"I brought Dagmar on the show because Jerry Lester had picked her, and I said, 'What's she supposed to do?' And he said, 'She's the girl singer with the band.' So I introduced her that night. I said, 'Jerry, this is Dagmar. She's the chick with the band.' He said, 'How does she sound?' And I said, 'Who cares?' I guess it was my first laugh. After that, I had lines to do." 

    About This Interview

    In his nearly two-and-a-half-hour interview, Milton Delugg (1918-2015) talks about his early professional jobs before his service in World War II, including a job in the orchestra at Paramount. He describes the days of network radio and early television, and working with personalities including Abe Burrows and Morey Amsterdam. He speaks about his role as conductor (and accordion player) on the variety series Broadway Open House, a precursor to The Tonight Show. He comments on his association with several shows from the 1950s and early '60s, including The Paul Winchell and Jerry Mahoney Show, as well as a string of game shows. Delugg then discusses his one-and-a-half-year stint as the orchestra leader of The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson, taking the reins in between Skitch Henderson and Doc Severinsen. For The Tonight Show, he talks about the rehearsal process and gives his impressions of host Carson and sidekick Ed McMahon. He then speaks in great detail about his long association with producer Chuck Barris and his participation in all of his most well-known series: The Dating Game, The Newlywed Game, The Gong Show, The $1.98 Beauty Show, and others. He goes into great detail about The Gong Show, commenting on the panelists who appeared and the unscripted nature of the show. Finally, he talks about his many years with the annual Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. Throughout the interview, Delugg notes his many original compositions, including: "Orange-Colored Sky" (a hit for Nat King Cole) and "Roller Coaster" (for What's My Line?). B-roll consists of photos of Delugg with such notables as Frank Loesser, Jerry Lester, Dagmar, Bing Crosby, Morey Amsterdam, Al Jolson, Johnny Carson, Chuck Barris, and John Lennon. Stephen J. Abramson conducted the interview on May 5, 2008 in Studio City, CA.

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    Chapter 1

    On his childhood and early influences; on his early music career where he played "jazz" accordion

    07:08

    On his college education; on joining the Paramount staff orchestra; on working with Frank Loesser and Marty Melnick; on his World War II service during which he worked on radio show

    12:30

    On working on the Broadway musical "Very Warm for May" composed by Jerome Kern with a libretto by Oscar Hammerstein; on working with Abe Burrows; on his friend Pat Weaver's idea to have a morning, afternoon, and evening show on NBC's TV schedule; on wanting to be part of early television; on Broadway Open House

    10:59

    On working on The Morey Amsterdam Show

    04:40

    On the rules regarding live music on television and how Dick Clark eventually changed them

    03:11

    On working with Herb Shriner on Two for the Money; on working on Abe Burrows' Almanac

    02:56

    On being conductor on Broadway Open House and working with host Jerry Lester and "girl singer" Dagmar; on the production aspects of the show; on working on Seven at Eleven; on the start of The Tonight Show with host Steve Allen

    12:05

    On working on Paul Winchell's television shows

    04:48

    Chapter 2

    On Carol Burnett's role on The Paul Winchell and Jerry Mahoney Show; on The Doodles Weaver Show; on Colgate Comedy Hour; on Dagmar's Canteen; on The Bill Cullen Show

    06:26

    On working with Fred Allen on Judge for Yourself; on working on Treasure Hunt (where the show's personnel made deals with potential contestants); on I've Got a Secret; on working on Beat the Clock and Dollar a Second

    07:28

    On composing the theme to What's My Line?; on working with Bill Todman and Mark Goodson; on recording television themes; on composing the theme ("Hooray for Santa Claus") for the film Santa Claus Conquers the Martians; on the advent of pre-recorded music; on directing the music for the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade

    13:34

    On being hired as conductor on The Tonight Show starring Johnny Carson; on working with the band; on working with musical guests; on being on-camera on the show

    09:46

    On working with producer Chuck Barris; on composing for The Newlywed Game and The Dating Game; on working on Chuck Barris' revivals of Treasure Hunt and Your Hit Parade; on being the bandleader for The Gong Show (and all of the antics that ensued)

    21:21

    Chapter 3

    On The Gong Show, including how contestants were chosen, and on working with some of the celebrity judges

    05:31

    On working on various Chuck Barris productions; on various specials he worked on

    04:36

    On working on the music for many Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade broadcasts

    03:54

    On his then-current projects; on his career favorites; on working with Chuck Barris; on his advice to aspiring musicians; on how he would like to be remembered

    07:49

    On b-roll photos from his career- with Frank Loesser; on the set of Broadway Open House with Jerry Lester and Dagmar; with Bing Crosby; Al Jolson; with Johnny Carson; in the recording studio with Chuck Barris; with Tom Jones and John Lennon

    03:24

    Abe Burrows' Almanac

    Milton Delugg on working with Abe Burrows and others when he transitioned to television

    04:56

    Milton Delugg on working on Abe Burrows' Almanac

    01:02

    Beat the Clock

    Milton Delugg on working on Beat the Clock and Dollar a Second

    02:07

    Bill Cullen Show, The

    Milton Delugg on working on The Bill Cullen Show

    01:51

    Broadway Open House

    Milton Delugg on NBC exec Sylvester L. "Pat" Weaver's idea to have morning, noon, and night shows on NBC, and on becoming bandleader on the night show Broadway Open House (precursor to The Tonight Show)

    01:57

    Milton Delugg on being conductor on Broadway Open House and working with host Jerry Lester and "girl singer" Dagmar, and on the production aspects of the show

    09:26

    Camouflage

    Milton Delugg on working on Camouflage and the revivals of The Dating Game and The Newlywed Game

    00:52

    Chuck Barris Rah Rah Show, The

    Milton Delugg on working on The Chuck Barris Rah Rah Show

    01:01

    Colgate Comedy Hour, The

    Milton Delugg on working on The Colgate Comedy Hour

    01:19

    Cos

    Milton Delugg on working on Bill Cosby's variety show, Cos

    00:46

    Dagmar's Canteen

    Milton Delugg on working on Dagmar's Canteen

    01:07

    Dating Game, The

    Milton Delugg on composing music for Chuck Barris' The Newlywed Game and The Dating Game

    02:49

    Dollar a Second

    Milton Delugg on working on Beat the Clock and Dollar a Second

    02:07

    Doodles Weaver Show, The

    Milton Delugg on working on The Doodles Weaver Show

    01:12

    Gong Show, The

    Milton Delugg on conducting the "Milton Delugg and the Band with a Thug" band on The Gong Show, and on the outrageous acts on the show

    09:00

    Milton Delugg on The Gong Show, including how contestants were chosen and on working with some of the celebrity judges

    05:31

    Judge For Yourself

    Milton Delugg on working with Fred Allen on Judge for Yourself

    01:14

    Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade

    Milton Delugg on working with pre-recorded music cues on the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade and other live events

    04:44

    Milton Delugg on working on the music for many Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade broadcasts

    03:56

    Morey Amsterdam Show, The

    Milton Delugg on working on The Morey Amsterdam Show (NBC and ABC)

    04:40

    Newlywed Game, The

    Milton Delugg on composing music for Chuck Barris' The Newlywed Game and The Dating Game

    02:49

    Paul Winchell and Jerry Mahoney Show, The

    Milton Delugg on working on The Paul Winchell and Jerry Mahoney Show

    04:48

    Milton Delugg on Carol Burnett's role on The Paul Winchell and Jerry Mahoney Show

    00:57

    People Are Funny

    Milton Delugg on working on People Are Funny with Flip Wilson

    00:56

    Three's A Crowd

    Milton Delugg on working on Three's A Crowd

    00:33

    Tonight

    Milton Delugg on the genesis of The Tonight Show with host Steve Allen, and on getting called to be the conductor on the Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson

    02:39

    Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson, The

    Milton Delugg on the genesis of The Tonight Show with host Steve Allen, and on getting called to be the conductor on the Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson

    02:39

    Milton Delugg on being hired as conductor (replacing Skitch Henderson) on The Tonight Show starring Johnny Carson, on working with the band, on working with musical guests, and on being on-camera on the show

    09:46

    Treasure Hunt

    Milton Delugg on playing accordion on Treasure Hunt

    00:51

    Milton Delugg on the 1974 revival of the game show Treasure Hunt

    01:07

    Two for the Money

    Milton Delugg on working with Herb Shriner on Two for the Money

    01:54

    What's My Line?

    Milton Delugg on composing the theme to What's My Line

    01:34

    Your Hit Parade

    Milton Delugg on the 1974 short-lived revival of Your Hit Parade

    01:30

    Advice

    Milton Delugg on advice to musicians who aspire to write for television

    01:17

    Censorship / Standards & Practices

    Milton Delugg on the censorship issues on The Gong Show

    02:27

    Creative Influences and Inspiration

    Milton Delugg on his musical influences

    00:50

    Milton Delugg on mentors in his career including Frank Loesser

    01:07

    Industry Crossroads

    Milton Delugg on working on Treasure Hunt, and on the show's personnel making deals with potential contestants

    02:27

    Network Creation

    Milton Delugg on NBC exec Sylvester L. "Pat" Weaver's idea to have morning, noon, and night shows on NBC, and on becoming bandleader on the night show Broadway Open House (precursor to The Tonight Show)

    01:57

    Pivotal Career Moments

    Milton Delugg on his musical influences

    00:50

    Milton Delugg on mentors in his career including Frank Loesser

    01:07

    Pop Culture

    Milton Delugg on composing the theme to What's My Line

    01:34

    Quiz Show Scandals

    Milton Delugg on working on Treasure Hunt, and on the show's personnel making deals with potential contestants

    02:27

    Television Industry

    Milton Delugg on NBC exec Sylvester L. "Pat" Weaver's idea to have morning, noon, and night shows on NBC, and on becoming bandleader on the night show Broadway Open House (precursor to The Tonight Show)

    01:57

    Milton Delugg on the rules regarding live music on television and how Dick Clark eventually changed them

    03:09

    Milton Delugg on working on Treasure Hunt, and on the show's personnel making deals with potential contestants

    02:27

    Milton Delugg on the censorship issues on The Gong Show

    02:27

    Milton Delugg on advice to musicians who aspire to write for television

    01:17

    TV Theme Songs

    Milton Delugg on composing the theme to What's My Line

    01:34

    Music Director

    Milton Delugg on the rules regarding live music on television and how Dick Clark eventually changed them

    03:09

    Milton Delugg on his musical style

    01:18

    Music Professionals

    Milton Delugg on the rules regarding live music on television and how Dick Clark eventually changed them

    03:09

    Milton Delugg on his musical style

    01:18

    Milton Delugg on advice to aspiring television musicians

    01:17

    Musician

    Milton Delugg on advice to aspiring television musicians

    01:17

    Children's Programming

    Milton Delugg on Carol Burnett's role on The Paul Winchell and Jerry Mahoney Show

    00:57

    Comedy Series

    Milton Delugg on working on The Paul Winchell and Jerry Mahoney Show

    04:48

    Milton Delugg on working on The Colgate Comedy Hour

    01:19

    Milton Delugg on working on People Are Funny with Flip Wilson

    00:56

    Game Shows

    Milton Delugg on playing accordion on Treasure Hunt

    00:51

    Milton Delugg on working with Herb Shriner on Two for the Money

    01:54

    Milton Delugg on working on Beat the Clock and Dollar a Second

    02:07

    Milton Delugg on composing the theme to What's My Line

    01:34

    Milton Delugg on composing music for Chuck Barris' The Newlywed Game and The Dating Game

    02:49

    Milton Delugg on the 1974 short-lived revival of Your Hit Parade

    01:32

    Milton Delugg on conducting the "Milton Delugg and the Band with a Thug" band on The Gong Show, and on the outrageous acts on the show

    09:00

    Milton Delugg on The Gong Show, including how contestants were chosen and on working with some of the celebrity judges

    05:31

    Milton Delugg on working on The Chuck Barris Rah Rah Show

    01:01

    Milton Delugg on working on Three's A Crowd

    00:33

    Milton Delugg on working on Camouflage and the revivals of The Dating Game and The Newlywed Game

    00:52

    Late Night

    Milton Delugg on NBC exec Sylvester L. "Pat" Weaver's idea to have morning, noon and night shows on NBC, and on becoming bandleader on the night show Broadway Open House (precursor to The Tonight Show)

    01:56

    Music Shows & Variety Shows/Specials

    Milton Delugg on working on The Morey Amsterdam Show

    04:40

    Milton Delugg on working on The Doodles Weaver Show

    01:12

    Milton Delugg on working on Dagmar's Canteen

    01:07

    Milton Delugg on working on The Bill Cullen Show

    01:51

    Milton Delugg on working on the music for many Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade broadcasts

    03:56

    Milton Delugg on working on Bill Cosby's variety show Cos

    00:46

    Talk Shows

    Milton Delugg on working with Abe Burrows and others when he transitioned to television

    04:56

    Milton Delugg on being hired as conductor (replacing Skitch Henderson) on The Tonight Show starring Johnny Carson, on working with the band, on working with musical guests, and on being on-camera on the show

    09:46

    Milton Delugg on the 1974 revival of the game show Treasure Hunt

    01:07

    Fred Allen

    Milton Delugg on working with Fred Allen on Judge for Yourself

    01:14

    Steve Allen

    Milton Delugg on the genesis of Tonight with host Steve Allen, and on getting called to be the conductor on the Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson

    02:39

    Morey Amsterdam

    Milton Delugg on working on The Morey Amsterdam Show (NBC and ABC)

    04:40

    Chuck Barris

    Milton Delugg on working with producer Chuck Barris; on composing for The Newlywed Game and The Dating Game, and on being the bandleader for The Gong Show (and all of the antics that ensued)

    21:21

    Milton Delugg on The Gong Show, including how contestants were chosen and on working with some of the celebrity judges

    05:28

    Milton Delugg on his friendship with Chuck Barris

    00:26

    Carol Burnett

    Milton Delugg on Carol Burnett's role on The Paul Winchell and Jerry Mahoney Show

    00:57

    Abe Burrows

    Milton Delugg on working with Abe Burrows and others when he transitioned to television

    04:58

    Milton Delugg on Abe Burrows Almanac

    01:02

    Milton Delugg on Abe Burrows' wit

    01:11

    Dick Clark

    Milton Delugg on the rules regarding live music on television and how Dick Clark eventually changed them

    03:09

    Bill Cullen

    Milton Delugg on working on The Bill Cullen Show

    01:51

    Dagmar

    Milton Delugg on being conductor on Broadway Open House and working with host Jerry Lester and "girl singer" Dagmar, and on the production aspects of the show

    09:24

    Bandleader Milton Delugg on working on Dagmar's Canteen

    01:07

    Jerry Lester

    Milton Delugg being conductor on Broadway Open House and working with host Jerry Lester and "girl singer" Dagmar, and on the production aspects of the show

    09:24

    Frank Loesser

    Milton Delugg on working with Frank Loesser 

    01:35

    Milton Delugg on mentors in his career including Frank Loesser

    01:07

    Jan Murray with Emerson College

    Milton Delugg on working on Treasure Hunt, and on the show's personnel making deals with potential contestants

    02:27

    Herb Shriner

    Milton Delugg on working with Herb Shriner on Two for the Money

    01:54

    Sylvester L. "Pat" Weaver

    Milton Delugg on NBC exec Sylvester L. "Pat" Weaver's idea to have morning, noon, and night shows on NBC, and on becoming bandleader on the night show Broadway Open House (precursor to The Tonight Show)

    01:57

    Flip Wilson

    Milton Delugg on working on People Are Funny with Flip Wilson

    00:56

    Henny Youngman

    Milton Delugg on working on The Morey Amsterdam Show (NBC and ABC) with Henny Youngman

    04:42

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