapter 1

    On choosing her stage name; on her parents; on getting the acting "bug"

    05:23

    On her acting training and making the rounds; on her first Broadway role; on researching the role of Eleanor Roosevelt

    09:46

    On her early television appearances in "under-fives" and her first regular role; on appearing in "Damn Yankees" and "Bells Are Ringing"

    07:09

    On her television appearance on Camera Three; on her marriage to William Putch and maintaining her career; on appearing at the Totem Pole Playhouse; on appearing on an early episode of Dr. Kildare

    06:14

    Chapter 2

    On making the rounds as a character actress; on the Hollywood Blacklist; on appearing on The Defenders with future All in the Family co-star Carroll O'Connor

    08:35

    On reading for All in the Family; on her initial characterization of "Edith Bunker" and the traits that developed through rehearsal

    08:21

    On All in the Family co-star Carroll O'Connor; on the long gestation from pilots to airing of the All in the Family; on the frankness of the material; on the casting of Rob Reiner and Sally Struthers as "Mike" and "Gloria"

    06:11

    On performing "Those Were the Days," the theme song from All in the Family; on the response to the show; on the collaborative nature of the set; on series developer/executive producer Norman Lear

    05:29

    Chapter 3

    On Norman Lear's business partner Bud Yorkin; on All in the Family directors John Rich and Paul Bogart; on the issues dealt with on All in the Family; on her involvement with the Women's Movement of the 1970s

    09:21

    On avoiding typecasting due to "Edith Bunker"; on fame; on memorable episodes of All in the Family; on leaving "Edith Bunker" with the death of her character on the second season of Archie Bunker's Place

    12:16

    On the growth of "Edith Bunker" over the course of the series; on her favorite episodes; on taking a buyout from residuals on All in the Family

    06:00

    Chapter 4

    On the made-for-television movie Aunt Mary; on being directed by her son, John Putch, in the feature film "Pursuit of Happiness"; on the television movie Eleanor, First Lady of the World; on turning down the lead part in Murder, She Wrote

    07:17

    On the short-lived sitcom Bagdad Café; on the family series Mrs. Piggle-Wiggle; on her one-woman show "Eleanor: Her Secret Journey"

    05:30

    On ageism; on advice to aspiring actors; on the fan mail she receives; on some of the actors and producers she worked with in television

    09:18

    On the donation of "Archie" and "Edith's" chairs from the set of All in the Family to the Smithsonian Institution

    04:44

    All in the Family

    Jean Stapleton on refusing to reprise "Edith Bunker" or a likeness of her in television commercials

    00:37

    Jean Stapleton on appearing on The Defenders with future All in the Family co-star Carroll O'Connor

    00:54

    Jean Stapleton on reading for All in the Family and her impressions of the pilot script

    01:48

    Jean Stapleton on her initial characterization of "Edith Bunker," and seeing a single episode of the British show on which All in the Family was based, Till Death Do Us Part

    01:41

    Jean Stapleton on creating "Edith Bunker's" characterization, including her constant hurrying and nasal voice

    00:54

    Jean Stapleton on her description of All in the Family's "Edith Bunker"

    00:58

    Jean Stapleton on All in the Family co-star Carroll O'Connor

    00:54

    Jean Stapleton on the long gestation period between the All in the Family pilots and a series pick-up

    01:12

    Jean Stapleton on why ABC passed on All in the Family

    00:40

    Jean Stapleton on her opinion of the frank nature of All in the Family

    00:52

    Jean Stapleton on the casting of Rob Reiner and Sally Struthers as "Mike" and "Gloria" on All in the Family, following recasts from the pilots

    01:14

    Jean Stapleton on performing "Those Were the Days," the theme song from All in the Family, and a lyric that proved problematic

    00:32

    Jean Stapleton on filming All in the Family in front of a live audience

    00:28

    Jean Stapleton on the collaborative nature of the All in the Family set

    00:51

    Jean Stapleton on All in the Family executive producer/series developer Norman Lear

    00:57

    Jean Stapleton on All in the Family director John Rich

    01:53

    Jean Stapleton on All in the Family director Paul Bogart

    01:00

    Jean Stapleton on favorite All in the Family episodes

    01:08

    Jean Stapleton on how All in the Family used comedy to expose social issues, including bigotry

    00:37

    Jean Stapleton on consciously trying to avoid being typecast by "Edith Bunker"

    01:32

    Jean Stapleton on dealing with fame

    01:22

    Jean Stapleton on the pilot of The Jeffersons, aired as the All in the Family episode "The Jeffersons Move Up"

    00:50

    Jean Stapleton on the decision to have the character of "Edith Bunker" die, in the Archie Bunker's Place episode "Archie Alone"

    03:27

    Jean Stapleton on the All in the Family episode "Edith's Christmas Story," which dealt with breast cancer

    01:01

    Jean Stapleton on the growth of "Edith Bunker" over the course of All in the Family, as seen in such episodes as "Edith's Night Out"

    02:06

    Jean Stapleton on learning to be open for all projects, as a result of her work on All in the Family

    00:21

    Jean Stapleton on taking a buyout from residuals on All in the Family

    01:23

    Jean Stapleton on the donation of "Archie" and "Edith's" chairs from the set of All in the Family to the Smithsonian Institution

    01:03

    All in the Family: "Sammy's Visit"

    Jean Stapleton on how All in the Family used comedy to expose bigotry

    00:37

    Jean Stapleton on All in the Family director John Rich

    01:53

    Archie Bunker's Place

    Jean Stapleton on the decision to have the character of "Edith Bunker" die, in the Archie Bunker's Place episode "Archie Alone"

    03:27

    Aunt Mary

    Jean Stapleton on the made-for-television movie Aunt Mary

    02:40

    Bagdad Café

    Jean Stapleton on the short-lived sitcom Bagdad Cafe

    01:04

    Camera Three

    Jean Stapleton on her appearance on Camera Three

    01:19

    Defenders, The

    Jean Stapleton on appearing on The Defenders with future All in the Family co-star Carroll O'Connor

    00:54

    Jean Stapleton on working on The Defenders with E.G. Marshall

    00:19

    Dr. Kildare

    Jean Stapleton on appearing on an early episode of Dr. Kildare

    00:50

    Eleanor, First Lady of the World

    Jean Stapleton on researching her role as Eleanor Roosevelt

    02:15

    Jean Stapleton on Eleanor, First Lady of the World

    00:52

    Jeffersons, The

    Jean Stapleton on the pilot of The Jeffersons, aired as the All in the Family episode "The Jeffersons Move Up"

    00:50

    Mrs. Piggle-Wiggle

    Jean Stapleton on the family series Mrs. Piggle-Wiggle, the role she played, and working with producer/actress Shelley Duvall

    01:20

    Murder, She Wrote

    Jean Stapleton on turning down the lead role in Murder, She Wrote

    01:31

    Woman with a Past

    Jean Stapleton on being happy to get cast on the short-lived soap opera Woman with a Past

    00:31

    Advice

    Jean Stapleton on advice to aspiring actors

    01:21

    Characters & Catchphrases

    Jean Stapleton on her initial characterization of "Edith Bunker," and seeing a single episode of the British show on which All in the Family was based, Till Death Do Us Part

    01:41

    Jean Stapleton on creating "Edith Bunker's" characterization, including her constant hurrying and nasal voice

    00:54

    Jean Stapleton on her description of All in the Family's "Edith Bunker"

    00:58

    Jean Stapleton on the decision to have the character of Edith Bunker die, in the Archie Bunker's Place episode "Archie Alone"

    03:27

    Jean Stapleton on the growth of "Edith Bunker" over the course of All in the Family, as seen in such episodes as "Edith's Night Out"

    02:06

    Classic TV Series Episodes

    Jean Stapleton on the All in the Family episode "Edith's Christmas Story," which dealt with breast cancer

    01:01

    Comedy

    Jean Stapleton on the All in the Family episode "Edith's Christmas Story," which dealt with breast cancer

    01:01

    Fame and Celebrity

    Jean Stapleton on her marriage to producer/director William Putch and maintaining her career

    01:30

    Jean Stapleton on the professional reasons for not giving her age

    00:44

    Jean Stapleton on refusing to reprise "Edith Bunker" or a likeness of her in television commercials

    00:37

    Jean Stapleton on dealing with fame

    01:22

    Jean Stapleton on Bette Davis (who she was with when "Archie" and "Edith's" chairs were being donated from the set of All in the Family to the Smithsonian Institution)

    03:00

    Historic Events and Social Change

    Jean Stapleton on how All in the Family used comedy to expose social issues, including bigotry

    00:37

    Jean Stapleton on her involvement with the Women's Movement of the 1970s

    01:21

    Hollywood Blacklist

    Jean Stapleton on John Randolph and others standing up to the Hollywood Blacklist

    01:00

    Industry Crossroads

    Jean Stapleton on John Randolph and others standing up to the Hollywood Blacklist

    01:00

    Memorable Moments on Television

    Jean Stapleton on how All in the Family used comedy to expose social issues, including bigotry

    00:37

    Jean Stapleton on the decision to have the character of "Edith Bunker" die, in the Archie Bunker's Place episode "Archie Alone"

    03:27

    Pop Culture

    Jean Stapleton on her marriage to producer/director William Putch and maintaining her career

    01:30

    Jean Stapleton on the professional reasons for not giving her age

    00:44

    Jean Stapleton on refusing to reprise "Edith Bunker" or a likeness of her in television commercials

    00:37

    Jean Stapleton on her initial characterization of "Edith Bunker," and seeing a single episode of the British show on which All in the Family was based, Till Death Do Us Part

    01:41

    Jean Stapleton on creating "Edith Bunker's" characterization, including her constant hurrying and nasal voice

    00:54

    Jean Stapleton on her description of All in the Family's "Edith Bunker"

    00:58

    Jean Stapleton on performing "Those Were the Days," the theme song from All in the Family, and a lyric that proved problematic

    00:32

    Jean Stapleton on dealing with fame

    01:22

    Jean Stapleton on the decision to have the character of "Edith Bunker" die, in the Archie Bunker's Place episode "Archie Alone"

    03:27

    Jean Stapleton on the All in the Family episode "Edith's Christmas Story," which dealt with breast cancer

    01:01

    Jean Stapleton on the growth of "Edith Bunker" over the course of All in the Family, as seen in such episodes as "Edith's Night Out"

    02:06

    Jean Stapleton on Bette Davis (who she was with when "Archie" and "Edith's" chairs were being donated from the set of All in the Family to the Smithsonian Institution)

    03:00

    Representation on Television

    Jean Stapleton on how All in the Family used comedy to expose social issues, including bigotry

    00:37

    Jean Stapleton on her involvement with the Women's Movement of the 1970s

    01:21

    Television Industry

    Jean Stapleton on John Randolph and others standing up to the Hollywood Blacklist

    01:00

    Jean Stapleton on learning to be open for all projects, as a result of her work on All in the Family

    00:21

    Jean Stapleton on taking a buyout from residuals on All in the Family

    01:22

    Jean Stapleton on advice to aspiring actors

    01:21

    TV Theme Songs

    Jean Stapleton on performing "Those Were the Days," the theme song from All in the Family, and a lyric that proved problematic

    00:32

    We Considered

    Jean Stapleton on how All in the Family used comedy to expose social issues, including bigotry

    00:37

    We Cried

    Jean Stapleton on the decision to have the character of "Edith Bunker" die, in the Archie Bunker's Place episode "Archie Alone"

    03:27

    Women

    Jean Stapleton on her involvement with the Women's Movement of the 1970s

    01:21

    Actress

    Jean Stapleton on the professional reasons for not giving her age

    00:44

    Jean Stapleton on consciously trying to avoid being typecast by "Edith Bunker"

    01:32

    Performers

    Jean Stapleton on the professional reasons for not giving her age

    00:44

    Jean Stapleton on consciously trying to avoid being typecast by "Edith Bunker"

    01:32

    Comedy Series

    Jean Stapleton on how All in the Family used comedy to expose social issues, including bigotry

    00:37

    Commercials

    Jean Stapleton on refusing to reprise "Edith Bunker" or a likeness of her in television commercials

    00:37

    Music Shows & Variety Shows/Specials

    Jean Stapleton on consciously trying to avoid being typecast as "Edith Bunker," by declining, among other things, guest appearances on variety shows that were a variation of "Edith"

    01:32

    Paul Bogart

    Jean Stapleton on All in the Family director Paul Bogart

    01:00

    Bette Davis

    Jean Stapleton on Bette Davis (who she was with when "Archie" and "Edith's" chairs were being donated from the set of All in the Family to the Smithsonian Institution)

    03:00

    Shelley Duvall

    Jean Stapleton on the family series Mrs. Piggle-Wiggle, the role she played, and working with producer/actress Shelley Duvall

    01:20

    Mort Lachman

    Jean Stapleton on writer/producer Mort Lachman

    00:23

    Angela Lansbury

    Jean Stapleton on turning down the lead role in Murder, She Wrote

    01:31

    Norman Lear

    Jean Stapleton on All in the Family executive producer/series developer Norman Lear

    00:57

    Jean Stapleton on the decision by Norman Lear to have the character of "Edith Bunker" die, in the Archie Bunker's Place episode "Archie Alone"

    03:27

    Jean Stapleton on the All in the Family episode "Edith's Christmas Story," which dealt with breast cancer, and how Norman Lear convinced her to do the story

    01:01

    E. G. Marshall

    Jean Stapleton on working on The Defenders with E.G. Marshall

    00:20

    Don Nicholl

    Jean Stapleton on All in the Family producer Don Nicholl

    00:53

    Carroll O'Connor

    Jean Stapleton on appearing on The Defenders with future All in the Family co-star Carroll O'Connor

    00:54

    Jean Stapleton on All in the Family co-star Carroll O'Connor

    00:53

    John Putch

    Jean Stapleton on working with her son, John Putch

    00:49

    John Randolph

    Jean Stapleton on John Randolph and others standing up to the Hollywood Blacklist

    01:00

    Rob Reiner

    Jean Stapleton on the casting of Rob Reiner and Sally Struthers as "Mike" and "Gloria" on All in the Family, following recasts from the pilots

    01:14

    John Rich

    Jean Stapleton on All in the Family director John Rich

    01:53

    Eleanor Roosevelt

    Jean Stapleton on researching her role as Eleanor Roosevelt

    02:15

    Sally Struthers

    Jean Stapleton on the casting of Rob Reiner and Sally Struthers as "Mike" and "Gloria" on All in the Family, following recasts from the pilots

    01:14

    Bud Yorkin

    Jean Stapleton on Bud Yorkin

    00:39

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